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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On August 06 2010 11:13 VayeshMoru wrote: My purpose is simple. I am the Scribe. For what has transpired, and what will continue to transpire, I exist to write these summations of our limited existences. Hopefully a story told is a story saved. Will this hold true I wonder? Sometimes even the immortally captured objects fade to dust. With dust in the air from our beginning turmoil, the records I keep will help us see with our clouded vision. It is time we begin writing the first chapter of our story. Let us begin. Pah! An Intellectual! He must be a part of the Disillusioned Teachers' Brigade! Down with the bourgeois! Arise We have nothing to loose but our chains! ... Wait, aren't we some kindof sci-fi ninja theme? Come to think of it, I'd rather be cyberpunk than communist. | ||
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VayeshMoru
201 Posts
On August 06 2010 11:19 DarthThienAn wrote: Chezinu, you know making a smurf account is illegal right? Hi guys =] Who is this chezinu? I am an aspiring writer who noticed the possibility of great ideas from these games. As such I have taken it upon myself to record the happenings of days. Is what I am doing common? | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
theres always lurkers in every effing game who post the bare minimum to survive there might be one or two that decide to talk a lot but if you don't push the scum they're just gonna stay quiet | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On August 06 2010 11:22 VayeshMoru wrote: Who is this chezinu? I am an aspiring writer who noticed the possibility of great ideas from these games. As such I have taken it upon myself to record the happenings of days. Is what I am doing common? Oh this will be interesting. So here's to hoping this game doesn't end in a total fiasco like last time yes? We're not going to bandwagon people for totally innocuous posts, yes? Oh who am I kidding? This'll end in disaster. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On August 06 2010 11:20 Divinek wrote: darth are you gonna play normal this game, or at least not like last game pleeeeeeease I don't know what you're talking about. Just thinking about balance, I think it's likely that we have 1 of each blue role? And probably 3-4 ninjas in the game, I'd lean toward 3. Look here for a comparison. Ninjas = Assassins, essentially. With a roleblocker + framer, something like 7 to 9 blue roles sounds right. Framer essentially replaces millers from previous games, except gives a little more power to the mafia. Roleblocker is standard. What makes things interesting is the ninjas. Not sure how that messes up balance. Discussion, go! And for the record: I am always for lynching inactives. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
Anyway...Time to come up with some ideas.... How bout we all massively role claim?! No. Anyway, let's stop the spam. Just spamming does not make you active. Spamming gets you voted just as often as being inactive. Ask Chezinu and Bill. And Darth. (Last game?) | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On August 06 2010 11:35 DarthThienAn wrote: I don't know what you're talking about. Just thinking about balance, I think it's likely that we have 1 of each blue role? And probably 3-4 ninjas in the game, I'd lean toward 3. Look here for a comparison. Ninjas = Assassins, essentially. With a roleblocker + framer, something like 7 to 9 blue roles sounds right. Framer essentially replaces millers from previous games, except gives a little more power to the mafia. Roleblocker is standard. What makes things interesting is the ninjas. Not sure how that messes up balance. Discussion, go! And for the record: I am always for lynching inactives. Here's what I'm thinking. Okay, I'm still looking through that game, but it seems like the Assassin's War (dune ;P) ended too early for any real damage to be dealt. Ninja's could be an extreamly powerful weapon if they decided to ally with a faction in exchange for protection. Ninja Ally's with Mafia: We're screwed. The mafia gets a nice Vigilante/DT rolled into one, and the Ninja get's protection from Mafia night kills, and hopes the other Ninja's die before he does. Ninja Ally's with Town: Town can arrange Medic Protection, and the Ninja can draw upon the DT. So basically invincible ninja. The town gets the Vigilante/DT. Ninja gets caught by the DT: This would be the best case scenario. The DT could threaten to expose the Ninja, so the Ninja is forced to ally with the DT. So basically we have to identify the Ninja's ASAP and get them under Town control | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 06 2010 11:56 LSB wrote: Here's what I'm thinking. Okay, I'm still looking through that game, but it seems like the Assassin's War (dune ;P) ended too early for any real damage to be dealt. Ninja's could be an extreamly powerful weapon if they decided to ally with a faction in exchange for protection. Ninja Ally's with Mafia: We're screwed. The mafia gets a nice Vigilante/DT rolled into one, and the Ninja get's protection from Mafia