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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 31 2010 18:19 GMT
#1281
Apparently rasta visited LSB.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 31 2010 18:25 GMT
#1282
On September 01 2010 03:19 bumatlarge wrote:
Apparently rasta visited LSB.


He couldn't have, or else I'd be dead o.o

Anyways, he was roleblocked. Im thinking mafia sent a random role to visit me since they guessed that bum would be watching me.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 31 2010 18:40 GMT
#1283
On August 31 2010 12:55 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 12:39 chaoser wrote:
yeah, i'm not traitor lol. I said you can lynch me to confirm my list but at this point SR really should be dead. The fact that the CV was blocked from hitting him looks like mafia was trying to save him via roleblocker


(this also replies your other post)
I don't really think you are traitor, however, this is actually good for the mafia as it meddles up who is wrong and who is right, causing confusion for the town

The best way to figure this out is to confirm Chaoser.
Not by lynching him, that would be bad, but lynching SR. SR flips traitor, chaoser is confirmed, and then we have a nice tight town circle of 5 people, maybe more


Okay, now that everyone has reported back, I've made my decision.

Opz has an excellent reason for claiming tracker. He was trying to bait the mafia but it didn't work. Please take your vote off of Opz. We will need to confirm Chaoser anyways, so it would be reduntent to try to vertify Opz story now

Rasta got a pm for being roleblocked. Even though he targeted me, the mafia thought he was going to target SR. By roleblocking Rasta, SR lives.

Bum saw that someone visisted me last night. Since it was not rasta, this means that mafia has a visiting role
This is because the mafia is the only logical group that would visit me. Unless of course someone could claim

So of the 3 mafia, there is at least a visiting role and a roleblocker.

Chaoser is trustworthy. Confirming him would be very very good.
Of course, we shouldn't just kill him, but once we find the traitor, Chaoser is in the clear.

Where's the traitor then? Well, lets go back to day one. Somehow Southrawrea slipped under our radar, and I don't want to see it again.

More importantly, notice how SR's contributions dramtically decline after the first day, at the same time, he was not under heavy suspicion.

##VOTE: Southrawrea
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 31 2010 19:04 GMT
#1284
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 31 2010 23:34 citi.zen wrote:
Just to recap all the stuff what we know/was claimed thus far:

#1 rastaban--- Comp Vig (role confirmed by Hesmyrr), claims he got RB-ed night 2
#2 Chaoser --- Likely Bad Santa, list of Elfs: Radfield, Sinliquidy, Citi.zen, Opz, Bumatlarge
#3 LSB --- Prince of Darkness, was watched + visited by one other person night 2
#4 Hesmyrr --- Picked CV, got Vanilla
#5 Zeks --- Role Cop, SK
#6 Southrawrea --- Claims he picked Traitor but got vanilla
#7 Subversion --- probably Picked Role Cop but did not get it
#8 Fishball --- claimed Bullet Bill, checked Opz night one and Sinliquidy night 2
#9 Opz --- Claimed Meth Man after claiming Tracker, ELF, no gun according to Fishball
#10 Citizen --- Tracker, ELF, JeeJee to DTA night one, saw Chaoser stand still night 2
#11 BrownBear
#12 JeeJee - Can travel, visited DTA night 1
#13 DarthThienAn
#14 siNiquity --- ELF, no gun according to Fishball
#15 Divinek --- Day Vig, killed BM day 1
#16 Radfield --- DEAD VANILLA ELF
#17 Bill Murray --- Mason
#18 Bumatlarge --- Watcher, ELF, saw 4 people visit Zeks night 1and one visit LSB night 2
#19 Pandain --- Claimed Martyr, we know he isn't pardoner


For completeness I will attached the "plan" list as well, since this might be what the mafia reasonably expected people to go by:

