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MooCow
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I'll join if you guys still have a spot. | ||
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On June 10 2010 06:50 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Sup bitches! MooCow hope you're not bitter <3 Haha i'm not. Looking at the above posts so far I hope this game has lots of lols. | ||
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I was trying to be funny. I laughed at the thought of it. ^^~ | ||
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On June 10 2010 08:14 Vivi57 wrote: This should be fun. Also, is lynching an inactive really best? We've done that since forever and people are so used to the strategy that I don't think it'll give us as much in the way of vote lists and voting patterns to analyze. I say that we make everyone talk then analyze behavior and if someone appears scummy, we shouldn't insta go for the inactive. Lynching inactive people does this, it forces people to talk unless they want to be lynched. If someone appears to be scummy then of course we should lynch them but how do we get people to appear to be scummy? By forcing them to talk. How do we get people to talk? By lynching the people that don't talk/are inactive. | ||
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MooCow
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And plans involving DT's etc, aren't DT's a bit useless in this game? From Incognitos post below there's only a 25% chance we actually get a DT that's not going to give us wrong information. Ex If we get an actual DT claiming someone is scum and we lynch them and they flip townie, then of course we are going to lynch the DT that told us that information. So the DT is useless because he was a Paranoid DT. So whoever has a DT role should probably keep their info to themselves until they know which sanity level they are at. On June 09 2010 13:29 Incognito wrote: PMing is allowed this game. Sane DT - is like a regular alignment cop. Insane DT - alignment cop that gets flipped results Paranoid DT - Always receives Mafia from checks Naive DT - Always receives Town from checks Medic variants removed. | ||
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If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet. I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much. | ||
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MooCow
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On June 12 2010 02:40 flamewheel wrote: So as many would have thought, we've ended up with a lot of people claiming green, myself amongst them. As citi.zen said, most likely there will be mafia hiding in this crowd, since we've only had two... wait a minute. Hmm, MooCow and LuDwig-... So we have two people claiming Detective. This is going to take some thought, since we also have a Tracker claim--meaning that there'd be a very minimal chance of there being two DTs. So obviously, one of them is lying. ...To PM land we go! Oh also MooCow I'm not sure how you could have expected LuDwig- to "screw up" on Day 1 seeing as very little to mess up on. Yea there wasn't really that much to look out for but I thought a mafia would be likely to try an claim a blue role as soon as possible, which he did. When Chezinu fake shot him, his reaction was funny and I just have a gut feeling he isn't blue/townie unless there happens to be 2 detectives which everyone is saying there is a low chance of that being. | ||
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MooCow
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I guess that is fair but it seemed like he tried to role claim so quick. I might be wrong but detectives just don't see that strong in this game. There's a 50% chance i'll be completely useless. i.e. Paranoid/Naive. But if anything does happen to me I think it's safe to say you guys can try lynching LuDwig the next day. | ||
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On June 12 2010 03:13 johnnyspazz wrote: do you know if you're roleblocked or not? cause if the tracker follows the roleblocker and the person who is blocked knows he's roleblocked, then the roleblocker just revealed himself. Yea the person you roleblocked will be informed that they were roleblocked. I'm a bit fearful for my life now that i'm in the open like this so i'm going to ask if there are any kind medics around. No offence to you LuDwig but is anyone else reading LuDwig posts with a bit of an Italian accent with his grammar and wordings or is it just me?  | ||
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MooCow
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Ludwig (Detective) tree.hugger(Tracker) MooCow(Detective) Radfield Ohn johnnyspazz AcrossFiveJulys RebirthOfLeGenD L Flamewheel redtooth Vivi57 Foolishness ~Opz~ cit.izen Still have meeple and Chezinu left to role claim. As a DT I would have no problem doing any of the mentioned things to help the town but as flamewheel mentioned there's a lot of problems with DT's in terms of their sanity and trying to find it out. I said this in an earlier post but with all the drawbacks of being a DT ( sanity ) I'd have no problem if mafia killed me and you guys somehow manage to figure out who did it. That'd be great for town. I'll vote later because i'll be around before the time's up but currently Jspazz has the highest due to inactivity. @LuDwig It's easy to understand and it's not poor at all. I was just saying that I think of an Italian accent when you do mess up.  | ||
