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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
August 06 2010 03:18 GMT
#241
Bill Murray's attitude is awfully serious for his norm...
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
August 06 2010 03:24 GMT
#242
In response to bumatlarge's post...

Green townies should basically talk a lot (reasonably and not spamming of course) and make themselves a threat to the mafia. That way, the mafia want to hit them, and the greenies take a hit, which is better than a blue taking a hit. Veterans should do the same thing.

Anyway, I think it's too early to do a "who's posted" post (unless you really want to), so I'm going to leave that for another few hours at least.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2010 03:24 GMT
#243
On August 06 2010 12:03 Bill Murray wrote:
I proclaim the Random Voting Stage hereby dead.
I am voting not for randomness, but because I actually believe Divinek is Mafia.


RNG is pure evil, agreed.

Yeah lynch divinek! But I guess in his defense, he posts like that normally. Look at last game, it may seem like hes trying to create a persona as town, but I think you should judge him based the direction of his posts in general. He just comes off that way because he is a fa+ Show Spoiler +
bulous opinion maker <3


But by all means, lets lynch him first if no inactives rear their ugly and obvious head.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 06 2010 03:24 GMT
#244
you obviously haven't been following my play. Go read DarthThienan's game, Foolishness.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 06 2010 03:25 GMT
#245
Pandain is #2 on my suspect list behind Divinek due to PM-land
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
August 06 2010 03:26 GMT
#246
On August 06 2010 11:56 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 11:35 DarthThienAn wrote:
On August 06 2010 11:20 Divinek wrote:
darth are you gonna play normal this game, or at least not like last game

pleeeeeeease


I don't know what you're talking about.

Just thinking about balance, I think it's likely that we have 1 of each blue role? And probably 3-4 ninjas in the game, I'd lean toward 3. Look here for a comparison. Ninjas = Assassins, essentially.

With a roleblocker + framer, something like 7 to 9 blue roles sounds right. Framer essentially replaces millers from previous games, except gives a little more power to the mafia. Roleblocker is standard. What makes things interesting is the ninjas. Not sure how that messes up balance.

Discussion, go!


And for the record: I am always for lynching inactives.

Here's what I'm thinking.

Okay, I'm still looking through that game, but it seems like the Assassin's War (dune ;P) ended too early for any real damage to be dealt.

Ninja's could be an extreamly powerful weapon if they decided to ally with a faction in exchange for protection.

Ninja Ally's with Mafia: We're screwed. The mafia gets a nice Vigilante/DT rolled into one, and the Ninja get's protection from Mafia night kills, and hopes the other Ninja's die before he does.

Ninja Ally's with Town: Town can arrange Medic Protection, and the Ninja can draw upon the DT. So basically invincible ninja. The town gets the Vigilante/DT.

Ninja gets caught by the DT: This would be the best case scenario. The DT could threaten to expose the Ninja, so the Ninja is forced to ally with the DT.

So basically we have to identify the Ninja's ASAP and get them under Town control

Yes, because it completely makes sense for the DT to threaten to expose the ninja. Because the DT could do that without exposing himself. Clearly.

On August 06 2010 12:11 bumatlarge wrote:
If this one is half as epic as the nonsense last game, I will be satisfied. Already so many posts, hopefully I can keep up at this rate...
So many new faces

Lynching an inactive is the usual order of things, an initial list of who isnt posting is a decent path to go. But lets assume that everyone will post, so keep tabs on the quality of posts. If someone is posting alot but squekin by on the quality department, thats a solid candidate. And I think we have alot of new players, so just in case you dont know what to post:
- Try not to make useless posts unless your HILARIOUS like me.
- If you dont know where to start, just speculate about the blue roles and ideas. Scared about that? Give opinions about other ideas! Just pour your heart out and if you are completely honest, you'll gain some cred in the view of the town. EVEN IF YOU ARE A GREENIE, MAKE BELIEVE YOU ARE BLUE. But just dont lie, lying is bad (see citizen in XXVIII, even though it was kinda justified). I think it hit me when last game how well BC and his scummers were sniping roles based on posts. If you can think like you are the most important when you post, you will be such a threat to mafia. In a previous game, I said "Dont be afraid to die" but I guess that can be misleading, because I dont want you running out there saying "LYNCH ME" -_- just be willing to put yourself on the chopping block if you really disagree with what someone says or does.
- You know what you are, so use you're own gut feelings on things. Dont listen to what ANYONE else says, unless you can see the benefits yourself. If I am certain scum in your eyes, and no one else thinks so, you have an obligation to make sure that I die, or die trying. I don't believe anyone here is stupid, or else you wouldnt be on TL.
- If you are blue, again use your own judgement, and blend in as much as possible. Do what you gotta do, post like you think you should to stay alive.
- If you are mafia, try to hit your own team members with some convoluted plan, frame the roleblocker, or roleblock the framer. Thats how you win as mafia.

