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Guys, I really think town's got this all but secured. Seriously, I mean, let's look at what mafia will most likely do.
If SR is mafia(and vp) than he's going to kill the CV. They could kill a confirmed, but they know they are on the run since we can just sort out the role possiblilities at two a time.
JeeJee, I doubt your joat but if you are claim so then I'm not going to martyr you. Cause then you can just protect yourself. I truly think your alignment cop however.
But heres the funsies: I'm going to martyr JeeJee while the mafia are going to have to either shoot or roleblock the CV. They could roleblock me and shoot JeeJee, but even then that means that the tracker is going to find them. And even if Citizen is mafia Fishball's checking JeeJee.
So they can't roleblock me or rasta without being found out. And they won't be able to kill JeeJee either. Now with JeeJee we are either going to find a scum or alignment cop. So even at the off chance they shoot the CV(or even fishball if he's innocent), then we have an alignment cop who by then will know his innocence.
If there is no roleblocker than we let rastaban modkill himself. How can we tell who the roleblocker will or will not be? Easy: Here are the possible choices
Likely:
1.Brown bear
We are tracking Brownbear, will find if he's roleblocker.
2.Darth
We are going to CV him, so that'll settle that.
Unlikely:
Fishball: We are going to have him check JeeJee(thus solving important mystery) and have watcher watch JeeJee.
Citizen: As he explained quite well it wouldn't make sense anyway, but if none of the others are mafia/roleblocker than we lynch Chaoser. If Chaoser is innocent, Citizen is innocent as well as 4 others. If not, Citizen is guilty. It will be better to lynch chaoser anyway as the chances are still (slightly...barely...) possible that he's mafia bad santa, in addition bad santa will be useless now and citizen can still be useful.
Add to this we have a large supply of nearly confirmed townies(especially sinquity and opz). Also bumatlarge and (hopefully by now) me. I think town's got this.
Not 100% of course, but barring the extreme happening we got this.
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Mafia guesses as of now:
+ Show Spoiler +South: Godfather
JeeJee: Mafia doctor or Townie Alignment cop
Darth: Roleblocker
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Lol @ Fishball being "unlikely" red. I'll make a serious post on him sometime, but everything about him screams red this game. Have even you noticed who was supposed to take Bullet Bill according to "the plan"? Have you ever played with Fishball before? Go read Ver's analysis of mafia XXX then tell me if this is "town aligned Fishball" or not. You know, the guy who is assertive, smart and goes after suspects, or the one hanging back being defensive.
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On September 01 2010 07:25 citi.zen wrote:
Lol @ Fishball being "unlikely" red. I'll make a serious post on him sometime, but everything about him screams red this game. Have even you noticed who was supposed to take Bullet Bill according to "the plan"? Have you ever played with Fishball before? Go read Ver's analysis of mafia XXX then tell me if this is "town aligned Fishball" or not. You know, the guy who is assertive, smart and goes after suspects, or the one hanging back being defensive.
I meant unlikely roleblocker lol.
Dw, I'm suscipsious of Fishball but as of now we don't have to/neccesarily want to lynch him.
Also, I changed my mind JeeJee. If you're Joat, claim AFTER South has the chance to use Vengeful Player.
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On September 01 2010 05:48 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 04:28 Pandain wrote:
Just a couple things I need to know, and then I think I can announce a plan to ensure town victory(or at least 99% me thinks, maybe 100.)
Just a couple things I need to know from Ace
2.Is it possible for roles not to use their night power and not get modkilled or something. Yes, all except Compulsive Vigilante. Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 04:29 Pandain wrote:
EBWOP: Oh wow I forgot number 3
If a scum (role cop, lets say) didn't use his power, and was tracked, would it lead to the dead person? No. Rolecop Scum would still have RoleCop as precedent so it would literally be "Rolecop hasn't visited anyone".
As an aside, I designed and tweaked some of the roles so that it wasn't easy to figure out which roles were really good in all instances ^_^
whoa did someone miss this last part
does this mean a tracker is also essentially a rolecop?
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that can't be.. i assume you wrote something wrong
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JeeJee, who did you check last night. I know you did, just tell me who.
