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Greetings everyone! At least this one didn't start on the holiday.
So day 1 lynch. We're in the random voting stage I guess. I don't know most of you guys yet - just what the rumor mill churns up. I'm not about to read 20 games to try to get backstory. I have read a couple though just to get my feet wet.
First, just a note about activity. It's probably fair to expect every individual player to have some threshold of posting else the team should be put under scrutiny for inactivity. If we see particular players going inactive, we should not allow it and hold the team accountable. If one player is quiet and the other player just kind of scrapes by, it's an easy way for mafia to try to duck under the radar or otherwise not provide much info for us to get reads on.
And now for some ideas on where to throw our day 1 lynch:
Seems a bad idea to lynch Radfield since he gets killed night 1 or lynched day 2 (since obv mafia). Though I wouldn't autolynch Radfield on day 2 either because I think Radfield makes an excellent medic target. Lets let the mafia play the guessing game with this one as to whether we have a medic and whether that medic will choose to protect this target.
Since Chezinu seems to love the PM game, he may be easier to read when forced to play an entirely in thread game. So I'd be leaning against lynching him.
I could be swayed to lynch LaXer since as a townie he did hurt the town pretty badly by roleclaiming as a bodyguard. Not much of a reason, but it's the best I've got on a clean slate board. If he's town he can't PM anyone anyhow and Bum would be able to help ensure that if they are medic or DT that they use it effectively. I guess this will be ok.
I know Ace always gets the detective role. Unless I missed it somewhere, roles are not necessarily random (please correct this point if it was stated they would be random somewhere). They may have been assigned 'for entertainment value'. Not something I'd put too much stock into, but I know I'd find it amusing if Ace were DT after posting in my (first) game that he hates DT. So I'm inclined to not pick him for day 1 either.
I'd be against lynching L because the one game I read with him in it where he was a godfather calling for people to roleclaim I thought it was super obvious that he was mafia. Not to say that he's always super obvious about being mafia, but I definitely would rather be trying to read someone that I thought couldn't hide it as well than someone random.
We probably shouldn't lynch teams 7. 8, or 9 on day 1 (unless they are inactive) since we can hold them to a higher threshold of activity. With three players on each team, we should expect them to produce more posts. Since these three teams will be forced to produce more posts, it'll be easier to get mafia reads on them.
I'd like to target a team with an inactive player (surely no entire team will be inactive, right?). If we have every player active, then I guess LaXer would be my vote, but I don't think this will happen. We need to ensure that we don't let a mafia team skate by with an inactive player keeping their team's post count down.
So lets start hearing what people have to say!
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
After a long and arduous conversation with Incognito that involved red, blue, green, coffee, bars, and paranoid schizophrenics, I've decided to change a way night actions and modkills are dealt with. To remove volatility, teams with night actions that experience modkills still have the full use of their night action.
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Something tells me we won't have alot of inactivity this game, and I don't think letting 3 player teams have a safeguard against lynching because they have a much less likely chance of being inactive, but rather that people on tri-teams will get lazy in their posting. Dual-teams are more likely to give better results as they have more weight. But I see what you are saying, I'd just like to not discriminate in that regard.
I think it's fairly silly to also not lynch ace for the sole reason of getting the DT role alot. Roles are random, so he has as much chance as anybody. But I'd rather not lynch competent people either. Mafia will do that for us >
Not really inclined against anybody at the moment, so I'll wait to see what comes out of the woodwork. Not that I'm really expecting much to happen on the first day when there is absolutely nothing but a person's history to go by.
I'm not going to be lynching my own teammate thank you very much.
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chezinu is easier to read because i'm here obviously
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Actually I don't get the DT role that often. I don't really like the role that much because most people are terrible when they get it.
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The reason I give a better pass to the 3 player teams is because if any single player goes inactive, I want to hunt down that team for it. This goes for the tri teams as well - so in a way they are more vulnerable to this kind of scrutiny. If everyone is active, these tri teams will be putting more posts out, so they'll be easier to read.