Im posting this chunk because I am not sure how active I'll be tomorrow due to work from 9-5 and then another job from 6-11

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 06 2010 11:35 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 11:20 Divinek wrote:
darth are you gonna play normal this game, or at least not like last game

pleeeeeeease


I don't know what you're talking about.

Just thinking about balance, I think it's likely that we have 1 of each blue role? And probably 3-4 ninjas in the game, I'd lean toward 3. Look here for a comparison. Ninjas = Assassins, essentially.

With a roleblocker + framer, something like 7 to 9 blue roles sounds right. Framer essentially replaces millers from previous games, except gives a little more power to the mafia. Roleblocker is standard. What makes things interesting is the ninjas. Not sure how that messes up balance.

Discussion, go!


And for the record: I am always for lynching inactives.


Hmmm this seems incredibly scummy, FoS on you...

I kid you darth, ninjas seem just some desu ex machina for either side, increases chances for hilarious situations. I need to read more into the blue roles.

DTA always looks scummy. He can't help it. You can't FoS someone like that with one post. It almost never works that way.

And BC n' co. needed Subversion to run naked through the town with "DT" painted in blue on his chest before they hit someone of consequence. The mafia sucked at blue sniping last game.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 06 2010 03:26 GMT
#247
On August 06 2010 12:24 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 12:03 Bill Murray wrote:
I proclaim the Random Voting Stage hereby dead.
I am voting not for randomness, but because I actually believe Divinek is Mafia.


RNG is pure evil, agreed.

Yeah lynch divinek! But I guess in his defense, he posts like that normally. Look at last game, it may seem like hes trying to create a persona as town, but I think you should judge him based the direction of his posts in general. He just comes off that way because he is a fa+ Show Spoiler +
bulous opinion maker <3


But by all means, lets lynch him first if no inactives rear their ugly and obvious head.

you wouldn't be his scumbuddy trying to dissuade me would you?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
August 06 2010 03:28 GMT
#248
"DTA always looks scummy. He can't help it. You can't FoS someone like that with one post. It almost never works that way. "

No matter what I do... =[
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 06 2010 03:29 GMT
#249
On August 06 2010 12:26 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 12:24 bumatlarge wrote:
On August 06 2010 12:03 Bill Murray wrote:
I proclaim the Random Voting Stage hereby dead.
I am voting not for randomness, but because I actually believe Divinek is Mafia.


RNG is pure evil, agreed.

Yeah lynch divinek! But I guess in his defense, he posts like that normally. Look at last game, it may seem like hes trying to create a persona as town, but I think you should judge him based the direction of his posts in general. He just comes off that way because he is a fa+ Show Spoiler +
bulous opinion maker <3


But by all means, lets lynch him first if no inactives rear their ugly and obvious head.

you wouldn't be his scumbuddy trying to dissuade me would you?



i think bum still wants me to die based on a past game
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 06 2010 03:29 GMT
#250
marky mark and the scummy bunch
that's actually going to be our town this game
you heard it here first lol
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 06 2010 03:30 GMT
#251
I am actually fishing with the Divinek wagon.
Whoever the 3rd person to vote on it is is going to be lynched imo
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2010 03:32 GMT
#252
On August 06 2010 12:26 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 12:24 bumatlarge wrote:
On August 06 2010 12:03 Bill Murray wrote:
I proclaim the Random Voting Stage hereby dead.
I am voting not for randomness, but because I actually believe Divinek is Mafia.


RNG is pure evil, agreed.

Yeah lynch divinek! But I guess in his defense, he posts like that normally. Look at last game, it may seem like hes trying to create a persona as town, but I think you should judge him based the direction of his posts in general. He just comes off that way because he is a fa+ Show Spoiler +
bulous opinion maker <3


But by all means, lets lynch him first if no inactives rear their ugly and obvious head.

you wouldn't be his scumbuddy trying to dissuade me would you?


