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On August 31 2010 12:08 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 12:03 Ace wrote:On August 31 2010 11:29 chaoser wrote:
Ok Ace, question. Since mafia all visit a person when they kill him, does that mean they are all "responsible" for his death? If yes, does that mean if I have even on mafia on my list, I would get my power? Yes.
@citizen: Remember Tracker watches roles based on precedence. So a bullletproof Scum for instance will show up as not moving to you. That's messed up! So ANY mafia with a role is undetectable via the tracker? I thought it was just roles that "visited" people that took me to the wrong place, not that any role makes people static. I probably would not have picked tracker if I knew that :-) This means I wasted the night check, I cannot ever confirm Chaoser. Should have just called out Opz yesterday and hear Radfield's thoughts on this.
Yea, that's pretty wtf-worthy. A tracker tracks movement. This is Mafia, a game where several malignant individuals gather together and kill someone each night in close quarters. So just because the Don dons a bulletproof vest, it serves as a Home Alone style trick? "Yaa I'm home! heheh.."
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And there's nothing on the front page to allude to such a loop hole:
Tracker - Follow someone and find out who they visited that night.
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Actually if you read the FAQS there clearly is:
13.)
If the Tracker tracks a mafia roleblocker, where does he go? To the KP target, or to the roleblocked target? Likewise a SK roleblocker.
If they are Vanilla will they always be tracked to a kill.Otherwise their other role takes precedence. So in this example of a Mafia roleblocker if the person killed and roleblocked, the tracker would be tagged to the roleblocked target. However if this same Scum was stuck with their Vanilla role the tracker would see who they targeted for killing that night. Otherwise the tracker would almost be better than both cops in this setup.
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Screw this, this is too confusing.
Rasta! Kill me now! And this time don't mess it up
Okay, real post.
Assuming everyone is perfectly rational
1. Chaoser is traitor. Ace's explination for all the tracking still confuses me (what happens if a tracker tracks a vanilla mafia?). But chaoser could be unconverted traitor and lie
2. Opz is Joat, and fishball lied. Main problem, if Opz knew fishball was mafia, opz would have shot him
3. Someone knows something and is trying to draw out more information by killing someone.
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Okay, ace ninjaed me. That makes sense. Thanks!
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Or doctors went to town (hohoho), and that was a vig/CV hit...
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On August 31 2010 12:22 Ace wrote:Actually if you read the FAQS there clearly is:Show nested quote +
13.)
If the Tracker tracks a mafia roleblocker, where does he go? To the KP target, or to the roleblocked target? Likewise a SK roleblocker.
If they are Vanilla will they always be tracked to a kill.Otherwise their other role takes precedence. So in this example of a Mafia roleblocker if the person killed and roleblocked, the tracker would be tagged to the roleblocked target. However if this same Scum was stuck with their Vanilla role the tracker would see who they targeted for killing that night. Otherwise the tracker would almost be better than both cops in this setup.
I read Q 13 many times and took it to mean that any role with movement, such as the role-blocker, takes precedence, not that any role, even static ones, make the tracker useless.
At any rate. Here we are now: I still know Opz lied, but Chaoser says both me and Opz are innocent. The CV probably got role-blocked last night, but confirmation would be nice. Bum saw someone visit LSB, even though I did not visit him (would have done no good anyway according to latest clarification).
Raaaadfiled!
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yeah, i'm not traitor lol. I said you can lynch me to confirm my list but at this point SR really should be dead. The fact that the CV was blocked from hitting him looks like mafia was trying to save him via roleblocker
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On August 31 2010 11:54 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 11:35 bumatlarge wrote:
AHEM I MEAN
Bumatlarge was high as a kite that evening. Town actually appreciated his batman antics and gave him some pot, which is legal in liquidia ofc. Batman mask set, he roamed the night. HOLY SHIT A CAT. Oh look LSD's house. Bum sneaks in the back alley, tries to climb over a fence, but it swings open at the climax of his climb. Gravity being the bitch that it is, sent bum on a 3 foot skydive into a trashcan! HOLY SHIT A RACCOON. OW. Bum thanks his lucky stars he developed a rabies immunity when he got bit by that raccoon a second ago. Before Bum could question his reasoning, he runs into some dude smokin a cig at the backdoor.
"Sup homes" Bum said in his gravelly voice
"Uh hello"
"You the tracker?" Bum said in his cementy voice
"Sure.. are you high?"