So my initial pass on them is because they'll either get hunted for inactivity or they'll be churning up more material to read. I think they're in a worse position from the outset, so I'm kind of trying to balance that in my thoughts.
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I think you guys are makign a mistake. Just because a team has two people doesn't mean they will generate more or less content, or that sharing a role means they will act a certain way. I think almost everyone is going to play standard because sharing a role doesn't imply a change in posting behavior.
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putting pressure on a 3 man team would therefore put more pressure on them as it would give us information from 3 people. for that reasoning, considering it is the RV stage, we should probably be more apt to randomly vote for a 3 person team to create 33% more pressure
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just trying very hard to look at it from the perspective of someone who isn't a scummer........ oh chez where are you when i need you
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Hi guys, I just want everyone to know that the lack of PMs will never stop me from privately talking to those I love!
I <3 .-...!
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I can't take the silence, you don't like me when I am in the silence! BILL MURRAY WHY DID YOU HAVE TO GO!!! Who will maintain my sanity! Please someone talk to me!!!
Dear .-...,
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I think I need to stop posting before my other half sees what I have done... Hopefully, he isn't gong to be too mad.. I'm now wondering if Ace is right..
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hey at least that last one didnt break lay out for me
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On June 22 2010 14:24 YellowInk posted:
First, just a note about activity. It's probably fair to expect every individual player to have some threshold of posting else the team should be put under scrutiny for inactivity. If we see particular players going inactive, we should not allow it and hold the team accountable. If one player is quiet and the other player just kind of scrapes by, it's an easy way for mafia to try to duck under the radar or otherwise not provide much info for us to get reads on.
why should players be punished for having terrible teammates? i think it all depends on the types of posts the inactive player teammate makes. if you have a guy who's very inactive/useless and his teammate isn't, we wouldn't want to lose the good player just because his teammate sucks. i dont really understand how mafia can "duck under the radar" if one guy is active and the other isn't. can you elaborate on this?
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YI said:
If one player is quiet and the other player just kind of scrapes by,
So I guess he means if both are somewhat inactive.
Even so, a team with one good player and one inactive should be looked upon as a single good player for a regular game in my opinion. We don't gain anything from lynching the inactive half do we?
Maybe looking at them slightly more suspicious, but not much.
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Btw just pointing out that since flamewheel is running this game the chances of randomly picked roles and setup is 99.99999%.
I only fix publicly available information (teams) for greatest entertainment value. xP
My thoughts on first day lynch:
1. If there is an inactive group, lynch them.
2. If not, lynch the group that is hardest to read, though this is kinda hard to determine, so to speak. I'm sure it doesn't help that I fooled everyone in BM's game that I wasn't mafia. xP
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It appears that Chezinu has voted for me and Radfield, without the requisite
"aka abstaining for now.. because no one else would dare vote for him, right?"
We note that he is mafia that game he voted for Radfield, however this time he just said a bunch of di-dah-di-dits instead of the previous statement.
For the sake of generating some content on day 1, care to clarify this Chezinu? xD
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On June 22 2010 12:35 L wrote:
The following are players I'm not 100% sure about, style and skillwise...
3. LaXerCannon, bumatlarge
5. Durak
7. Zyrre
8. Stormtemplar, BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, Divinek
The rest I know pretty well from reading prior games and such. Since I've got work tomorrow and won't be able to devote 4 hours to readin' stuff, if anyone can write a short summary of these players (if you've played w/ them before) in terms of skill level + playstyle, that would be tits.
Hi! This is my first game of mafia so my skill level is noob. I don't think I have a playstyle yet because I haven't played.
I don't know who you are either but I think it's very suitable that your name is L. You started running the game with the first big post about what we should do as our detective. You seem to be Chill of the mafia forum. :D
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Hmmm... I am trying to decide if Chill would be offended by that statement...
He's really more like Light than L most of the time.
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chezinu why do you need L you have Bill
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