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On July 05 2010 16:26 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2010 16:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 05 2010 16:22 Bill Murray wrote:
"Detective
You have the ability to make night investigations. Once per night, starting on Night 2, " He makes no reference anywhere to sanity however  I will be heading to bed soon, but I would strongly suggest people as they wake up to go look at the posts of people who have been semi lurking. With the 4th of july done and canada day done, we should be ignoring all excuses like "sorry social life called" as well, when you commit to a mafia game, you should be able to find some time in a day to play. I am keeping my vote on DCLXVI for now as out of every player in this game so far, he has rarely posted (at least to my memory) and seems to be rather under the radar. I endorse that sentiment. I feel as if he hasn't been doing anything at all. I hope he's our jailkeeper, if we have one, or our coroner, if we have a second one, and lakrismamma wasn't lying.
Or he is the GF or mafia goon. Laying low in this game regardless of role only benefits the mafia. The less information we have to work with on analyzing players behaviour = more ground for red to hide in. We cannot let them do that this game.
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The play you are endorsing in pressuring lurkers leads to roleclaiming, though, when near lynch.
As a result, I do not see why you yourself are not pro-roleclaiming as your play is going towards
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All checks are sane.
If the Godfather is checked by a DT, do you return "Godfather"?
Yes, all DT checks are 100% (minus roleblock).
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Role claiming is extremely effective with small amounts of people. Not when there's 16-17 people and where the DTs are more important than normal games. As BC said, the DTs need to gather some information before claiming.
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By the way, vote Divinek!
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On July 05 2010 16:32 Bill Murray wrote:
The play you are endorsing in pressuring lurkers leads to roleclaiming, though, when near lynch.
As a result, I do not see why you yourself are not pro-roleclaiming as your play is going towards
Role claims aren't provable unless you die and a coroner flips you.
IT can pressure the GF to claim, as well as the reds who are here, but it also gives the ability for mafia to snipe freely as it takes us much longer to prove who is who, and once we have a roleclaimed list, our jailer or jailers have to manage to protect the correct people. It causes alot of headaches for town side as well which is the issue.
Also for DTA for clarification on one of the roles. For whoever got lovers, if Lover A is roleblocked, and B is hit, do both survive, or just Lover A? I am asking based off your OP on questions and making sure you didn't typo it
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On July 05 2010 16:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2010 16:32 Bill Murray wrote:
The play you are endorsing in pressuring lurkers leads to roleclaiming, though, when near lynch.
As a result, I do not see why you yourself are not pro-roleclaiming as your play is going towards Role claims aren't provable unless you die and a coroner flips you. IT can pressure the GF to claim, as well as the reds who are here, but it also gives the ability for mafia to snipe freely as it takes us much longer to prove who is who, and once we have a roleclaimed list, our jailer or jailers have to manage to protect the correct people. It causes alot of headaches for town side as well which is the issue. Also for DTA for clarification on one of the roles. For whoever got lovers, if Lover A is roleblocked, and B is hit, do both survive, or just Lover A? I am asking based off your OP on questions and making sure you didn't typo it
Ah yes... English and its lack of gender neutral singular third person pronouns...
A roleblocked, B hit, only A will survive.
A roleblocked + hit, both will die.
Edited the OP.
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On July 05 2010 16:42 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2010 16:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 05 2010 16:32 Bill Murray wrote:
The play you are endorsing in pressuring lurkers leads to roleclaiming, though, when near lynch.
As a result, I do not see why you yourself are not pro-roleclaiming as your play is going towards Role claims aren't provable unless you die and a coroner flips you. IT can pressure the GF to claim, as well as the reds who are here, but it also gives the ability for mafia to snipe freely as it takes us much longer to prove who is who, and once we have a roleclaimed list, our jailer or jailers have to manage to protect the correct people. It causes alot of headaches for town side as well which is the issue. Also for DTA for clarification on one of the roles. For whoever got lovers, if Lover A is roleblocked, and B is hit, do both survive, or just Lover A? I am asking based off your OP on questions and making sure you didn't typo it Ah yes... English and its lack of gender neutral singular third person pronouns...
A roleblocked, B hit, only A will survive.
A roleblocked + hit, both will die.
Edited the OP.
Drat, there goes that idea.
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if we have roleclaims there will be far less gray area
with our coroner dying we need this
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we can only be sure of the right now in this game
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Convince the town its the best idea for it go through, and with that I head to bed. Ill be back in like 7-8 hours.
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lets not rely on lukewarm plans like korynne's where you have 6% to lynch the godfather every night
lets pressure them into having to roleclaim townie or veteran. if they have the balls to claim veteran, hell, we get 50% likelihood. If all the mafia claim to be green, and we have 5-6 blue claims, then we have around 10 people to lynch out of. That makes it 10% to get the Godfather. If we have an extraordinarily high number of claims (like 3 hatters, lol) then we have 33% chance of hitting scum, and we don't really hurt our town KP.
MUCH better than like 6% and a delay on finding your results every night, having to see your vig ( i know we dont have them, just a for instance) dying, and being demoralized. We need to come together and roleclaim and put pressure on the mafia.
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Just in terms of our lynch it helps, as I have illustrated above, but it can also help keep our DTs alive. The mafia are lurking, so the people who are town (blue roles) who are lurking are OBVIOUS to them.
Make is OBVIOUS to us green players too, so we can help you all put pressure on the mafia using our townie kp (the lynch!). You guys can jail the dts, roleblock big name players who have claimed in a group with an irregular number (like if 5 people claim dt). We need to do this NOW as opposed to later.
Besides our blue roles actively lurking and acting obvious to the mafia (notice how they raped our coroner already), and us not getting our full use out of a coordinated town with ourselves split, we will be able to use innovative and cool strategies with claims. TL doesn't usually have a pro-town roleblocker, the jailkeeper, or w/e. We will be able to see new things with roleclaims. I wouldn't push an idea such as this, but we are fucked if we don't start going balls to the wall. By day 4 we are boned. We need to even vote on double lynch to be honest
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If you think Korynne's plan gave too scum too much power, what are you doing considering mass roleclaim?
Roleclaiming would only give scum complete and utter control of the game. They would know who's who and just pick off the most dangerous. It's uncalled for. Roleclaim in a dire situation such as lylo, not now.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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Don't think it's a good idea, but I'm gonna click that link
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I voted for Bill Murray in the thread as a placeholder vote.
I've still been partying but I've skimmed the thread. I don't know if a Coroner died or not but it doesn't matter - I think mass roleclaim is in order here. Without it, a Godfather gets free recruiting and we don't have the ability to hold people to their actions. If we mass roleclaim we get either Coroner confirmation later in the game or we get conflicted roles.
No info upon death in a cult style game -> mass role claim imo. I'll read more into the game later and offer more ideas.
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that's what i said, ace, thanks for being my yes man here
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On July 05 2010 17:07 youngminii wrote:
If you think Korynne's plan gave too scum too much power, what are you doing considering mass roleclaim?
Roleclaiming would only give scum complete and utter control of the game. They would know who's who and just pick off the most dangerous. It's uncalled for. Roleclaim in a dire situation such as lylo, not now.
yeah, lets wait until all our medics die, and we dont have any tanks... THEN WE'LL STIM
THAT'S SUCH A GOOD IDEA U GUYZ EVEN IF IM NOT PROVIDING ANY EVIDENCE AND CANT COUNTER THE MATH OF LYLO @ DAY4 ZOMG
provide evidence as to why this is bad or a different plan
ace and i are calling for a roleclaim
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