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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 05:28 GMT
#1032
do not martyr fishball. he isn't playing like he is blue at all.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 05:49 GMT
#1035
obvious....listen to me, ignore pandain
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 06:27 GMT
#1046
...Regardless Fishball, you NEVER post when your blue, except your witty satires. You're acting extremely defensive right now, and as many times as I've accused you in the past you just ignore me. Why the sudden interest in seeming pro-town?

You've even picked Bullet Bill way early. Why? We know your role, so who did you look at last night? Have you missed all those posts, in your useless no content post you've just posted, as a way to argue a point you normally wouldn't care about?

=/
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 07:01 GMT
#1052
maybe now i should say hi to you fishball.....
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 13:12 GMT
#1061
Eh, I think peeeeersonally martyr shouldn't protect Fishball. What if we want to lynch Fishball tomorrow Radfield?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 15:26 GMT
#1068
Ace, question about watcher watching a comp vig target. If the comp vig is mafia, and kills someone via vig hit, does it show as all mafia visiting the target, or just the comp vig? You said present for any action on page 44, so I'm assuming yes, but I want to be 100% sure.

Bum, you are going to watch the comp vig's target, if this is the case. It will be the most useful thing.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 15:35 GMT
#1069
On August 30 2010 00:26 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 21:26 Radfield wrote:
Importantly, we still have a traitor around. Either Chaoser, LSB, or Southrawrea. I felt pretty certain that zeks was the traitor, but obviously that was not so. My next choice would be LSB. Why?

Mainly because LSB was so sure that zeks was the SK. He stated several times that he 'proved' zeks was the Serial Killer, when in fact he had done no such thing. I thought it far more likely that zeks was the traitor, and had been targeted by the mafia. But LSB never wavered from the idea that zeks was the SK, and really never even gave much of a chance for zeks to be the traitor. Perhaps LSB was just getting caught up in his own argument, or perhaps LSB is the traitor, and did actually KNOW that zeks had to be the SK. Add in that LSB is bragging up a storm about how he 'caught' zeks, makes me think that he is doing what he can to come off pro-town and use whatever credit he gets from the zeks lynch to avoid getting killed in the traitor hunt.

Combine that with the fact that if town, LSB has a completely useless role, PoD. So we need not fear losing a blue role.

Okay, do I really need to explain again why Zeks could not be the traitor?
My logic is impeccable. Subversion drafted role cop, but turned vanilla. Therefore Zeks is role cop. No if/then/or/buts. Zeks is the role cop. Zeks therefore is serial killer.

I was absolutely sure after 1) Zeks role claimed rolecop (dumb idea) 2) Zeks started acting like he was cornered.

I have no idea what you are trying to do radfield. You want to kill me because out of SR/Chaoser/Me I'm the only one who is actually isn't lurking/bandwagoning/disrupting the town?

Lastly if I was traitor, I'd be ashamed of myself. What kind of traitor immediately draws attention to himself?

Show nested quote +
That being said, chaoser could be the traitor, or Southrawrea could be fucking with us. Honestly, neither of these two players have posted a ton of useful content, so CVing either would be OK with me. Keep in mind two things though, if town, Chaoser actually has an extremely powerful role now. Imagine his list of 5. If one dies tonight, and he doesn't get the option to kill, then the other 4 players on the list are confirmed innocents. That is amazingly powerful, and worth keeping around in my opinion(at least for now). Second, Southrawrea being mafia and trying to fuck us around makes very little sense, but as people pointed out earlier, he could be vengeful player. If we are going to kill him, we'll want to do it with the CV, or the JOAT(or Bad Santa)


My proposal for tonight:


Compvig LSB

Bullet Bill(Fishball) check Southrawrea
Tracker follow Fishball
Medic protect Fishball


This is a horrible idea. BB checking SR will not do anything.
The problem with this strategy is that you are assuming that the mafia has already converted the traitor. Infact, the mafia would NOT want to want to convert the traitor, as the traitor essentially is a godfather.
Is SR is the traitor? SR has been giving off scummy vibes and has not done much besides jump on bandwagons. If we check him, he'll show up as town, and we proceed to kill me and Choaser. More Townies dead. SR does his job beautifully
What if SR is Red? That means there is no traitor at all. We're screwed once again.

