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On June 03 2010 09:51 onihunter wrote: Why is it advantageous to lynch inactives? Never really played this game before =X Lynching inactives can be a double edged, as mafia will refrain from posting in fear of being noticed, but people with townie roles wont take it as seriously, which was a HUGE problem in that 100+ person game with ace as mayor. Oh vey, but i think with only 30 people and month long timespan or so, we'd probably be best off if the clues arent enough to point any fingers. | ||
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On June 03 2010 12:51 zeks wrote: I dont think so either and flamewheel flipped red unless mafia can kill their own now Mafia can kill their own, pretty sure flamewheel has it in the OP, and i think one more mayor candidate would be good, maybe someone who doesnt have clues linking to them so far, no offense. We still have time though. | ||
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Profiles 1. TheGilaboy 4. crate 7. onihunter 8. MooCow 14. zeks 16. YellowInk 17. DCLXVI 18. TyranoS_NiveK 19. jiabung 21. LaXerCannon 29. deconduo Pics 1. TheGilaboy 4. crate 7. onihunter 8. MooCow 14. zeks 16. YellowInk 17. DCLXVI 18.TyranoS_NiveK 21. jiabung 19. LaXerCannon 29. deconduo | ||
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yellowink zeks darth for mayor, wouldnt hurt to have more choices and opinions, as clues seem to splurge into a billion directions so early into the game. | ||
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11pm in 48 hours is the deadline, hope to see very small portion of inactives. | ||
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On June 03 2010 13:48 MTF wrote: By the way, + Show Spoiler + ranging from sniffing poison in his coffee cup Decafchicken is clearly Mafia. Poor decaf never had a chance that game  Also, can DT's do that voting list check? I remember that was insanely helpful, but it doesnt look like they can this game. | ||
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Less then 24 hours before we choose a mayor? | ||
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as for mayor, i do feel that yellows methods are very instigative, yet i really dont think hes mafia as hes bound to get checked. (im just praying for his and our sake hes not miller, which would be very ironic, comical but mostly depressing ;_; darth seems a better choice i guess just because it seems hed do everything yellow would but with more regard to the town in general which is would ultimatley lessen mafia influence. seems even less likely a mafia. but it still impotant to be overly suspicious of all candidates. zeks and bb seem to be fading into the background and i havent seen them push their campaigns lately. also mtf's choice of crate is something i would seriously consider and even mtf himself, but i dont want to push them too muvh as 1) its suspicious to back them so suddenly and 2) they both would be VERY dangerous as mafia mayors and likely to fool us. Again just being overly suspicious, not pointing your KTFinger Boom thing at anyone. posting from my phone as im at work and pretty busy, so assume im voting for darth for now, but id like to switch after more speculation. | ||
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as much as i feel darth would be a good mayor, my gut doesnt tell me straight out that darth is townie as much as yellow. excuse my grammar and format, phone posting is very hard -_- | ||
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But then the DT can still clue check him? which would still not trigger miller sign, right? Miller doesnt randomly have clues too... right? if so, then it doesnt matter, yellow can be cecked, and if that wasnt a clue for him , nothing was carry on, and i think keeping the votes even for the most part would be best. I dont really have much suspicion for bb and zeks as no one really backed them up and they were flying solo. But then again a smart mafia plan would be to let a M candidate do their own thing, and according to how townies took it they would place votes accordingly. So bb or zeks couldve have been backup or an attempt with no drawbacks. gets some mafia active anyway. also, ithink it would be ideal for darth as mayor and yellow as pardoner, i just think questionable activity would be more noticeable that way | ||
