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If only we had 25 players, then mass name claiming would own. Maybe we still should unless mafia were given a safe name to name claim as. Given the setup, I'm not going to be running for mayor. Never have been confident in my ability to lead. New players should not be running unless they know they are qualified to run. YellowInk, I nominate you since you were theorycrafting ways to break the game, I bet you have a great idea that helps the town. | ||
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On June 21 2010 07:44 Bill Murray wrote: To clear up some things: i'll make a thread for mayoral voting you may nameclaim or roleclaim just don't claim masons or I will modkill you keep it clean, please Also, it would be great to track and watch the mayor but Tracker and Watcher aren't listed as possible roles so I doubt they are in this game. | ||
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On June 21 2010 15:00 stormtemplar wrote: Well this is my first mafia so I am uber exited. So I guess this is the part where we kinda sit around and wait for the mafia/death eaters to kill someone. I have no opinion on the name claim thing, as I'm kinda not sure. no, we make the first move by voting for a mayor. | ||
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On June 22 2010 08:03 Hesmyrr wrote:\ Btw, johnnyspazz, that could somewhat be interpreted as buddying, nor I wonder the wiseness of nominating currently afk player just because of his willingness to break the setup, especially when 25-player setup and 20-player setup is fundamentally different. I'm not really sure what you mean by this, I thought YellowInk would have a plan since he was already thinking of ways to make the game easier for town before it even started. I had no idea he was going to be afk. | ||
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On June 22 2010 08:56 Amber[LighT] wrote: Right now there are a lot of spells that can be used, and a bunch of spells mixed with roles that can really mess everything up. If I'm reading the rules right the mayor/pardoner positions are actually not as safe as one would hope. If the bus driver is in fact a DE role then that could cause trouble for us (If I am elected I could be swapped with another player and the DE could target the other player, thus killing me without going through any bodyguards.) It's true that bodyguards are a little less useful thanks to Bus Drivers, but I remember that mafia aligned Drivers can't exactly communicated with the mafia team. I think your hypothetical situation will never happen in this setup if the Driver can't communicate with other mafia. I think mayor/pardoner is a lot safer than you think. We also have to remember we have both Bodyguards and Aurors. I don't think mafia would ever risk attacking mayor/pardoner since it's 50/50 if they get protected and mafia's identity is revealed. Do you think it's better to have blues or greens as elected officials? I would prefer power roles elected. | ||
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On June 22 2010 11:09 zeks wrote: 1. We'll see what kind of names the mafia claim. 2. They might mess up and overlap 3. Timing of the roleclaims I wasn't hoping to answer your question, but I figured the mafia would figure that out eventually so no harm done by telling you. Since BM is letting us name claim, I highly doubt there will be any double name claims. I think it would make this game way too easy for town. | ||
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On June 22 2010 11:44 Jugan wrote: Isn't running for minister of magic risky? It says your character must be 18 or over, and so it could possibly narrow down on list of people you could be... BM changed the rules before the game started. | ||
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On June 22 2010 12:04 Jugan wrote: Oh we should vote me for mayor then :D lol... | ||
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On June 22 2010 17:26 lakrismamma wrote: Where did you read that the busdriver cant comunicate with mafia? I could only find "The bus driver can be mafia, town, or 3rd party." I think you are right about the Minister is to well protected to attack though. Also since it is getting closer to election and someones gotta be first im going to vote for Amber[LighT] he has the clearest (only?) plan so far and seems like a good leader. PM's aren't allowed unless your role says you can. I'm hoping that Bus Driver's can't PM. Even if they could, they aren't given the list of who is mafia so they have to find one. This is a very difficult task which I doubt if there is a mafia bus driver this game, he or she will succeed. | ||
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ill try to make my vote reflect that | ||
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sorry yellowink | ||
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if anyone has important night action things to share with the thread, think before you post. | ||
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On June 24 2010 11:01 Abenson wrote: I would have to agree with johnny on that the 3rd party could be a serial killer. After carefully reading through the whole first post in the game, I realized that there are absolutely no clues telling us how many DE there are. In a 21 people game, 4 DE might be a viable setup. Therefore I think that we should not immediately assume how it amounted to 3 deaths in the few days. Anyways, here are the possibilities I see: 1) Serial Killer killed someone 2) A random night Vig killed (unlikely, vig rarely kills on night 1 because of the risk of killing someone important on your side) 3) DE has 2 KP sorry to be kinda mean to you abenson but you just regurgitate info to make it look like you have something useful to say also bm said they are only 4 DE | ||
