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On August 31 2010 11:13 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 10:11 Radfield wrote:GG Town, GG Mafia Have Fun Now I can actually spend more time working and less time playing mafia  You will be missed. I was hoping to have your help after today. With both of us alive the town would be in excellent shape. Still, we're not doing too bad. New information:Opz lied. He is not the tracker, I am the tracker. A townie would have zero reason to fake claim tracker in this set-up, so Opz must be mafia. Now, since Fishball "confirmed" him to not have a gun, Fishball lied as well. Now, I realize that from a neutral person's stand-point, you have little reason to trust me. So I'm asking you to think through this carefully. Consider this: my claim comes out of nowhere. I don't think anyone had even one vote on me this game. More importantly, if I am lying you will know as soon as we lynch Opz and he flips tracker. At worst this would be a 1 to 1 trade for the town. For the past day I've played along with Opz, pretending to believe him even when he blatantly tried to fish out my role: Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 05:00 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 31 2010 01:31 citi.zen wrote:
These aren't ego trips bum, they are strategic plays. Fishball going from polite to abrasive, Radfield from neutral to apologetic... pay attention to this tone stuff, it rarely happens without a reason. Hey Citizen...I'm guessing you think Radfield should be tracked tonight? =P
Would you do that if you were tracker? I stayed quiet to make sure I'd live one more night to narrow down the whole "traitor in the top 6" saga. I was also concerned bad santa could give the mafia many KPs and wanted to check Chaoser. These are facts. Now let me give you some speculation: I strongly believe Southrawarea is also red and the mafia roleblocked the CV hit tonight after I insisted we use the CV on South instead of LSB. We'll have time to sort this out after we kill Opz though. My night actions thus far went to: Night one: JeeJee, saw him visit DarthThienAn. Once JeeJee confirms this action, you have more reason to think I am telling the truth. The alternative is that JeeJee and I are both red, which you would know as soon as Opz flipped tracker. In the unlikely possibility JeeJee will not confirm my story, JeeJee is red. In that case I would not care whether you lynch me or Opz, either action would give you 3 mafia and we'd be sitting pretty. Night two: I tracked Chaoser. He stayed put, so Chaoser is confirmed town. I tracked him because I feared the mafia might have more KP through the bad santa, and because bad santa is a non-traveling role. Plan: Lynch Opz today and win this thing.
If everyone decides to follow your lynch, I will cast my vote for Opz as well.
But I want everyone, including you, to remember one thing.
I said he has no gun, and that is a true as it gets.
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On August 31 2010 11:28 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 11:27 Fishball wrote:On August 31 2010 11:13 citi.zen wrote:On August 31 2010 10:11 Radfield wrote:GG Town, GG Mafia Have Fun Now I can actually spend more time working and less time playing mafia You will be missed. I was hoping to have your help after today. With both of us alive the town would be in excellent shape. Still, we're not doing too bad. New information:Opz lied. He is not the tracker, I am the tracker. A townie would have zero reason to fake claim tracker in this set-up, so Opz must be mafia. Now, since Fishball "confirmed" him to not have a gun, Fishball lied as well. Now, I realize that from a neutral person's stand-point, you have little reason to trust me. So I'm asking you to think through this carefully. Consider this: my claim comes out of nowhere. I don't think anyone had even one vote on me this game. More importantly, if I am lying you will know as soon as we lynch Opz and he flips tracker. At worst this would be a 1 to 1 trade for the town. For the past day I've played along with Opz, pretending to believe him even when he blatantly tried to fish out my role: On August 31 2010 05:00 ~OpZ~ wrote:On August 31 2010 01:31 citi.zen wrote:
These aren't ego trips bum, they are strategic plays. Fishball going from polite to abrasive, Radfield from neutral to apologetic... pay attention to this tone stuff, it rarely happens without a reason. Hey Citizen...I'm guessing you think Radfield should be tracked tonight? =P
Would you do that if you were tracker? I stayed quiet to make sure I'd live one more night to narrow down the whole "traitor in the top 6" saga. I was also concerned bad santa could give the mafia many KPs and wanted to check Chaoser. These are facts. Now let me give you some speculation: I strongly believe Southrawarea is also red and the mafia roleblocked the CV hit tonight after I insisted we use the CV on South instead of LSB. We'll have time to sort this out after we kill Opz though. My night actions thus far went to: Night one: JeeJee, saw him visit DarthThienAn. Once JeeJee confirms this action, you have more reason to think I am telling the truth. The alternative is that JeeJee and I are both red, which you would know as soon as Opz flipped tracker. In the unlikely possibility JeeJee will not confirm my story, JeeJee is red. In that case I would not care whether you lynch me or Opz, either action would give you 3 mafia and we'd be sitting pretty. Night two: I tracked Chaoser. He stayed put, so Chaoser is confirmed town. I tracked him because I feared the mafia might have more KP through the bad santa, and because bad santa is a non-traveling role. Plan: Lynch Opz today and win this thing. If everyone decides to follow your lynch, I will cast my vote for Opz as well. But I want everyone, including you, to remember one thing. I said he has no gun, and that is a true as it gets. If he flips non-tracker town, I will gladly remove my suspicion of you.