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also, i'm not the roleblocker. this is easily confirmed by either darth or whoever i visited last night. (rb'd targets get a pm that they were rb'd)
since nobody ever spoke up about being rb'd, i don't think there is an rb in this game
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On September 01 2010 07:55 JeeJee wrote:
also, i'm not the roleblocker. this is easily confirmed by either darth or whoever i visited last night. (rb'd targets get a pm that they were rb'd)
since nobody ever spoke up about being rb'd, i don't think there is an rb in this game
Rastaban did. And I know you aren't roleblocker. You aren't day vigi, so you have to have the ability to visit someone more than once. Once again, who did you visit?
Just say who, or I may just change my mind on the plan tonight.
You don't have to claim, just who did you visit.
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link to rasta's post? wanna re-read that part of the thread since clearly i didn't read it closely enough
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##Vote SouthRawrea
Glad to see we are finally fulfilling Hesmyrr's dying wish, by lynching him.
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On August 31 2010 22:31 rastaban wrote:OK, I sent the hit in for LSB as I had mentioned earlier. Sorry for not hitting SR, I checked just before the lynch yesterday and LSB was still leading. I hed checked earlier in the day and it looked like town still wanted LSB then. I got a PM stating that I was roleblocked so my hit didn't go through.  Due to a death in the family (not mine) some training that I am required to take was moved to this week and will be taking place at 6:from about 9-6PM (CST) for today and the next 2 days. I won't have access during that time. I will be checking when I get off work, just I won't be able to follow the thread throughout the day.
In the words of Tassador: " Speak quickly executor. I grow tired of waiting."
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Glad to see you back Rastaban. You going to be on so you can follow the plan this time 
Sorry about the death btw .
So JeeJee you going to vote SR? Sorry I'm getting so spammy here I just want the game to end quicky lol.
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On September 01 2010 08:12 Pandain wrote:Glad to see you back Rastaban. You going to be on so you can follow the plan this time Sorry about the death btw . So JeeJee you going to vote SR? Sorry I'm getting so spammy here I just want the game to end quicky lol.
Yes, is there a question I should be answering? I just read back through but didn't notice anything in particular pointed at me.
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On September 01 2010 07:52 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 05:48 Ace wrote:On September 01 2010 04:28 Pandain wrote:
Just a couple things I need to know, and then I think I can announce a plan to ensure town victory(or at least 99% me thinks, maybe 100.)
Just a couple things I need to know from Ace
2.Is it possible for roles not to use their night power and not get modkilled or something. Yes, all except Compulsive Vigilante. On September 01 2010 04:29 Pandain wrote:
EBWOP: Oh wow I forgot number 3
If a scum (role cop, lets say) didn't use his power, and was tracked, would it lead to the dead person? No. Rolecop Scum would still have RoleCop as precedent so it would literally be "Rolecop hasn't visited anyone".
As an aside, I designed and tweaked some of the roles so that it wasn't easy to figure out which roles were really good in all instances ^_^
whoa did someone miss this last part does this mean a tracker is also essentially a rolecop?
Role Cop gets results: Role or Vanilla.
Tracker gets: player visited X or player didn't move.
Both rely on precedents: If The player failed to get a role then the Tracker is always better at finding Scum. If the player does have a Role the rolecop is better because the Tracker can't ever find out what's going on with a player that never moves at night.
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we're at L-2 i believe
##vote: SR
now L-1.
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even though we've practically assured our lynch, im gonna write ya'll a small novel today
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woah i just was starting up and saw this
"#2 Chaoser --- Likely Bad Santa, list of Elfs: Radfield, Sinliquidy, Citi.zen, Opz, Bumatlarge"
does that mean he 'confirmed' those people, under the assumption that he's town aligned?
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Wait there should be a lynch @ 7, there are 14 players alive. Damn it brb
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On September 01 2010 08:42 Divinek wrote:
woah i just was starting up and saw this
"#2 Chaoser --- Likely Bad Santa, list of Elfs: Radfield, Sinliquidy, Citi.zen, Opz, Bumatlarge"
does that mean he 'confirmed' those people, under the assumption that he's town aligned?
Combine it with the knowledge that radfield and bumatlarge are innocent, then also compare it with Fishball's checks of Sinquity and Opz not having a gun, and he came forward to save opz(a townie).
Pro town all the way. The only possible mafia thing that this might be is doing it so then he can help citizen "gain" credibility. But why would he need that when Opz was already being lynched? Citizen had all the cred in the world(had just counter claimed, was real).
what Chaoser said was pro town and definitely doesn't help mafia. But yes, there is a slight chance he is mafia. That's why even that is taken care of.
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