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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 23 2010 22:04 GMT
#421
To yellowink:

<-- I usually procrastinate to the last minute when voting. I like to make sure I take in as much info as possible and a vote switch is always acceptable in my book.

I was pestering Zyrre just now before I decided to switch to team 3.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 23 2010 22:04 GMT
#422
I write my posts in notepad or word to put together multi-quote or spoiler tags. I do this in all forums because many forums 'timeout' if you sit on the page for too long. Also I've lost many posts from changing webpages unintentionally.

So yeah, I add them manually. Just part of my habit.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 23 2010 22:04 GMT
#423
@YI: No it doesn't. That logic does not hold up. Bm/Chez flipping red/green don't have any basis on bum/laxer flipping red/green. There is nothing to compare between the 2 teams.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 23 2010 22:06 GMT
#424
On June 24 2010 07:04 Ace wrote:
@YI: No it doesn't. That logic does not hold up. Bm/Chez flipping red/green don't have any basis on bum/laxer flipping red/green. There is nothing to compare between the 2 teams.

Thats not what ___ says.. What are there two sides? lol, sorry I had to say it.. Ace was setting me up..
lol, clueless in The Prism!
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 23 2010 22:07 GMT
#425
On June 24 2010 06:58 YellowInk wrote:
Radfield, note that I already called out team 9 on inactivity, but it was 10 hours before close of voting. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131987&currentpage=17#322
This makes it difficult to use voting as a method of pressure. I agree that team 9's posts have been trash. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131987&currentpage=15#296


I had considered shifting to team 9 before going to sleep, but at that point team 9 was no worse than team 7. As you can see, the team 9 analysis is before team 7 picked up their activity - I was posing an alternative location for pressure. I had hoped that would kick team 9 into gear. When it got too late in the day, there was no reason to apply pressure to team 9 since their activities aren't precisely red, they're simply inactive.

I'd be on board with putting the squeeze on team 9 at the start of tomorrow if they havn't shaped up. If BM turns up green I still thing bum would be an excellent target.

Speaking of - since my 'crusade' on bumatlarge does not appear to have been well received, can people post why they don't agree with my analysis? Is it because BM looks to be a better target? Is it because you really think bum is more likely to be green? I'd like to hear responses on this because I feel like my posture is falling on deaf ears. I'd like to hear from anyone who cares about what I have to say. :D

At any rate, it's not something happening today. If BM/Chez flip red, that makes bum look much more green and Team 9 deserves more scrutiny.


Yooo. You should have just voted for them back whenever that was. My vote was already there, some 8 hours before your post, and even before that second-linked post of yours.


On June 24 2010 07:00 Zyrre wrote:
Yeah, it could also be equally attributed to everyone calling you chez.
Also, as laxer asked, is there an easy way to get multiple quotes in a post? I'm just finding them and adding them manually.


Quote in a new tab (Shift+click the 'Quote' link), and cut (ctral+A, ctrl+X, ctrl+V) it in manually. Takes like 3 seconds, for real -_-.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 23 2010 22:09 GMT
#426
On June 24 2010 06:56 Ace wrote:
Radfield I don't know how you can go after team 9 when BM/Chez have played more scummy than they have. Yea they aren't posting a lot but the BM/Chez are posting garbage. Lack of effort doesn't mean someone is scummy. Playing like scum usually means the person really is scum.


Well, lets set BM and Chez aside for the moment. I agree that they've posted a lot of spam, but I think both have tried to contribute more this game then in the games I've played with them when they were mafia. That doesn't mean much though, but I can't help it if I get a bit of a townie vibe from them. Of course I agree with your last two sentences.

I am interested to hear your opinion of Team 9 though. Pretend BM and Chez are already dead. Am I off base on thinking they are scum? Are other people scumdars going off when they read their post history?
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 23 2010 22:11 GMT
#427
On June 24 2010 07:09 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 06:56 Ace wrote:
Radfield I don't know how you can go after team 9 when BM/Chez have played more scummy than they have. Yea they aren't posting a lot but the BM/Chez are posting garbage. Lack of effort doesn't mean someone is scummy. Playing like scum usually means the person really is scum.


Well, lets set BM and Chez aside for the moment. I agree that they've posted a lot of spam, but I think both have tried to contribute more this game then in the games I've played with them when they were mafia. That doesn't mean much though, but I can't help it if I get a bit of a townie vibe from them. Of course I agree with your last two sentences.