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On June 06 2010 00:31 YellowInk wrote: bumatlarge - You have been doing well so far. You have expressed your thoughts - such as wanting a mayor who didn't have a clue pointed at them, you've pointed a couple places where you think the best place for the lynch to go, and you appear to be putting a good deal of thought into your process. New mafia players who don't know what to say would do well to follow this player's pattern. There's nothing extensive in the way he's analyzing, he's just voicing what is on his mind. yeah i played a bit when mafia first hit TL, and I've found that doing this doesnt really require alot of thought or mental strain, but it helps the town, and it keeps you active. And you can still leave those tough decisions to those more experienced. Common sense and thinking things through are all you really need to be an asset. | ||
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On June 06 2010 13:05 MTF wrote: Nice try, Mafia! I'm the one who survived the hit last night, though considering the other two people Mafia targeted, I confess to being a little confused. Perhaps they figured they should target one obvious/two unobvious to strengthen their chances of not encountering a medic. Guess it kind of worked...? :p I'll be checking through clues now. If this is true, we have a very good chance hes a confirmed townie, if he goes uncontested. I doubt very much the mafia would hit their own on the off chance a medic would protect them. The only suspicion would be if mafia purposely hit only 2, and then sent one of theirs forward to claim a hit. We wouldnt know, like MTF stated right? Otherwise MTF seems like a pretty legit person to hit/protect. | ||
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On June 06 2010 13:26 Misder wrote: BurnFiveJuly also has two clues pointing to him. One is the burning the wings (his public profile) relating to the burning ink (someone pointed this out on Day 1). Then he has the weights in the gym (public profile) which relates to the weight that barth felt. Im not sure, but i think you are confusing names. Its AcrossFiveJuly and in case you thought i was buRNatlarge, a mistake i saw someone make earlier, its really bumatlarge. Just thought it would be helpful to clarify. Not really pickin up on clues very well, but i do see more bloody knife play that people can be connected too i guess, like hugo playing as spy in tf2 or those zealot/DT pics everyone already mentioned. | ||
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On June 07 2010 11:00 MooCow wrote: That was a great catch from you LunarDestiny on the voting paterns! But don't you think you should of kept it quiet for at least a day or 2 more? Because as it is right now the lynch voting seems to be going for Deuce ( seems very inactive and doesn't care about the game ) or Gilaboy ( basing it mainly on clues ). I think if you would of kept that voting pattern to yourself a little longer and realized they all kept voting near the same time it would of been so solid! But now that you called them out on it this early even if they aren't all mafia I think they are going to vote at different times just to get less suspicion on them. Great analysis too crate. In my earlier posts I did say I was suspicious of both YI and Darth but in later posts I say I do trust them for the time being but I still think we should be wary of their posts because it's a possibility that either or is a mafia. On the zeks thing I thought I was clearish . I was suspicious of zeks because he was one of the first people to run for mayor, which as you guys said mafia tends to do and tries to get a bandwagon, but no one voted for him. Zeks also has a ninja character in his profile that uses knives, they are stealthy and quick but this is only basing it on his clues.We can't really afford to keep things quiet for too long because the longer we wait the stronger mafia get. I think this is a decent time to have stated this observation, as we've seen a good number of them are voting off gila, so I say vote off gila then maybe go for the most suspicious poster of them and we could see if we are on to something. Even regarding clues, we could connect gila and multiple ones from the group. As for MTF's connection to me, I always thought it was standard that townies being killed were doing something like looking at mafia-related papers or inspecting bodies and what not. But now that you mention it, professor layton would be a prime example of someone who is always analyzing and looking for clues. Just saying it seems unintentional by flamewheel. Plus, I dont wanna lynched so early based on clues lolI'll keep my vote on gila for now, but i havent really looked at his posts. Deuce deserves to get lynched, but i couldnt imagine why a mafia would vote for himself. Maybe alot of mafia made adverse comments towards him and they feel that will help clear his name? Still ridiculously silly so hes just an apathetic towny in my book and should ask to be modkilled if hes going to go about it like that. | ||
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but yeah people shouldnt vote without any indication of reason for that day | ||