If I know he is Townie, and I vote for him, that would actually make me MORE suspicious if he flip Town. No?
Since I know my own alignment, and I know Opz has no gun, there are only two possibilities to me.
Either Opz lied about being a tracker, and is another blue/vanilla role, or Citizen is Mafia, trying to frame Opz.
To everyone else, pretty much what Citizen listed in his post.
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On August 31 2010 12:01 SiNiquity wrote:We have 48 hours before nightfall, don't drop the ball and majority lynch.These are just a few of the questions that must be resolved: - What happened to Rasta last night?
- Did JeeJee really visit Darth on night 1?
- Who visited LSB last night?
- Why would Fishball even consider voting for OpZ if he has proved his innocence? Flip-Flop?
- OpZ's explanation / counter-counter claim.
#4.
God damn it, read my post above.
I wasn't really going to vote for him.
That statement was just used to exaggerate my point.
Who would be THAT dumb?
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Wtf, shit just got more complicated by 10 folds.
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Have anyone thought about the possibility that that Mafia could be Roleblocking/Scum Doctor Protecting LSB/SR, just to plant a seed of doubt, as well as dragging things out even more?
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Did the possibility of SR being the Vengeful Player just went right out of the window?
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On September 01 2010 05:36 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 05:15 Fishball wrote:
Did the possibility of SR being the Vengeful Player just went right out of the window? I love how you drop in the thread to stir the pot every now and then. You never follow it up, never point fingers, you just raise these coy little questions. Unless someone accuses you that is, then we actually get long posts. Right out of the mafia manual, right? Give the town nothing. Fishball and SR are my top suspects. Then there's the roleblocker, who has to be one of BrownBear, JeeJee or DTA.
I guess you didn't read the "longer" post from me a couple days ago.
I explained everything there. This is how I roll.
If there are any patterns to track, this is one of them.
I'm just simply reminding this possibility with a question.
So same thing I said to Radfield, take it or leave it.
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On September 01 2010 06:11 Pandain wrote:
Okay so: JeeJee is still not roleblocker. There is a slight chance he could be town roleblocker but a) Why would he do that and b)Why would he deviate from plan. and c) Why would he roleblock rastaban.
He could be mafia doctor or scum, but any definite analysis on that will require more information(such as the alignment on darth most importantly.) Thus another reason to kill darth tonight.
BB, DTA, and JeeJee are on my track list next Night. I'll let you guys decide who to track this time.
Checking citizen could be a "surprisingly" good idea too. At least it gives him confirmation if he ends up without a gun.
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On September 01 2010 06:59 Pandain wrote:
Also, everyone whos not voting South I want a good reason why. Or big FoS on you.
People who have: LSB, Chaoser, me, Bum.
Fishball, even though my love for you increased 10 fold after you said "That's how I roll", I would like to hear why you are not voting SouthRawrea.
You too, Citizen.
I never said I wasn't going to vote for SR did I?
I simply raised a question, and it got blown out of proportion by citizen.
Just got back from dinner, but seems like everything that needs to be done, has been done already.
I'm still catching up with the thread right now.
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On September 01 2010 21:04 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 15:21 chaoser wrote:
Hmm interesting...so me rasta or LSB is a traitor... Incorrect. Hesmyr said he picked CV but it was taken. Rastaban could be red, but not traitor.
No, SR picked CV but said it was taken.
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Posting this before I get too busy during the day.
So SR flipped Vanilla Townie. We have to assume he is telling the truth, or else he would be banned in future games anyways. That leaves LSB and Chaoser, one of them as the Traitor.