I am interested to hear your opinion of Team 9 though. Pretend BM and Chez are already dead. Am I off base on thinking they are scum? Are other people scumdars going off when they read their post history?


I can't say the scumdar applies because it's not set to the the 'actively scan' setting.

If we're only looking at what we have, then yes, they are more scummy than innocent.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 23 2010 22:12 GMT
#428
@DTA I know your vote was there on team 9 at the 10 hr mark, but I didn't think it'd be enough time to force activity out of them. Team 3 reading red was more useful than what would have merely been a pressure vote on Team 9. I didn't shift from team 7 to team 9 at the ~18 hour mark (when I made the analysis post) because they were both inactive teams. Neither was better than the other, I was merely presenting a commentary on how there were two teams that needed to clean up their acts.

I'm going to try to refrain from repeating myself now, perhaps linking to prior posts with answers to questions/statements made in my direction.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 23 2010 22:14 GMT
#429
On June 24 2010 07:09 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 06:56 Ace wrote:
Radfield I don't know how you can go after team 9 when BM/Chez have played more scummy than they have. Yea they aren't posting a lot but the BM/Chez are posting garbage. Lack of effort doesn't mean someone is scummy. Playing like scum usually means the person really is scum.


Well, lets set BM and Chez aside for the moment. I agree that they've posted a lot of spam, but I think both have tried to contribute more this game then in the games I've played with them when they were mafia. That doesn't mean much though, but I can't help it if I get a bit of a townie vibe from them. Of course I agree with your last two sentences.

I am interested to hear your opinion of Team 9 though. Pretend BM and Chez are already dead. Am I off base on thinking they are scum? Are other people scumdars going off when they read their post history?


I actually get clueless newbie vibes from Team 9. In fact they are like a clone of Team 7 just less aggressive when confronted so far. I think they really are just not going to post a lot until at he point of damn near inevitable lynch.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 23 2010 22:19 GMT
#430
On June 24 2010 07:12 YellowInk wrote:
@DTA I know your vote was there on team 9 at the 10 hr mark, but I didn't think it'd be enough time to force activity out of them. Team 3 reading red was more useful than what would have merely been a pressure vote on Team 9. I didn't shift from team 7 to team 9 at the ~18 hour mark (when I made the analysis post) because they were both inactive teams. Neither was better than the other, I was merely presenting a commentary on how there were two teams that needed to clean up their acts.

I'm going to try to refrain from repeating myself now, perhaps linking to prior posts with answers to questions/statements made in my direction.



I think we have a very different idea of how long it takes to rally votes on a player. Honestly, we still have ~4hours till lynch, which in my mind is almost enough time to do a major vote switch if there is a convincing argument. 10 hours is certainly enough time.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 23 2010 22:20 GMT
#431
oops, meant to post this here, sorry flame!

Votes for Team 2 (13)
Ace
meeple
BrownBear
johnnyspazz
DCLXVI
Nikon

Votes for Team 3 (13)
YellowInk
DarthThienAn
Zyrre
Durak
Chezinu

Votes for Team 7 (13)
Bill Murray
LaXerCannon
bumatlarge
Divinek
stormtemplar

Votes for Team 8 (3)
L

Votes for Team 9 (6)
Radfield
Korynne

Ok, I think this is the vote count so far. I might have made a mistake with the numbers, I'm not sure.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 23 2010 22:24 GMT
#432
Wow is that close, certainly means that there's plenty of time for vote switching. We could easily still lynch Team 9 if people wanted to ; )

Seems like Me and K might have the power here if we decide to switch.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
June 23 2010 22:26 GMT
#433
On June 24 2010 06:58 YellowInk wrote:
Radfield, note that I already called out team 9 on inactivity, but it was 10 hours before close of voting. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131987&currentpage=17#322
This makes it difficult to use voting as a method of pressure. I agree that team 9's posts have been trash. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131987&currentpage=15#296


I had considered shifting to team 9 before going to sleep, but at that point team 9 was no worse than team 7. As you can see, the team 9 analysis is before team 7 picked up their activity - I was posing an alternative location for pressure. I had hoped that would kick team 9 into gear. When it got too late in the day, there was no reason to apply pressure to team 9 since their activities aren't precisely red, they're simply inactive.

I'd be on board with putting the squeeze on team 9 at the start of tomorrow if they havn't shaped up. If BM turns up green I still thing bum would be an excellent target.