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On June 08 2010 11:04 DarthThienAn wrote: lol. yea. Lucky you had me. ... just ... man. lol. Are you trying to emulate Deuce, now that he's alive? lost track of time, and now everything is on its head >_< i have seriously no clue what you guys are doing so please have a good explanation for this | ||
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and dont even bother lunar i bet i could write the same thing darth did about everyone in this thread. dont get me wrong darth thats a very impressive analysis, but its founded on posts and assumptions. mafia can say anything and analyze jst as well. The only concrete information we can get is through roles and lies. if we can catch a lie and get DTs builing up a foundation of checks that he can issue through a mouth, then ill start making assumptions on a persons motives when the actual heat of being accused is brought on someones shoulders. it should be after this night that dts have built up something, or else stumbled on 2 mafia which would make for a huge turnaround. again posting from a phone so i apologize, i just dont want this kinda mindset enveloping the town when i get back. | ||
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im sorry about the confusion of whether clues are important, i feel thats what dts should use to start with and build, and to use for estimated lynches. im reluctant to embelish their importance because no one expects me to condemn myself when things pop up about victims looking into mafia related subjects when that scenario seems pretty common regardless of layton. if something like the printer clue led to yellowink, then id put the noose around my own neck. (by the way please tell me a dt has clue checked that to be sure) id rather follow clues though then unbased opinions of one another. though mtf you're more experienced then me and if clues really are that strong then lets follow that path. anything is better then what im seeing. | ||
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im sorry about the confusion of whether clues are important, i feel thats what dts should use to start with and build, and to use for estimated lynches. im reluctant to embelish their importance because no one expects me to condemn myself when things pop up about victims looking into mafia related subjects when that scenario seems pretty common regardless of layton. if something like the printer clue led to yellowink, then id put the noose around my own neck. (by the way please tell me a dt has clue checked that to be sure) id rather follow clues though then unbased opinions of one another. though mtf you're more experienced then me and if clues really are that strong then lets follow that path. anything is better then what im seeing. | ||
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On June 09 2010 12:05 LunarDestiny wrote: AcrossFIveJuly is a logical target. But Pyromaster is a bad target. Pyromaster got a 2 days temp ban and would be mod killed anyway. That is one wasted kill right there. And looks like someone was protected by a medic. I think pyro would have been able to avoid modkill in time, but still maybe mafia hates inactives as much as we do lol | ||
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On June 09 2010 13:04 MTF wrote: Hey, Mafia. I'm + Show Spoiler + I highly suggest you keep trying to kill me. Looking through clues now. You got hit once again? Obviously a medic protected you one day at least, so nice to know a medic is paying attention. But im tryin to ask myself why the mafia would hit a popular person once, see he lives, and then hit him ONCE the night after. Doesnt seem very well thought out, as the 50/50 shot of you being protected by a medic that time, would only lead to a medic protecting you again if you seemed like a hot target. I really dont see anyone else a medic would be desperate to protect. There is still the chance that mafia did stack hits, but that would mean your lying. I guess I'll see what you have to say, since littlechava and I were to be the prime suspects if you died, which this might as well be. | ||
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I cant argue with the 3 lions clues, the three beers just sells it. | ||