We tried CVing LSB the other Night, but Rastaban was role blocked. Chaoser himself should be Bad Santa, and provided a list of "innocents". The main question would be who to lynch next. LSB would be the obvious choice for most of us, due to the fact he survived. Yes, framing by the Mafia could be a possibility, but that isn't important right now. I'm thinking if we choose Chaoser, the benefits would be greater. If we lynch Chaoser, and he flips Traitor, then of course we would know the list is fake and the Traitor issue would be solved. If he flips Mafia, the list would still be fake and LSB is most likely the Traitor. If he flipped Pro-Town Bad Santa, then the list is basically confirmed; Town would have a go-to circle, and all debate about "who could be Mafia" among those players would end immediately.
Some might ask, if we lynch LSB, and he flips Traitor/Mafia, wouldn't that confirm Chaoser? The answer would be no, as we still won't know for sure what role and alignment Chaoser is, and for all that matters, he could still be Traitor/Mafia (Depending on what LSB Flips).
These are my thoughts in a nutshell. Again, I'll let you guys decide.
On September 01 2010 06:36 Fishball wrote:
BB, DTA, and JeeJee are on my track list next Night. I'll let you guys decide who to track this time.
Checking citizen could be a "surprisingly" good idea too. At least it gives him confirmation if he ends up without a gun.
So far only Pandain has spoken out wanting me to check JeeJee, but ~OpZ~ wants him dead.
If we are CVing JeeJee tonight, let me know who to check from my post above, so we don't target the same players. BrownBear has been MIA pretty much the entire game but out of the blue, he actually commented on the game itself, and not apologizing for not being here.
On September 01 2010 13:45 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 11:47 DarthThienAn wrote:On September 01 2010 06:01 citi.zen wrote:
Just to close this loop then: DTA, could you confirm whether or not you got visited by the RB on night one? I would've told the town anything worth telling like that. Notice how he doesn't explicitly say no. Just saying.
DTA has been drawing suspicion since early in the game, but has been "performing" a bit better the last couple days. Legitimate or an act. Who knows.
Citizen isn't exactly one of my "real" investigation candidates, and should only be investigated if the Bad Santa list is fake.
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On September 01 2010 23:20 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 23:09 Fishball wrote:Posting this before I get too busy during the day. So SR flipped Vanilla Townie. We have to assume he is telling the truth, or else he would be banned in future games anyways. That leaves LSB and Chaoser, one of them as the Traitor. We tried CVing LSB the other Night, but Rastaban was role blocked. Chaoser himself should be Bad Santa, and provided a list of "innocents". The main question would be who to lynch next. LSB would be the obvious choice for most of us, due to the fact he survived. Yes, framing by the Mafia could be a possibility, but that isn't important right now. I'm thinking if we choose Chaoser, the benefits would be greater. If we lynch Chaoser, and he flips Traitor, then of course we would know the list is fake and the Traitor issue would be solved. If he flips Mafia, the list would still be fake and LSB is most likely the Traitor. If he flipped Pro-Town Bad Santa, then the list is basically confirmed; Town would have a go-to circle, and all debate about "who could be Mafia" among those players would end immediately. Some might ask, if we lynch LSB, and he flips Traitor/Mafia, wouldn't that confirm Chaoser? The answer would be no, as we still won't know for sure what role and alignment Chaoser is, and for all that matters, he could still be Traitor/Mafia (Depending on what LSB Flips). These are my thoughts in a nutshell. Again, I'll let you guys decide. On September 01 2010 06:36 Fishball wrote:
BB, DTA, and JeeJee are on my track list next Night. I'll let you guys decide who to track this time.
Checking citizen could be a "surprisingly" good idea too. At least it gives him confirmation if he ends up without a gun. So far only Pandain has spoken out wanting me to check JeeJee, but ~OpZ~ wants him dead. If we are CVing JeeJee tonight, let me know who to check from my post above, so we don't target the same players. BrownBear has been MIA pretty much the entire game but out of the blue, he actually commented on the game itself, and not apologizing for not being here. On September 01 2010 13:45 BrownBear wrote:On September 01 2010 11:47 DarthThienAn wrote:On September 01 2010 06:01 citi.zen wrote:
Just to close this loop then: DTA, could you confirm whether or not you got visited by the RB on night one? I would've told the town anything worth telling like that. Notice how he doesn't explicitly say no. Just saying. DTA has been drawing suspicion since early in the game, but has been "performing" a bit better the last couple days. Legitimate or an act. Who knows. Citizen isn't exactly one of my "real" investigation candidates, and should only be investigated if the Bad Santa list is fake. While I'd rather live, I'd also rather the town win. This plan sounds legit and except for giving mafia another night to do shit in, should be followed. Lynch me today if you want, confirm my list, so on. The obvious reason I was talking about is that 1) I have no real reason as mafia to give my list the way I did. Even if you argue that it was to bye citi.zen/opz another day of life, that's basically 2 mafia dead for 1 day of life. LSB was suppose to die last night but CV got role blocked, that's enough proof for me. LSB is either dead last night, or lynched today. If LSB was town, mafia would have just let rasta CV him, then I would be thought of as "traitor" and then you'd all go after me. A townie dies and the next day we're back at step 1, trying to find out who traitor is.