Let's lynch him and find out.
He wagoned me one game, so I want to see him suffer my pain. Plus it's his fault for coming off as an ass+ Show Spoiler +
uming yet thoughtful poster.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 06 2010 03:37 GMT
#253
On August 06 2010 12:28 DarthThienAn wrote:
"DTA always looks scummy. He can't help it. You can't FoS someone like that with one post. It almost never works that way. "

No matter what I do... =[


Try the Billmurray/Chezinu expand into L/Ace aggression and you'll be ok. That's how I win my ZvTs.

I was kidding about the darth FoS tree.hugger, and I don't want him lynched any time soon. Unless hes scum, then massive FoS on everything he says.
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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
August 06 2010 03:37 GMT
#254
On August 06 2010 12:30 Bill Murray wrote:
I am actually fishing with the Divinek wagon.
Whoever the 3rd person to vote on it is is going to be lynched imo

I once new a guy who swore by the fact that the third person to talk at the start of the first day was mafia.

Yes...you just reminded me of him...did I mention he was never right about anything?
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 06 2010 03:53 GMT
#255
On August 06 2010 12:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Pandain is #2 on my suspect list behind Divinek due to PM-land


Says the guy trying to get me to reveal my role.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 06 2010 04:03 GMT
#256
On August 06 2010 12:30 Bill Murray wrote:
I am actually fishing with the Divinek wagon.
Whoever the 3rd person to vote on it is is going to be lynched imo

By saying this you just invalidated its premise. I think I am going to vote for him just because
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 06 2010 04:07 GMT
#257
Wait did BM just try to do a one man plan but then revealed the plan about 2 posts after he released the bait of his one man plan?

Not good BM, not good.
lalala
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
August 06 2010 04:07 GMT
#258
On August 06 2010 12:53 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 12:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Pandain is #2 on my suspect list behind Divinek due to PM-land


Says the guy trying to get me to reveal my role.

I think we should seriously take a look at this brodooski...he's yet to make any real contribution, despite an overflowing of posts. He got pretty defensive when divinek voted for him, which isn't fool proof I know, but it's definitely something to take note of.

Bill Murray, I may not have any idea how you're playing these days, but I'd totally support you against this brodooski.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 06 2010 04:11 GMT
#259
On August 06 2010 13:07 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 12:53 Pandain wrote:
On August 06 2010 12:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Pandain is #2 on my suspect list behind Divinek due to PM-land


Says the guy trying to get me to reveal my role.

I think we should seriously take a look at this brodooski...he's yet to make any real contribution, despite an overflowing of posts. He got pretty defensive when divinek voted for him, which isn't fool proof I know, but it's definitely something to take note of.

Bill Murray, I may not have any idea how you're playing these days, but I'd totally support you against this brodooski.


Didn't really get defensive, just pointed out that he voted for me when he said we should lynch inactives, yet I've been one of the most active people. Just asked him what his real reason is. Not really defensive.
And yes, sadly I have been less quality than normal. I'm trying to fix it this game by typing larger things and not just one liners. Though I did feel the one you quoted was justified. Still, need to improve.


On August 06 2010 12:06 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 12:03 Bill Murray wrote:
I proclaim the Random Voting Stage hereby dead.
I am voting not for randomness, but because I actually believe Divinek is Mafia.


Far too early to vote for someone because you think their mafia. Far too early, you have like what? 2 lines and a boatload of assumptions. You have no facts, no voting patterns, no motives, no big posts yet.

A vote like this should not be made yet. I highly urge you to note vote Divinek based on this reasoning.
I still believe we should be pressuring every inactive person by threatening to lynch an inactive person. right now, it is the easiest way for mafia to slither through. Make a vote, spread them all out, without making really much a post then and there. By threatening to vote inactives, we get EVERYONE talking, and with that we have the beginnings of real hard evidence, not silly suspicions.

This is the type of post I'm aiming for. Don't feel like I should be voted just because I'm not that good yet(second game.) Getting better, but as of yet do not feel I have the expierence to make the definitive "ok guys, this is what you should do." That's why I think the very first post after Flamewheel said "gogogo" I said, "ok pros, give advice now."
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 06 2010 04:11 GMT
#260
I placed the third vote on Divinek so I must now be mafia.. but wait I then unvoted and voted for BM, so that is he otes me he will be mafia, since they always retaliate vote. Looks like we have reached an impasse good sir, a catch 22
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