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I've got some things to post later, but after seeing who these candidates for lynching are, we have an easy win if the four above are town. If any others want to add important persons to this list, feel free to say it. I feel mafia more about solidifying the town as a community rather then searching for mafia. That part comes naturally. This game is starting to show me that mafia will naturally show aversion to the towns survival as a whole.They will pick the lengthy option in a lynch that will give more time, because they just have to outlast the towns self decay. Once the town starts to gain momentum, you'll start to see certain people get desperate. The most dangerous mafia who feels hes safe and calm. If the town starts to get in a commotion, mafia start to gett a little reckless and get active. And they cant avoid it, so ican say it without worry. I just dont want any higher ups showing they are comfortable. completely down with ousting oni, enabling the double andby then getting more clues/dt leads. oh yeah be careful of dt darth, A fake DT putting a fellow mafia forward is not unheard of. Especially if that subject has all this dirt on him. Forgot GF and miller dont say anything for certain that could possibly involve these roles. ill be back at 10 | ||
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On June 10 2010 11:19 YellowInk wrote: Only scum like you would have such a perverted mind. ^.~ Or maybe a really sick mind would make that kind of connection, which leads me to believe YOU'RE REALLY THE + Show Spoiler + perverted one | ||
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I'll start with MTF, because in my mind he would be the most dangerous. If hypothetically mafia: 1) Godfather no doubt, comes out claiming 2 hits, bound to be checked 2) Hasn't called out anyone, but speaks his mind very logically pinning clues to people, and usually making his own findings. Mafia wouldn't have to much trouble with this, but neither would the most honest of townies. 3) Dont believe he has labelled onihunter or 3 lions, so this wouldn't have been planned, but he did mention Hugo who seems up in the air at the moment, so nothing deep here. 4) Likes to have opinions of people and not afraid to share. He seems satisfied with the management. But all this is fairly pointless because he doesnt have clues pointing to him yet that anyone has pointed out, and I'd say a substantial amount of clue-finding has been appearing. But there is a chance people have skipped over things, so I went back for a 2nd run-through of all the days to see what I could pick up. Remember Im only going after MTF because he would be the most dangerous mafia in my book. I will get to the other guys when I have the chance. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/flamewheel/TL_Mafia_XXVI/22_MTF.jpg) Basically I went on his name, the turtle, and his paragraph about people using intimidation and self-assumed power as a means of covering up how useless they are Day 1: I read it once, looked at the profile, read it again, profile, post, profile, and made one observation that I will need help on. Look at this part of the BC paragraph "Making his way down to the city center, he gazed at the buildings as he passed, the shopping mall that had just been built, the school he went to when he was a kid, just farther down the way a series of small stores and restaurants. Making his way back the way he came, he stopped by the fountain in front of the office. It was there he noticed he was being followed. Turning, he saw a figure rush forward. The following morning, the town would discover the mayor BloodyC0bbler dead and floating in the town fountain." There is alot of stuff in there. something about a town fountain outside a mall where the mayor was found floating. This was Oni's clue right? Long time to get a simple "he swam for 5 years" connected. Now this is where I perked up. MTF. MallTown fountain. Mayor floating in town fountain. Mayor turns to figure. The Following Morning. Now before you start jumping to conclusions, would flamewheel really put a clue like this? I've tried making heads or tails out of this for a good half-hour. Nothing went M____ T____ F____. Mall's town fountain is a bit of a stretch. "The following morning" is in the wrong order. Mayor T____ Floating? Does he want us to make synonyms? There is a potential puzzle in this, but this is as far as I went. It could be a gross misconception of a mere coincidence. But putting one M_ T_ F_ in order would just give it away. ^So I need help with that my mind is frazzled enough as it is. Day2: Only had to read this once to pick this up. " A masked figure followed him, and stealthily kept to the shadows, not letting ElyAs out of his sight. ElyAs moved quickly, breaking into a quick run, hoping to make it back home before he was overtaken. However, he was not to make it. As ElyAs passed by the town courthouse, he noticed that he had already been beaten--the masked figure was sitting on the steps." Tortoise and the Hare? An interesting take on it and not obvious. But it's something, I personally feel its a little stronger then a bunch of people with DTs in their profiles, but again there have been alot more then 6 people who have decent connections to clues. Its just a matter of connecting them. Day3: Stuff here about "slow" being thrown around. "However, just