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On October 11 2010 00:28 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2010 23:41 LSB wrote:On October 10 2010 14:05 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I took a hit last night. Vet? Or Bulletproof? Or doc? On October 10 2010 14:32 Divinek wrote:On October 10 2010 14:18 SiNiquity wrote:Annnd now no one's been poisoned. :o On October 10 2010 14:05 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I took a hit last night. err what? it's possible that mafia could poison someone and just have one of their members claim they took a hit you know. Not saying i think that's the case atm, i've generally seen opz in a pretty good light this game, but don't jump to conclusions so easily! We'll find that out by tomorrow. Anyways its a dumb idea for mafia to claim to be hit. If a person is poisoned tomorrow, we can easily lynch OpZ Basically we know that OpZ is blue. Unless of course doc protected him, but I don't know if he gets notification im not following your rationale say today there was hit+poison and he claimed he took a hit then tomorrow they could hit+poison, and hit+poision until the day they need 3 kills to win and then do hit+hit+poisonkill so no it wouldn't be dumb. I find it interesting that you say so though.
Ah, never thought about that.
Wait a minute. There are 15 town aligned players. If we miss twice there are 13 left, mafia will off two (assumign that Opz isn't lying), and then we are in Lylo...
So tomorrow is lylo if we fail.
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On October 11 2010 04:52 kane]deth[ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2010 23:59 LSB wrote:On October 10 2010 13:24 Divinek wrote:NOOOOO PANDAIN, as much as I hate your fadoodles at least you play this game with heart! I will seek to avenge you my brother Now lets look at this motherfucker kane, I know there’s not much to look at lol On October 06 2010 06:25 kane]deth[ wrote:
Due to school, I can really only post around this time.
Just making a post to indicate my activeness, will edit or post again later with thoughts after reading the thread.
Edit: So I'm not sure what content I must post to be not lynched so I suppose I'll just give my opinion on the RNGing lynching of inactives. I think it'll be a good idea as long as we're not lynching any modkills for obvious reasons. I personally don't contribute much and might be considered inactive, but thats because of my inexperience. >: So I think that at least pressuring people to post more is a good idea. Flat out giving us his excuse that he’s not gonna contribute much and be inactive, ie ANTI town. An argument could be made for town neutrality but that would require content from him. This is not an original idea btw, he’s literally parroting about 3 other people at this point. On October 06 2010 06:45 kane]deth[ wrote:On October 06 2010 06:31 kingjames01 wrote:On October 06 2010 06:25 kane]deth[ wrote:
Due to school, I can really only post around this time.
Just making a post to indicate my activeness, will edit or post again later with thoughts after reading the thread. Just saw this and wanted to make sure you DON'T EDIT your post. Just make a new post. Welcome to the game! =) And I've just made a huge mistake >: Guilty conscience? I imagine his mafia buddies yelled at him for that one On October 07 2010 10:26 kane]deth[ wrote:
I have no idea what to do once again. The more I try to find suspicious people, the more I think everyone is suspicious. I suppose I'll just keep reading and see if anyone really jumps out at me ._. Time and time I have seen new mafia players try this card out. They are confused, they don’t know what to do, this prevents them from having to put forward any of their own ideas because they know they are quite likely to slip up in ways they haven’t even thought of yet. Newbie town players are quite often FEARLESS, they know they got nothing to hide and they get into this game because they are EXCITED to get those mafia! NOT SCARED, why would you be scared if you were town? Then he apologizes for not voting blah blah more guilty conscience fuel On October 08 2010 09:57 kane]deth[ wrote:
So I am currently voting for Misder as the proof that others have posted on him seems more reasonable than the accusations against any other player currently.
The plan on getting rid of BM seems reasonable as well, but most of the analysis today has been wasted on what to do with him instead of finding Reds.
