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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 25 2010 01:00 GMT
#2221
I really think citi.zen is red. I don't see what he gets from faking blue rather than just saying he's a mouth from the start.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 01:00 GMT
#2222
Day over now?
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
July 25 2010 01:00 GMT
#2223
On July 25 2010 09:58 Pandain wrote:
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On July 25 2010 09:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Just wanna go over tricodes posts to find something

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On July 18 2010 07:56 Tricode wrote:
From that list above i believe it can be a agreed on a majority is saying we should lynch an inactive. Other then that I don't really feel like we have enough information yet to even try to snipe someone....well unless they're is a very stupid mafia member.


On July 18 2010 10:30 Tricode wrote:
##vote abstain

Just doing this if I don't make it tomorrow to vote. My dad is spending his last full day at home before he has to leave for a few months for work.

Other then that, I do suggest we lynch an inactive.

1.if we keep abstaining cause we are always uncertain of what to do, we will never push to killing and finding a mafia member if we went at that rate.

2. That person who is being inactive is probably useless to us anyways just because they are not doing anything to participate.

3. One of the inactive are likely to be mafia just because there is usually one or two guys that are inactive or just post a little bit just so they can stay alive.

Either case, we won't accomplish anything by abstaining, it might even hurt us cause if we keep the option in our head we might use it to much in fear of constantly killing townies/blues and such. So I suggest try keeping abstains as placeholders or if you are truly uncertain in what to do.

Otherwise I encourage and highly suggest that we always use our lynches.

On July 18 2010 10:45 Tricode wrote:
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On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:
On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote:
On July 18 2010 09:59 youngminii wrote:
On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote:
EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen!

Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'.

##Unvote Pyrr
##Vote Abstain

I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no?


On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote:
No-Lynch?

Oh hell no absolutely not.

I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing.

No lynch is a terrible idea.

If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS.


Keep using that reasoning through the whole game. Mind you that there are clever players and mafia will always try to manipulate the game by lying.

Add to the equation everyone's fear of being lynched. Then add the fact we have no clues. Mafia don't have to really say anything. You would have to leave the game to a dt (if they find someone and if they come out) to tell you who is red. Then add the fact if that DT is really a dt.

But like i said, try using your reasoning through out the whole game if we just kept abstaining cause we aren't sure all the time.

On July 21 2010 04:02 Tricode wrote:
Hey just finished catching up, sorry for inactivity had to drop my dad off the airport last night and then went to a relatives house. Also every time i refresh or hit next page, it seems like you guys would just add another page on me!

There was just so much to read!

As for now, I find BrownBear's ideas are unhelpful. Wanting to have our vets reveal themselves. Might be a good plan for other circumstances, but in your one and only example that you gave where your scenario worked, you seemed to have some godly player who was just able to survive for once. That doesn't mean that same scenario can apply here (no offense to you vets).

Also this doesn't take the heat off BrownBear for his posts earlier and inactivity especially how BB voted. It seems like you just analyzed a situation real quick came up with a game plan to throw people off your back. I feel you are a better player then how you are presenting yourself this game and I will be awaiting to see more of your responses before making a vote.

Also a few of you seem to be causing annoying chaos. I would keep an eye on these people. They could possibly be a mafia member who are trying to be active, but just annoying enough to act like a stupid townie and cause confusion. Like DTA (though he could just think acting like this would keep him alive in the game for what ever purposes he has in mind, even just being a townie that just wants to avoid mafia attention).

For w/e reason (I'm desperately looking for a job/Real life shit/ video games) if I am absent for the time being I will vote for BB for how odd he is so far in this game with inactivity, his vote, his suggestion that seems to only distract attention from him, what others have pointed out about him, and I feel he hasn't portrayed himself in this game like he did in the last game I played with him where he had more of a dominate presence that helped the town. My vote will change if there is a better candidate.

##Vote BrownBear

On July 22 2010 12:07 Tricode wrote:
This is pathetic, it took me a whole freaken day just to catch up to all your posts and even then I had to skim through some of them and the crap that you guys filled it up with.

There is just way too much chaos and this game is moving faster then I can keep up.

The only reason I see for killing Darth is because his nonsense is causing more confusion to the game more then others, but there are still others who are causing confusion.

With this madness I am abstaining so I can watch and see what unfolds. Hopefully everyone can start watching and reading to things more carefully instead of cluster fucking the thread with useless information that does not help the case or killing someone for hindrance reasoning.

Though I am believing we are in need of a plan and looking into analyzing what people say more. Though if people like DTA keep their shit up, it will become more difficult to do this cause it is distracting.

Also please people don't just see one little action and instantly call out mafia. Try to watch the person and build up a reasonable case. I am betting a portion of you are just confused and not sure what to do and just voting with the crowd or who ever argues the most aggressively.

For now I am abstaining my vote like i said, for reasons of just wanting to have a bit more solidness of reasoning in who I pick and vote for.

##unvote
##vote abstain



So far he doesn't mention BC once, which I find odd. If he planned on hitting him, it was certainly spur of the moment. Why wouldn't he pick one of the people he mentioned? I also find it weird that he now supports BC :/ sounds fairly wishy washy.

On July 23 2010 16:11 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:07 d3_crescentia wrote:
On July 23 2010 15:52 SiNiquity wrote:
Right. But there's .. *double checks BM's post* 12 townies, 7 blues remaining. So the Vigi revealing gives the Mafia a 6/18 (33.33%) chance instead of 6/19 (31.58%) chance for hitting a "real blue."

But there's gotta be some other catch I'm missing. Or maybe I'm just wary of people roleclaiming in general which is why I'm getting that "vibe" from this plan.

Don't think there's any real reason why mafia would be operating by chance. I feel like they're just trying to snipe blues, or people that would be useful.

If the vigi reveals themselves + target, we can lynch them to confirm this information. Targeting Roffles or Jayme would reduce chances of BC being mafia since the mafia had no way of planning to put in one or two hits. One thing stands in the way of that, and that's BC's abilities to fake it.

If BC himself was targeted by the vigi, then simply by lynching the vigi we can make some clear conclusions about BC. I don't really see the mafia making a fake claim if they know we're going to do this, considering that a 1-1 trade for them isn't very good, though it is possible they'd do this. If the vigi really DID flip blue, then it's harder to say but I believe it would semi-confirm BC.

Am I making sense? I'm not sure I am. It's late.


Yes and now after letting the vigi know you are going to lynch him lol, how do you propose in finding this vig?


soft claims vig?

On July 23 2010 16:24 Tricode wrote:
Meh fine I guess, I will take one for the team.

I was the vig. I was aiming at BC

Reasons:
Who the fuck didn't see it coming from me?

Also to the med who protected BC. I hate you with a true passion.

When you guys do kill me to prove what I am saying, I will be honest, I tried reading this thread but it is hard with flame wars and ridiculous claims and finger pointing.

The person under most of my suspicion is youngminii. From comments he had in the beginning when he seemed afraid that BC was accusing him as being mafia (which BC wasn't). To attacking and finger pointing anyone he had a chance to do so at.