like the last night, a few people were too slow" "He walked slowly and deliberately" "slowly turned around" Doubt I need to explain. So with a little patience, I now have a previously clue-less person connected to all 3 days. I'd be a little less insistent, but I want to tie up those double hits on MTF to a medic, because he does have a medic. So if that medic could just somehow inform us that he did indeed protect MTF and got notified, that would really ease my conscience. Maybe if you really find you can trust someone rather then MTF himself, I'd appreciate it just to have 2 people liable to counteract these clues. I like my pudding with a side of proof I probably wont get to crate tonight, but Id suggest that you rolecheck him, even more so then MTF, because he seems less likely to be picked as a GF, but still a candidate, not running for mayor may either help or hinder his case for being a GF. Can't really tell, I don't think im good at this posting analysis thing >.<Oh and no one suggested anyone for this insurance list of darth/MTF/crate/yellow, cmon guys, we mostly seem to be focusing on the lower tier posters, I'm look forward to yellows posting opinions on individuals because I still personally feel hes not a mafia, and he seems very precise on these, which is helpful for my lackluster performance in this department. | ||
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And it's nice to see inspection of the people I posted, so I'm going to throw crate and darth in with the next post I do with previous clue found on them, because Im losing it (maybe I should drink more when im analyzing lol). I'll get to yellow in a bit. Also, why MTF can avoid suspicion because he is a bulletproof role? I think it's still relatively up in the air until his medic can find a way to vouch for him. I'm just entirely against ruling anyone out as mafia. | ||
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On June 11 2010 05:43 MTF wrote: 2. Why waste kills (2 more town/blue roles dead by this point) when all that is gained by having me claim to have been hit really does is expose my posting habits to more scrutiny? Answer is, it doesn't, unless you think Mafia-side is trying to play in the most complicated way possible. It's been my experience that, other than selective PMs trying to persuade people, Mafia tend to stay as uncomplicated as possible, so that they don't get their members trapped in the open. I know this isn't going to convince you, Bumatlarge, but I'm putting it out there anyway for those following the conversation. Its this part that boggles me to no end. I completely agree; why waste those two kills. But then I bounce back into 'why hit you twice'? I think I'm willing to let it go on the premise that mafia didn't thoroughly think that through and figured they would get lucky. And thats all I'll say on the matter. Convince me? NEVER! | ||
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50.0001% hard facts 30% clues 20% behavior Thats what I personally go by, but as long as your considering them all in your vote you cant really have a wrong vote. | ||
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Amen. | ||
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id like to also move those 3 unsures to most likely town, as gilaboy and decond seem deliberatley low post count, in fact id protect these two. deuce is an asshole townie im very certain. They would also be good candidates for rolechecks and medics, as they seem like mafia targets to me from the way mafia has been going. | ||
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my condolences. | ||
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i havent been in pm contact with anyone :/ ill try to get a bit more active tonight, but i was at my friends gig and i just woke up at his house lol. | ||
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But who cares right, apparently no one. This game will either boil down to mafia being downright stupid, or mafia playing us all an laughing at how retarded we act at times. Really felt I shoulda played this differently in the beginning. Damn my coming of age! | ||
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Oh fucking great now im a fucking miller. GENIUS ROLE FLAMEWHEEL. Sure lets fuck up common sense and and everything with complete uncertainty. What did you expect bum? Of course this would happen yeah of course. Now I have to get lynched no matter what because some people in clues were looking at things funny and you get blessed with this wonderful outcome! Oh look now hes starting to post decent stuff! LETS SCREW HIM OVER! | ||