#1 Comp Vig
#2 Bad Santa
#3 Prince of Darkness
#4 33/33/33 CV, Bad Santa or PoD
#5 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each)
#6 50% Joat......... 50% Defensive role
#7 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role
#8 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role
#9 50% Joat.........50% Defensive role
#10 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role
#11 25% Role Cop, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#12 25% Joat, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#13 25% Bullet Bill, 25% Defensive role, 25% Doctor, 25% role of your choice(not tracker)
#14. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other(Alignment Cop, Mason, Martyr, etc.)
#15. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other
#16. 50% Tracker, 25% doctor, 25% Copy Cat(recommended) or Other
#17 50% role cop, 50% other
#18 50% Joat, 50% other
#19 50% Bullet Bill, 50% other
#20 50% tracker, 50% other



Little more helpful.
Also, If I can figure out who a person is, but it would be a good role, should I tell everyone so they can protect him/her.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 31 2010 19:28 GMT
#1285
Just a couple things I need to know, and then I think I can announce a plan to ensure town victory(or at least 99% me thinks, maybe 100.)

Just a couple things I need to know from Ace
1.Does rastaban still count as visiting if he gets roleblocked.
2.Is it possible for roles not to use their night power and not get modkilled or something.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 31 2010 19:29 GMT
#1286
EBWOP: Oh wow I forgot number 3

If a scum (role cop, lets say) didn't use his power, and was tracked, would it lead to the dead person?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 31 2010 19:36 GMT
#1287
I was actually kinda thinking that there's nothing for me to do really haha. I'm not gonna try and start up a lynch on any of the top 3 as I really have run out of ideas. It also might be in town's best interest to lynch me to confirm that I've been telling the truth after 2 failed lynches (1 with a good result though haha). I'm really just waiting to see what happens.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
August 31 2010 19:54 GMT
#1288
##VOTE: Southrawrea

I've been pushing this for a while now...

If he's not traitor, then top 3 are in trouble. Though i really can't see how mafia can coordinate to have someone in the top three pick traitor and then they can grab the role that wasn't pick (CV, Santa, PoD)
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 31 2010 20:08 GMT
#1289
Alright lynch South, if he's innocent then we know who the traitor is(LSB.)
And we can just shoot him at night. Also, I want you citizen to track JeeJee tonight.

Finally, If anyone is copy cat please claim now. And I want the other person to confirm it. The other person doesn't have to claim a role, just confirm the masonship.
Cause there's three people possible to be roleblocker, and two to be traitor.
And South is on both of them.

##Unvote
##Vote Southrawrea
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 31 2010 20:11 GMT
#1290
Cause guys remember, as long as we keep the CV aiming towards our townie aims, mafia has to roleblock him to delay us winning. And then they can't roleblock people like me for instance.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
August 31 2010 20:15 GMT
#1291
Did the possibility of SR being the Vengeful Player just went right out of the window?
靈魂交響曲
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 31 2010 20:16 GMT
#1292
I'm dying.. ughhhaghhhogg..
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 31 2010 20:24 GMT
#1293
On September 01 2010 05:15 Fishball wrote:
Did the possibility of SR being the Vengeful Player just went right out of the window?


Even if SR is a VP, its a 1 for 1 trade.
In addition, it helps my super secret idea.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 31 2010 20:30 GMT
#1294
On August 26 2010 00:23 SouthRawrea wrote:
One is me :D. I'm quite obviously not going to announce the role. Basically someone picked a role that they were not supposed to pick which I had picked as well. Not a huge deal but possible mafia candidate. So 5 possible people who stole my role D:.


Also I just found this little gem. Don't know why I didn't realize. This post is just way off. First off, he's happy that he picked traitor, then he says that someone picking traitor in the top 5 isn't "a huge deal."

Finally, he says they might be mafia. A traitor would not be mafia, they would just be a treachorous townie. SR is just so... inauthentic(whats that word)
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 31 2010 20:33 GMT
#1295
On September 01 2010 05:11 Pandain wrote:
Cause guys remember, as long as we keep the CV aiming towards our townie aims, mafia has to roleblock him to delay us winning. And then they can't roleblock people like me for instance.

Only if we aim correctly. That's the annoying thing.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 31 2010 20:35 GMT
#1296
On September 01 2010 05:30 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2010 00:23 SouthRawrea wrote:
One is me :D. I'm quite obviously not going to announce the role. Basically someone picked a role that they were not supposed to pick which I had picked as well. Not a huge deal but possible mafia candidate. So 5 possible people who stole my role D:.