Everyone was scummy for what ever lame reason and he tried to push it hard until he could jump to the next person. He jumped a lot from what I can tell.

Now knowing all of you, you will probably say what I am saying is B.S. and just lynch me.

In which I don't care and go ahead to prove what ever crap you want to believe in. After that I hope you all play well and good luck you will all need it.

If for w/e reason i do live. I will contribute w/e and do w/e to help the town, but to be honest I can't really keep up with how much you guys post. Might be just because of personal issues or something i have going on.

Also everyone should listen to BC keep him alive as long as possible. I trust him and so should you.

You will get your proof of innocence after my death.


OK um wow, he says he thinks youngminii is suspicious, and starts saying he doesnt care if he gets lynched, which kinda makes it either seem like an apathetic towny who failed or a really deep scum trying to get away with being a vig, which in itself is pretty ridiculous. Says to trust BC which seems really fishy. Why is he trusting the person he tried to kill?

On July 23 2010 16:35 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 23 2010 16:29 d3_crescentia wrote:
wait what

that post doesn't even make sense

you aimed at BC but you don't want him to die? why the hell would you do that


Ask fishball, hes done it to me once in the past.


And I would of gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling medic! God way to ruin everything.


Both he and BC play it off like D3 never even accused them of that...

On July 23 2010 16:47 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:38 Protactinium wrote:
Wow... uh... words cannot express how sad I am that my hour and some minutes spent writing that post just went to waste.

Still, read it anyway. I don't think Tricode is lying (though why would you target somebody you want to remain alive?) but just in case...

Good night town.

##Vote: Abstain
##Vote: Double Lynch


You are the only one who has figured me out this whole game.

Though I guess you don't know me, if you read my earlier posts I mention how I only join mafia games in hopes that one day I can kill BC.

Since now I used up my vig, that dream has to remain for another game. Now I am basically a green townie with the vig name.

So since I can't kill him might as well not be a true douche about it. What good would advocating his death and lying do? That would be beyond douchey of me if I did.

Either case, my dream failed.


So you gunned or him because you wanted to, how very untown-like I really dont feel comfortable keeping someone like this around, if there going to put some secret desire to kill someone for fun. And I don't think tricode is some noob player, which is weird.

On July 24 2010 11:04 Tricode wrote:
##vote Abstain

Place holder.

I want to see what everyone says before I place my vote.


On July 24 2010 15:55 Tricode wrote:
BC seems confident about southrawrea and does have good analysis on him. And I would like to lynch mafia this time round.

So

Changing my vote

##unvote youngmini

##Vote: southrawrea


On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
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On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.

On July 25 2010 06:57 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:53 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.



I just defended myself against zeks didn't I D


You just asked Zek "why don't you suspect citizen", that isn't really a reason why not to look at you still. You were just trying to bounce off your FoS to citizen instead of defending yourself and giving valid reasons in why we should trust you over citizen.

Says he agrees with BC, but doesn't change his vote from south to citi, and posts after a little bit. Thats really suspicious in my book when you add everything up.


If a mad hatter gets lynched tonight, I think we need to go after this guy. Hopefully one of them put a bomb on BC, because that would help tremendously in figuring some stuff out. Also hope the DT situation gets resolved very soon...


Tricode has an ndying hatred of BC and always wants to kill him. That is a fact of nature.


Mafia constants:

Chezinu cannot be trusted to say anything useful
Ace and BM share a deep hatred of each other
Flamewheel is adorable
Abenson sucks at mafia
Brownbear will fuck up if you ever give him the medic role (and Korynne will be sad)
Tricode will try to kill BC every chance he gets

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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
July 25 2010 01:01 GMT
#2224
Also, if BM was telling the truth day is over now.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
July 25 2010 01:01 GMT
#2225
Whatever, not doing votelists anymore. As a last statement about it, I wasn't trying to intentionally get them wrong. It's very hard to keep track of all votes in general, going through 20-30 pages is tiring and I might miss a few. My bad, I'll just let BM do them from now on.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 25 2010 01:01 GMT
#2226
day is over im on page 103 and getting ever increasingly mad at chaoser for having every single votecount fucked up in terms of South and Citi.zen votecounts
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 25 2010 01:02 GMT
#2227
On July 25 2010 10:00 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I really think citi.zen is red. I don't see what he gets from faking blue rather than just saying he's a mouth from the start.

You're not this bad either. Supposedly.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 25 2010 01:02 GMT
#2228
On July 25 2010 10:01 Bill Murray wrote:
day is over im on page 103 and getting ever increasingly mad at chaoser for having every single votecount fucked up in terms of South and Citi.zen votecounts


haha it's going to end up like I get lynched or something.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 25 2010 01:02 GMT
#2229
On July 25 2010 10:00 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 09:58 Pandain wrote:
On July 25 2010 09:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Just wanna go over tricodes posts to find something

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 18 2010 07:56 Tricode wrote:
From that list above i believe it can be a agreed on a majority is saying we should lynch an inactive. Other then that I don't really feel like we have enough information yet to even try to snipe someone....well unless they're is a very stupid mafia member.


On July 18 2010 10:30 Tricode wrote:
##vote abstain

Just doing this if I don't make it tomorrow to vote. My dad is spending his last full day at home before he has to leave for a few months for work.

Other then that, I do suggest we lynch an inactive.

1.if we keep abstaining cause we are always uncertain of what to do, we will never push to killing and finding a mafia member if we went at that rate.

2. That person who is being inactive is probably useless to us anyways just because they are not doing anything to participate.

3. One of the inactive are likely to be mafia just because there is usually one or two guys that are inactive or just post a little bit just so they can stay alive.

Either case, we won't accomplish anything by abstaining, it might even hurt us cause if we keep the option in our head we might use it to much in fear of constantly killing townies/blues and such. So I suggest try keeping abstains as placeholders or if you are truly uncertain in what to do.

Otherwise I encourage and highly suggest that we always use our lynches.

On July 18 2010 10:45 Tricode wrote:
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On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:
On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote:
On July 18 2010 09:59 youngminii wrote:
On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote:
EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen!

Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'.

##Unvote Pyrr
##Vote Abstain

I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no?


On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote:
No-Lynch?

Oh hell no absolutely not.

I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing.

No lynch is a terrible idea.

If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS.


Keep using that reasoning through the whole game. Mind you that there are clever players and mafia will always try to manipulate the game by lying.

Add to the equation everyone's fear of being lynched. Then add the fact we have no clues. Mafia don't have to really say anything. You would have to leave the game to a dt (if they find someone and if they come out) to tell you who is red. Then add the fact if that DT is really a dt.

But like i said, try using your reasoning through out the whole game if we just kept abstaining cause we aren't sure all the time.

On July 21 2010 04:02 Tricode wrote:
Hey just finished catching up, sorry for inactivity had to drop my dad off the airport last night and then went to a relatives house. Also every time i refresh or hit next page, it seems like you guys would just add another page on me!

There was just so much to read!