Xelin seemed quick to bandwagon with BM but besides that he doesn't seem to be very suspicious. He could've just been slow on realizing how ridiculous BM's plans and not just bandwagoning for a kill. See that bolded word there? Yeah that’s right, OTHERs so if it goes bad (which it did) then he can go WELL I DIDN’T WANNA DO IT, but you guys presented such good arguments I agreed! Not my fault! It’s deflection at the most basic level Get rid of bm blah everyone already said that. Jumping on xelin too, everyone else did that. I mean this stuff would be fine to do of his own accord, but he’s just repeating everything that’s already been said. This is KEY because he can’t be caught for spewing bullshit because none of it is his own On October 08 2010 09:59 kane]deth[ wrote:
Also note that I have no idea how these players have played in previous games, so I can't make references like that, or if something is strange or off about someone's playstyle. More I don’t know bullshit, as in don’t expect me to do things, to be useful. Blah blah im sick of your excuses. On October 08 2010 10:21 kane]deth[ wrote:
I suppose proof was a bad word to use there.
The accusations that he made against the 'higher tier' players baselessly and his general aggression. Basically the post that Ghrur made. Currently he's just making trouble by trying to lynch players at seemingly random.
I'm also lost on one thing; is the only way to find a players posts is to find a post of the player and then click profile? I love seeing this tactic. He apologizes, then puts up some shit justification and THEN he adds a question to the end of his post, as questions always take up everything you’re thinking about because you immediately try to answer that question and almost seemingly forget what you just read lol, quality double fake of the old flame fanning. On October 09 2010 12:07 kane]deth[ wrote:
I had voted for Double Lynch already, as we would be able to lynch BM. Yuh yuh guys I agree with you don’t get angry with me im doing wut u asked. DIE Also as a little tidbit rol almost replaced this dude, look at rols only post in that entire time On October 06 2010 16:00 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
HAI GUYS
SO U NO IM IN THIS GAME NOW SO I WILL POST LATER AFTER I READ. Excuse for inactivity followed up by NOTHING. Sorry kane you’re not going to continue coasting by unnoticed. There’s nothing but wifom trying to draw away from if it was because of you on his list that pandain was killed or not, but one thing I do know, you’ve been doing fuck all for us and I have a pretty good idea why. You’re getting my vote, I will avenge you pandain! Firstly, my problems with your analysis I wouldn't really call kane]deth[ that experienced (wasn't the only other game he played he got modkilled?) Therefore we have to accept his excuses of being noobish as reality. And don't blame him for all his questions, my first two games I had lots of those in my posts And as you know, one of the posts was RoL, I'm not going to judge kane]deth[ off of RoL Next, I'm going to do some analysis of my own At the same time though, newcomers have giant "I'm Townie" lables on their posts, because of how they play. "I'm Townie" traits- - Does a lot, like over the weekends, they unleash huge torrents of spam/planning/accusations
- Relys on own analysis. Has sort of the "I don't trust anyone" appeal.
- (A continuation) They vote with good reasons, or abstain
kane]deth[ has been horrendously bad at doing any of this. His posts are all pretty cautious, he freerides off of other people's thoughts He actually initially voted for Misder, pushing the bandwagon On October 09 2010 12:19 kane]deth[ wrote:
##Vote Misder And then afterwards he switches to Xelin, even though he's pretty convinced on misder. This screams wishy-washy to me Kane]deth[ please roleclaimProblems with my analysis: It could just be bad play / he doesn't really care. I must say, you're entire analysis is bullshit; you're assuming that new players instantly take risks and because in the first few posts I have in mafia aren't decisive and inspired, that I am anti-town. I must say that there is truth though, I haven't contributed anything yet, but I promise I will by monday night. Of course you could say I'm delaying because I'm mafia but it IS thanksgiving over here and all. @LSB I'm role-claiming town, but even if I was mafia I would say that :V About my voting, I changed it because I was thinking XeliN in my mind but I typed Misder for some reason. Misder did seem to be angry and such but I thought that was just a good tactic to get others feeling pressured. Xelin seemed to be weak and uninspired, sort of like how you're accusing me to be. If I did have a choice to abstain, I would, but then I'd get modkilled, so I thought that instead of voting off a player I could simply double-lynch and collect my thoughts, but I didn't know that you still had a lynch.
There is a big difference between "differing Play styles" and "genuine intent to help". I'm saying that new players if they are town actually try to post analysis, and actually try to help out.
On the other hand, from you all I see are bandwagons.
Interesting analysis on Xelin, he's still alive. Would you like to accuse him now? And why didn't you post your reasoning yesterday?