night kills, and hopes the other Ninja's die before he does. Ninja Ally's with Town: Town can arrange Medic Protection, and the Ninja can draw upon the DT. So basically invincible ninja. The town gets the Vigilante/DT. Ninja gets caught by the DT: This would be the best case scenario. The DT could threaten to expose the Ninja, so the Ninja is forced to ally with the DT. So basically we have to identify the Ninja's ASAP and get them under Town control or they could just play normally and not listen to anyone and do as their role meant to do it would be ridiculous for them to try and coordinate with town, obviously easy to do with mafia once they found them but...why would they do this? it'd be a perfectly dick way to ruin a game | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On August 06 2010 10:46 Divinek wrote: you're so lucky i have no kp this game the fact you said this is suspicious to me. you individually do not have kp, but collectively as a mafia i believe you do. i am switching my vote to you unless someone really makes a huge mistake after your post here. On August 06 2010 10:55 Divinek wrote: lol i forgot he was in this game i just saw pandain first in the user list so... ill probably as in like 80% switch my vote to him unless he changes his habits consider sir pandain a place holder then more hyper-awareness of being found as mafia. I'm really feeling Divinek as a scum slot. On August 06 2010 11:02 KF91 wrote: Nope; the two people that voted on BM didn't post their reasons as to why they did yet, so I guess they're just placeholders? Haters gonna hate On August 06 2010 11:54 ~OpZ~ wrote: ....So game just starts and you idiots are accusing people of inactivity....(sorry if thats too rude for you flamewheel. Will try better later.) Anyway...Time to come up with some ideas.... How bout we all massively role claim?! No. Anyway, let's stop the spam. Just spamming does not make you active. Spamming gets you voted just as often as being inactive. Ask Chezinu and Bill. And Darth. (Last game?) Sorry for voting for you bro, but you aren't as active as you used to be. I'm about to change it to Divi-scum anyways. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
I am voting not for randomness, but because I actually believe Divinek is Mafia. | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On August 06 2010 12:03 Bill Murray wrote: I proclaim the Random Voting Stage hereby dead. I am voting not for randomness, but because I actually believe Divinek is Mafia. Far too early to vote for someone because you think their mafia. Far too early, you have like what? 2 lines and a boatload of assumptions. You have no facts, no voting patterns, no motives, no big posts yet. A vote like this should not be made yet. I highly urge you to note vote Divinek based on this reasoning. I still believe we should be pressuring every inactive person by threatening to lynch an inactive person. right now, it is the easiest way for mafia to slither through. Make a vote, spread them all out, without making really much a post then and there. By threatening to vote inactives, we get EVERYONE talking, and with that we have the beginnings of real hard evidence, not silly suspicions. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
seriously if i was mafia i wouldnt have said anything and pushed to have him killed n1 obviously this is a wifom thing to analyze now that ive actually said it but yeah | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On August 06 2010 11:56 LSB wrote: Here's what I'm thinking. Okay, I'm still looking through that game, but it seems like the Assassin's War (dune ;P) ended too early for any real damage to be dealt. Ninja's could be an extreamly powerful weapon if they decided to ally with a faction in exchange for protection. Ninja Ally's with Mafia: We're screwed. The mafia gets a nice Vigilante/DT rolled into one, and the Ninja get's protection from Mafia night kills, and hopes the other Ninja's die before he does. Ninja Ally's with Town: Town can arrange Medic Protection, and the Ninja can draw upon the DT. So basically invincible ninja. The town gets the Vigilante/DT. Ninja gets caught by the DT: This would be the best case scenario. The DT could threaten to expose the Ninja, so the Ninja is forced to ally with the DT. So basically we have to identify the Ninja's ASAP and get them under Town control Hmm. I agree that Ninjas can be very powerful. But I don't really like your breakdown. Ally with mafia: This requires the Ninja to know who the mafia are. It also requires the Ninja to reveal who he is, which is retarded, because that makes him vulnerable, and his objective is to SURVIVE. So this is almost impossible, unless the Ninja takes a plunge based on his instincts... which is pretty silly. Let's assume that he finds a mafia through rolecheck though (talking about later in the game now). The Ninja still has no protection. He has no way of guaranteeing that the mafia won't kill him during the night. And he can't post after death, so all the power to the mafia there. There's no collateral, no guarantee. And mafia will never know who a ninja is, except through a DT, which is also a ridiculous