As for now, I find BrownBear's ideas are unhelpful. Wanting to have our vets reveal themselves. Might be a good plan for other circumstances, but in your one and only example that you gave where your scenario worked, you seemed to have some godly player who was just able to survive for once. That doesn't mean that same scenario can apply here (no offense to you vets).

Also this doesn't take the heat off BrownBear for his posts earlier and inactivity especially how BB voted. It seems like you just analyzed a situation real quick came up with a game plan to throw people off your back. I feel you are a better player then how you are presenting yourself this game and I will be awaiting to see more of your responses before making a vote.

Also a few of you seem to be causing annoying chaos. I would keep an eye on these people. They could possibly be a mafia member who are trying to be active, but just annoying enough to act like a stupid townie and cause confusion. Like DTA (though he could just think acting like this would keep him alive in the game for what ever purposes he has in mind, even just being a townie that just wants to avoid mafia attention).

For w/e reason (I'm desperately looking for a job/Real life shit/ video games) if I am absent for the time being I will vote for BB for how odd he is so far in this game with inactivity, his vote, his suggestion that seems to only distract attention from him, what others have pointed out about him, and I feel he hasn't portrayed himself in this game like he did in the last game I played with him where he had more of a dominate presence that helped the town. My vote will change if there is a better candidate.

##Vote BrownBear

On July 22 2010 12:07 Tricode wrote:
This is pathetic, it took me a whole freaken day just to catch up to all your posts and even then I had to skim through some of them and the crap that you guys filled it up with.

There is just way too much chaos and this game is moving faster then I can keep up.

The only reason I see for killing Darth is because his nonsense is causing more confusion to the game more then others, but there are still others who are causing confusion.

With this madness I am abstaining so I can watch and see what unfolds. Hopefully everyone can start watching and reading to things more carefully instead of cluster fucking the thread with useless information that does not help the case or killing someone for hindrance reasoning.

Though I am believing we are in need of a plan and looking into analyzing what people say more. Though if people like DTA keep their shit up, it will become more difficult to do this cause it is distracting.

Also please people don't just see one little action and instantly call out mafia. Try to watch the person and build up a reasonable case. I am betting a portion of you are just confused and not sure what to do and just voting with the crowd or who ever argues the most aggressively.

For now I am abstaining my vote like i said, for reasons of just wanting to have a bit more solidness of reasoning in who I pick and vote for.

##unvote
##vote abstain



So far he doesn't mention BC once, which I find odd. If he planned on hitting him, it was certainly spur of the moment. Why wouldn't he pick one of the people he mentioned? I also find it weird that he now supports BC :/ sounds fairly wishy washy.

On July 23 2010 16:11 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:07 d3_crescentia wrote:
On July 23 2010 15:52 SiNiquity wrote:
Right. But there's .. *double checks BM's post* 12 townies, 7 blues remaining. So the Vigi revealing gives the Mafia a 6/18 (33.33%) chance instead of 6/19 (31.58%) chance for hitting a "real blue."

But there's gotta be some other catch I'm missing. Or maybe I'm just wary of people roleclaiming in general which is why I'm getting that "vibe" from this plan.

Don't think there's any real reason why mafia would be operating by chance. I feel like they're just trying to snipe blues, or people that would be useful.

If the vigi reveals themselves + target, we can lynch them to confirm this information. Targeting Roffles or Jayme would reduce chances of BC being mafia since the mafia had no way of planning to put in one or two hits. One thing stands in the way of that, and that's BC's abilities to fake it.

If BC himself was targeted by the vigi, then simply by lynching the vigi we can make some clear conclusions about BC. I don't really see the mafia making a fake claim if they know we're going to do this, considering that a 1-1 trade for them isn't very good, though it is possible they'd do this. If the vigi really DID flip blue, then it's harder to say but I believe it would semi-confirm BC.

Am I making sense? I'm not sure I am. It's late.


Yes and now after letting the vigi know you are going to lynch him lol, how do you propose in finding this vig?


soft claims vig?

On July 23 2010 16:24 Tricode wrote:
Meh fine I guess, I will take one for the team.

I was the vig. I was aiming at BC

Reasons:
Who the fuck didn't see it coming from me?

Also to the med who protected BC. I hate you with a true passion.

When you guys do kill me to prove what I am saying, I will be honest, I tried reading this thread but it is hard with flame wars and ridiculous claims and finger pointing.

The person under most of my suspicion is youngminii. From comments he had in the beginning when he seemed afraid that BC was accusing him as being mafia (which BC wasn't). To attacking and finger pointing anyone he had a chance to do so at.

Everyone was scummy for what ever lame reason and he tried to push it hard until he could jump to the next person. He jumped a lot from what I can tell.

Now knowing all of you, you will probably say what I am saying is B.S. and just lynch me.

In which I don't care and go ahead to prove what ever crap you want to believe in. After that I hope you all play well and good luck you will all need it.

If for w/e reason i do live. I will contribute w/e and do w/e to help the town, but to be honest I can't really keep up with how much you guys post. Might be just because of personal issues or something i have going on.

Also everyone should listen to BC keep him alive as long as possible. I trust him and so should you.

You will get your proof of innocence after my death.


OK um wow, he says he thinks youngminii is suspicious, and starts saying he doesnt care if he gets lynched, which kinda makes it either seem like an apathetic towny who failed or a really deep scum trying to get away with being a vig, which in itself is pretty ridiculous. Says to trust BC which seems really fishy. Why is he trusting the person he tried to kill?

On July 23 2010 16:35 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 23 2010 16:29 d3_crescentia wrote:
wait what

that post doesn't even make sense

you aimed at BC but you don't want him to die? why the hell would you do that


Ask fishball, hes done it to me once in the past.


And I would of gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling medic! God way to ruin everything.


Both he and BC play it off like D3 never even accused them of that...

On July 23 2010 16:47 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:38 Protactinium wrote:
Wow... uh... words cannot express how sad I am that my hour and some minutes spent writing that post just went to waste.

Still, read it anyway. I don't think Tricode is lying (though why would you target somebody you want to remain alive?) but just in case...

Good night town.

##Vote: Abstain
##Vote: Double Lynch


You are the only one who has figured me out this whole game.

Though I guess you don't know me, if you read my earlier posts I mention how I only join mafia games in hopes that one day I can kill BC.

Since now I used up my vig, that dream has to remain for another game. Now I am basically a green townie with the vig name.

So since I can't kill him might as well not be a true douche about it. What good would advocating his death and lying do? That would be beyond douchey of me if I did.

Either case, my dream failed.


So you gunned or him because you wanted to, how very untown-like I really dont feel comfortable keeping someone like this around, if there going to put some secret desire to kill someone for fun. And I don't think tricode is some noob player, which is weird.

On July 24 2010 11:04 Tricode wrote:
##vote Abstain

Place holder.

I want to see what everyone says before I place my vote.


On July 24 2010 15:55 Tricode wrote:
BC seems confident about southrawrea and does have good analysis on him. And I would like to lynch mafia this time round.