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1) I want Darth's people to find another liable person that knows who they are. I'm not going to suggest anyone, but I'd suggest MTF. Revamped what my thoughts were. The clues I came up with were relatively far fetched, and the situation he was posed in makes little sense to me anymore if he is mafia. They can barely afford kills like that even for that one time. I was just trying to stir up a kind of thought process of people having "inklings" about people's roles. 2) Darth is probably mafia. Unless the mafia have been going deep into this plan, which after the double hits on MTF screw-up doesn't seem very likely. That DT could be a rogue, if he exists, and they knew darth would be under watch if they ousted the last BG and yellow, and darth has 2 DTs now right? He's going to get caught in cross-fire, which would seem a very brilliant plan by mafia to take out the mayor and buy a day for themselves. But then I look at the people they were hitting and I laugh a this possibility. We still have plenty of time to dig this matter up. Just don't trust anyone unless you rolecheck someone and the Godfather's head is in your backpack. | ||
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On June 13 2010 08:22 DarthThienAn wrote: BTW guys. Second DT PMed me. bumatlarge got cluechecked to be mafia. Um no DCL Im merely correcting facts, There is a 2nd DT that PM'd darth. Point to one post that says I'm going off the deep end. | ||
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On June 13 2010 13:20 DarthThienAn wrote: Zyrre, I'm going to mostly ignore your post and let the results speak for themselves. Lynch bumatlarge first, and then lynch me if he's not mafia/miller. The outcome if bumatlarge is green: you lynch me and I'm mafia. Mafia are down to 3, with only 3 voting power. Town has 13 - 1 - 2 (assuming perfect hits), 10 vs 3, still pretty good odds, especially if we still have 2 dts and 2 medics and 1-2 veterans in there. Does that sound good? If you disagree with this, then a) you're mafia b) you're being incredibly unreasonable or c) I can write out why your post doesn't quite work. MTF hasn't gotten back to me, but I told him the DT's name. I don't know why you say I don't trust MTF, it's him who [didn't] trust me as a knee jerk reaction to the night kills. kneejerk my foot scum + Show Spoiler + hey dead townies can have fun to right? cant reserve that for people like oni | ||
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On June 13 2010 13:54 DarthThienAn wrote: ...lol wat. Hm let me analize darth's post to derive whether or not he is mafia. If we see he put 3 periods preceeding the text, so we can safely assume he hesitated, which may give away a somewhat mafi-esque posting personality. The "lol wat" can be take a variety of ways. The simpleton would take this as a joke so I'll try to break this down for you. lol wat - reverse it wat lol - we now switch the last letters wal lot - Hm.... wallet From this we can assume that because of his mayoral status that he has a hunger for power. And with this hidden gem we can assume he is greedy. The answer is staring us in the face... + Show Spoiler + im insane | ||
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Aw this one is a bit simpler but ill go slow. We see his reference to the page 69 used so self consciously that one would be wary of jumping to conclusions. Thus I question DCLXVI's sexuality. He seems defensive also but firm. Like a fortress. Of sticks. We all know that you need alot of sticks to build one, somewhere in the hundreds for at least a small-ish one correct? So with his inconclusive homosexual status and his wooden demeanor we can gather that he is a + Show Spoiler + Faggot | ||
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On June 13 2010 08:31 MTF wrote: Time for some posting analysis on Oni/3 Lions, with the aid of knowing that they were Mafia this time. (gonna steal crate's format, kinda, because I'm shorter on time than usual) 3 Lions: + Show Spoiler + Summary: + Show Spoiler + - Points a clue at MooCow, Darth later comments on it being a "really nice catch". - Points clues at MooCow, Onihunter, Zeks, and Tyranos_Nivek. - "Sorry for inactivity" post. - Points clues at TheGilaBoy, Tyranos_Nivek, and Littlechava, which helps start off a bandwagon towards killing TheGilaBoy. Observed Relations: + Show Spoiler + None, never talked to anyone directly. Just posted clues. Conclusions: + Show Spoiler + 3 Lions was probably just trying to look somewhat active by doing very light cluework. The fact that he implicated one of his teammates in a post means very little when the way he did it was weak. However, he later very specifically points at TheGilaBoy, singling him out with stronger connections than to either Littlechava or Tyranos_Nivek. I believe this clears TheGilaBoy of suspicion, at this point. I do not think Mafia would have put so much pressure on one of their own in that way. Littlechava's clue connection was