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On August 05 2010 08:19 Protactinium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 08:18 Bill Murray wrote: best post in the thread since protactinium's walls of text^ I seriously wonder how many people bothered to read them... Also what if I said I had made up a lot of the PMs between Pandain and myself?
you did? Hehehehehe. Also: I did read your posts. They were quite good then.
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On July 25 2010 07:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
We lynch southrawr A) is mafia trying to save himself B) is hatter with one bomb on chaoser C) he flips green and we all go wtf .
Said this before to other people but I want all of humanity to share in this amazing quote. That last option.... I was laughing for like 5 minutes straight.
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On August 05 2010 08:22 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 08:09 Bill Murray wrote:On August 05 2010 07:59 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Gracias Comrade Murray you're welcome, bro thanks for thanking me.. also thank you to the players, and flamewheel, ver, qatol, etc. for putting up with my stupidity as a mod Dude, it's all good. I got too frustrated during the game, I'm sorry. I know how much work you put into this.
Agreed, and once again. Congrats on being engaged!
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On August 05 2010 08:48 Incognito wrote: Oh also one more thing you always lynch people who flip red. Always. Even if they're miller.
Not if they save pandas for a living!
Also, I think being the SECOND miller really hurt me :/. Hehe, I was wondering whether I was a miller and than Laxer shows to be miller. I breathe a sigh of relief, too soon.
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On August 05 2010 09:04 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 06:32 Protactinium wrote:On August 05 2010 06:30 rastaban wrote: there also were some other infiltrations, I think we learned Divinek was Vet through PMs. I believe that was more Divinek just claiming Veteran to BloodyC0bbler... yeah but he talked back enough to peg him as red for me so i figured it was a fair trade. really i thought they might think i was some other blue role just bs'ing as vet so they wouldnt hit me then they might etc etc
No offense, but I think that got ruined when you told the whole town you were vet lol.
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On August 05 2010 10:26 citi.zen wrote:
I am fully at fault for not being sufficiently active the day of the claim. Reading back pages 92-onwards, the mafia never found logical "holes" in the plan - they never even invoked the argument Ace brought up (which I continue to think rests on the assumption a hatter is primarily valuable for their bombs, an assumption that is not always correct). Because they could not find logical flaws they started to sacrifice people: BC, South, rastaban. They also made a HUGE number of plainly nonsensical arguments. For example, when it was leaked that there were "multiple dt rep" claims, the mafia said "why would citi.zen not tell us? he must be red!" Of course, multiple DT rep claims should have made it 100% obvious I was telling the truth: if I was red the fake claims would have to come from townies, but why would a townie every fake claim in that situation? So fake claims to me = I could NOT be red. Whatever... there are way too many incoherent arguments that day to talk about all of them.
So I don't think at all that the plan was bad, had big logical flaws, or screwed the town over. It was solid and surfaced clear reds. The town was better off for it. I am really surprised to see everyone watching this, from Ace to Ver or Incognito say it was a bad idea.
And just to be clear: I think this was indeed a town favored set-up. The mafia won so they deserve 2x the congratulations for being active and having a fantastic PR machine when it counted.
That's an extremely good point, and if noticed would've saved us. I myself knew about the triple claim because you told me so I didn't look into it but I should've thought about it from this regard. *facepalm*
Thus proving the valuable asset of reading.
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On August 05 2010 10:29 rastaban wrote:
These are some good points but I disagree with the first, if it had been a closed circle then yeah, that might be legit, but when he died was there anyone who didn't already know he was DT? I mean Zeks PM to me was the sub was my DT and he pretty much outed him in the thread. The infiltration gave us good information on others but it only occurred because subversion had outed himself.
Were you in zeks' circle?
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On August 05 2010 10:48 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 10:46 citi.zen wrote:On August 05 2010 10:45 rastaban wrote:On August 05 2010 10:38 citi.zen wrote:On August 05 2010 10:31 Pandain wrote:On August 05 2010 10:26 citi.zen wrote:
I am fully at fault for not being sufficiently active the day of the claim. Reading back pages 92-onwards, the mafia never found logical "holes" in the plan - they never even invoked the argument Ace brought up (which I continue to think rests on the assumption a hatter is primarily valuable for their bombs, an assumption that is not always correct). Because they could not find logical flaws they started to sacrifice people: BC, South, rastaban. They also made a HUGE number of plainly nonsensical arguments. For example, when it was leaked that there were "multiple dt rep" claims, the mafia said "why would citi.zen not tell us? he must be red!" Of course, multiple DT rep claims should have made it 100% obvious I was telling the truth: if I was red the fake claims would have to come from townies, but why would a townie every fake claim in that situation? So fake claims to me = I could NOT be red. Whatever... there are way too many incoherent arguments that day to talk about all of them.
So I don't think at all that the plan was bad, had big logical flaws, or screwed the town over. It was solid and surfaced clear reds. The town was better off for it. I am really surprised to see everyone watching this, from Ace to Ver or Incognito say it was a bad idea.
And just to be clear: I think this was indeed a town favored set-up. The mafia won so they deserve 2x the congratulations for being active and having a fantastic PR machine when it counted. That's an extremely good point, and if noticed would've saved us. I myself knew about the triple claim because you told me so I didn't look into it but I should've thought about it from this regard. *facepalm* Thus proving the valuable asset of reading. Exactly, this game you and others had 100% CLEAR EVIDENCE which you ignored. Not picking on you, just saying that what the town collectively swallowed that entire was surreal to me. If Ace/Ver/Incognito actually playrd in this game I trust they would have noticed the dozens of plain bad and skewed arguments. Should have been a huge asset to the town, but they just got ignored. Maybe it was due to the way I presented it (this being my second game) but I was not trying to say there were 3 legitimate claims, but only 2. and that you had told both legitimate claimers that there were 3 so they would be forced to reveal their corresponding DTs instead of just linking the mouths. The mafia would want this since killing the DTs would be better than trying to off the mouths. But that's just the point: if there were 3 claims, one had to be from the mafia. AKA I was not mafia. But I was arguing there were only 2 claims, and your DT never existed because you were actually mafia trying to flush them out.
There I would actually start to suspect you only because you're still just assuming its all because he's mafia. Since citizen didn't tell anyone, besides us, that means he didn't "fabricate anything."
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On August 05 2010 11:10 youngminii wrote:Damn I suck
Too impulsive... like me, but you will never change your mind afterwards lol. Take like 2 minutes to step back and reconsider from all viewpoints and you will be alot better.
Where you gonna post your dance btw? :p
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