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So LuDwig claims he had a long PM discussion with Meeple. He said meeple was helpful and stuff and he's not suspicious of him. He also claims that meeple said he was a townie I believe LuDwig. From Flamewheel posts I understand that "Meeple is always around". Which means he's probably played a few games before. What i'm thinking is could meeple be taking advantage of LuDwig because imo from this POST. LuDwig comes off as a new player to the game. I am too ( only my 2nd mafia game and I died near the start of my first. ) Also since meeple messaged LuDwig after LuDwig roleclaimed, why didn't meeple come out and also roleclaim his townie role like everyone else? I'm not sure if meeple is a really kind helpful guy like AFJ or what not but I just thought i'd point this out. | ||
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I only gave my thoughts about you because of what LuDwig said and you have to admit it was a bit suspicious. Voting for Jspazz though due to inactivity and him voting someone then saying he wont be here to change if needed etc. | ||
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MooCow
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If no one has anyone specific I think i'll just check the 2nd person with the most votes for lynching. Also remember the sanity thing. Insane, Sane, Paranoid and Naive. | ||
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On June 12 2010 10:21 ohN wrote: damn. Sounds decent. blues should post who they're watching and chezinu should rc imo. I'm investigating meeple because he was 2nd highest on the votes for being lynched and no one else recommended any other candidates. | ||
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On June 12 2010 11:26 meeple wrote: If one of our dt's checks come back red... do we act? How likely is he paranoid? How likely is he's really mafia and just pretending to be paranoid? I'll wait for the town to decide whoever they want checked out. I just threw my idea out there because no one else had any. If I were mafia I wouldn't of risked myself by coming out and saying i'm the 2ND DT in the game with everyone believing that there is only 1 DT in the first place. I welcome any watcher/tracker. Well there's a 50% chance i'm completely useless in terms of checking people out and on top of that making people believe I am protown. | ||
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While having the watchers and trackers on us and our targets? Then we can try and work something out with the information we get. I know there's a lot of drawbacks to this method but it's just a suggestion for the time being. | ||
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On June 13 2010 02:25 meeple wrote: It was a question to make people think and discuss... if they're both checking the same person (me?) then we can see which detective to trust and kinda follow their lead. I think we should check on someone that we want to lynch to help find out the sanity level of the DTs. So we should decide on someone soon because the night is almost over. ACTIVITY?! | ||
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On June 13 2010 02:50 meeple wrote: The problem with checking someone that we want to lynch... is that they might turn up red and while that would bag up some red it also wouldn't tell us anything about the sanity of the cops. Eh?! Getting a red like that is totally worth not knowing the sanity level of the DT's imo. Besides it only slows the us down by a bit if we don't know the DT sanity level but it's a huge gain getting a mafia. What do you guys think of Chez? If he is going to get mod killed from inactivity we can experiment on him. I hope not though because he seems like a fun mafia guy to play with. | ||
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Is it just LuDwig throwing in his vote for AFJ? | ||
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From my DT findings. LuDwig said he's going to sleep so we won't get to see what his findings are until later. Surprised no one protected treehugger..lazy medics | ||
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I already revealed my information on AFJ ( town ) aligned. | ||
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AFJ + Show Spoiler + On June 13 2010 16:56 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Ok. 2 "detectives" checks have come back townie on me. I think this should convince most of you that I'm indeed townie so that we don't have to waste a lynch. The possible scenarios right now are MooCow and ludwig are both detectives or 1 of MooCow, Ludwig are detective 1 are veteran. I didn't include the scenario where 1 or both are role claim faking because it doesn't seem likely that a mafioso would risk there being exactly 1 detective or exactly 1 veteran but not both (otherwise there'd be 3 role claimed detectives and clearly 1 would be lying). I also didn't include the other clearly improbable scenarios. MooCow detective, Ludwig detective: The only way I would turn out to be mafia is if both of them are either naiive or insane. This seems improbable. 1 detective, 1 veteran: If I'm mafia, this would imply that we have one naiive or insane detective. We won't gain much from lynching me because if I flip townie that will only say that our detective is either naiive or sane. Furthermore, we won't know whether to trust ludwig or moocow's findings because we won't know which is the detective unless they both decide to reveal their roles. This undesirable situation is a result of L's rather myopic plan. I hope this justifies going after other targets besides me today (hopefully going after someone that seems suspicious from their voting and posting behavior) since lynching me would provide minimal help and waste a townie and a lynch. Yep, even though the results are good ( both us DT's getting the same results ), I think we chose a bad target ( AFJ ) to investigate because I don't think he's suspicious or mafia like enough and the results show him as a townie As I said before we should of investigated someone that was inactive or someone that we were willing to lynch 100% as a test figure to check everyone out. I know LuDwig had to sleep so he just chose AFJ which is fair enough imo. So as a town group maybe we can chose 2 people before hand ( while we still have 3 days before the night action ends ) to chose who we want to investigate/track then we can get some very solid information. | ||
