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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 23 2010 20:53 GMT
#401
Rather, I'd like to hear peoples thought on Team 9. Although I want to hear Team 9's thoughts as well
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 23 2010 20:58 GMT
#402
On June 24 2010 05:53 Radfield wrote:
Rather, I'd like to hear peoples thought on Team 9. Although I want to hear Team 9's thoughts as well


Like I said, Team 9 has been skatin' by with crap posts. At least BM/Chez posted a lot of crap posts, and then some decent posts after that.

Hence my vote on that last night. But it failed to do anything, because they only asked me why I was voting for them, they didn't step it up at all.

On June 24 2010 05:52 Radfield wrote:
Quick sidetracking my glorious accusations.

Team 9, I'd like to hear responses.


You should have had it all together then =p. And my analysis on LaXerCannon was legit/serious, minus the sarcasm.



If people weren't actually voting for Team 3, or if bumatlarge's posts didn't look so confusing/bad, my vote would still be on Team 9.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
June 23 2010 21:20 GMT
#403
On June 22 2010 08:24 Zyrre wrote:
And so it begins.
So exciting to see the 1 New PM at the top when you're signed up for a mafia game

What's the purpose of the mafia roleblocker in Setup 2 that flamewheel posted? It seems like he wont be able to block anything.


So, what are the chances that team 7 is the roleblocker?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
June 23 2010 21:22 GMT
#404
Didn't I already respond to that?
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
June 23 2010 21:24 GMT
#405
did you?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
LaXerCannon
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada558 Posts
June 23 2010 21:27 GMT
#406
On June 24 2010 05:42 DarthThienAn wrote:
LaXerCannon

Current and only vote: Team 7
Total posts: 7

Posts:
1. useless
2. useless
3. against voting useless people off (^ go figure), unless it's detrimental to the town (it always is so...) - note that this is a reply to Ace.
Advice to blues: stay unpredictable (no really), don't make yourself a target, but don't get killed for inactivity (meh, not bad).
Advice to DT: Check the teams of three. etc etc false logic + understanding.
4. (shortly after 3) thinks chez wants more activity before he takes action. uhh. pretty useless.
5. useless
6. "Team 7 is inactive" - his vote is cast immediately after this post.
7. useless. But he went to sleep ~ 6 hours ago, I expect him to be online before the day ends.

You'll notice a common theme in my comments about LaXer's 7 posts.

Conclusion: Kid's a genius. We can't afford to lose a player like him. Lynch bumatlarge but keep LaXerCannon imo. I agree 100% with his suspicions, and will back him in any future endeavors.

This should explain my current vote.


Ouch the Sarcasm hurts.

Back from Jazz rehearsal (anyone who's in Toronto should check out the downtown jazz festival on the 28th; it'll be fun!)

Probably my biggest reason for keeping low was because I never had anyone attack me yet and I prefer to stay neutral (as I've said in the previous game, I'm pretty weak at behavioral analysis). I'm hoping to work on it through this game but the amount of crap being thrown from everyone is quite confusing. To add on, it was a mistake for me to think that I could play both mafia games at once and I apologize for it.

I'm not really sure what you want me to say about other people but I guess I'll post my thoughts....

after one question: how do you do multiple quotes in a post aside from manually putting the tags in?
Just keep swimming
LaXerCannon
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada558 Posts
June 23 2010 21:29 GMT
#407
^ actually, I just saw that I died in the other one...already. ^ ^
Just keep swimming
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
June 23 2010 21:29 GMT
#408
On June 24 2010 05:53 Radfield wrote:
Rather, I'd like to hear peoples thought on Team 9. Although I want to hear Team 9's thoughts as well



Well my posts are probably pretty low content cuz im trying to learn this game as i go, since this is my first time playing. I'm pretty busy in life right now so im trying to post when i can and stay above the threshold of inactivity.

I'm obviously not very good on reading yet and it's pretty early on the game so i dont want to target someone with too much conviction unless i have good reasoning, cause i dont want to confuse people etc.