So

Changing my vote

##unvote youngmini

##Vote: southrawrea


On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
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On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.

On July 25 2010 06:57 Tricode wrote:
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On July 25 2010 06:53 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.



I just defended myself against zeks didn't I D


You just asked Zek "why don't you suspect citizen", that isn't really a reason why not to look at you still. You were just trying to bounce off your FoS to citizen instead of defending yourself and giving valid reasons in why we should trust you over citizen.

Says he agrees with BC, but doesn't change his vote from south to citi, and posts after a little bit. Thats really suspicious in my book when you add everything up.


If a mad hatter gets lynched tonight, I think we need to go after this guy. Hopefully one of them put a bomb on BC, because that would help tremendously in figuring some stuff out. Also hope the DT situation gets resolved very soon...


Tricode has an ndying hatred of BC and always wants to kill him. That is a fact of nature.


Mafia constants:

Chezinu cannot be trusted to say anything useful
Ace and BM share a deep hatred of each other
Flamewheel is adorable
Abenson sucks at mafia
Brownbear will fuck up if you ever give him the medic role (and Korynne will be sad)
Tricode will try to kill BC every chance he gets



You forgot

Qatol is always blue, even if hes green
Ver, magically appears to break games in two with his mighty ability
Incognito, hes always incognito
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
July 25 2010 01:03 GMT
#2230
On July 25 2010 10:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On July 25 2010 10:00 BrownBear wrote:
On July 25 2010 09:58 Pandain wrote:
On July 25 2010 09:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Just wanna go over tricodes posts to find something

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 18 2010 07:56 Tricode wrote:
From that list above i believe it can be a agreed on a majority is saying we should lynch an inactive. Other then that I don't really feel like we have enough information yet to even try to snipe someone....well unless they're is a very stupid mafia member.


On July 18 2010 10:30 Tricode wrote:
##vote abstain

Just doing this if I don't make it tomorrow to vote. My dad is spending his last full day at home before he has to leave for a few months for work.

Other then that, I do suggest we lynch an inactive.

1.if we keep abstaining cause we are always uncertain of what to do, we will never push to killing and finding a mafia member if we went at that rate.

2. That person who is being inactive is probably useless to us anyways just because they are not doing anything to participate.

3. One of the inactive are likely to be mafia just because there is usually one or two guys that are inactive or just post a little bit just so they can stay alive.

Either case, we won't accomplish anything by abstaining, it might even hurt us cause if we keep the option in our head we might use it to much in fear of constantly killing townies/blues and such. So I suggest try keeping abstains as placeholders or if you are truly uncertain in what to do.

Otherwise I encourage and highly suggest that we always use our lynches.

On July 18 2010 10:45 Tricode wrote:
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On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:
On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote:
On July 18 2010 09:59 youngminii wrote:
On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote:
EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen!

Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'.

##Unvote Pyrr
##Vote Abstain

I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no?


On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote:
No-Lynch?

Oh hell no absolutely not.

I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing.

No lynch is a terrible idea.

If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS.


Keep using that reasoning through the whole game. Mind you that there are clever players and mafia will always try to manipulate the game by lying.

Add to the equation everyone's fear of being lynched. Then add the fact we have no clues. Mafia don't have to really say anything. You would have to leave the game to a dt (if they find someone and if they come out) to tell you who is red. Then add the fact if that DT is really a dt.

But like i said, try using your reasoning through out the whole game if we just kept abstaining cause we aren't sure all the time.

On July 21 2010 04:02 Tricode wrote:
Hey just finished catching up, sorry for inactivity had to drop my dad off the airport last night and then went to a relatives house. Also every time i refresh or hit next page, it seems like you guys would just add another page on me!

There was just so much to read!

As for now, I find BrownBear's ideas are unhelpful. Wanting to have our vets reveal themselves. Might be a good plan for other circumstances, but in your one and only example that you gave where your scenario worked, you seemed to have some godly player who was just able to survive for once. That doesn't mean that same scenario can apply here (no offense to you vets).

Also this doesn't take the heat off BrownBear for his posts earlier and inactivity especially how BB voted. It seems like you just analyzed a situation real quick came up with a game plan to throw people off your back. I feel you are a better player then how you are presenting yourself this game and I will be awaiting to see more of your responses before making a vote.

Also a few of you seem to be causing annoying chaos. I would keep an eye on these people. They could possibly be a mafia member who are trying to be active, but just annoying enough to act like a stupid townie and cause confusion. Like DTA (though he could just think acting like this would keep him alive in the game for what ever purposes he has in mind, even just being a townie that just wants to avoid mafia attention).

For w/e reason (I'm desperately looking for a job/Real life shit/ video games) if I am absent for the time being I will vote for BB for how odd he is so far in this game with inactivity, his vote, his suggestion that seems to only distract attention from him, what others have pointed out about him, and I feel he hasn't portrayed himself in this game like he did in the last game I played with him where he had more of a dominate presence that helped the town. My vote will change if there is a better candidate.

##Vote BrownBear

On July 22 2010 12:07 Tricode wrote:
This is pathetic, it took me a whole freaken day just to catch up to all your posts and even then I had to skim through some of them and the crap that you guys filled it up with.

There is just way too much chaos and this game is moving faster then I can keep up.

The only reason I see for killing Darth is because his nonsense is causing more confusion to the game more then others, but there are still others who are causing confusion.

With this madness I am abstaining so I can watch and see what unfolds. Hopefully everyone can start watching and reading to things more carefully instead of cluster fucking the thread with useless information that does not help the case or killing someone for hindrance reasoning.

Though I am believing we are in need of a plan and looking into analyzing what people say more. Though if people like DTA keep their shit up, it will become more difficult to do this cause it is distracting.

Also please people don't just see one little action and instantly call out mafia. Try to watch the person and build up a reasonable case. I am betting a portion of you are just confused and not sure what to do and just voting with the crowd or who ever argues the most aggressively.

For now I am abstaining my vote like i said, for reasons of just wanting to have a bit more solidness of reasoning in who I pick and vote for.

##unvote
##vote abstain



So far he doesn't mention BC once, which I find odd. If he planned on hitting him, it was certainly spur of the moment. Why wouldn't he pick one of the people he mentioned? I also find it weird that he now supports BC :/ sounds fairly wishy washy.

On July 23 2010 16:11 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:07 d3_crescentia wrote:
On July 23 2010 15:52 SiNiquity wrote:
Right. But there's .. *double checks BM's post* 12 townies, 7 blues remaining. So the Vigi revealing gives the Mafia a 6/18 (33.33%) chance instead of 6/19 (31.58%) chance for hitting a "real blue."

But there's gotta be some other catch I'm missing. Or maybe I'm just wary of people roleclaiming in general which is why I'm getting that "vibe" from this plan.

Don't think there's any real reason why mafia would be operating by chance. I feel like they're just trying to snipe blues, or people that would be useful.

If the vigi reveals themselves + target, we can lynch them to confirm this information. Targeting Roffles or Jayme would reduce chances of BC being mafia since the mafia had no way of planning to put in one or two hits. One thing stands in the way of that, and that's BC's abilities to fake it.

