TL Mafia XXVIII

On July 17 2010 12:07 Pandain wrote:


fuuuuck, then what do you do when you realize your life is meaningless in a crime ridden, police nonexistant world?

On July 17 2010 12:18 citi.zen wrote:

Fake roleclaim medic on day 1. That should take care of it.

On July 17 2010 12:21 DarthThienAn wrote:


Guys, I'm a medic.

On July 19 2010 05:10 DarthThienAn wrote:
If you disagree with my plan, let me explain my train of thought. People are going to get modkilled. We want to get rid of mafia. Modkills are going to kill those people anyway, therefore we should lynch someone who would not be modkilled. There are plenty of people who are being unhelpful. I am an example of it - look through to find more people like me. I don't have time to find people like that, but again, d3 is an example. Misder might be an example iirc. Chaoser would be an example. Therefore, we lynch one of those kinds of people, and help the town out by not being worried about it later (is this person mafia lurking or just inactive?) etc etc.

On July 19 2010 05:49 chaoser wrote:


I think it's less about the days and more about the fact that we get tons of information from looking at vote lists

On July 20 2010 13:11 Bill Murray wrote:
the day technically started at 9 pm est/10 kst
my girlfriend and i have been fighting, and i'm sorry that that inhibited my ability to resolve the night's action on time, but we really needed a night out together, and went to see the movie inception. i would like to add that i am now engaged to be married. i will make the day start from midnight tonight as a result. let me go through the actions and see who was to be killed/protected/etc.

On July 20 2010 14:45 DarthThienAn wrote:


You liar. I stacked both hits on Foolishness.

On July 21 2010 00:32 zeks wrote:
you're right i guess we don't know for sure.

but I think its highly unlikely for mafia to bank on the fact that both medics dont know what the other one did to claim a hit just on the fact that its so risky.

not saying d3 is clear 100% but i just think scum would be kinda dumb to pull something like that so early

On July 21 2010 00:35 citi.zen wrote:
Which reminds me - what happened to BC?

On July 22 2010 13:19 Amber[LighT] wrote:
bravo guys! So who's next?

On July 22 2010 13:25 tree.hugger wrote:

Because he didn't.

Either Pyrr is a clever mafia, or a really really bad townie. I'm leaning towards the latter, and seeing as how we don't seem to want to kill the obvious mafia, can we take this one out next?


You're not at all. And you never have been.

On July 22 2010 13:28 youngminii wrote:

How the hell am I not. Can you keep up with the thread please? I backed hyperbola, I backed DTA and I put my reputation on the line for him. If you think that somehow doesn't buy me any credibility at all you're heavily mistaken.

On July 22 2010 13:42 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:


funny how you and d3 pop out of the woodwork as soon as the night post comes up

On July 22 2010 13:48 youngminii wrote:
Okay this is going to be my last post about this topic because it's getting stupid and out of hand (and mostly fueled by me). I never said I was an automatically confirmed town, I said it bought me credibility. Any of you saying 'bah he's an idiot it doesn't mean anything' are mistaken, as it buys me a CERTAIN DEGREE of credibility. /end

On July 23 2010 14:56 youngminii wrote:
I think everyone has to take a step back and stop putting all their faith into BC's claim. In the game I played previously (Godfather mafia) I was DT and I claimed because I had found the Godfather. However, people were still wary of my claim and if I was in fact, scum false claiming then scum would have won the game 100%.

You have to take in the whole picture and think about the possibility that BC is false claiming. He could just be claiming as it'll give him instant 'credibility'. He could be claiming to derail the flame war that happened between me, infundiblusdcxum and chaoser (which my paranoid little self is tending to learn towards). He could be claiming to just create confusion within the town. He could be claiming because mafia have this awesome scheme planned for the game ahead of us. Or his claim can be real.

Just don't forget the possibility of his claim being fake. Don't rush to form any PM trust circles with him. There's quite a chance he's Godfather and that he chose Vet from the start if he's going to make such a bold false claim.

On July 23 2010 14:50 youngminii wrote:

There's no way of us knowing whether or not the claim is true or false. There may or may not be one or two Vigis and even then 2 scum can step up and counter claim.