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Flamewheel *First post he revels he's actually the Godfather, lynch him. Posts in the actual start of the game : 18 #141 Gives some of his thoughts on the balance of the game. Nothing really solid. #151Wants to lynch an inactive which we did ( Jspazz ) #164He's up for roleclaiming which we all eventually do except for Chez. #242 A bit later he rc's townie, just in between the mass rc'ing of townies. #279 Gives his thoughts on 2 people rc'ing DT's ( MooCow and LuDwig) but imo doesn't really say anything useful. #326He votes for himself ( knowing that he won't be lynched but just as a placeholder because he won't be back in time for the voting ) He also gives a plan that's almost exactly the same thing I posted for the 2 DT's and watcher to do. Lasts few posts were just *one *liners not saying much. Conclusion He's actually not that active in this game imo. A lot of his posts end with something like he'll be back in a few hours or has to do something for a few hours, which is understandable, but may also be a mafia trying to cover up for his inactivity. He doesn't say much in any of his posts but he did say he will do an analysis. All of these things make me suspicious of him and I think he's mafia from my analysis so far. | ||
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On June 13 2010 23:29 LuDwig- wrote: I think that we need to put some fixed point in the game. We really don't know nothing for sure. We only know that two people claimed DTs, that they told us they rolechecked and that AFJ is green. Are they sane, insane, naive? The only way to know it (or at least starting to make thnigs more clear)is lynch AFJ .. I also thought on lynching MooCow...because i really don't believe him...If it turs out red it would be a great move..but if he is a DT for real? That would be a huge loss for the team that can make us loose the game. We can lynch another people at random..but then..why simply don't lynch you? What? You're not making much sense... You can lynch me if you want if it helps the town i'm all for it because DT's aren't that useful as you say. Also I don't think we should lynch people at random either... that's why we are trying to find suspicious behavior from players and such to lynch them... and not... randomly.... | ||
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On June 14 2010 01:04 LuDwig- wrote: can you explain this? In this thread you say a thing then you do another one? ??? Lol. That was his vote from yesterday.... Today ( using TL time June 13th ) Radfield voted for AFJ.. | ||
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On June 14 2010 09:34 Chezinu wrote: This is a pretty good argument imo, Oh! another tip: If you are the person about to get killed you should totally pretend to be Dvig and type a command to kill someone. That will add suspense! Both you and radfield milked all the cool suspense out of that Dvig trick no one will be fooled by that anymore | ||
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I'm one for lynching the inactive in this game especially because of the 1KP mafia. Either way AFJ is heavily in the spotlight we can rest assured that he'll be banging on about something in the coming days, which would either help us or make us lynch him. Now with AFJ being suspected of being a mafia and me coming out and defending him will obviously make me look like a mafia. If I were mafia I would not chose to investigate another mafia target. There were a couple ways I could of avoided this situation. 1. Chose the target before letting LuDwig chose the target. Why would I want to risk investigating another mafia member? ( I'm a lot more active than LuDwig but I let him chose ). I wanted to investigate someone inactive so we could lynch them as a test pig. 2. I wouldn't come out here and try to defend him and draw attention to myself. The risks of me doing this as a mafia almost has no reward. If it were 1KP/2Mafia then yea I would of been rewarded if AFJ is safe but doing this gives me nothing as mafia. If he flips red I can plead insane/paranoid and it puts me in the same boat as LuDwig. ( I also posted my findings on AFJ before LuDwig did ) So I don't think he's really mafia but maybe he is. For today I think we should just look at 2 of those inactive, lynch one and pre-plan for the night so we can all be on the same targets ( meeple, if he checked AFJ and came out with his information this would be a lot easier ) | ||
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@LuDwig we also need the tracker/watcher to be involved to make sure everyone is telling the truth. | ||
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I think he's saying that because L wanted to lynch you if AFJ was red. But the problem with that plan was if we did follow L's plan and lynched AFJ, he would of probably flipped town, and we wouldn't have to lynch you. So I don't think Foolishness is pretty confirmed. | ||
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I'll change it to whomever seems more appropriate later if needed. | ||
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can we agree on a target before hand so we aren't confused about who we are going to lynch the next day so all our blue roles can check each other out and hopefully help the town. These are the candidates for the next day lynch, Vivi and ohn. We can obviously change as the game flows but I want to make sure we are all on the same page for when the night action comes in. | ||