If BC himself was targeted by the vigi, then simply by lynching the vigi we can make some clear conclusions about BC. I don't really see the mafia making a fake claim if they know we're going to do this, considering that a 1-1 trade for them isn't very good, though it is possible they'd do this. If the vigi really DID flip blue, then it's harder to say but I believe it would semi-confirm BC.

Am I making sense? I'm not sure I am. It's late.


Yes and now after letting the vigi know you are going to lynch him lol, how do you propose in finding this vig?


soft claims vig?

On July 23 2010 16:24 Tricode wrote:
Meh fine I guess, I will take one for the team.

I was the vig. I was aiming at BC

Reasons:
Who the fuck didn't see it coming from me?

Also to the med who protected BC. I hate you with a true passion.

When you guys do kill me to prove what I am saying, I will be honest, I tried reading this thread but it is hard with flame wars and ridiculous claims and finger pointing.

The person under most of my suspicion is youngminii. From comments he had in the beginning when he seemed afraid that BC was accusing him as being mafia (which BC wasn't). To attacking and finger pointing anyone he had a chance to do so at.

Everyone was scummy for what ever lame reason and he tried to push it hard until he could jump to the next person. He jumped a lot from what I can tell.

Now knowing all of you, you will probably say what I am saying is B.S. and just lynch me.

In which I don't care and go ahead to prove what ever crap you want to believe in. After that I hope you all play well and good luck you will all need it.

If for w/e reason i do live. I will contribute w/e and do w/e to help the town, but to be honest I can't really keep up with how much you guys post. Might be just because of personal issues or something i have going on.

Also everyone should listen to BC keep him alive as long as possible. I trust him and so should you.

You will get your proof of innocence after my death.


OK um wow, he says he thinks youngminii is suspicious, and starts saying he doesnt care if he gets lynched, which kinda makes it either seem like an apathetic towny who failed or a really deep scum trying to get away with being a vig, which in itself is pretty ridiculous. Says to trust BC which seems really fishy. Why is he trusting the person he tried to kill?

On July 23 2010 16:35 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 23 2010 16:29 d3_crescentia wrote:
wait what

that post doesn't even make sense

you aimed at BC but you don't want him to die? why the hell would you do that


Ask fishball, hes done it to me once in the past.


And I would of gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling medic! God way to ruin everything.


Both he and BC play it off like D3 never even accused them of that...

On July 23 2010 16:47 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:38 Protactinium wrote:
Wow... uh... words cannot express how sad I am that my hour and some minutes spent writing that post just went to waste.

Still, read it anyway. I don't think Tricode is lying (though why would you target somebody you want to remain alive?) but just in case...

Good night town.

##Vote: Abstain
##Vote: Double Lynch


You are the only one who has figured me out this whole game.

Though I guess you don't know me, if you read my earlier posts I mention how I only join mafia games in hopes that one day I can kill BC.

Since now I used up my vig, that dream has to remain for another game. Now I am basically a green townie with the vig name.

So since I can't kill him might as well not be a true douche about it. What good would advocating his death and lying do? That would be beyond douchey of me if I did.

Either case, my dream failed.


So you gunned or him because you wanted to, how very untown-like I really dont feel comfortable keeping someone like this around, if there going to put some secret desire to kill someone for fun. And I don't think tricode is some noob player, which is weird.

On July 24 2010 11:04 Tricode wrote:
##vote Abstain

Place holder.

I want to see what everyone says before I place my vote.


On July 24 2010 15:55 Tricode wrote:
BC seems confident about southrawrea and does have good analysis on him. And I would like to lynch mafia this time round.

So

Changing my vote

##unvote youngmini

##Vote: southrawrea


On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
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On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.

On July 25 2010 06:57 Tricode wrote:
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On July 25 2010 06:53 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.



I just defended myself against zeks didn't I D


You just asked Zek "why don't you suspect citizen", that isn't really a reason why not to look at you still. You were just trying to bounce off your FoS to citizen instead of defending yourself and giving valid reasons in why we should trust you over citizen.

Says he agrees with BC, but doesn't change his vote from south to citi, and posts after a little bit. Thats really suspicious in my book when you add everything up.


If a mad hatter gets lynched tonight, I think we need to go after this guy. Hopefully one of them put a bomb on BC, because that would help tremendously in figuring some stuff out. Also hope the DT situation gets resolved very soon...


Tricode has an ndying hatred of BC and always wants to kill him. That is a fact of nature.


Mafia constants:

Chezinu cannot be trusted to say anything useful
Ace and BM share a deep hatred of each other
Flamewheel is adorable
Abenson sucks at mafia
Brownbear will fuck up if you ever give him the medic role (and Korynne will be sad)
Tricode will try to kill BC every chance he gets



You forgot

Qatol is always blue, even if hes green
Ver, magically appears to break games in two with his mighty ability
Incognito, hes always incognito


I'm too new to have played with Qatol or Ver T_T Did forget the Incognito one though.
SUNSFANNED
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
July 25 2010 01:03 GMT
#2231
Whoever thinks that citi.zen did a townie gambit is retarded after tonight
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 25 2010 01:04 GMT
#2232
On July 25 2010 10:00 BrownBear wrote:
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On July 25 2010 09:58 Pandain wrote:
On July 25 2010 09:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Just wanna go over tricodes posts to find something

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 18 2010 07:56 Tricode wrote:
From that list above i believe it can be a agreed on a majority is saying we should lynch an inactive. Other then that I don't really feel like we have enough information yet to even try to snipe someone....well unless they're is a very stupid mafia member.


On July 18 2010 10:30 Tricode wrote:
##vote abstain

Just doing this if I don't make it tomorrow to vote. My dad is spending his last full day at home before he has to leave for a few months for work.

Other then that, I do suggest we lynch an inactive.

1.if we keep abstaining cause we are always uncertain of what to do, we will never push to killing and finding a mafia member if we went at that rate.

2. That person who is being inactive is probably useless to us anyways just because they are not doing anything to participate.

3. One of the inactive are likely to be mafia just because there is usually one or two guys that are inactive or just post a little bit just so they can stay alive.

Either case, we won't accomplish anything by abstaining, it might even hurt us cause if we keep the option in our head we might use it to much in fear of constantly killing townies/blues and such. So I suggest try keeping abstains as placeholders or if you are truly uncertain in what to do.

Otherwise I encourage and highly suggest that we always use our lynches.

On July 18 2010 10:45 Tricode wrote:
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On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:
On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote:
On July 18 2010 09:59 youngminii wrote:
On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote:
EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen!

Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'.

##Unvote Pyrr
##Vote Abstain

I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no?


On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote:
No-Lynch?

Oh hell no absolutely not.

I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing.

No lynch is a terrible idea.

If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS.


Keep using that reasoning through the whole game. Mind you that there are clever players and mafia will always try to manipulate the game by lying.