If you wanted to abstain that badly, why didn't you just vote for yourself, or someone else that doesn't have their head on the chopping block?
On October 11 2010 07:27 Bill Murray wrote:
What's the case on kane]deth[?
Why are you voting him DoctorH?
If I've missed something that has happened, sorry, I haven't gotten a chance to read some of it yet
DoctorH explains it quite well
On October 11 2010 06:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 04:52 kane]deth[ wrote:On October 10 2010 23:59 LSB wrote:On October 10 2010 13:24 Divinek wrote:NOOOOO PANDAIN, as much as I hate your fadoodles at least you play this game with heart! I will seek to avenge you my brother Now lets look at this motherfucker kane, I know there’s not much to look at lol On October 06 2010 06:25 kane]deth[ wrote:
Due to school, I can really only post around this time.
Just making a post to indicate my activeness, will edit or post again later with thoughts after reading the thread.
Edit: So I'm not sure what content I must post to be not lynched so I suppose I'll just give my opinion on the RNGing lynching of inactives. I think it'll be a good idea as long as we're not lynching any modkills for obvious reasons. I personally don't contribute much and might be considered inactive, but thats because of my inexperience. >: So I think that at least pressuring people to post more is a good idea. Flat out giving us his excuse that he’s not gonna contribute much and be inactive, ie ANTI town. An argument could be made for town neutrality but that would require content from him. This is not an original idea btw, he’s literally parroting about 3 other people at this point. On October 06 2010 06:45 kane]deth[ wrote:On October 06 2010 06:31 kingjames01 wrote:On October 06 2010 06:25 kane]deth[ wrote:
Due to school, I can really only post around this time.
Just making a post to indicate my activeness, will edit or post again later with thoughts after reading the thread. Just saw this and wanted to make sure you DON'T EDIT your post. Just make a new post. Welcome to the game! =) And I've just made a huge mistake >: Guilty conscience? I imagine his mafia buddies yelled at him for that one On October 07 2010 10:26 kane]deth[ wrote:
I have no idea what to do once again. The more I try to find suspicious people, the more I think everyone is suspicious. I suppose I'll just keep reading and see if anyone really jumps out at me ._. Time and time I have seen new mafia players try this card out. They are confused, they don’t know what to do, this prevents them from having to put forward any of their own ideas because they know they are quite likely to slip up in ways they haven’t even thought of yet. Newbie town players are quite often FEARLESS, they know they got nothing to hide and they get into this game because they are EXCITED to get those mafia! NOT SCARED, why would you be scared if you were town? Then he apologizes for not voting blah blah more guilty conscience fuel On October 08 2010 09:57 kane]deth[ wrote:
So I am currently voting for Misder as the proof that others have posted on him seems more reasonable than the accusations against any other player currently.
The plan on getting rid of BM seems reasonable as well, but most of the analysis today has been wasted on what to do with him instead of finding Reds.
Xelin seemed quick to bandwagon with BM but besides that he doesn't seem to be very suspicious. He could've just been slow on realizing how ridiculous BM's plans and not just bandwagoning for a kill. See that bolded word there? Yeah that’s right, OTHERs so if it goes bad (which it did) then he can go WELL I DIDN’T WANNA DO IT, but you guys presented such good arguments I agreed! Not my fault! It’s deflection at the most basic level Get rid of bm blah everyone already said that. Jumping on xelin too, everyone else did that. I mean this stuff would be fine to do of his own accord, but he’s just repeating everything that’s already been said. This is KEY because he can’t be caught for spewing bullshit because none of it is his own On October 08 2010 09:59 kane]deth[ wrote:
Also note that I have no idea how these players have played in previous games, so I can't make references like that, or if something is strange or off about someone's playstyle. More I don’t know bullshit, as in don’t expect me to do things, to be useful. Blah blah im sick of your excuses. On October 08 2010 10:21 kane]deth[ wrote:
I suppose proof was a bad word to use there.
The accusations that he made against the 'higher tier' players baselessly and his general aggression. Basically the post that Ghrur made. Currently he's just making trouble by trying to lynch players at seemingly random.