You do bring up a good point from the Mafia point of view about bringing up the list, but this argument can go in circles (as well as most of the arguments in Mafia games). Hell, people still accuse me, and to be quite frankly, there is nothing I can do to prove myself 100%, there will always be doubt.
The way I see it, both of you are likely to end up dead, due to one of the reasons I listed above. Let's says best case scenario, we do nail LSB as the Traitor, but it doesn't clears you at all. The fact that 3 players would be cleared if you flipped Pro-Town, is a HUGE advantage to Town.
Thanks for agreeing with me though.
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On September 02 2010 03:21 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 23:33 Fishball wrote:On September 01 2010 23:20 chaoser wrote:On September 01 2010 23:09 Fishball wrote:Posting this before I get too busy during the day. So SR flipped Vanilla Townie. We have to assume he is telling the truth, or else he would be banned in future games anyways. That leaves LSB and Chaoser, one of them as the Traitor. We tried CVing LSB the other Night, but Rastaban was role blocked. Chaoser himself should be Bad Santa, and provided a list of "innocents". The main question would be who to lynch next. LSB would be the obvious choice for most of us, due to the fact he survived. Yes, framing by the Mafia could be a possibility, but that isn't important right now. I'm thinking if we choose Chaoser, the benefits would be greater. If we lynch Chaoser, and he flips Traitor, then of course we would know the list is fake and the Traitor issue would be solved. If he flips Mafia, the list would still be fake and LSB is most likely the Traitor. If he flipped Pro-Town Bad Santa, then the list is basically confirmed; Town would have a go-to circle, and all debate about "who could be Mafia" among those players would end immediately. Some might ask, if we lynch LSB, and he flips Traitor/Mafia, wouldn't that confirm Chaoser? The answer would be no, as we still won't know for sure what role and alignment Chaoser is, and for all that matters, he could still be Traitor/Mafia (Depending on what LSB Flips). These are my thoughts in a nutshell. Again, I'll let you guys decide. On September 01 2010 06:36 Fishball wrote:
BB, DTA, and JeeJee are on my track list next Night. I'll let you guys decide who to track this time.
Checking citizen could be a "surprisingly" good idea too. At least it gives him confirmation if he ends up without a gun. So far only Pandain has spoken out wanting me to check JeeJee, but ~OpZ~ wants him dead. If we are CVing JeeJee tonight, let me know who to check from my post above, so we don't target the same players. BrownBear has been MIA pretty much the entire game but out of the blue, he actually commented on the game itself, and not apologizing for not being here. On September 01 2010 13:45 BrownBear wrote:On September 01 2010 11:47 DarthThienAn wrote:On September 01 2010 06:01 citi.zen wrote:
Just to close this loop then: DTA, could you confirm whether or not you got visited by the RB on night one? I would've told the town anything worth telling like that. Notice how he doesn't explicitly say no. Just saying. DTA has been drawing suspicion since early in the game, but has been "performing" a bit better the last couple days. Legitimate or an act. Who knows. Citizen isn't exactly one of my "real" investigation candidates, and should only be investigated if the Bad Santa list is fake. While I'd rather live, I'd also rather the town win. This plan sounds legit and except for giving mafia another night to do shit in, should be followed. Lynch me today if you want, confirm my list, so on. The obvious reason I was talking about is that 1) I have no real reason as mafia to give my list the way I did. Even if you argue that it was to bye citi.zen/opz another day of life, that's basically 2 mafia dead for 1 day of life. LSB was suppose to die last night but CV got role blocked, that's enough proof for me. LSB is either dead last night, or lynched today. If LSB was town, mafia would have just let rasta CV him, then I would be thought of as "traitor" and then you'd all go after me. A townie dies and the next day we're back at step 1, trying to find out who traitor is. You do bring up a good point from the Mafia point of view about bringing up the list, but this argument can go in circles (as well as most of the arguments in Mafia games). Hell, people still accuse me, and to be quite frankly, there is nothing I can do to prove myself 100%, there will always be doubt. The way I see it, both of you are likely to end up dead, due to one of the reasons I listed above. Let's says best case scenario, we do nail LSB as the Traitor, but it doesn't clears you at all. The fact that 3 players would be cleared if you flipped Pro-Town, is a HUGE advantage to Town. Thanks for agreeing with me though. How about you check LSB tonight and tell us if he has a gun or not? The role-blocker can't block both you and the CV.