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On June 24 2010 13:19 Subversion wrote: Also, couple of potentially noob questions (I'm new, forgive me): 1. Do we know if the person killed, Madame Pomfrey, was a Medic (i.e. has the spell Episky) or a Bodyguard? It would seem to me that her being the spellcaster would be more in line with book, but I'd just like to know if we're sure of this? 2. Could someone explain the concept of a "night vigilante"? I don't see them in the role list in the OP. Is this one, town-aligned person who is allowed to kill? Do they get 1 kill, or multiple? Are we certain this game has one? 1. 99% sure Mdame Promfrey was a medic and not a bodyguard. 2. Night vigilante is basically just a town-aligned player who has the ability to kill someone at night. Usually only mafia have the ability to kill someone at night and night vigilante would be the town exception. Most of the time, it's a one time use ability. Now I'm 80% sure it was a third party serial killer who killed the auror. | ||
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On June 25 2010 08:47 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: On the other hand, when it was looking very close at the end of the voting, johnnyspazz did not change his vote from amber to YI -- this doesn't really add up in either the case he's mafia supporting the mafioso YI or if he's townie, so I'm rather confused by that. Care to explain, johnnyspazz? okay, so first amber[light] halfheartedly suggests a plan with mass roleclaiming. from this, i get a blue vibe from him. with his previous posts in the game, this makes him seem more blue than red to me. that's when i start thinking, this guy might be a good candidate for MoM. then he decided to nominate radfield as his running buddy so that they would both get the elected positions. this seemed a little suspicious to me. then he posts this gem: On June 22 2010 21:13 Amber[LighT] wrote: Even if radfield is going to be inactive I can communicate with him regularly. If and when we need to pardon we will use him. I'm going out on a limb here to stress that I will probably be the best person for the position. I am also asking the detective to IMMEDIATELY check me. WHAT A UNFORTUNATE MISTAKE! then he tries to save himself here: this heavily implicates that he and rad are scum buddies but i think they are masons and amber has some other ability. at this point, i'm okay with getting amber as MoM because if anything fishy goes on, then we lynch him. the only problem i have is radfield has pardoner. i think red in MoM position is ok but red in pardoner position is bad. in the offchance that amber and radfield are red, atleast they won't have the ability to pardon amber when things get bad. i wanted amber as MoM and YI as pardoner but unfortunately with the votes at the time, it was impossible. if i had switched my vote to YI, then radfield gets MoM and amber gets pardoner. i would rather have amber get the bodyguard protection since i trust him more than radfield. any more questions A5J? On June 25 2010 08:47 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: this should be 100% town read I'm about 50/50 on him, no read either way as of yet. | ||
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On June 25 2010 10:59 Amber[LighT] wrote: So the following players should have been blocked: Myself Radfield Any other candidates what do you mean by this? also i don't like your habit of opening posts with an excuse for inactivity, seems odd to me. | ||
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i don't remember any plan to block you and radfield. can you please point to the post where this is stated? i must've missed it. | ||
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well mister MINISTER OF MAGIC, i believe it's time to get your super duper awesome plan going? | ||
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the likely hood of lakrismamma flipping red is slim to none in my opinion. obviously we can all point fingers at bad players and lynch them for the "benefit" of the town but he doesn't seem red to me. he just seems like an awful green. there's no way in hell people can point to him and say DEFINITE SCUM! i think the people pushing for his lynch are definitely sketchy to me. | ||
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On June 26 2010 01:36 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: jspazz i don't think modkills are happening this game unless BM has changed his mind. He would instead be substituted with another player like subversion was replaced with thegilaboy. I agree the chance of him being mafia is slim though. who else do you think we should consider? i would much rather lynch abenson than lakrismamma but maybe we should look at jeejee. i'm used jeejee posting a lot more than he is posting now. the change in play style is odd. JeeJee Jugan Stormtemplar Ludwig Abenson lakrismamma basically everyone from this list needs to say something or they should all die | ||