I'm also lost on one thing; is the only way to find a players posts is to find a post of the player and then click profile? I love seeing this tactic. He apologizes, then puts up some shit justification and THEN he adds a question to the end of his post, as questions always take up everything you’re thinking about because you immediately try to answer that question and almost seemingly forget what you just read lol, quality double fake of the old flame fanning. On October 09 2010 12:07 kane]deth[ wrote:
I had voted for Double Lynch already, as we would be able to lynch BM. Yuh yuh guys I agree with you don’t get angry with me im doing wut u asked. DIE Also as a little tidbit rol almost replaced this dude, look at rols only post in that entire time On October 06 2010 16:00 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
HAI GUYS
SO U NO IM IN THIS GAME NOW SO I WILL POST LATER AFTER I READ. Excuse for inactivity followed up by NOTHING. Sorry kane you’re not going to continue coasting by unnoticed. There’s nothing but wifom trying to draw away from if it was because of you on his list that pandain was killed or not, but one thing I do know, you’ve been doing fuck all for us and I have a pretty good idea why. You’re getting my vote, I will avenge you pandain! Firstly, my problems with your analysis I wouldn't really call kane]deth[ that experienced (wasn't the only other game he played he got modkilled?) Therefore we have to accept his excuses of being noobish as reality. And don't blame him for all his questions, my first two games I had lots of those in my posts And as you know, one of the posts was RoL, I'm not going to judge kane]deth[ off of RoL Next, I'm going to do some analysis of my own At the same time though, newcomers have giant "I'm Townie" lables on their posts, because of how they play. "I'm Townie" traits- - Does a lot, like over the weekends, they unleash huge torrents of spam/planning/accusations
- Relys on own analysis. Has sort of the "I don't trust anyone" appeal.
- (A continuation) They vote with good reasons, or abstain
kane]deth[ has been horrendously bad at doing any of this. His posts are all pretty cautious, he freerides off of other people's thoughts He actually initially voted for Misder, pushing the bandwagon On October 09 2010 12:19 kane]deth[ wrote:
##Vote Misder And then afterwards he switches to Xelin, even though he's pretty convinced on misder. This screams wishy-washy to me Kane]deth[ please roleclaimProblems with my analysis: It could just be bad play / he doesn't really care. I must say, you're entire analysis is bullshit; you're assuming that new players instantly take risks and because in the first few posts I have in mafia aren't decisive and inspired, that I am anti-town. I must say that there is truth though, I haven't contributed anything yet, but I promise I will by monday night. Of course you could say I'm delaying because I'm mafia but it IS thanksgiving over here and all. @LSB I'm role-claiming town, but even if I was mafia I would say that :V About my voting, I changed it because I was thinking XeliN in my mind but I typed Misder for some reason. Misder did seem to be angry and such but I thought that was just a good tactic to get others feeling pressured. Xelin seemed to be weak and uninspired, sort of like how you're accusing me to be. If I did have a choice to abstain, I would, but then I'd get modkilled, so I thought that instead of voting off a player I could simply double-lynch and collect my thoughts, but I didn't know that you still had a lynch. it would be nice if you contributed something to this game besides a lame defense to all the pressure being put on you so now you're out until tomorrow night? when the day is over? lol kk
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Bloodycobber, can you make a statement on what you feel about kane]deth[?
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Im intrested in how SR will respond. Because kingjames basically got me convinced right now
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SR's response to
- Indicates that he opposes lynching inactives because the "town will bandwagon"
- Justifies Misder's choice to lynch inactives
Removes that suspicion I had on my mind, which was the main thing I was worrying about. Kingjames's accusation did seem a bit too good to be true
Okay, as for my vote. I'm going to splice my vote so it's most likely going to hit a mafia. Notice that if we just kill one mafia, their KP goes down by one.
Firstly, I'm going to stick to attacking Bill Murray. Bill Murray's plan was a horrendous flop. Literally all it does is shows the mafia who is blue. (Ie the people not speaking up). I can't believe I wasn't on at that time, but it's an immediate FOS for me.
Also take a look at Amber_Light.
Firstly, what's up with voting for Xelin and Opz? Amber_Light is indicating that he wants to abstain, but Xelin right now is under a big bandwagon, and I don't like this "abstain" vote that might off someone.