I think based on zyrre's posts my vote for team 7 is a pretty good one based on what has happened so far, but it's hard to say as i dont have histories on any of you and i dont have time to read through the other threads yet.

I think my team mates are also pretty new to the mafia scene? so they're probably trying to lay low and watch what the good players do, at least that's what im doing and at least for the first day i figured it was solid to go with strong arguments others presented + my own reads. Since i might be pretty shit at throwing strong accusations up i wouldnt want to get my team meaninglessly in trouble.

Is that good or were there other specific questions
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
June 23 2010 21:30 GMT
#409
also darth i asked why you voted for us so quickly i want details sir!
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
LaXerCannon
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada558 Posts
June 23 2010 21:33 GMT
#410
On June 24 2010 04:55 Zyrre wrote:
Imo there is about 50/50 that either bum or BM's team is mafia. As it stands I'm keeping my vote on BM for obvious reasons.


Could you explain this more, from you previous posts, you seemed pretty hooked on BM's team because "they were a little off".
Just keep swimming
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
June 23 2010 21:34 GMT
#411
On June 24 2010 06:33 LaXerCannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 04:55 Zyrre wrote:
Imo there is about 50/50 that either bum or BM's team is mafia. As it stands I'm keeping my vote on BM for obvious reasons.


Could you explain this more, from you previous posts, you seemed pretty hooked on BM's team because "they were a little off".

remember he denies that there are two sides...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 23 2010 21:39 GMT
#412
On June 24 2010 06:30 Divinek wrote:
also darth i asked why you voted for us so quickly i want details sir!


I thought I already answered it.

On June 24 2010 05:12 DarthThienAn wrote:
I'm just a pressure cooker. Really, I am.

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]




On June 24 2010 05:27 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 05:25 Radfield wrote:
On June 24 2010 03:14 DCLXVI wrote:
so this is where the votes stand now:
+ Show Spoiler +
Votes for Team 2 (15)
Ace (Team 4)
meeple (Team 7)
BrownBear (Team 8)
johnnyspazz (Team 8)
DCLXVI (Team 9)
Nikon (Team 7)
Zyrre (Team 7)


Votes for Team 3 (6)
YellowInk (Team 5)
Bill Murray (Team 2)


Votes for Team 7 (13)
Chezinu (Team 2)
LaXerCannon (Team 3)
Divinek (Team 9)
Durak (Team 5)
stormtemplar (Team 8)


Votes for Team 8 (6)
L (Team 6)
bumatlarge (Team 3)

Votes for Team 9 (3)
DarthThienAn (Team 4)


Ace has been suspicious of Teams 2 and and less so 6
Stormtemplar has split from his team and voted for team 7, but the rest of team 8 is still on BM/chez
Team 7 is rationally voting for team 2 now since anything else would lose them the vote
my team is split, and I think moocow left the game
New crusade against team 3 by yellow and BM (also known as suicide for BM). Some suspicions presented in the thread.
Now that the anti-inactivity bandwagon against team 7 has ended it would be good to look at who stayed on and who recently joined for what reasons as well as who left for what reasons.
L had some suspicions on team 8 early on, but I have no idea why bum just switched
I think that Darth just wants team 9 to post more.

I can't wait to see who gets lynched, since it will give us some great insight on the rest of the teams. Now that BM has started to post some decent arguments (well at least better than before) I am not sure if hanging him would be the right option. I don't say this because I think that he is less likely to be mafia, I just think that we would get more information out of lynching another team, say team 3 or maybe 8. Bum's recent posting and voting has me confused and a little more suspicious so I'd rather team 3 than 8 get lynched, but I'm not certain.

Time for work, will probably get back in time to change my vote if need be.