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i wouldn't mind lynching yellowink though. i do not like lynching inactives to find scum. it might be a necessity but it's so god damn random. i believe DE definitely put someone forward for election. amber trusts radfield to some extent so many they are both blue? we need the leaders to lead. imo radfield seems more red than YI. | ||
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On June 27 2010 11:44 YellowInk wrote: Well I guess that depends on the definition of the PGO role which our mod is choosing not to provide to us. Also, even assuming the rest of it, medic could be protecting DT, DT investigates Hes, medic covers DT, HWMNBN hits PGO, assuming PGO has infi shots we still have medic outing DT and medic for no gain. For one example. i seriously doubt this hypothetical situation happened and that's the real reason you don't want the medic to revealed who he protected... i have a different theory, the simplest explanation for why PGO didn't kill anyone was because a medic protected scum and you don't want the medic to reveal who it is because he is your teammate. | ||
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INACTIVITY IS RAMPANT AMBER LIGHT IS OUR MAYOR RADFIELD IS OUR PARDONER SO FAR THEY HAVEN'T DONE THEIR JOB PARANOID GUN OWNER DIED BUT NO DEATH EATER DIED why do you think this happened? | ||
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you are so cute | ||
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I EVEN BREADCRUMBED MY NAME IN THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME IF I DIED CAUSE OF SOME RETARDED WHIM god damn opz you retard how can you think im not green | ||
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I am town aligned as has been vouched for by jspazz. wait what the FUCK? when did i say this??????? | ||
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i only nominated him in the beginning of the game for MoM. | ||
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On June 29 2010 10:47 YellowInk wrote: I'll keep this short. The facts: I am town aligned as has been vouched for by jspazz. A hit on me was blocked. I was covered by someone who believes I am town. My action was not roleblocked. Thus this implies: Amber[Light] is either lying or perhaps some bus driving occurred. Please read carefully the bus driver role - it switches the abilities between two targets - it is not based on the caster. So if someone did a bus drive on me with any other person, it would have swapped the hit, the role block, and the episky all to someone else. Well obviously that didn't happen. Amber[Light] did not target me with a role block. Amber[Light]'s voting has been suspect throughout - I'll let someone else elaborate on this as I'm a bit short on time at the moment to do the digging require to display. If no one gets to it, I'll put something together in four hours or so. Time to lynch Amber[Light]. you couldn't have been hit by anything if you weren't roleblocked. if a busdriver did indeed bus you, then someone else would've taken your hit and your roleblock. | ||
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On June 29 2010 12:45 YellowInk wrote: I would just like to say that there's something someone could say right now that is not a roleclaim in any way shape or form that would convince me you're a townie. I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened yet. Are we going to let Amber[Light]'s lie stand or lynch? wait are you talking about me? even i don't know what you're talking about. | ||
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On June 29 2010 09:18 Abenson wrote: yay, this must be a new record. YellowInk casts protego on himself is this what abenson got from BM in a PM? | ||
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On June 29 2010 13:25 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Don't forget, guys, that abenson could be full of shit with that PM. It's not exactly hard to fake that. Amber, we are eagerly awaiting your explanation. Are you going to claim you got bussed? i dont even think getting bussed is a valid excuse for amber. ooo boy he has a lot of explaining to do. if he flips red, then we lynch radfield next. | ||
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@~OpZ~ no i'm just some retarded useless townie with no abilities...bs imo | ||
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On June 30 2010 03:55 JeeJee wrote: also since when did bodyguards affect daykills? but your game i suppose don't bodyguards affect everything except lynches? | ||
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On June 29 2010 21:21 Amber[LighT] wrote: whoa whoa whoa... First off sorry I sleep at night.. Second off YellowInk you can sit here and pull the wool over everyone's eyes, but this powerplay won't work, and I'm not about to let it. 3 people just got killed so the town is really going to suffer. You think that lynching ME is a good idea? I've been pro-town the whole game. I made my votes according to what was provided in the thread, nothing more. I told people how they should use their DT/Med/RB powers for each of the night phases, yah I kinda effed up on night one, but we picked up a better strategy come day 2. I'm not going to post my PM's with BM because that's suicide, but like I said in a previous post I am a role blocker. N1: Radfield N2: Random (I didn't get to send in a block in time) N2: YellowInk The only reason BM hasn't come in to correct a possible mistake is that you were clearly