It's fine by me, since I said I'll take suggestions.
But why would they Role Block our CV again if we're not hitting LSB? And if we're hitting LSB, and get Role Blocked, and I revealed he has a gun, we still cant kill him until a lynch later, and Chaoser himself is not cleared. If lynching Chaoser flips him green, LSB will have to die regardless, along with 3 confirmed Townies. I really think it isn't necessary to use more resources here.
If more people wants me to check LSB, I'll do it. If not, we'll have to figure out our actions fast. So far there are only a few of us that checked in this morning.
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Edit:
To clarify my wording after re-reading my post.
along with 3 confirmed Townies -> and Town gets 3 confirmed Townies.
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On September 01 2010 22:05 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 21:48 Fishball wrote:On September 01 2010 21:04 citi.zen wrote:On September 01 2010 15:21 chaoser wrote:
Hmm interesting...so me rasta or LSB is a traitor... Incorrect. Hesmyr said he picked CV but it was taken. Rastaban could be red, but not traitor. No, SR picked CV but said it was taken. No, SR picker traitor. Hesmyr picked CV.
I just caught this post while having lunch. You are right.
I should restrain from posting in the mornings...
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On September 02 2010 03:58 Pandain wrote:
No don't check LSB, keep checking JeeJee. As I said, we need to know whether he's scum or town. Either way, he will be valiuable to that side.
JeeJee, if your Joat claim now, so you can protect yourself tonight. In addition, I won't have to martyr you. Also, who did you visit last night. I have a sneaking suspicion it might be JeeJee, but since you are so reluctant to talk I am unsure.
So let's take care of this traitor situation. Now as a SFA member I can't lynch Chaoser, but I can advocate for it, and definitely support CVing him(as he is).
Because sadly, we cannot tell who Chaoser is. But tommorow we will have a surefire lynch.
Tommorow, we lynch LSB.
JeeJee, if your alignment cop I want you to investigate one of the confirmed townies (opz or sinquity.) That will help you define your sanity. If not alignment cop and are doctor, protect one of Citizen, fishball, or watcher. If Joat, talk to someone and reveal your results. Talk to me.......! n.n
Fishball check JeeJee,
However, in the case that brownbear is roleblocker just to be sure we should track Brownbear. Meanwhile, the watcher watches JeeJee to make sure Fishball will check. Therefore, if either Brownbear or Fishball are roleblocker they will either be forced to not use there power or will be caught.
If JeeJee is alignment cop(which I think he is unless he is scum), than he will have known his sanity by then.
Really though, we can either track Brownbear or Darthien. Which do you guys want?
Everyone agree, or disagree? Please discuss.
Um, how can I be the Role Blocker when Zeks already checked me?
Plus I visited ~Opz~ and Sin. If they got role blocked they would have been notified.
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On September 02 2010 04:39 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2010 03:36 Fishball wrote:On September 02 2010 03:21 citi.zen wrote:On September 01 2010 23:33 Fishball wrote:On September 01 2010 23:20 chaoser wrote:On September 01 2010 23:09 Fishball wrote:Posting this before I get too busy during the day. So SR flipped Vanilla Townie. We have to assume he is telling the truth, or else he would be banned in future games anyways. That leaves LSB and Chaoser, one of them as the Traitor. We tried CVing LSB the other Night, but Rastaban was role blocked. Chaoser himself should be Bad Santa, and provided a list of "innocents". The main question would be who to lynch next. LSB would be the obvious choice for most of us, due to the fact he survived. Yes, framing by the Mafia could be a possibility, but that isn't important right now. I'm thinking if we choose Chaoser, the benefits would be greater. If we lynch Chaoser, and he flips Traitor, then of course we would know the list is fake and the Traitor issue would be solved. If he flips Mafia, the list would still be fake and LSB is most likely the Traitor. If he flipped Pro-Town Bad Santa, then the list is basically confirmed; Town would have a go-to circle, and all debate about "who could be Mafia" among those players would end immediately. Some might ask, if we lynch LSB, and he flips Traitor/Mafia, wouldn't that confirm Chaoser? The answer would be no, as we still won't know for sure what role and alignment Chaoser is, and for all that matters, he could still be Traitor/Mafia (Depending on what LSB Flips). These are my thoughts in a nutshell. Again, I'll let you guys decide. On September 01 2010 06:36 Fishball wrote:
BB, DTA, and JeeJee are on my track list next Night. I'll let you guys decide who to track this time.