situation unless the DT claims to the GF after a check. So it only really makes sense for the Ninja to PM the mafia member. But why would he do that? The mafia use up his night hits, and then kill him, if they want to. Not to mention, the Ninja just wants to the kill the other ninjas. He doesn't care about town/mafia dying. Ally with Town: this is a bit more likely, but still requires the ninja to know those people. But again, why would a ninja be interested in doing this? He just wants to kill the other ninjas. Unless he gets in contact with DT, there is no benefit for him. Ninja caught by DT: Are you kidding me? lol. People reading, this is an example of a bad plan. The ninja is a VIGILANTE. He can easily kill the DT if the DT threatens to expose him. ... -_- | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On August 06 2010 12:07 Divinek wrote: damn bm's reads are off to a good start seriously if i was mafia i wouldnt have said anything and pushed to have him killed n1 obviously this is a wifom thing to analyze now that ive actually said it but yeah glad you're being honest with that first line. second line is bullshit, and is a lie. if you were mafia, you would be doing what you're doing, because you are mafia. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 06 2010 12:08 Bill Murray wrote: glad you're being honest with that first line. second line is bullshit, and is a lie. if you were mafia, you would be doing what you're doing, because you are mafia. it's not a lie but believe what you believe  can we make a sig bet on if im mafia or not? | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On August 06 2010 12:08 Bill Murray wrote: glad you're being honest with that first line. second line is bullshit, and is a lie. if you were mafia, you would be doing what you're doing, because you are mafia. It's all wifom. And we all know wifom is useless. So let's not talk about wifom things. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
So many new faces Lynching an inactive is the usual order of things, an initial list of who isnt posting is a decent path to go. But lets assume that everyone will post, so keep tabs on the quality of posts. If someone is posting alot but squekin by on the quality department, thats a solid candidate. And I think we have alot of new players, so just in case you dont know what to post: - Try not to make useless posts unless your HILARIOUS like me. - If you dont know where to start, just speculate about the blue roles and ideas. Scared about that? Give opinions about other ideas! Just pour your heart out and if you are completely honest, you'll gain some cred in the view of the town. EVEN IF YOU ARE A GREENIE, MAKE BELIEVE YOU ARE BLUE. But just dont lie, lying is bad  (see citizen in XXVIII, even though it was kinda justified). I think it hit me when last game how well BC and his scummers were sniping roles based on posts. If you can think like you are the most important when you post, you will be such a threat to mafia. In a previous game, I said "Dont be afraid to die" but I guess that can be misleading, because I dont want you running out there saying "LYNCH ME" -_- just be willing to put yourself on the chopping block if you really disagree with what someone says or does.- You know what you are, so use you're own gut feelings on things. Dont listen to what ANYONE else says, unless you can see the benefits yourself. If I am certain scum in your eyes, and no one else thinks so, you have an obligation to make sure that I die, or die trying. I don't believe anyone here is stupid, or else you wouldnt be on TL. - If you are blue, again use your own judgement, and blend in as much as possible. Do what you gotta do, post like you think you should to stay alive. - If you are mafia, try to hit your own team members with some convoluted plan, frame the roleblocker, or roleblock the framer. Thats how you win as mafia. Im posting this chunk because I am not sure how active I'll be tomorrow due to work from 9-5 and then another job from 6-11 + Show Spoiler + On August 06 2010 11:35 DarthThienAn wrote: I don't know what you're talking about. Just thinking about balance, I think it's likely that we have 1 of each blue role? And probably 3-4 ninjas in the game, I'd lean toward 3. Look here for a comparison. Ninjas = Assassins, essentially. With a roleblocker + framer, something like 7 to 9 blue roles sounds right. Framer essentially replaces millers from previous games, except gives a little more power to the mafia. Roleblocker is standard. What makes things interesting is the ninjas. Not sure how that messes up balance. Discussion, go! And for the record: I am always for lynching inactives. Hmmm this seems incredibly scummy, FoS on you... I kid you darth, ninjas seem just some desu ex machina for either side, increases chances for hilarious situations. I need to read more into the blue roles. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On August 06 2010 12:11 bumatlarge wrote: If this one is half as epic as the nonsense last game... I am offended. It's okay. No matter what happens, I have the last laugh. | ||
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