Secondly,
Opz wrote
Should Xelin not be sticking his head out? His analysis and his opinions have generally been good. So why isn't he helping us right now? Notice you attack xelin and then defend him. Same with BM. I don't get it. What do you want us to do? You're giving no direction. You are keeping us in a circle, and I don't like it. You need to go.
One problem. Maybe Amber_Light is medic and that's why he is accusing OpZ. I'm more inclined to believe Opz than Amber_Light, simply because the risks that Opz has to take in order to fake claim.
Lastly, check this out
Bill Murray attacks Amber
On October 12 2010 04:41 Bill Murray wrote:
pretty good case on amber, opz
considering voting him, possibly even instead of BC. BC has been seeming town moreso to me lately
Amber wants Bill dead
On October 08 2010 08:30 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 07:21 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 07:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 07:08 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 07:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:57 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:50 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:45 LSB wrote:
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We wouldn't be placing the game in the hands of the mafia. The mafia would want to kill BM at night as much as we do.
The point is, the only reason why the mafia wouldn't kill BM is if BM is mafia. or because town isn't going to lynch a village idiot and they don't need to kill him in the first place I find it quiet hard to believe that there are two VI's in this game. So what would we do about BM? We can't just ignore him Vig hit, we've already went over this Small concern: What if it turns out BM is vet? We lose Vigi powers. Big concern: Having the Vig kill BM doesn't help out the town at all It's better to have the Mafia do the dirty work for us than for us to have to do it ourselves. Essentially we are reducing mafia KP for a night. More people are alive. Yay! We don't decide what the mafia does. What you don't understand is that the only way this puts mafia in a corner is IF bill murray is mafia if bill murray isn't mafia they are sitting back and laughing at the pressure while we are essentially saying "if you don't kill this town player we will". if we have reason to believe he is the village idiot than lynching him is stupid Bill Murray is going to be dead no matter what if he is mafia. Doesn't change the situation for the Mafia at all O.O If Bill Murray is mafia, mafia is probably cutting losses right now and bandwagoning him. On the other hand, if Bill Murray isn't mafia, they will kill him. They have to decide between losing the game and using a KP. Obviously they are going to use a KP. If they sit back and laugh they will lose. so lets clarify you are saying if mafia doesn't kill bill murray we will lynch him and because he is the VI mafia will lose? if bill murray isn't mafia and the mafia doesn't kill him what does the mafia stand to lose that we don't? in that scenario both the mafia and the town are under equal pressure and the mafia have the upper hand because they know bill isn't red and we don't We both agree that if Bill Murray is mafia, there is no difference in the plan. The point of disagreement is what the mafia would do. Okay, I have no idea how you're approaching the problem. But I think we aren't on the same page. I'll just explain it again. Think of incentives from the Mafia's point of view. Assume we are following through with our plan. It's Night 2. Mafia knows that Bill Murray isn't one of them. They either have two options 1) Kill Bill Murray, if Bill Murray is a townie, its business as usually. If Bill Murray is VI they adverted disaster 2) Don't Kill Bill Murray, if Bill Murray is townie, nothing really happens as the town will just double lynch. If Bill Murrary is VI, the town would lynch Bill Murrary, thinking that Bill Murrary is red. Mafia will find that option 1 is preferable. Option 2 they have a chance of loosing. Option 1 they kill someone that doesn't reveal to the town much information about the mafia. As for the Town. It's Day 3. From our incentive analysis, we realize that if Bill Murrary was green/VI, mafia would have killed him. So if Bill Murrary is green, we wake up with his death post. If Bill Murrary was red, Mafia wouldn't have killed him. So we know that he is red. So we lynch him and we take out a mafia. What this plan does is exploit the fact that the mafia knows whether or not Bill Murray is redMafia basically knows Bill Murray's role. We don't. So we force the mafia to reveal this information. I agree with this 100%. This will give us a better answer then having a vigilante kill him. Mafia will want to make sure that he's taken out if they even think he's the village idiot. It doesn't guarantee that there's a possibility of ignoring the thread and going for someone else, but it would seem highly likely for them to halt losing altogether. (would be so embarrassing for town and mafia to have 2 VI's lynched) Killing BM today should be out of the question, and though I don't really want Xelin to be lynched he hasn't contributed and doesn't even want to explain or defend his position. Hopefully at the least he will flip a townie, mafia if we're really lucky, but I doubt it.