Speaking of - since my 'crusade' on bumatlarge does not appear to have been well received, can people post why they don't agree with my analysis? Is it because BM looks to be a better target? Is it because you really think bum is more likely to be green? I'd like to hear responses on this because I feel like my posture is falling on deaf ears. I'd like to hear from anyone who cares about what I have to say. :D

At any rate, it's not something happening today. If BM/Chez flip red, that makes bum look much more green and Team 9 deserves more scrutiny.


hm well since you asked i went through his posting history and i must say about 80% of it is complete crap and spam, what little content i thought would be of importance that i got were these bits


Sorry yellow but your looking pretty viable for a first lynch as of now...


These half hearted posts always seem like scum to me, it may be an inaccurate read but it's just kind of one of those 'i dont want to commit' things in order to fuel other people into going 'hey he's right lets get him!'

And after saying that he didnt really analyze any further just left that word and was like k good for me, which doesnt make much sense at all if you really think someone should be lynced


This seems to have escalated above us yellow, lets go into a hidey-hole and wait for the whole thing to blow over


not much on this one cause you could metagame yourself on it but obviously a good towny would be analyzing people and not advocating hiding, and i think the purpose for this post was if he continued posting crap like he has or not at all he can be like well i already said i was going to hide or something


Stick it to the man! Not voting for this bad-ass thats for sure


Another thing that didnt really contribute at all, but maybe looks like a red subtly protecting another red? Cause it seemed like he for sure was taking some heat at the time of this post, but even this would look wayyy too bad if he flipped red so he'd have to be a pretty terrible red to say this if it was the case


If I may say so, it was very incriminating


Again, no real analysis just, oh i think you're bad but im not gonna vote kind of thing. Fanning flames but not backing it up with any vote/analysis. Very weak and trying to stay under the radar


If I make it to day 4, I swear to god I will start the bandwagon on myself, and anyone who doesn't vote for me is mafia


the old reverse mind game, why vote for me when im gonna kill myself anyways kind of thing. At that stage it could obviously be too late

Also based on the posts he seems VERY sure there's a DT on this game so im starting to think he's almost certainly not green, but his posts have still been so empty i cant rest on red/blue

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
June 23 2010 22:34 GMT
#434
also moocow said he cant play anymore so that's why he hasnt posted like at all
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
June 23 2010 22:34 GMT
#435
On June 24 2010 07:20 Chezinu wrote:
oops, meant to post this here, sorry flame!

Votes for Team 2 (13)
Ace
meeple
BrownBear
johnnyspazz
DCLXVI
Nikon

Votes for Team 3 (13)
YellowInk
DarthThienAn
Zyrre
Durak
Chezinu

Votes for Team 7 (13)
Bill Murray
LaXerCannon
bumatlarge
Divinek
stormtemplar

Votes for Team 8 (3)
L

Votes for Team 9 (6)
Radfield
Korynne

Ok, I think this is the vote count so far. I might have made a mistake with the numbers, I'm not sure.


I voted for team 8, but I guess I'm forced to put it on 2 to stay alive.

Pretty bummed out that you guys are jumping on laxer and I, but I guess it can't be helped if you really do get red vibes from us. I told Laxer it might be better for him to lie low for a bit, rather then what he was doing last game, and I tried to be a bit more active through my phone, but that just developed misconstrued fragments of what I was thinking while at work. After seeing Chez and BM make so many pointless posts, I got comfortable and started making useless comments. I meant the hidey-hole thing as a joke to yellow, but of course he took it in the worst and most serious way possible.

Can you be more decisive with your end vote please? Id rather like to divine information ive been keeping if we do get lynched. Honestly it seems like I got off on the wrong foot trying to start off the day by commenting on YI's first post and giving thoughts on what Blue's and such should do in time to come. I'm fairly certain I didn't say anything definite. It's kind of unlike me to get so mellow but Im not really worried, as long as the town takes the right roads after.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
June 23 2010 22:40 GMT
#436
Now you can switch your vote off me and onto team 9 and I will follow.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 23 2010 22:43 GMT
#437
i will put it wherever too
lets not put it on me
i am town
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 23 2010 22:49 GMT
#438
So no one else has a problem with blatant vote manipulation plans?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 23 2010 22:49 GMT
#439
well considering we are town i would assume the town should back us up
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 23 2010 22:50 GMT
#440
i am amazed you have your vote where it is from the RANDOM VOTING STAGE ace, you kidding?
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