On July 23 2010 15:29 SiNiquity wrote:
Hmm interesting. So BC is either a Veteran or was protected by the remaining medic (orr Medics can protect the night they're killed, and Roffles protected BC). Is that last one even possible?

On July 23 2010 15:32 Divinek wrote:


i would assume it is but this is a very important question.

BM is that possible?

On July 23 2010 15:36 SiNiquity wrote:


If BC is lying, then there were only 2 hits last night. If there were only 2 hits last night, then no Vigilante fired a shot (unless Mafia stacked, but this seems highly unlikely). Therefore when we call for a Vigilante to claim, some Mafia could claim it worry-free, since no one else could claim it. Worse yet, this Mafia member that claimed could be Godfather and have picked the Vigilante role, so there's no way to know there either (or BC is GF under the guise of a Veteran).

Thus both the claiming Vigilante and BC would need to be checked. If neither were Mafia, only then would we know for sure.

On July 23 2010 15:52 SiNiquity wrote:
Right. But there's .. *double checks BM's post* 12 townies, 7 blues remaining. So the Vigi revealing gives the Mafia a 6/18 (33.33%) chance instead of 6/19 (31.58%) chance for hitting a "real blue."

But there's gotta be some other catch I'm missing. Or maybe I'm just wary of people roleclaiming in general which is why I'm getting that "vibe" from this plan.

On July 23 2010 16:11 Tricode wrote:


Yes and now after letting the vigi know you are going to lynch him lol, how do you propose in finding this vig?

On July 23 2010 16:35 Tricode wrote:


And I would of gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling medic! God way to ruin everything.

On July 24 2010 11:04 Bill Murray wrote:
d3, you voted for two people in the same post when there is a single lynch today, pick one, or i will pick one for you.

siniquity, see the above post where you may not vote for double lynch without voting abstain.

On July 24 2010 12:05 citi.zen wrote:
Ok, let's blow this taco stand.

I am a mad hatter. I am part of a dt circle. I would love to help the two dt's connect. Here's how we can do it:

1. Wait to see if there is a counter claim against me and Tricode, since together we should account for the 2 town Kp roles. If there isn't, we are both confirmed. If there is, we have a red player.
2. The other dt asks a confirmed person they checked to contact me. If more than one person comes forward I will ask the dt to claim. This way, if the mafia decide to fake claim we have two reds, not just one.
3. The two DTs, remaining publicly anonymous, are in contact. We give ourselves a chance to win.

On July 24 2010 12:33 tree.hugger wrote:

If there are 13 votes for abstaining, then we accidentally end the day, correct? Please don't vote at all, or throw your placeholder vote on someone who is not going to carry the day in the end.

For example, I'll add to the double lynch.
##Vote Xelin (Haha, where has he been?)
## Vote Double Lynch

On July 25 2010 02:16 chaoser wrote:


Really? Post some for me please. I'm sure I can find more posts by me that aren't "quotes".

On July 25 2010 02:23 BrownBear wrote:
It's ok to quote and build off the quote with a lot of new content. It's not okay to quote and post 2 or 3 lines not really adding much. I think what d3 is saying is that most of your posts are examples of the latter type of posting.

On July 28 2010 21:32 zeks wrote:
Will be posting quite a bit tonight:

Summary of all DT checks used atm
My dt:
citizen - Townie
zeks - Mad Hatter
Pandain - Mafia

Subversion (I don't know the order):
Protactinium - Townie
youngminii - Townie

Now both Protact and youngminii flipped Townie and now that we know BC is the GF

How the fuck did Subversion die so surely?

Answer: Protact had leaked Subversion out to Pandain (and only Pandain if I'm not mistaken). This is the key reason why he is likely scum and not Miller.

I tried to milk Pandain for more information - and I did get some hints. Will summarize these and post em later

Laxer flipping Miller is pretty awesome for town

Question: Does mafia have 2kp + suicide for a potential 3 kills tonight?

On July 29 2010 09:11 lakrismamma wrote:


Maybe you are right.. Anyone want to clear this up?