Am I the only one who thinks this post screams mafia? Why is Team 9 getting a pass? They are posting just above the threshold of inactivity, right about the level of mafia. They are completely under the radar and not getting involved in any discussions or arguments. Granted at this point MooCow is on the verge of getting modkilled, but that still leaves DCLXVI and Divinek. Neither of them have come out with strong stances, and neither are being particularly helpful to town. I'm going to go through their post history right now to see what I see.

I encourage all players to take a good hard look at team 9.


yo I did that when I went to sleep. But no one did anything so I just went with da flow yo.





On June 24 2010 05:58 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 05:53 Radfield wrote:
Rather, I'd like to hear peoples thought on Team 9. Although I want to hear Team 9's thoughts as well


Like I said, Team 9 has been skatin' by with crap posts. At least BM/Chez posted a lot of crap posts, and then some decent posts after that.

Hence my vote on that last night. But it failed to do anything, because they only asked me why I was voting for them, they didn't step it up at all.

Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 05:52 Radfield wrote:
Quick sidetracking my glorious accusations.

Team 9, I'd like to hear responses.


You should have had it all together then =p. And my analysis on LaXerCannon was legit/serious, minus the sarcasm.



If people weren't actually voting for Team 3, or if bumatlarge's posts didn't look so confusing/bad, my vote would still be on Team 9.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
June 23 2010 21:43 GMT
#413
k i just thought there might be more too it, that's cool
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
June 23 2010 21:47 GMT
#414
I don't know if this is just your playing style, or if you are playing a terrible mafia chenizu.

You switched your vote off my team.
You ask me about something that I've responded to already(if you thought I was mafia, shouldn't you at least read through my posts?).
And then you say this:
remember he denies that there are two sides...

Referring to these posts:
+ Show Spoiler +
BM said several things that didn't make any sense, pointed out by YI.
I will hold off on voting just yet. But that combined with him trying to get YI lynched means that im right now leaning towards him.

So what am I supposed to say if I suspect BM because of what he said (and YI pointed out the flaws) chez?
And, did I say there were only two sides?

You call that denying there are two sides?
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
June 23 2010 21:53 GMT
#415
On June 24 2010 06:47 Zyrre wrote:
I don't know if this is just your playing style, or if you are playing a terrible mafia chenizu.

You switched your vote off my team.
You ask me about something that I've responded to already(if you thought I was mafia, shouldn't you at least read through my posts?).
And then you say this:
Show nested quote +
remember he denies that there are two sides...

Referring to these posts:
+ Show Spoiler +
BM said several things that didn't make any sense, pointed out by YI.
I will hold off on voting just yet. But that combined with him trying to get YI lynched means that im right now leaning towards him.

So what am I supposed to say if I suspect BM because of what he said (and YI pointed out the flaws) chez?
And, did I say there were only two sides?

You call that denying there are two sides?

This is a response that I was looking for. misspelling my name must mean that you didn't give this post much thought, which is good because then it comes out as sincere. Therefore, you are probably innocent or a really good mafia player.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 23 2010 21:54 GMT
#416
On June 24 2010 06:43 Divinek wrote:
k i just thought there might be more too it, that's cool


Well, considering that you have yet to post anything but excuses, perhaps there SHOULD be a little more to it.

Example of excuses:

On June 24 2010 06:29 Divinek wrote:
Well my posts are probably pretty low content cuz im trying to learn this game as i go, since this is my first time playing. I'm pretty busy in life right now so im trying to post when i can and stay above the threshold of inactivity.

I'm obviously not very good on reading yet and it's pretty early on the game so i dont want to target someone with too much conviction unless i have good reasoning, cause i dont want to confuse people etc.


I think based on zyrre's posts my vote for team 7 is a pretty good one based on what has happened so far, but it's hard to say as i dont have histories on any of you and i dont have time to read through the other threads yet.

I think my team mates are also pretty new to the mafia scene? so they're probably trying to lay low and watch what the good players do, at least that's what im doing and at least for the first day i figured it was solid to go with strong arguments others presented + my own reads. Since i might be pretty shit at throwing strong accusations up i wouldnt want to get my team meaninglessly in trouble.