Also I just found this little gem. Don't know why I didn't realize. This post is just way off. First off, he's happy that he picked traitor, then he says that someone picking traitor in the top 5 isn't "a huge deal."

Finally, he says they might be mafia. A traitor would not be mafia, they would just be a treachorous townie. SR is just so... inauthentic(whats that word)


I was saying that to throw people off before I finally decided to announce the role. If I blatantly said that it wasn't a mafia candidate then people would know it was traitor or else what would be the point of announcing it? If I said that it wasn't a mafia role then one would think that I was outting a blue or outtin a traitor.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 31 2010 20:36 GMT
#1297
On September 01 2010 05:15 Fishball wrote:
Did the possibility of SR being the Vengeful Player just went right out of the window?

I love how you drop in the thread to stir the pot every now and then. You never follow it up, never point fingers, you just raise these coy little questions. Unless someone accuses you that is, then we actually get long posts.

Right out of the mafia manual, right? Give the town nothing.

Fishball and SR are my top suspects. Then there's the roleblocker, who has to be one of BrownBear, JeeJee or DTA.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 20:43:35
August 31 2010 20:40 GMT
#1298
Sorry guys I was in the city ^_^


Question:

If CV is roleblocked, do they still count as visiting the target(aka if watcher watches will CV show up)

Answer:

If CV attempts to shoot a target and RB blocks CV

Watcher sees no one visiting

Tracker gets a "your target didn't visit anyone" result

Both roles will get null results.

Explanation: This is done so that if any role that visits at night does get roleblocked then the Tracker and Watcher can't get "bad results" that would lead to an argument. Both players (the visiting role and the Watcher/Tracker) would be telling the truth and it would look like someone is lying when the mechanics just don't help either of them in this situation.


Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 31 2010 20:43 GMT
#1299
On September 01 2010 05:36 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 05:15 Fishball wrote:
Did the possibility of SR being the Vengeful Player just went right out of the window?

I love how you drop in the thread to stir the pot every now and then. You never follow it up, never point fingers, you just raise these coy little questions. Unless someone accuses you that is, then we actually get long posts.

Right out of the mafia manual, right? Give the town nothing.

Fishball and SR are my top suspects. Then there's the roleblocker, who has to be one of BrownBear, JeeJee or DTA.

Oh wow, you know that's my plan. You say as long as we aim right, but all that matters is we find the RB eventually. They will have to roleblock him in order to delay.

Anyway, Its not JeeJee. DTA would've claimed being roleblocked(since Jeejee visited him night one.)

He's either alignment cop or Joat or doctor. But if he's scum the only reason he would be alignment cop is to delay roles, as mafia already know all the alignments. In addition, he's not doctor since he claimed to have "been able to confirm that citizen is telling the truth and opz is lying".

Therefore, he's either a scum alignment cop(doubtful) or Joat, joat being the more likely.

But now I'm starting to think he may be a townie Joat/alignment cop, who thought he had been able to confirm what's the truth, but then realized either he had a sanity part, or realized he didn't have enough info.

If he's town joat, he investigated darth, as why would he protect/talk to him on first night? In addition, he definitely didn't shoot him.

But then he wouldn't have been able to "confirm" the truth.

Therefore, he's town alignment cop, or scum alignment cop/joat.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 20:50:05
August 31 2010 20:48 GMT
#1300
On September 01 2010 04:28 Pandain wrote:
Just a couple things I need to know, and then I think I can announce a plan to ensure town victory(or at least 99% me thinks, maybe 100.)

Just a couple things I need to know from Ace

2.Is it possible for roles not to use their night power and not get modkilled or something.


Yes, all except Compulsive Vigilante.


On September 01 2010 04:29 Pandain wrote:
EBWOP: Oh wow I forgot number 3

If a scum (role cop, lets say) didn't use his power, and was tracked, would it lead to the dead person?


No. Rolecop Scum would still have RoleCop as precedent so it would literally be "Rolecop hasn't visited anyone".

As an aside, I designed and tweaked some of the roles so that it wasn't easy to figure out which roles were really good in all instances ^_^

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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