Note that there are 5 mafia in the game, that means at least one of the bandwagons is probably mafia sponsored.
Well, since they are attacking each other, I'm pretty sure that only one of the bandwagons is mafia sponsored. And so I'll split my vote to push for the town bandwagon.
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Okay, I'm begining to worry about the SR bandwagon. SR actually defended him self. I'm not supporting him or anything, but I'm worry about things like this
On October 12 2010 09:01 Hyperbola wrote:
##vote Southrawrea
##vote Bloodyc0bbler
People poping in, voting SR without a post, I'm just getting worried.
I'll switch my vote away from BM because obviously it won't do anything important, and place it back on kane]deth[
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On October 12 2010 09:13 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 09:10 LSB wrote:Okay, I'm begining to worry about the SR bandwagon. SR actually defended him self. I'm not supporting him or anything, but I'm worry about things like this On October 12 2010 09:01 Hyperbola wrote:
##vote Southrawrea
##vote Bloodyc0bbler People poping in, voting SR without a post, I'm just getting worried. I'll switch my vote away from BM because obviously it won't do anything important, and place it back on kane]deth[ ok WTF Show nested quote +On September 08 2010 13:30 BrownBear wrote:
Signup list:
1. JeeJeeLSB
2. bumatlarge Killed Night 1, Town
3. Bill Murray
4. Pandain
5. SouthRawrea
6. Amber[LighT]
7. Infundibulum Killed Night 1, Town
8. Divinek
9. Misder Day 2 Lynch, Townie
10.SINiquity
11.XeliN
12.kane]deth[
13.~OpZ~
14.DoctorHelvetica
15.infinitestory
16.cSc Modkilled Day 2, Veteran
17.Happy.fairytail BloodyC0bbler
18.NukeTheBunnys
19.Crisis_
20.drag_
21.CynanMachae
22.meeple
23.kingjames01
24.ghrur
25.Protactinium Lynched Day 1, Village Idiot
since WHEN do we have a player named Hyperbola in this game
LMAO. I didn't notice that
Hahahahahahahahaha
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In addition he hasn't even posted in Haunted mafia yet.
I'd like to encourage everyone to vote for one of the "big bandwagons"
XeliN
Amber[Light]
Southrarea
kane]deth[
Your vote on a small dude isn't going to do anything. Mafia would love to just stick aside and not be noticed.
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Amberlight has this weird idea that I'm actually good. It makes me think he's not mafia, or he'd already off me. (Then again... I did break Callers game)
I'll switch off of him cause my whole, "Bill Murray and Amberlight" combination didn't really work out as I took my vote off of Bill Murray.
I kindof don't like how a) Xelin's role got swept under the rug. And b) Xelin was like "Hey! Lets talk about PMs!" after BB was like "FUUUUUU"
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Dear Sana Vigi,
I've been a good boy.
Please Kill Bill Murray tonight.
Thank you 
-LSB
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I iz dead
Now I'll ruin the game for you. This kid, LSB, he's mafia
User was p0wnzred by BB for this post
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On October 15 2010 15:06 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2010 15:05 Divinek wrote:On October 15 2010 14:58 infinitestory wrote:
ok wtf so the detectives pretty much all knew each other
DrH and kingjames did really impressive pro-town games, I'm amazed (I also had a feeling Godfather would pose as a DT)
BC we knew, but he defended himself more than some of the townies >___>
and based on the modkills and lynch, I was prepared to guess Divinek and ghrur as mafia o_O
I think the crux of this game boiled down to having so many new players / inactives that finding suspects who didn't defend themselves or couldn't do it properly was more than easy, it was guaranteed. doesnt matter what you guess if you cant get them lynched lol! it boiled down to town being too lazy and passive here's for finding a red then not claiming and getting him killed! *dances a happy jig* I somehow survived multiple lynch days, a vig hit, and a dt check. Lady luck of mafia just shined down on me.
Yeah, that was dumb. Who in the world Roleblocks AND kills the same person :S
That saved your life 
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