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On August 05 2010 08:23 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 08:19 Protactinium wrote:On August 05 2010 08:18 Bill Murray wrote:
best post in the thread since protactinium's walls of text^ I seriously wonder how many people bothered to read them... Also what if I said I had made up a lot of the PMs between Pandain and myself? I read them! And they were really good. You were red at the end though T_T But you played a very good game. I sincerely hope you keep playing, man! (also play in my game which will be coming soon hehehe :D)
I'll try, but life is about to start getting busy again. I'll be around once in a while though, I hope.
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On August 05 2010 08:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2010 05:46 chaoser wrote:Here's the diagram I drew up of all possible ways everything could be: ![[image loading]](http://i26.tinypic.com/8wcc34.png) Keep note of the bottom left box + caption beside it. I laughed so hard at this picture you have no idea
aw man me too that was classic (think I linked it to you in MSN, BC?)
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On August 05 2010 08:38 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 08:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 24 2010 05:46 chaoser wrote:Here's the diagram I drew up of all possible ways everything could be: Keep note of the bottom left box + caption beside it. I laughed so hard at this picture you have no idea aw man me too that was classic (think I linked it to you in MSN, BC?)
Possibly it was pretty hilarious.
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On July 22 2010 13:28 d3_crescentia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 13:25 tree.hugger wrote:On July 22 2010 13:21 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I regret nothing. Why the fuck did he fake blue? Because he didn't. Either Pyrr is a clever mafia, or a really really bad townie. I'm leaning towards the latter, and seeing as how we don't seem to want to kill the obvious mafia, can we take this one out next? On July 22 2010 13:23 youngminii wrote:
So on the bright side, how credible am I as a townie ey? You're not at all. And you never have been. 'cept Pyrr is some super-secret-special-awesome mysterious VETERAN FROM THE DISTANT MAFIA PAST. Time to compare vote lists.
This made me feel like some kinda really badass James Bond-ish character 
Doesn't match this moment though:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 21 2009 15:21 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2009 14:14 redtooth wrote:i look away from this game for two days (mostly because of pyrr being either the most brilliant mafia ever or the biggest wad of shit i've ever seen) and we lynch BC. fucktasticly brilliant everybody. well look on the bright side: On July 12 2009 05:32 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Don't think I'm gonna be playing this game anymore after this one.
Oh ho ho! You haven't seen the last of me! ![[image loading]](http://files.getdropbox.com/u/51715/image.jpg) I'm so happy to be accepting the Redtooth Award for Most Brilliant Mafia Ever! Thank you first to the sponsors, Heinz Ketchup! I'd also like to thank my mafia team, especially Bockit! With your help, and the help of many other key unknowing players, even an army of zombies, beings from outside this realm, and God himself couldn't stop us! Plexa must have confirmed half the town as green and thrown a million other unexpected obstacles our way, but after destroying Truthbringer on Day 2 he started writing the clues to fit innocent people perfectly and not fit us at all so it sorta evens out (who the hell is Mr. Julia anyway? Chezinu I guess? At various times I thought chaoser or maybe me...). I'd also like to thank Plexa for ending the game so I can finally be at peace without worrying about this game 24/7. Now excuse me while I crotch dance around the room!
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On August 05 2010 06:30 flamewheel wrote:
To be honest, the Mafia got lucky this game, but the setup is so bad for them that their victory is just as much the town failing to do something as it was the Mafia's planning. You guys can't sit here and play "let's rely on the Detective", especially when your most influential townspeople are killed off so early.
Also, you guys need to go back and read through the previous days. Rereading the thread is amazing and is one of the town's biggest assets.
Although this is true, do you really think ppl want to read through 180~ pages of posts?
On August 05 2010 06:45 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 06:27 Pandain wrote:
Four major events that saved mafia:
1.Inflitration of DT Subversion
2.The Xelin Attack
3.Sexy blue sniping
4.Medic protecting BC(hehe)
I actually think the mafia played badly. They won for a far simpler reason: the town was terrible.
In normal mafia games with 30 players, mafia has 3 KP. This game, they had 2.
In (recent) normal mafia games, the setup is semi-open. Open setup killed town.
In normal mafia games with 30 players, town has 1 or 2 KP from killing roles. This game they had 3. So in one night, town can potentially have more KP than mafia. Which is REALLY bad. Not to mention that you guys had 2 double lynches on top of that.
In normal mafia games, the rules don't change mid game Majority lynch was decisive at the end, but in the mid game favored the town there with the BC/South lynch.
The breaking point here though was the mafia KP. With only 2 KP, you can't really afford to double stack players. Also with only 2 KP vs. 2 vets and 2 medics, you potentially ahve some players that are invincible for a while. This setup was REALLY imbalanced. If mafia had 3 KP as usual, town would have been gone way earlier.
BC's triple lie there on that critical day when offing citizen was actually quite brilliant. I think he could have made more of it if not for the majority lynch rule in effect. Given the rule set, mafia CANNOT be passive if they want to push for a win. This game, the mafia played actively, took risks, and it paid off. Even after the BC/SR lynch, town was confused. Just look at youngminii's list. A calculated sacrifice left town with a bunch of unanswered questions and many wrong leads. I think I can safely say this is the best/most brilliant mafia play I've seen on this forum thus far.