"YOU BET" Bum said in a stoned voice
bum quickly started talking about his encounters with untame beasts and popular topics often discussed by the stalkers of the night, and the other guy smoked a whole pack. before bum knew it, the sun was coming out!
"Aight later did what I needed too" and then he left.
"Oh wait- oh fudgepops" Bum pebbled. Why the hell haven't you been posting like this in previous games? I look forward to the new day just for these posts now!  EDIT: These are so funny I had to copy paste them into an email, send it to Ver, and then text him to check his email because he needs to see them and he is impossible to get ahold of right now and is not checking TL. They're that awesome.
On August 31 2010 11:54 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 11:35 bumatlarge wrote:
AHEM I MEAN
Bumatlarge was high as a kite that evening. Town actually appreciated his batman antics and gave him some pot, which is legal in liquidia ofc. Batman mask set, he roamed the night. HOLY SHIT A CAT. Oh look LSD's house. Bum sneaks in the back alley, tries to climb over a fence, but it swings open at the climax of his climb. Gravity being the bitch that it is, sent bum on a 3 foot skydive into a trashcan! HOLY SHIT A RACCOON. OW. Bum thanks his lucky stars he developed a rabies immunity when he got bit by that raccoon a second ago. Before Bum could question his reasoning, he runs into some dude smokin a cig at the backdoor.
"Sup homes" Bum said in his gravelly voice
"Uh hello"
"You the tracker?" Bum said in his cementy voice
"Sure.. are you high?"
"YOU BET" Bum said in a stoned voice
bum quickly started talking about his encounters with untame beasts and popular topics often discussed by the stalkers of the night, and the other guy smoked a whole pack. before bum knew it, the sun was coming out!
"Aight later did what I needed too" and then he left.
"Oh wait- oh fudgepops" Bum pebbled. Why the hell haven't you been posting like this in previous games? I look forward to the new day just for these posts now! EDIT: These are so funny I had to copy paste them into an email, send it to Ver, and then text him to check his email because he needs to see them and he is impossible to get ahold of right now and is not checking TL. They're that awesome.
It seems I have a reputation to live up to!
On to the game...
ok... that makes me more useful then the tracker! almost
That bad santa list is messed up...... I mean it would make sense if chaoser was scum? maybe?
hrm... if rasta got viged/or cv'd, and there was doctor action... any info at all this point would be really helpful, like getting shot. Dont worry SK is dead 
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Just to tell you all, there would be only one reason I would give out the list I did and that would be to save Opz from citi.zen. That's about it. What good is it for mafia if I played the move I just did? It would have been better if I didn't say anything cause I could just make up any list I want to incriminate anyone else.
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only one reason if I was mafia*
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On August 31 2010 12:41 chaoser wrote:
Just to tell you all, there would be only one reason I would give out the list I did and that would be to save Opz from citi.zen. That's about it. What good is it for mafia if I played the move I just did? It would have been better if I didn't say anything cause I could just make up any list I want to incriminate anyone else.
It would be plenty good if you were mafia with Opz and Fishball.
It's either that, or believing Opz simply lied for the sake of it, as town.
Are there other possibilities? Other solutions than to lynch Opz or myself?
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On August 31 2010 12:51 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 12:41 chaoser wrote:
Just to tell you all, there would be only one reason I would give out the list I did and that would be to save Opz from citi.zen. That's about it. What good is it for mafia if I played the move I just did? It would have been better if I didn't say anything cause I could just make up any list I want to incriminate anyone else. It would be plenty good if you were mafia with Opz and Fishball. It's either that, or believing Opz simply lied for the sake of it, as town. Are there other possibilities? Other solutions than to lynch Opz or myself?
yeah, let me throw myself in which the rest of them. like i said worst comes to worst, ltnch me
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On August 31 2010 12:39 chaoser wrote:
yeah, i'm not traitor lol. I said you can lynch me to confirm my list but at this point SR really should be dead. The fact that the CV was blocked from hitting him looks like mafia was trying to save him via roleblocker
(this also replies your other post)
I don't really think you are traitor, however, this is actually good for the mafia as it meddles up who is wrong and who is right, causing confusion for the town
The best way to figure this out is to confirm Chaoser.