Who should the Bullet Bill check then? He should check me.
As the Prince of darkness I will not have a weapon. Confirming my role
This will answer your question of whether or not I'm mafia.
As for your accusation of traitor. That should be solved once SR filps traitor/red. If not, we are left with Chaoser

Bullet Bill (Fishball) check Me (LSB)
Tracker follow Fishball
Martyr protect Fishball
Compvig Southrawrea

Why the Martyr? Because Fishball is the most powerful dt, barring the JOAT. But the Joat can only use his power once

Problem here is...I think you were traitor, and now mafia, and Fishball is mafia...So...Combine two and two...and you get four...So Fishball will say you don't have a weapon even if you do?

How about JOAT investigates Fishballs!!!
Yaaaaaaaay.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 15:51 GMT
#1071
On August 30 2010 00:40 LSB wrote:
I'm pretty sure the JOAT investigated night one though.

If the JOAT hasn't, ~OpZ~ idea is pretty good.

I'm pretty sure he didn't.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 16:09 GMT
#1074
On August 30 2010 01:06 BrownBear wrote:
Fuck me, I missed the deadline again. I thought it was tomorow.

Looks like I'm to be modkilled, I'm really sorry guys. I was trying to wait for the last minute and overshot by... well, a lot.

Good hit this is, young padowan.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 18:08 GMT
#1084
I thought scum were the only people who support modkills @_@ WHATS GOING ON HERE.

Honestly his post seems extremely scum anyway..."sorry guys, was trying to wait for last minute?" Huh?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 18:16 GMT
#1088
On August 30 2010 00:35 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 00:26 LSB wrote:
On August 29 2010 21:26 Radfield wrote:
Importantly, we still have a traitor around. Either Chaoser, LSB, or Southrawrea. I felt pretty certain that zeks was the traitor, but obviously that was not so. My next choice would be LSB. Why?

Mainly because LSB was so sure that zeks was the SK. He stated several times that he 'proved' zeks was the Serial Killer, when in fact he had done no such thing. I thought it far more likely that zeks was the traitor, and had been targeted by the mafia. But LSB never wavered from the idea that zeks was the SK, and really never even gave much of a chance for zeks to be the traitor. Perhaps LSB was just getting caught up in his own argument, or perhaps LSB is the traitor, and did actually KNOW that zeks had to be the SK. Add in that LSB is bragging up a storm about how he 'caught' zeks, makes me think that he is doing what he can to come off pro-town and use whatever credit he gets from the zeks lynch to avoid getting killed in the traitor hunt.

Combine that with the fact that if town, LSB has a completely useless role, PoD. So we need not fear losing a blue role.

Okay, do I really need to explain again why Zeks could not be the traitor?
My logic is impeccable. Subversion drafted role cop, but turned vanilla. Therefore Zeks is role cop. No if/then/or/buts. Zeks is the role cop. Zeks therefore is serial killer.

I was absolutely sure after 1) Zeks role claimed rolecop (dumb idea) 2) Zeks started acting like he was cornered.

I have no idea what you are trying to do radfield. You want to kill me because out of SR/Chaoser/Me I'm the only one who is actually isn't lurking/bandwagoning/disrupting the town?

Lastly if I was traitor, I'd be ashamed of myself. What kind of traitor immediately draws attention to himself?

That being said, chaoser could be the traitor, or Southrawrea could be fucking with us. Honestly, neither of these two players have posted a ton of useful content, so CVing either would be OK with me. Keep in mind two things though, if town, Chaoser actually has an extremely powerful role now. Imagine his list of 5. If one dies tonight, and he doesn't get the option to kill, then the other 4 players on the list are confirmed innocents. That is amazingly powerful, and worth keeping around in my opinion(at least for now). Second, Southrawrea being mafia and trying to fuck us around makes very little sense, but as people pointed out earlier, he could be vengeful player. If we are going to kill him, we'll want to do it with the CV, or the JOAT(or Bad Santa)


My proposal for tonight:


Compvig LSB

Bullet Bill(Fishball) check Southrawrea
Tracker follow Fishball
Medic protect Fishball


This is a horrible idea. BB checking SR will not do anything.
The problem with this strategy is that you are assuming that the mafia has already converted the traitor. Infact, the mafia would NOT want to want to convert the traitor, as the traitor essentially is a godfather.
Is SR is the traitor? SR has been giving off scummy vibes and has not done much besides jump on bandwagons. If we check him, he'll show up as town, and we proceed to kill me and Choaser. More Townies dead. SR does his job beautifully
What if SR is Red? That means there is no traitor at all. We're screwed once again.