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On June 15 2010 07:52 Vivi57 wrote: [/blue]+ Show Spoiler + On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote: haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__. How to discover who is lying? The plan is quite easy! [blueTracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night! So we will know for sure who is lying MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right? BRILLIANT. They set up a scenario where they're guarenteed the tracker kill (noone double claims as tracker) and use the tracker to verify ludwig. Based on his other posting, I also doubt he could think of that plan by himself (or he could and he's just playing dumb). yeah, I'm not doing a good job of objectively reading ludwig, but he seems visibly upset when citizen hits L, criticizing the shot. But yeah, my vote is on ludwig for sure Pretty interesting read so far and good find imo. I'll re-check your stuff and post my analysis of him but it does look like LuDwig is more mafia like to me now. | ||
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On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote: [/blue]We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that) I never said I wanted to lynch LuDwig atm. I just said i'd check up closer on him. I've been trying to rally people to chose an early target to lynch as a test pig for us all ( the blues ) to check up on and prove our roles. I don't mind trying AFJ idea but I don't like bringing in extra people because it can cause so much more confusion with more lies and claims from other people rather than having one target. I suggested Vivi and Ohn earlier. Vivi just improved some of his activity and some pretty good information. Foolishness also chooses ohn. So if we can decide earlier so our night actions aren't made last minute and from one person like last night ( LuDwig ) we can work some stuff out. | ||
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On June 15 2010 08:18 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: I'm leery of DT checking ohN because he may not respond to us asking him if he got roleblocked, which is very important information if you buy into the plan I proposed (even if we don't end up lynching ludwig or moocow, in the end the more information the better right?). I think we should go with my earlier plan of 2 DT's checking one target ( possibly Ohn ). Watcher/tracker follows up on us or the target to make sure everyone is telling the truth and we all reveal our information. But with the new info we have ( AFJ and citizen MAYBE 100% town or someone we can REALLY trust) how about we PM our findings to them so we don't reveal it to the public and we'll continue from there? | ||
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On June 15 2010 08:31 Chezinu wrote: I'm here and I'm willing to change my vote. I'll be around for like another 30-40 minutes. [/pink] Just a FYI we aren't voting ohn for this current lynch right now. This is for the next lynch so we can confirm for all our blue roles on who to check. | ||
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The PM'd person confirms that he has both the DT's results and goes public with it. The information will become public to everyone just not initially. Basically imo it's just an extra method to stop one or the other from claiming to find the same info ( only 50% chance though ) but still worth it and pretty easy to do. We can even PM 2 people ( AFJ and citizen ) you guys confirm it and then come out with the information to the public. | ||
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On June 15 2010 08:50 meeple wrote: Well... I think its a good idea to PM citi.zen with the info... since then at least you're unaware of the other people's findings... I doubt its really all that useful since it's not really that profitable to copy the other persons results. Well my thinking was Scenario Both A and B claim DT. A post his findings first to the public. If B is mafia he can simply copy whatever I say to make himself also look like a DT. Although as I said there's only a 50% chance this will even do anything. If either the DT is a mafia in hopes that they don't want to potentially screw up. It's pretty simple to do with someone we trust and as i said before it may or may not be useful but it just adds a bit of trouble for the mafia. It was a suggestion but if no one wants to do it fair enough we can just go public straight away with our information. | ||
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I'm not sure that he would give that kind of information. But i'm willing to change my vote to whomever because we are basically wasting our lynch on an inactive. | ||
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On June 15 2010 09:55 Foolishness wrote: Assuming all 3 are killed, we need to discuss who DTs are checking as well. Yep we should definitely find a new target after all the killings and decide so we don't have to do a last minute scramble. Also first mafia game bandwagon hoo! | ||
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On June 15 2010 10:03 meeple wrote: Ah well... hopefully we see red blood tonight... with 4 kills its hard to beleive we won't. Still its shitty to win by inactivity Was thinking the same thing. I thought this game was supposed to be really active -_-;; | ||
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Hi-five mod kills! | ||
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He seemed to have really wanted to follow L's plan and defended him etc. He also seems new to the game so I think L was helping him along a lot. His posting has dropped a bit since L got shot. | ||