Add to the equation everyone's fear of being lynched. Then add the fact we have no clues. Mafia don't have to really say anything. You would have to leave the game to a dt (if they find someone and if they come out) to tell you who is red. Then add the fact if that DT is really a dt.

But like i said, try using your reasoning through out the whole game if we just kept abstaining cause we aren't sure all the time.

On July 21 2010 04:02 Tricode wrote:
Hey just finished catching up, sorry for inactivity had to drop my dad off the airport last night and then went to a relatives house. Also every time i refresh or hit next page, it seems like you guys would just add another page on me!

There was just so much to read!

As for now, I find BrownBear's ideas are unhelpful. Wanting to have our vets reveal themselves. Might be a good plan for other circumstances, but in your one and only example that you gave where your scenario worked, you seemed to have some godly player who was just able to survive for once. That doesn't mean that same scenario can apply here (no offense to you vets).

Also this doesn't take the heat off BrownBear for his posts earlier and inactivity especially how BB voted. It seems like you just analyzed a situation real quick came up with a game plan to throw people off your back. I feel you are a better player then how you are presenting yourself this game and I will be awaiting to see more of your responses before making a vote.

Also a few of you seem to be causing annoying chaos. I would keep an eye on these people. They could possibly be a mafia member who are trying to be active, but just annoying enough to act like a stupid townie and cause confusion. Like DTA (though he could just think acting like this would keep him alive in the game for what ever purposes he has in mind, even just being a townie that just wants to avoid mafia attention).

For w/e reason (I'm desperately looking for a job/Real life shit/ video games) if I am absent for the time being I will vote for BB for how odd he is so far in this game with inactivity, his vote, his suggestion that seems to only distract attention from him, what others have pointed out about him, and I feel he hasn't portrayed himself in this game like he did in the last game I played with him where he had more of a dominate presence that helped the town. My vote will change if there is a better candidate.

##Vote BrownBear

On July 22 2010 12:07 Tricode wrote:
This is pathetic, it took me a whole freaken day just to catch up to all your posts and even then I had to skim through some of them and the crap that you guys filled it up with.

There is just way too much chaos and this game is moving faster then I can keep up.

The only reason I see for killing Darth is because his nonsense is causing more confusion to the game more then others, but there are still others who are causing confusion.

With this madness I am abstaining so I can watch and see what unfolds. Hopefully everyone can start watching and reading to things more carefully instead of cluster fucking the thread with useless information that does not help the case or killing someone for hindrance reasoning.

Though I am believing we are in need of a plan and looking into analyzing what people say more. Though if people like DTA keep their shit up, it will become more difficult to do this cause it is distracting.

Also please people don't just see one little action and instantly call out mafia. Try to watch the person and build up a reasonable case. I am betting a portion of you are just confused and not sure what to do and just voting with the crowd or who ever argues the most aggressively.

For now I am abstaining my vote like i said, for reasons of just wanting to have a bit more solidness of reasoning in who I pick and vote for.

##unvote
##vote abstain



So far he doesn't mention BC once, which I find odd. If he planned on hitting him, it was certainly spur of the moment. Why wouldn't he pick one of the people he mentioned? I also find it weird that he now supports BC :/ sounds fairly wishy washy.

On July 23 2010 16:11 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:07 d3_crescentia wrote:
On July 23 2010 15:52 SiNiquity wrote:
Right. But there's .. *double checks BM's post* 12 townies, 7 blues remaining. So the Vigi revealing gives the Mafia a 6/18 (33.33%) chance instead of 6/19 (31.58%) chance for hitting a "real blue."

But there's gotta be some other catch I'm missing. Or maybe I'm just wary of people roleclaiming in general which is why I'm getting that "vibe" from this plan.

Don't think there's any real reason why mafia would be operating by chance. I feel like they're just trying to snipe blues, or people that would be useful.

If the vigi reveals themselves + target, we can lynch them to confirm this information. Targeting Roffles or Jayme would reduce chances of BC being mafia since the mafia had no way of planning to put in one or two hits. One thing stands in the way of that, and that's BC's abilities to fake it.

If BC himself was targeted by the vigi, then simply by lynching the vigi we can make some clear conclusions about BC. I don't really see the mafia making a fake claim if they know we're going to do this, considering that a 1-1 trade for them isn't very good, though it is possible they'd do this. If the vigi really DID flip blue, then it's harder to say but I believe it would semi-confirm BC.

Am I making sense? I'm not sure I am. It's late.


Yes and now after letting the vigi know you are going to lynch him lol, how do you propose in finding this vig?


soft claims vig?

On July 23 2010 16:24 Tricode wrote:
Meh fine I guess, I will take one for the team.

I was the vig. I was aiming at BC

Reasons:
Who the fuck didn't see it coming from me?

Also to the med who protected BC. I hate you with a true passion.

When you guys do kill me to prove what I am saying, I will be honest, I tried reading this thread but it is hard with flame wars and ridiculous claims and finger pointing.

The person under most of my suspicion is youngminii. From comments he had in the beginning when he seemed afraid that BC was accusing him as being mafia (which BC wasn't). To attacking and finger pointing anyone he had a chance to do so at.

Everyone was scummy for what ever lame reason and he tried to push it hard until he could jump to the next person. He jumped a lot from what I can tell.

Now knowing all of you, you will probably say what I am saying is B.S. and just lynch me.

In which I don't care and go ahead to prove what ever crap you want to believe in. After that I hope you all play well and good luck you will all need it.

If for w/e reason i do live. I will contribute w/e and do w/e to help the town, but to be honest I can't really keep up with how much you guys post. Might be just because of personal issues or something i have going on.

Also everyone should listen to BC keep him alive as long as possible. I trust him and so should you.

You will get your proof of innocence after my death.


OK um wow, he says he thinks youngminii is suspicious, and starts saying he doesnt care if he gets lynched, which kinda makes it either seem like an apathetic towny who failed or a really deep scum trying to get away with being a vig, which in itself is pretty ridiculous. Says to trust BC which seems really fishy. Why is he trusting the person he tried to kill?

On July 23 2010 16:35 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 23 2010 16:29 d3_crescentia wrote:
wait what

that post doesn't even make sense

you aimed at BC but you don't want him to die? why the hell would you do that


Ask fishball, hes done it to me once in the past.


And I would of gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling medic! God way to ruin everything.


Both he and BC play it off like D3 never even accused them of that...

On July 23 2010 16:47 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:38 Protactinium wrote:
Wow... uh... words cannot express how sad I am that my hour and some minutes spent writing that post just went to waste.

Still, read it anyway. I don't think Tricode is lying (though why would you target somebody you want to remain alive?) but just in case...

Good night town.

##Vote: Abstain
##Vote: Double Lynch


You are the only one who has figured me out this whole game.

Though I guess you don't know me, if you read my earlier posts I mention how I only join mafia games in hopes that one day I can kill BC.

Since now I used up my vig, that dream has to remain for another game. Now I am basically a green townie with the vig name.

So since I can't kill him might as well not be a true douche about it. What good would advocating his death and lying do? That would be beyond douchey of me if I did.

Either case, my dream failed.