Who should the Bullet Bill check then? He should check me.
As the Prince of darkness I will not have a weapon. Confirming my role
This will answer your question of whether or not I'm mafia.
As for your accusation of traitor. That should be solved once SR filps traitor/red. If not, we are left with Chaoser

Bullet Bill (Fishball) check Me (LSB)
Tracker follow Fishball
Martyr protect Fishball
Compvig Southrawrea

Why the Martyr? Because Fishball is the most powerful dt, barring the JOAT. But the Joat can only use his power once

Problem here is...I think you were traitor, and now mafia, and Fishball is mafia...So...Combine two and two...and you get four...So Fishball will say you don't have a weapon even if you do?

How about JOAT investigates Fishballs!!!
Yaaaaaaaay.

Sry, you missed this post LSB
=D

Him being Bullet Bill and doing anything doesn't confirm you. We know his role, not his alignment. If he is mafia, and you were traitor you could have

A) been converted last night, and he could be mafia, thereby nullifies usefulness
B) Be converted by him visiting you tonight
C)*Random assortment of you living, and being PoD* PoD is kind of a boring role, so I think traitor is more likely.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 18:20 GMT
#1090
On August 30 2010 03:16 Pandain wrote:
Huh this was supposed to be one big post. I fail so much lol.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 02:45 Pandain wrote:
Fun Fact: If you guys had been wondering why I continuously asked if someone had been roleblocked, that was becasuse I am martyr and can be roleblocked.

However, no one has said so, and I'm almost certain everyone has talked since then.
That leaves 1 of 3 possibilities
1. Someone has no said they were roleblocked yet(highly doubtful)
2.There is no roleblocker
3. Roleblocker was afk and didn't get to use his role.
I think the second possibility is the most likely. However, the third is also possible. Now who would be afk during then? Brownbear comes to mind. Anyone else?

I'm starting to think I might be an unstoppable medic(that is until I die. ).


Also, there's a fourth possibility.
One of Chaoser, LSB, and even maybe, MAYBE South was roleblocked. And they're not saying because they are traitor.

Also opz (un?)intentionally claiming Joat is a concern. Why?
Well first of all, why would Joat talk to Opz first? Without any information to give or anything. The only thing I could see is tha the wanted Opz to know he was Joat, but then the Joat wouldn't even know he was safe, so that would be a bad idea.

Furthormore, the JoaT would have no need to tell Opz, as if OpZ was not Joat he would already know that the other person was Joat(or there was none at all.)

*scratches his chin*


I didn't claim JOAT

-__-

I just said I doubt he did.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 19:36 GMT
#1096
On August 30 2010 04:18 Fishball wrote:
Stop this Fishball crap when I'm not here.

The last post I made last night was 2am MST. I do need sleep too.
Like mentioned last night, I am simply waiting for more people to comment. It at least gives me an indicator that more people have thought this over.

I checked ~Opz~ last night.
He does not have a gun.


I have my reasons to check him. This guy has been bringing me up since like the very beginning of the game, when no one has like any info. Feels like he has been trying to paint me a certain color from the get-go. But after checking some older games when I wrote up the other post, seems like he does that to every so called "vet" player...

I was wondering why you visited me last night =/
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 20:42 GMT
#1103
On August 30 2010 01:06 BrownBear wrote:
Fuck me, I missed the deadline again. I thought it was tomorow.

Looks like I'm to be modkilled, I'm really sorry guys. I was trying to wait for the last minute and overshot by... well, a lot.

He did post Ace...

=/

Can you still maybe kill him. Post seemed scummy.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 29 2010 23:54 GMT
#1116
No scum hunting....

##Comp Vig LSB
btw.

Also, I'm pretty down for night.
Radfield would be a good protection tonight BTW. Again, as I've said before, he dies like fuck, Mafia is going to assume I have it, and if Radfield is mafioso, then he kicks the bucket. I'm proven innocent by Fishball also, guaranteed town according to his check last night.

Matter of fact, protection should be between radfield and fishball. I can only track who a person visits using. If they have a night role, it's almost useless, while Fishball can actually check for a gun. And I don't have a gun, and follow to night action. So BulletBill>>>Tracker in terms of importance.

LSB dies,
Radfield/Fishball/OpZ 40/40/20%

RNG it.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 30 2010 02:37 GMT
#1129
On August 30 2010 09:15 Radfield wrote:
Autopager is awesome. I had to set something on my page down key and walk away for a couple minutes, but I now have all 56 pages in a saved file on my comp, so I can check it out anytime I want. Hooray! I recommend all serious scum hunters do the same

Do we have any way to find out Fishball's alignment? Bullet Bill, nope. Role Cop, nope. Tracker, nope. Alignment Cop, maybe. JOAT! Joat, you absolutely must use your check on Fishball. You are the only one that can. Alignment Cop should also check fishball just in case.