very weak, though, so the suspicion is not cleared there. Onihunter: + Show Spoiler + Summary: + Show Spoiler + - Asks zeks why it's good to lynch inactives, cites self-newbieness. - Posts about there being a lot to read. Mentions Darth's cluelist (he lists zeks, Tyranos, and TheGilaBoy) as being a good place to start looking for people to kill once the time comes. Reiterates newbieness. - Is against voting for YellowInk, claims he wants someone in that has no clues attached to him. - Continues to mention that we need someone without clues in office, continues being against electing YellowInk. - "bedtime, will read when I return kthxbai" type post. - "I'm back, gonna catch up now" type post. (Told you guys to look out for these) - "Caught up, response now" type post. Supports Darth, still against YellowInk. - Supports crate's strategy, talks about "mafia's evil hands", and calls out the inactives. - Agrees again with crate about wanting more information from candidates. Reiterates his strong support of Darth. Says he wants to lynch inactives, again. - Tentively agrees with LunarDestiny's way-out-there suggestion to lynch the Pardoner upon election. Posts general comments about the candidates: On June 04 2010 14:21 onihunter wrote: Darth: General agreement is he posts like a townie, so that's a plus. Also experienced, but that's neither a plus nor a minus. He also seems clear-headed. Yellow: Posts a LOT. Seems quite defensive when criticized, and I can't really say that I like the guy =/. Just personal preference though, nothing really concrete. Also inciting lots of arguing and conflict that is unnecessary at this point in the game. Beardude: I really liked him until he responded to Inkguy's attack. His responses weren't that coherent though imo, and he seemed really emotional in that post to me. Also he himself stated that it's personal between the two now, sort of alienating me. However, he IS running for pardoner specifically. Zeks: There isn't really that much past the few posts that contained mistakes, so can't say much. Suspicious in that he's not a newbie to this game, but I think it's forgivable. Overall, no one's quite solid, but I'd say that Darth slightly edges out the rest. Basically even for the rest. Once again, Darth is above all other runners. - Near the end of voting is suddenly alright with YellowInk/DarthTheinAn being voted in together. - Once again, supports DTA over YellowInk, mentions him having no clues connected to him again as well. Wants LaXer to die first. - Mentions that the active posters will probably not be protected tonight, is disagreed with by BrownBear and LunarDestiny is quick succession. - "bedtime, SAT test tomorrow". - Doesn't support YellowInk's plan to have a minimum posting limit per cycle on players. "Will post later when things occur to me". - More supporting activeness over inactiveness. - Posts about the probability of Mafia hitting medic/DT randomly. - For lynching Deucegladlier based on inactivity. - Argues against lynching MooCow, reiterates that we should kill off Deuce. - Says that MooCow talking a lot should be an easy indicator of if he's Mafia. - Reactionary post to the vigi modkill, as well as to MooCow being green. - Comment to LunarDestiny about it being okay that he switched to MooCow. - More probabilities of hitting blue roles. - Responds to an analysis done by Zyrre (who says he has a high chance of being Mafia) for three posts in a row. - Clarifies what Darth means when he says he's half-naked after a bodyguard goes down. - Talks about the clues against 3 Lions, without directly talking about 3 Lions at the time (this was after LD posted his cluework). - From here out it's just "don't kill me, lawl!" It still seems quite odd that he's giving up here without any sort of struggle. It feels almost like strong-arming the vote towards lynching him. Observed Relations: + Show Spoiler + Heavily for: DarthTheinAn For: crate Neutral: zeks, BrownBear, LunarDestiny Against: Heavily Against: ~ Conclusions: + Show Spoiler + More than ever, I'm worried about Darth being Mafia. This is solely because of the fact that Onihunter was so consistently against voting for YellowInk, but almost immediately for voting for Darth. Several other things to note. First, he makes liberal use of the "I'll be back later" types of posts, with no content to them. While these can certainly be legitimate, I have noted their danger before. These are filler posts, even if you do come back and post something later. It mimics activity so that the mental slate with your name on it and a timer next to it is wiped clean from other posters minds. Second, Zyrre is very unlikely to be Mafia in my eyes. He targeted Onihunter specifically in his analysis (who responded defensively), as well as mentioned 3 Lions being a suspect of his. Third, he