So you gunned or him because you wanted to, how very untown-like I really dont feel comfortable keeping someone like this around, if there going to put some secret desire to kill someone for fun. And I don't think tricode is some noob player, which is weird.

On July 24 2010 11:04 Tricode wrote:
##vote Abstain

Place holder.

I want to see what everyone says before I place my vote.


On July 24 2010 15:55 Tricode wrote:
BC seems confident about southrawrea and does have good analysis on him. And I would like to lynch mafia this time round.

So

Changing my vote

##unvote youngmini

##Vote: southrawrea


On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
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On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.

On July 25 2010 06:57 Tricode wrote:
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On July 25 2010 06:53 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.



I just defended myself against zeks didn't I D


You just asked Zek "why don't you suspect citizen", that isn't really a reason why not to look at you still. You were just trying to bounce off your FoS to citizen instead of defending yourself and giving valid reasons in why we should trust you over citizen.

Says he agrees with BC, but doesn't change his vote from south to citi, and posts after a little bit. Thats really suspicious in my book when you add everything up.


If a mad hatter gets lynched tonight, I think we need to go after this guy. Hopefully one of them put a bomb on BC, because that would help tremendously in figuring some stuff out. Also hope the DT situation gets resolved very soon...


Tricode has an ndying hatred of BC and always wants to kill him. That is a fact of nature.


Mafia constants:

Chezinu cannot be trusted to say anything useful
Ace and BM share a deep hatred of each other
Flamewheel is adorable
Abenson sucks at mafia
Brownbear will fuck up if you ever give him the medic role (and Korynne will be sad)
Tricode will try to kill BC every chance he gets


Meeple will always protect mafia.
L will try to bandwagon Ace
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 25 2010 01:04 GMT
#2233
On July 25 2010 10:02 citi.zen wrote:
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On July 25 2010 10:00 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I really think citi.zen is red. I don't see what he gets from faking blue rather than just saying he's a mouth from the start.

You're not this bad either. Supposedly.

? I'm not saying your bad. As red its a good move. But as green i think not lying, not hinting I'm blue, lynching all liars is solid play.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 25 2010 01:05 GMT
#2234
MH does give him some mafia hit protection as they will be fearful of taking him out, seems pretty straightforward, but he lied to all of us which doesnt make me happy hopefully the real mad hatter comes forward after and bases his towniess on citi, or maybe citi can just say his name or something idk its too confusing...
Together but separate, like oatmeal
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
July 25 2010 01:05 GMT
#2235
On July 25 2010 10:04 tree.hugger wrote:
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On July 25 2010 10:00 BrownBear wrote:
On July 25 2010 09:58 Pandain wrote:
On July 25 2010 09:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Just wanna go over tricodes posts to find something

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 18 2010 07:56 Tricode wrote:
From that list above i believe it can be a agreed on a majority is saying we should lynch an inactive. Other then that I don't really feel like we have enough information yet to even try to snipe someone....well unless they're is a very stupid mafia member.


On July 18 2010 10:30 Tricode wrote:
##vote abstain

Just doing this if I don't make it tomorrow to vote. My dad is spending his last full day at home before he has to leave for a few months for work.

Other then that, I do suggest we lynch an inactive.

1.if we keep abstaining cause we are always uncertain of what to do, we will never push to killing and finding a mafia member if we went at that rate.

2. That person who is being inactive is probably useless to us anyways just because they are not doing anything to participate.

3. One of the inactive are likely to be mafia just because there is usually one or two guys that are inactive or just post a little bit just so they can stay alive.

Either case, we won't accomplish anything by abstaining, it might even hurt us cause if we keep the option in our head we might use it to much in fear of constantly killing townies/blues and such. So I suggest try keeping abstains as placeholders or if you are truly uncertain in what to do.

Otherwise I encourage and highly suggest that we always use our lynches.

On July 18 2010 10:45 Tricode wrote:
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On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:
On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote:
On July 18 2010 09:59 youngminii wrote:
On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote:
EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen!

Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'.

##Unvote Pyrr
##Vote Abstain

I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no?


On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote:
No-Lynch?

Oh hell no absolutely not.

I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing.

No lynch is a terrible idea.

If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS.


Keep using that reasoning through the whole game. Mind you that there are clever players and mafia will always try to manipulate the game by lying.

Add to the equation everyone's fear of being lynched. Then add the fact we have no clues. Mafia don't have to really say anything. You would have to leave the game to a dt (if they find someone and if they come out) to tell you who is red. Then add the fact if that DT is really a dt.

But like i said, try using your reasoning through out the whole game if we just kept abstaining cause we aren't sure all the time.

On July 21 2010 04:02 Tricode wrote:
Hey just finished catching up, sorry for inactivity had to drop my dad off the airport last night and then went to a relatives house. Also every time i refresh or hit next page, it seems like you guys would just add another page on me!

There was just so much to read!

As for now, I find BrownBear's ideas are unhelpful. Wanting to have our vets reveal themselves. Might be a good plan for other circumstances, but in your one and only example that you gave where your scenario worked, you seemed to have some godly player who was just able to survive for once. That doesn't mean that same scenario can apply here (no offense to you vets).

Also this doesn't take the heat off BrownBear for his posts earlier and inactivity especially how BB voted. It seems like you just analyzed a situation real quick came up with a game plan to throw people off your back. I feel you are a better player then how you are presenting yourself this game and I will be awaiting to see more of your responses before making a vote.

Also a few of you seem to be causing annoying chaos. I would keep an eye on these people. They could possibly be a mafia member who are trying to be active, but just annoying enough to act like a stupid townie and cause confusion. Like DTA (though he could just think acting like this would keep him alive in the game for what ever purposes he has in mind, even just being a townie that just wants to avoid mafia attention).

For w/e reason (I'm desperately looking for a job/Real life shit/ video games) if I am absent for the time being I will vote for BB for how odd he is so far in this game with inactivity, his vote, his suggestion that seems to only distract attention from him, what others have pointed out about him, and I feel he hasn't portrayed himself in this game like he did in the last game I played with him where he had more of a dominate presence that helped the town. My vote will change if there is a better candidate.

##Vote BrownBear

On July 22 2010 12:07 Tricode wrote:
This is pathetic, it took me a whole freaken day just to catch up to all your posts and even then I had to skim through some of them and the crap that you guys filled it up with.

There is just way too much chaos and this game is moving faster then I can keep up.

The only reason I see for killing Darth is because his nonsense is causing more confusion to the game more then others, but there are still others who are causing confusion.

With this madness I am abstaining so I can watch and see what unfolds. Hopefully everyone can start watching and reading to things more carefully instead of cluster fucking the thread with useless information that does not help the case or killing someone for hindrance reasoning.

Though I am believing we are in need of a plan and looking into analyzing what people say more. Though if people like DTA keep their shit up, it will become more difficult to do this cause it is distracting.

Also please people don't just see one little action and instantly call out mafia. Try to watch the person and build up a reasonable case. I am betting a portion of you are just confused and not sure what to do and just voting with the crowd or who ever argues the most aggressively.