Is that good or were there other specific questions


Note that the majority of that was bolded.

Regarding your teammates, I know for a fact that MooCow had no problem speaking his mind in the last game that flamewheel hosted. Can't speak for Incognito's game because I didn't read it.
DCLXVI is another name I recognize from flamewheel's game. Again, I expect more from him. He is not a noob. He shouldn't be scared of posting something bad. After all, he picked out bumatlarge for a DT check that game, and was right. This kind of indicates that he has some sense of analysis.

Basically what I'm saying is that you're inactivity level is inexcusable - and to me, content/substance is a criteria for activity. Radfield's noticed the same thing - before him, no one else supported me, so I let it slide because bumatlarge seems like a viable lynch target (in that people are voting for him).



20 second tutorial on behavioral analysis:
1) Read someone's post(s).
2) Think about it logically-
--Does it make sense, or no?
--Does it seem like something a mafia player would do, or no?
--Does it have any practical use / does it help the town, or no?
3) Post your conclusions/instinctive impressions about the post(s).
4) Pat yourself on the back and repeat.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 23 2010 21:56 GMT
#417
Radfield I don't know how you can go after team 9 when BM/Chez have played more scummy than they have. Yea they aren't posting a lot but the BM/Chez are posting garbage. Lack of effort doesn't mean someone is scummy. Playing like scum usually means the person really is scum.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 23 2010 21:56 GMT
#418
On June 24 2010 06:53 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 06:47 Zyrre wrote:
I don't know if this is just your playing style, or if you are playing a terrible mafia chenizu.

You switched your vote off my team.
You ask me about something that I've responded to already(if you thought I was mafia, shouldn't you at least read through my posts?).
And then you say this:
remember he denies that there are two sides...

Referring to these posts:
+ Show Spoiler +
BM said several things that didn't make any sense, pointed out by YI.
I will hold off on voting just yet. But that combined with him trying to get YI lynched means that im right now leaning towards him.

So what am I supposed to say if I suspect BM because of what he said (and YI pointed out the flaws) chez?
And, did I say there were only two sides?

You call that denying there are two sides?

This is a response that I was looking for. misspelling my name must mean that you didn't give this post much thought, which is good because then it comes out as sincere. Therefore, you are probably innocent or a really good mafia player.


Dude I care about spelling equally in all of my posts, whether I am mafia, town, or posting in the KPop thread. Especially spelling of someone's name, no one cares - that's not a legitimate reason for your conclusion Chez -_-.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 23 2010 21:58 GMT
#419
Radfield, note that I already called out team 9 on inactivity, but it was 10 hours before close of voting. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131987&currentpage=17#322
This makes it difficult to use voting as a method of pressure. I agree that team 9's posts have been trash. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131987&currentpage=15#296


I had considered shifting to team 9 before going to sleep, but at that point team 9 was no worse than team 7. As you can see, the team 9 analysis is before team 7 picked up their activity - I was posing an alternative location for pressure. I had hoped that would kick team 9 into gear. When it got too late in the day, there was no reason to apply pressure to team 9 since their activities aren't precisely red, they're simply inactive.

I'd be on board with putting the squeeze on team 9 at the start of tomorrow if they havn't shaped up. If BM turns up green I still thing bum would be an excellent target.

Speaking of - since my 'crusade' on bumatlarge does not appear to have been well received, can people post why they don't agree with my analysis? Is it because BM looks to be a better target? Is it because you really think bum is more likely to be green? I'd like to hear responses on this because I feel like my posture is falling on deaf ears. I'd like to hear from anyone who cares about what I have to say. :D

At any rate, it's not something happening today. If BM/Chez flip red, that makes bum look much more green and Team 9 deserves more scrutiny.
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
June 23 2010 22:00 GMT
#420
Yeah, it could also be equally attributed to everyone calling you chez.
Also, as laxer asked, is there an easy way to get multiple quotes in a post? I'm just finding them and adding them manually.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
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