Checking citizen could be a "surprisingly" good idea too. At least it gives him confirmation if he ends up without a gun. So far only Pandain has spoken out wanting me to check JeeJee, but ~OpZ~ wants him dead. If we are CVing JeeJee tonight, let me know who to check from my post above, so we don't target the same players. BrownBear has been MIA pretty much the entire game but out of the blue, he actually commented on the game itself, and not apologizing for not being here. On September 01 2010 13:45 BrownBear wrote:On September 01 2010 11:47 DarthThienAn wrote:On September 01 2010 06:01 citi.zen wrote:
Just to close this loop then: DTA, could you confirm whether or not you got visited by the RB on night one? I would've told the town anything worth telling like that. Notice how he doesn't explicitly say no. Just saying. DTA has been drawing suspicion since early in the game, but has been "performing" a bit better the last couple days. Legitimate or an act. Who knows. Citizen isn't exactly one of my "real" investigation candidates, and should only be investigated if the Bad Santa list is fake. While I'd rather live, I'd also rather the town win. This plan sounds legit and except for giving mafia another night to do shit in, should be followed. Lynch me today if you want, confirm my list, so on. The obvious reason I was talking about is that 1) I have no real reason as mafia to give my list the way I did. Even if you argue that it was to bye citi.zen/opz another day of life, that's basically 2 mafia dead for 1 day of life. LSB was suppose to die last night but CV got role blocked, that's enough proof for me. LSB is either dead last night, or lynched today. If LSB was town, mafia would have just let rasta CV him, then I would be thought of as "traitor" and then you'd all go after me. A townie dies and the next day we're back at step 1, trying to find out who traitor is. You do bring up a good point from the Mafia point of view about bringing up the list, but this argument can go in circles (as well as most of the arguments in Mafia games). Hell, people still accuse me, and to be quite frankly, there is nothing I can do to prove myself 100%, there will always be doubt. The way I see it, both of you are likely to end up dead, due to one of the reasons I listed above. Let's says best case scenario, we do nail LSB as the Traitor, but it doesn't clears you at all. The fact that 3 players would be cleared if you flipped Pro-Town, is a HUGE advantage to Town. Thanks for agreeing with me though. How about you check LSB tonight and tell us if he has a gun or not? The role-blocker can't block both you and the CV. It's fine by me, since I said I'll take suggestions. But why would they Role Block our CV again if we're not hitting LSB? And if we're hitting LSB, and get Role Blocked, and I revealed he has a gun, we still cant kill him until a lynch later, and Chaoser himself is not cleared. If lynching Chaoser flips him green, LSB will have to die regardless, along with 3 confirmed Townies. I really think it isn't necessary to use more resources here. If more people wants me to check LSB, I'll do it. If not, we'll have to figure out our actions fast. So far there are only a few of us that checked in this morning. Quite the slip-up there comrade. In your view the RB would only stop us if we tried to hit LSB, so we should try to hit someone else, whom the RB would let us kill, right? Peach of a plan - let's allow the mafia more night KPs to use as they wish.
Trying hard citizen?
That statement was just in reply to your idiotic proposal of checking LSB. I try to keep my manners, but it's obviously you're just single minded.
I have no problems whatsoever if we try to CV him again, like what Pandain proposed.
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On September 02 2010 06:04 citi.zen wrote:
You stated you think the RB will not block us if we hit someone other than LSB.
No, I did not say that, nor imply that. That is what YOU think what I said. Simple question, blown out of proportion. Big surprise.
On September 02 2010 06:04 citi.zen wrote:
I would restate that more broadly as follows: we cannot use the CV hit tonight to kill a red, the mafia will not allow it!
Do you still think we should switch our CV target in the hope the hit will go through?
I think I know what you're trying to say now.
You're basically implying Rastaban will be blocked for sure. That I don't know; I'm an equally good target to be blocked, even yourself as the Tracker to a lesser extent. Hell, we still don't know if we have a JOAT or not. It is also not guaranteed that we WILL hit a red. At the end, they will have to pick.
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