For now I am abstaining my vote like i said, for reasons of just wanting to have a bit more solidness of reasoning in who I pick and vote for.

##unvote
##vote abstain



So far he doesn't mention BC once, which I find odd. If he planned on hitting him, it was certainly spur of the moment. Why wouldn't he pick one of the people he mentioned? I also find it weird that he now supports BC :/ sounds fairly wishy washy.

On July 23 2010 16:11 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:07 d3_crescentia wrote:
On July 23 2010 15:52 SiNiquity wrote:
Right. But there's .. *double checks BM's post* 12 townies, 7 blues remaining. So the Vigi revealing gives the Mafia a 6/18 (33.33%) chance instead of 6/19 (31.58%) chance for hitting a "real blue."

But there's gotta be some other catch I'm missing. Or maybe I'm just wary of people roleclaiming in general which is why I'm getting that "vibe" from this plan.

Don't think there's any real reason why mafia would be operating by chance. I feel like they're just trying to snipe blues, or people that would be useful.

If the vigi reveals themselves + target, we can lynch them to confirm this information. Targeting Roffles or Jayme would reduce chances of BC being mafia since the mafia had no way of planning to put in one or two hits. One thing stands in the way of that, and that's BC's abilities to fake it.

If BC himself was targeted by the vigi, then simply by lynching the vigi we can make some clear conclusions about BC. I don't really see the mafia making a fake claim if they know we're going to do this, considering that a 1-1 trade for them isn't very good, though it is possible they'd do this. If the vigi really DID flip blue, then it's harder to say but I believe it would semi-confirm BC.

Am I making sense? I'm not sure I am. It's late.


Yes and now after letting the vigi know you are going to lynch him lol, how do you propose in finding this vig?


soft claims vig?

On July 23 2010 16:24 Tricode wrote:
Meh fine I guess, I will take one for the team.

I was the vig. I was aiming at BC

Reasons:
Who the fuck didn't see it coming from me?

Also to the med who protected BC. I hate you with a true passion.

When you guys do kill me to prove what I am saying, I will be honest, I tried reading this thread but it is hard with flame wars and ridiculous claims and finger pointing.

The person under most of my suspicion is youngminii. From comments he had in the beginning when he seemed afraid that BC was accusing him as being mafia (which BC wasn't). To attacking and finger pointing anyone he had a chance to do so at.

Everyone was scummy for what ever lame reason and he tried to push it hard until he could jump to the next person. He jumped a lot from what I can tell.

Now knowing all of you, you will probably say what I am saying is B.S. and just lynch me.

In which I don't care and go ahead to prove what ever crap you want to believe in. After that I hope you all play well and good luck you will all need it.

If for w/e reason i do live. I will contribute w/e and do w/e to help the town, but to be honest I can't really keep up with how much you guys post. Might be just because of personal issues or something i have going on.

Also everyone should listen to BC keep him alive as long as possible. I trust him and so should you.

You will get your proof of innocence after my death.


OK um wow, he says he thinks youngminii is suspicious, and starts saying he doesnt care if he gets lynched, which kinda makes it either seem like an apathetic towny who failed or a really deep scum trying to get away with being a vig, which in itself is pretty ridiculous. Says to trust BC which seems really fishy. Why is he trusting the person he tried to kill?

On July 23 2010 16:35 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 23 2010 16:29 d3_crescentia wrote:
wait what

that post doesn't even make sense

you aimed at BC but you don't want him to die? why the hell would you do that


Ask fishball, hes done it to me once in the past.


And I would of gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling medic! God way to ruin everything.


Both he and BC play it off like D3 never even accused them of that...

On July 23 2010 16:47 Tricode wrote:
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On July 23 2010 16:38 Protactinium wrote:
Wow... uh... words cannot express how sad I am that my hour and some minutes spent writing that post just went to waste.

Still, read it anyway. I don't think Tricode is lying (though why would you target somebody you want to remain alive?) but just in case...

Good night town.

##Vote: Abstain
##Vote: Double Lynch


You are the only one who has figured me out this whole game.

Though I guess you don't know me, if you read my earlier posts I mention how I only join mafia games in hopes that one day I can kill BC.

Since now I used up my vig, that dream has to remain for another game. Now I am basically a green townie with the vig name.

So since I can't kill him might as well not be a true douche about it. What good would advocating his death and lying do? That would be beyond douchey of me if I did.

Either case, my dream failed.


So you gunned or him because you wanted to, how very untown-like I really dont feel comfortable keeping someone like this around, if there going to put some secret desire to kill someone for fun. And I don't think tricode is some noob player, which is weird.

On July 24 2010 11:04 Tricode wrote:
##vote Abstain

Place holder.

I want to see what everyone says before I place my vote.


On July 24 2010 15:55 Tricode wrote:
BC seems confident about southrawrea and does have good analysis on him. And I would like to lynch mafia this time round.

So

Changing my vote

##unvote youngmini

##Vote: southrawrea


On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
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On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.

On July 25 2010 06:57 Tricode wrote:
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On July 25 2010 06:53 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.



I just defended myself against zeks didn't I D


You just asked Zek "why don't you suspect citizen", that isn't really a reason why not to look at you still. You were just trying to bounce off your FoS to citizen instead of defending yourself and giving valid reasons in why we should trust you over citizen.

Says he agrees with BC, but doesn't change his vote from south to citi, and posts after a little bit. Thats really suspicious in my book when you add everything up.


If a mad hatter gets lynched tonight, I think we need to go after this guy. Hopefully one of them put a bomb on BC, because that would help tremendously in figuring some stuff out. Also hope the DT situation gets resolved very soon...


Tricode has an ndying hatred of BC and always wants to kill him. That is a fact of nature.


Mafia constants:

Chezinu cannot be trusted to say anything useful
Ace and BM share a deep hatred of each other
Flamewheel is adorable
Abenson sucks at mafia
Brownbear will fuck up if you ever give him the medic role (and Korynne will be sad)
Tricode will try to kill BC every chance he gets


Meeple will always protect mafia.
L will try to bandwagon Ace


L will create about 60% of the posts in any game he plays in.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 25 2010 01:05 GMT
#2236
My name is flamewheel, and I am really confused.

Also, apparently I am a kitty!
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 25 2010 01:06 GMT
#2237
On July 25 2010 10:03 zeks wrote:
Whoever thinks that citi.zen did a townie gambit is retarded after tonight


Confused. What does this mean?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 01:06 GMT
#2238
Thank you for your cooperation, see you guys next day. Anyone in particular I should place a bomb on? I've already got a candidate in mind at this time but just for the future...
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
July 25 2010 01:07 GMT
#2239
Ok, we should probably stop. We're creating posts faster than BM can read through them at this point :D
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 25 2010 01:07 GMT
#2240
On July 25 2010 10:05 flamewheel wrote:
My name is flamewheel, and I am really confused.

Also, apparently I am a kitty!


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Cats can be some of the cutest things but every cat is a demon spawned from hell :/
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