On another note, with citizen's plan: I'm surprised mafia didn't take advantage of one more major hole in the plan. Citizen called for a DT to use a mouth to claim to him. Unfortunately, that's a really bad move that can get mafia some forced lynches. Nobody seemed to see that mafia can claim to be a DT mouth (for a fake DT obv), then claim DT found a red. Town lynches said "red" the next day, but he flips up town. Mafia (fake DT mouth) says oh hmm my DT must be a fake, then offers a town name to lynch. Town lynches the "DT" and oops! its not a DT, whereupon the fake DT mouth finally dies. Which takes 3 whole days. Just imagine how much chaos the mafia can cause throughout that period, not to mention that you still have unresolved issues with the fake claim by citizen etc. So yes, BC blasting citizen was warranted even if he was town. But I think he would've done a more thorough job as town there if he saw things from a slightly different perspective. Regardless, there are numerous things wrong with citizen's plan, as Ace kindly pointed out.
So congratz mafia for a well played game despite overwhelming odds.
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On August 05 2010 08:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2010 05:46 chaoser wrote:Here's the diagram I drew up of all possible ways everything could be: Keep note of the bottom left box + caption beside it. I laughed so hard at this picture you have no idea
LOL, I admit, this is still my desktop at work... speaking of which I probably need to change it.
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Oh also one more thing you always lynch people who flip red. Always. Even if they're miller.
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Mystery solved: Tricode is fuckign around/high.
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On August 05 2010 08:48 Incognito wrote:
Oh also one more thing you always lynch people who flip red. Always. Even if they're miller.
Not if they save pandas for a living!
Also, I think being the SECOND miller really hurt me :/. Hehe, I was wondering whether I was a miller and than Laxer shows to be miller. I breathe a sigh of relief, too soon.
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hm well i was fairly convinced pyrr/proct was red but had no way of convincing anyone but opz apparently  , i need to learn how to push on people harder! god damn inactive sheep townies voting for people that have real looking evidence!
i wish my other confirmed townies like actually talked to me once in a while
was a fun game though for sure cheers.
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On August 05 2010 08:57 Divinek wrote:hm well i was fairly convinced pyrr/proct was red but had no way of convincing anyone but opz apparently , i need to learn how to push on people harder! god damn inactive sheep townies voting for people that have real looking evidence! i wish my other confirmed townies like actually talked to me once in a while was a fun game though for sure cheers.
psshhh. At least I was right on my votes on rastaban/pyrr.
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On August 05 2010 08:49 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 08:48 Incognito wrote:
Oh also one more thing you always lynch people who flip red. Always. Even if they're miller. Not if they save pandas for a living! Also, I think being the SECOND miller really hurt me :/. Hehe, I was wondering whether I was a miller and than Laxer shows to be miller. I breathe a sigh of relief, too soon.
what it didnt really hurt you, you'd have still died if you dt check red bro
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am I the only one that laughed when d3 voted, then pyrr,proct and rastaban all matched his vote? rofl I was like oh dear god you have got to be kidding me lmao.
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On August 05 2010 09:00 Misder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 08:57 Divinek wrote:hm well i was fairly convinced pyrr/proct was red but had no way of convincing anyone but opz apparently , i need to learn how to push on people harder! god damn inactive sheep townies voting for people that have real looking evidence! i wish my other confirmed townies like actually talked to me once in a while was a fun game though for sure cheers. psshhh. At least I was right on my votes on rastaban/pyrr.
yay, i voted for pyrr too :D, but im too weak in letting people stay alive for too long in hopes i can get more out of them. Which has worked like half the time so far so yeahhh.
we still shoulda lynched your inactive ass
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On August 05 2010 06:32 Protactinium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 06:30 rastaban wrote:
there also were some other infiltrations, I think we learned Divinek was Vet through PMs. I believe that was more Divinek just claiming Veteran to BloodyC0bbler...
yeah but he talked back enough to peg him as red for me so i figured it was a fair trade.
really i thought they might think i was some other blue role just bs'ing as vet so they wouldnt hit me then they might etc etc
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On August 05 2010 09:04 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 06:32 Protactinium wrote:On August 05 2010 06:30 rastaban wrote:
there also were some other infiltrations, I think we learned Divinek was Vet through PMs. I believe that was more Divinek just claiming Veteran to BloodyC0bbler... yeah but he talked back enough to peg him as red for me so i figured it was a fair trade. really i thought they might think i was some other blue role just bs'ing as vet so they wouldnt hit me then they might etc etc
No offense, but I think that got ruined when you told the whole town you were vet lol.
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On August 05 2010 09:01 Ace wrote:
am I the only one that laughed when d3 voted, then pyrr,proct and rastaban all matched his vote? rofl I was like oh dear god you have got to be kidding me lmao.
What you didn't expect them to be mafia?
I heard that mafia had 6 times scheduled to check to see if they could hammer a townie I figured no way they could lose if they did that, as town was all fractured.
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On August 05 2010 09:01 Ace wrote:
am I the only one that laughed when d3 voted, then pyrr,proct and rastaban all matched his vote? rofl I was like oh dear god you have got to be kidding me lmao.
we were all stalking the forums like a pride of lions waiting for our prey to make one small misstep, for the weak or sick one to lag just a fraction behind the rest of the heard and then STRIKE!
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I really didn't try hard to figure out who was mafia. So when it happened I was just laughing because it was like there was a serious analysis going on and 3 guys jump out of no where and go "o, wait I have something important to say" - Game Over.
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On August 05 2010 09:09 Ace wrote:
I really didn't try hard to figure out who was mafia. So when it happened I was just laughing because it was like there was a serious analysis going on and 3 guys jump out of no where and go "o, wait I have something important to say" - Game Over.
d3 didn't seem to care or have any serious analysis
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