Once we establish Fishball's alignment, he can do the rest. However, we need to be prepared for the possibility that Fishball's alignment cannot be ascertained. AC might be naive or paranoid, Joat may have already used his check, or one or both may not be in the game. In which case, we may need to lynch Fishball if he doesn't produce results.

btw, you were already town in my books opz What do you make of Fishball checking you and not a different player?

Medic check too Radfield...Weak will die, but I want you med prot'd too, so...Sorry...

Fishball shouldn't of checked me anyway...
-___-

But, hey...I didn't follow the plan, neither did he, right?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 30 2010 02:39 GMT
#1130
On August 30 2010 09:46 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 08:47 Radfield wrote:
I found this post Jeejee, so I think it's setup properly

On May 07 2010 04:33 JeeJee wrote:
btw those that are complaining about the lack of an all-button .. yeah i can see how it would be annoying. look into the autopager addon for firefox =) you can set it up for teamliquid as such:

+ Show Spoiler +

On December 08 2009 13:57 onmach wrote:
I had to tweak a few things to get it to work just right.

For url pattern, enable regexp and use this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/(forum|blogs)/view(message|blog)\.php.*


For link xpath:
(//a[text() = 'Next' and contains(@title, 'Next Page') and contains(@href, 'view')][2]


For content xpath:
//td[@valign="top"]//table[@width=600]


Sure makes following the fitness thread easier.




then you can just start at the first page, scroll down until the last page and you have your very own all button ^-^



It seems to take some micro management though, as it only loads the next page once I scroll to the bottom of the page. It doesn't just keep going all the way automatically

you can set it to load several pages, i think the default is 1 though
usually i just tap my scrollwheel and it keeps on scrolling by itself until i stop it so it loads the whole thread in like 30sec

Stop posting about that, and post something useful. Off topic, take it to PMs

I do appreciate the link though, and the rest of it. But, I think it just adds to you appearing scummy, the off topic discussion.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 30 2010 10:42 GMT
#1133
Fishball was 50% role cop eh? And he's BulletBill? Maybe because he's...I dunno...Acting fishy as fuck. Not to mention when I'm in a game with Fishball I always use whatever night action I have on him Night One (seriously, it's like I have a thing for him or something, he attracts me on night one)
And aren't you supposed to be analyzing shit?

Oh, and one more thing Citizen. Fishball checked me, and I came up NOT holding a gun. a.k.a. CONFIRMED TOWN.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 30 2010 19:46 GMT
#1151
On August 30 2010 22:46 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 19:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Fishball was 50% role cop eh? And he's BulletBill? Maybe because he's...I dunno...Acting fishy as fuck. Not to mention when I'm in a game with Fishball I always use whatever night action I have on him Night One (seriously, it's like I have a thing for him or something, he attracts me on night one)
And aren't you supposed to be analyzing shit?

Oh, and one more thing Citizen. Fishball checked me, and I came up NOT holding a gun. a.k.a. CONFIRMED TOWN.



Of course it needs to be mentioned that you could still be scum if both you AND fishball are scum. Seems highly highly unlikely though. So unlikely in fact, that it's really not worth discussing.

I FoS'd Fishball, making it even more unlikely. And have asked for repeated looks at him. Even if he is scum, I'd be good.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 30 2010 19:56 GMT
#1152
On August 31 2010 01:15 bumatlarge wrote:
Rofl at all these ego trips

Ive got nothing better planned so ill follow up on that pandian. Indeed JeeJee seems the last person we can hope to be joat, and while its an important role, it isnt our last hope. We already have a bunch of blues running around, we just need to protect them. There is a good chance that those middle people are scum/defensive roles, so I doubt we will see a hit on them. If joat is here, he should probably protect a claimed blue tonight. In fact joat should protect fishball, and a doc should protect opz, unless we plan on hitting one. I feel like I get less priority then the other 2. So if you wanna take a chance, a doc can protect me

Again, darth and divine set off bells for me. Fish opz and rad seem like bickering blues trying to get info, but grabbing the wrong roles is fishy.

No...I have detailed specific medic protections. Fishballs role is 1000000000000000000000000 times better than mine. He gets specific's whether the person can kill or not. I just follow them, and if they don't go to a dead person because they drafted a role...well...I get useless info.

And I can't even necessarily share with the town in that situation.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
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