On July 29 2010 14:22 Divinek wrote:
d3 is not confirmed in any way unless i missed the part where he got dt checked

On July 29 2010 16:01 Protactinium wrote:

To be honest, when I was thinking about this through since it was a clutch situation in trying to keep Subversion from being lynched, I left the Suicide Bomber out of all my calculations. Still though, I've always been taught it's best to target Mafia early on, since that at least forces them to defend themselves / have their teammates help defend them, which is what brought SouthRawrea and BloodyC0bbler out in this game. With 2 KP Mafia is still deadly, since Medics are pretty ineffective.

At this point, I remember something: d3_crescentia, you said you were protected by a Medic night 1. However, Night 3 only one person (Subversion) died and nobody claimed a hit. I'm assuming a double stack. However, if you were hit and protected then you're as good as town confirmed, since no Vigilante tried to hit you (why would they night 1)? After that, as a focal town player you should have been forming circles. I'm not saying you haven't, but why haven't you been posting other than here and there? And if you had a circle, logically it should have included some people in it. Maybe I'm being completely played by PM Land, but it seems you've been too quiet for somebody of your "stature."

On July 30 2010 06:37 chaoser wrote:
wait, did we double lynch?

On July 30 2010 10:54 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Hmm out of the suspects, misder and rastaban both held off of voting for Pandain. Last time Misder said he would be without internet he was gone a long time so I suppose it could be legit. I still think there is a great case for him but it doesn't look like it's going to happen with Pandain's vote invalidated.

Tree.Hugger said he would get caught up but his only post since then was about the same as the post where he said he would get caught up. I know he has been creating live report threads so he has been busy with something. Of course, that something is on this site so you'd think he'd be here more but there is still time for him to come back and he posted only two pages ago. If you have other suspicions about him please recount them.

My vibe on Rastaban is nooby being played with by BC. BC saw that town was circling around the DTs and needed a counter claim and I know he always likes to fake claim through green mouths. Luckily town lynched BC first.

I still think Misder is our best bet, having defended BC and having been defended by BC. He doesn't have to be around to act in the night if someone else on the team is doing night actions. Even if his inactivity excuse is real, it still hurts town since he might not be around to vote. If you are lynching tree.hugger because he is gone, why aren't you lynching Misder, who has been scarce in the past and is promising to be scarcer in the future?

On August 03 2010 02:10 Misder wrote:


+ Show Spoiler [Day 3 Votes] +

We can almost gaurantee that the rest of the mafia voted citi.zen because otherwise, SouthRawrea would have been every close to being lynched. Anyways, everyone that voted for SouthRawrea is confirmed already. The only people that didn't vote for citi.zen or SouthRawrea are ~Opz~, Subversion, d3, Misder, and LaXerCannon. These are the hardest to figure out in the vote. However, Subversion is dead confirmed detective, LaXerCannon is dead confirmed miller. The only other people are ~Opz~, d3, and Misder. d3 is most likely town aligned (why is this really? All he did was claim medic protection. That doesn't mean his is town aligned, just that he was saved... why does this make him a townie?). So who's left in the didn't vote for either is ~Opz~ and Misder. ~Opz~ abstained; I don't recall the reasoning on this one and I can't find his post where he voted abstain...did he even vote? (also, as I was looking through his posts, he pointed out that Xelin may be mafia). Misder was out the entire day and he voted based on DTA's request the previous day.

I never had any specific connection to BC. The only thing I can recall is BC claiming that I was townie, but he also did that with zeks the Mad Hatter. Then I didn't want to vote BC on Day 4, but I wasn't the only one tricked by him + I voted for SouthRawrea the mafia.

On August 05 2010 09:13 Incognito wrote:


d3 didn't seem to care or have any serious analysis

On August 06 2010 05:08 ~OpZ~ wrote:
All I have to say is, Thank you D3 for not PMing me back. Argh...YOU SEE ME DIE!? So cruel and unusual. *sigh*...And I told you pyrr living was already an issue. Fail argument. And Rastban....argh....I really thought he could be town (notice in all my posts I had a question mark next to his name because I never trusted him) because BC mindfucking someone through PMs seems...very plausible.

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I hate you all.

Argh

Thank you BM...I always appreciate you modding. Just please man. Stick to the rules you start with. I'd Co-Mod for you next time if you need it...