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On June 15 2010 10:28 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: My suggestion for night actions: MooCow investigates Flamewheel Ludwig investigates redtooth Meeple watches Flamewheel Medic flips a coin to protect MooCow or Meeple (if ludwig dies and flips town we pretty know MooCow is mafia, otherwise we all suspect ludwig) Hatter plants bomb on whomever they choose besides the above people Flamewheel/redtooth: it's very important that you say if you got roleblocked. If one of you lies, we can kill both you and the detective who investigated you in order reduce the mafia count to 1. People like? I have no problem following this plan but i'll admit I don't 100% really understand this plan but if everyone likes it i'll follow suit. Explain this to me as if I were an 8 year old. | ||
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On June 15 2010 10:51 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: That's only going to help if the role check(s) come back red. That plan is fine to fall back on if we can't construct a more elaborate one that will give us juicy information. Why does it only help if the RC comes back red? We chose someone that we want to lynch in advance and no matter what the RC comes back as we lynch them to help solve our sanities. | ||
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I'm suspicious but you're using my ideas in the first paragraph. I suggested all these things before Foolishness. If I were mafia why would I give the townies ideas on how to do things etc? What exactly makes you guys trust LuDwig? His actions protecting L and pushing for L's plans? His sudden inactivity as soon as L is shot? His initial reactions from when Chez was fooling around shooting people? His overall low activity? | ||
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 I died near the start of my first so this is probably the furthest i've been | ||
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I'm not even trying to look like mafia and i'm DT but I still come off as mafia! 2 faces -__-;; T__T. | ||
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Who do you guys want me to check before I die tonight? Night actions need to be sent in soon. | ||
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Do we have a night action plan? We need to send our requests in soon. If I still live till tomorrow I say we still target someone we are going to 100% lynch tomorrow also. Let's quickly work on this one. In terms of inactivity and checking through the names Redtooth stands out. His total posts in this thread since the game started so far is 7 | ||
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Checking on Flamewheel for my night action. | ||
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Let's all go mental let's all go mental! ( Useless post ) | ||
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I'm sure most of the people would trust citizen and AFJ a lot more than the others. My trust list would be AFJ and citizen. My suspicious list Meeple LuDwig ( not very suspicious of him but wary ) Redtooth ( he's so inactive 7 posts in the game so far ) Radfield Flamewheel I'm not sure of Chez so far but let's not kill him and keep him for the lols~ | ||
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I got my PM for Flamewheel. How do you guys want to do this? | ||
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On June 16 2010 11:08 Foolishness wrote: Seriously you guys are about to shit your pants Too late!  | ||
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I thought you were going to come and say AFJ or something is mafia then I would of shat my pants. | ||
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And we are either sane insane paranoid naive | ||
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On June 17 2010 09:56 Chezinu wrote: Unvote so we can kill redtooth! I don't want to die yet! How are you going to die?  | ||
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The heavy suspects list is pretty short it's either Redtooth Radfield Chezinu It'll be a bit more tricky if it's not either of you guys but the game should be pretty wrapped up if we did things correctly. | ||
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Special Night announcement Chezinu is the new MAYOR REJOICE!! | ||
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in Flamewheel last post here he uses the word "concede" and Korynne also uses that word. This might be clutching at straws a bit but maybe Flamewheel pm'd her and she just wrote that pretty quickly without thinking. This might be a bit hard to understand due to my bad explaining but hopefully someone gets it. | ||
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Clutching at straws! | ||
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On June 18 2010 04:06 Chezinu wrote: I'm pretty sure Moocow already checked me though, I thought that was the reason the Mayor was in green font. Mafia can be Mayor! I used the green font to throw them off whilst I check you tonight. | ||
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Player List: + Show Spoiler + 1. flamewheel + Show Spoiler + 5. Radfield + Show Spoiler + 7. citi.zen + Show Spoiler + 8. Foolishness + Show Spoiler + 9. redtooth + Show Spoiler + 11. meeple + Show Spoiler + 17. AcrossFiveJulys + Show Spoiler + 6. Chezinu | ||
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Let's rejoice that we won though?! But a bit too much inactivity imo | ||
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On June 18 2010 10:18 Vivi57 wrote: also, I was the only person who voted for scum day 1 or 2 :D Haha that's pretty funny.. VICTORY HORN!! ![[image loading]](http://travelblog.portfoliocollection.com/FeaturedImage/vuvuzela.jpg) | ||
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