protected by another DE last night. I know what I did. You want an explanation about my role? Well you're not about to get that much info that easily, but I'll clue you in: I am a pro-town role. I can cast Expelliarmus EVERY NIGHT, my choice or random if I forget to send one out. Do you guys really think it would be logical for me to come forward and say that I role blocked someone who should have died when they casted a spell on themselves? I know what I did and aside from sending the PM to you guys to get killed by the mod I don't know what else you could want. YellowInk this was a clever ploy to get the town to take down the MoM, and with this play the town will be doomed. OpZ, Elyas, Roffles, be logical in this decision. Would I really come forward to protect ABENSON, a person I have personally been gunning for since DAY 1, if I didn't have valuable information? here's the problem, someone else didn't protect yellowink, HE protected himself from abenson's hit. therefore you definitely did not roleblock him and i doubt anyone is immune to roleblock in this game. | ||
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amber can you explain your relationship with radfield? how do you guys communicate? is he voldemort? | ||
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On June 30 2010 04:37 ~OpZ~ wrote: STOP MOVING THE DISCUSSION ELSEWHERE JohnnySpazz is? Ginny Weasely AmberLight is? Harry Potter Gila is Filius Flitwick DOES ANYONE Else feel like claiming? wait you got filius flitwick from his exchange with jeejee? | ||
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On June 30 2010 04:39 ~OpZ~ wrote to YellowInk: So you are medic? Who are you? sorry for bumping this away | ||
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anyone object to this? | ||
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isnt he a retard | ||
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GO DUMBLEDORE'S ARMY | ||
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On July 03 2010 05:41 JeeJee wrote: what i don't get is why they would kill hermione of all people surely they would have been killing DTs unless we're on completely the wrong track and they're enjoying it clearly we must AK one of our confirmed townies right now any volunteers? radfield or korynne imo | ||
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On July 03 2010 03:31 JeeJee wrote: opz and i run a jokeshop anyway, i checked yink; i have no freaking clue what the clue means but i think it refers to neville's grandma upbringing (since his parents went cuckoo): babied over as a baby by an elderly lady. so here are my assumptions -this game has a harry potter who is on the town's side -there is no evil character that wears tiny bowties and nervously awaits dates. opz and i decided it was flitwick, and we wanted to see if gila matched up to it -- short of gila going through every character's birthday and trying it on my crypt within 2/5 minutes (see timestamps), he seems to be flitwick. he couldn't have known what clue we saw, and could have guessed some other character. i mean, does flitwick have an evil twin? idk -bill didn't lie to me about opz's alignment then we have the following townies amber (if this guy's de, there's no harry potter, then this game makes no sense) opz (if this guy's de, bill lied to me about his alignment so this game makes no sense) myself (if this guy's de, bill lied to me about his alignment so this game makes no sense) yink (if this guy's de, then there's a DE babied over by an elderly lady? idk) tga (if this guy's de, there's a DE that wears tiny bowties and is nervous of going on a date) this leaves roffles, rad, jspazz scrimmy checked yink but he could just be a de with investigative powers (another one? idk) i dont know what ginny weasly did, jspazz could be de too and aberforth is kind of a random claim but is he like a bus? or a stump? dunnooo this sums up all the cluechecks, jeejee is right on the money. the only people that haven't been checked are me, roffles, and rad right? i know i'm not the DE and i also breadcrumbed ginny right off the bat. if you're town, then i should also be town due to gilaboy's checks unless you think i'm the godfather. after this lynch, you guys need to check us. i'm already partially clear due to gilaboy. | ||
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i guess ill retract my vote on radfield for now | ||
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but if i flip green, then you guys need to check amberlight because he's the only one that hasn't been checked. just because he claimed harry potter doesn't mean jack shit. so far this game is already crazy and theres a chance bm didn't include harry in the game. | ||
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On July 04 2010 03:58 YellowInk wrote: I can't find a way for Radfield's investigation to matter. check amber[light] | ||
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On July 04 2010 03:22 ~OpZ~ wrote: I'm down with spazz for pretty much the same reason....And the fact that he claims he has no role, in a game where so far I think everyone has had a role? then i guess BM just has a sick sense of humor... i have a even better suggestion, why don't you guys AK me so you can actually get a useful lynch | ||
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if the town really wants to lynch me, i'll go ahead and vote for myself. | ||
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