Not by lynching him, that would be bad, but lynching SR. SR flips traitor, chaoser is confirmed, and then we have a nice tight town circle of 5 people, maybe more
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On August 31 2010 12:55 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 12:39 chaoser wrote:
yeah, i'm not traitor lol. I said you can lynch me to confirm my list but at this point SR really should be dead. The fact that the CV was blocked from hitting him looks like mafia was trying to save him via roleblocker (this also replies your other post) I don't really think you are traitor, however, this is actually good for the mafia as it meddles up who is wrong and who is right, causing confusion for the town The best way to figure this out is to confirm Chaoser. Not by lynching him, that would be bad, but lynching SR. SR flips traitor, chaoser is confirmed, and then we have a nice tight town circle of 5 people, maybe more
I've been pushing for an SR lynch since forever -_-. He claimed traitor got taken, he should have been first to die to confirm that indeed traitor did get taken
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well thanks for outing me. i assumed you were tracker citizen and was trying to hint for you to play along. bad methman skills talking to mafia. well citizen is mafia. lo sniped radfield so he wouldn't have to arguw his point. i didn't lie. i followed the plan. any townie wanna claim they picked meth and didn't get it?
soft claimed, and got lucky calling fishball out. i was saying hiiii because he posted and i wanted to see if he was around to respod. i have been accusing him if you remember.
anyway, posting from my phone, will be on laterl
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Sounds good.
Lets wait for rasta/opz before we get a wagon started
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Gaaa, ninjad again 
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[*]rastaban--- Comp Vig (REQUIRE EXPLANATIONS)
[*]Chaoser --- Bad Santa (Rad, Sin, Citi, Opz, Bum)
[*]LSB --- Prince of Darkness
[D]Hesmyrr --- Vanilla
[D]Zeks --- Role Cop, Defensive role or Copy Cat(??)
[*]Southrawrea --- Traitor ------> Vanilla (NOT DEAD?)
[D]Subversion --- Picked whatever, Did not follow the plan
[*]Fishball --- A missile with a face on it
[*]Opz --- Tracker ELF (lying joat? when he said "wonder why fish visited me, did that actually imply tracker?)
[*]Citizen --- REAL TRACKER? ELF
[*]BrownBear
[*]JeeJee
[*]DarthThienAn
[*]siNiquity --- ELF
[*]Divinek --- Day Vig
[D]Radfield --- DEAD VANILLA ELF
[D]Bill Murray --- Mason
[*]Bumatlarge --- Dark Knight ELF
[*]Pandain --- Martyr
Roles
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OK lets try to solve some puzzles.
MYSTERY #1 - Traitor debacle
What we know = South claimed to try for traitor, but failed. Rasta, LSB, chaoser could have picked traitor, or south is lying.
MYSTERY #2 - ZEKS
SOLVED GOD DAMN SK THINKS HES BATMAN, LITTLE DID HE KNOW, I AM THE GOD DAMN BATMAN
MYSTERY #3 - SANTA EXISTS?!?!1/1?1!?!
What we know - Radfield is dead, he was an elf. None of the elves were naughty, claims santa. Citi and Opz claim same role?!
Alright lets try to piece these mysteries together! It could be possible rasta is red, and radfield, while mafia hit some unsuspecting pokemon, who took it like MACHAMP. Confirms alot of town, if santa is a saint. Then we would need machamp to come forward. Mafia could have the machamp, and that would be sneaky.
The other road I'd like to dissect is a little more interesting... South is scum machamp/vet, and Opz is traitor. Look at Opz acts off the bat, and follows it up really spammy and what not (I mean he keeps saying he loves me and stuff FoS for sure) South can really screw town, and buy alot of time. Explains rasta failed hit, the two non traitors up there, and all this nonsense hes doing. Opz DOESNT HAVE A GUN, has a very legit reason to claim tracker, and is on the bad santa list. It would be really clever for scum to have a pardoner at this point, and REALLY stall that south, but I dont think they would be willing to give that pardoner up until they can force a lylo, since sub died. I really like this choice, since it would explain alot of reasoning, and I havent gotten any bad vibes from the 3 amigos with the anti town roles. Well rasta needs to post, but whateva.
+ Show Spoiler +On August 31 2010 13:02 ~OpZ~ wrote:
well thanks for outing me. i assumed you were tracker citizen and was trying to hint for you to play along. bad methman skills talking to mafia. well citizen is mafia. lo sniped radfield so he wouldn't have to arguw his point. i didn't lie. i followed the plan. any townie wanna claim they picked meth and didn't get it?
soft claimed, and got lucky calling fishball out. i was saying hiiii because he posted and i wanted to see if he was around to respod. i have been accusing him if you remember.
anyway, posting from my phone, will be on laterl
STOP! It's traitor time!
##vote southrawrea
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wait. chaosers list makes citi innocent????
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