had an pro-active stance against inactivity, frequently calling for people to post. This shows to anybody who hasn't encountered this before how a Mafia member can try to blend in well by posting a lot, seemingly supporting town ideals, but really adding no content. Finally, it seems very unlikely to me that Deucegladlier is Mafia, due to Onihunter's strong stance for lynching him. And now, to ease my curiousity: (all in order of occurrence) Compilation of Heavy/Quick Darth Supporters: + Show Spoiler + LunarDestiny (because of previous game with and clues/behavior against YellowInk) LittleChava (because of lack of clues as well as posting) Onihunter (because of general "vibe") BrownBear (because of lack of clues as well as posting/previous game with) Compilation of Those With Issues Towards YellowInk in Mayoral Race: + Show Spoiler + zeks (clues as validation) DarthTheinAn (theory on Mafia-plan, later on clues as validation) Onihunter (clues against/aggressive campaigning) MTF (clues as validation) MooCow (clues against/aggressive campaigning) Hugoboss21 (clues against) Pyr0ma5ta (clues against) LunarDestiny ("suspicious actions") deconduo (aggressive campaigning) littlechava (because of clues against and behavior) BrownBear (clues against/aggressive campaigning) DCLXVI (aggression) Compilation of "Need Mayor With No Clues" Sorts: + Show Spoiler + Onihunter BumAtLarge TL;DR Version: + Show Spoiler + 1. I believe Zyrre, TheGilaBoy, and Deucegladlier have a high chance of being town-aligned. 2. I am worried (not at all certain, but worried) about Darth being Mafia. 3. Be cautious of activity/pro-active town stances with no other valuable substance. It is easy to post in support of something. It is far more time consuming to put forth a new (or good) argument. 4. Also, be on the look-out for all people posting excuses for not being active/that they'll post later even though they clearly are on the computer long enough to post (looking at BumAtLarge here) now. More complicated reasons are more suspicious than regular ones. Finally, one thing we haven't considered in clearing Darth on the Onihunter kill: Suppose that Darth is in contact with a legitimate DT, who was pressing Darth to announce for him that he'd cluechecked Onihunter? This gives him motivation without establishing any credibility towards his being town, and would help to explain why Onihunter went down without a fight. I guess it's up to me to analyze this gem. He not afraid to be organized and uses color coding format appealing to the eye. He's not afraid to admit he uses the format of someone else. He knows you're fucking lazy so he puts a lovely TL;DR for your convenience you ungrateful piece of pie. Thinks that mafia always lie. If mafia always lie, can they lie about lying? therefore speaking truth? Or is a lie just the absence of truth, like evil is the absence of good? But then would that make a simple object like a rock evil? Does it possess no good? No, it does, because it serves it's purpose, which is to exist (it does that quite well thank you very much), which is the simplest form of all religions, that everything serves a purpose. But on a mental plane, is this true? How are we to know our purpose? It is said to come naturally, that you find it. Let me relate a story that happened to me that I hold very dear to my heart, I was in my senior year of highschool, my gym teacher would make us run laps for apparently no reason. We would test what it was that triggered him to make us run all of a sudden. It came to me that he was up to no good, and that he was going to make trouble. I challenged him to a fight and he nailed me in the eye that was completely unfair, and my mama said you're moving to with your auntie and uncle in bel air. I whistled for a cab and when it came near the license plate said fresh and there was dice in the mirror. If anything Id say that this cab was rare but i said nah forget it yo homes to bel air. Pulled up to the house around seven or eight and I yelled to the cab yo homes smell ya later. Looked up at my kingdom I was finally there sit on my throne as the prince of bel air. And that leads us mostly to believe just about anything in this world that will give us any semblance of comfort. Which ultimately leads me to believe that MTF is the godfather with a cool little hat and everything. Fedora? and a pinstriped suit. | ||
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On June 14 2010 07:13 Zyrre wrote: + Show Spoiler + oya, and I gave you guys a bonus one through modkill yesterday too, when I could have just had him lynched and saved onihunter for another day and left mafia with 3 KP. Not sure if you are doing this intentionally, but MTF already said why you could not do this and I quoted him. Anyway, I was only pushing it this hard since DTA being mafia would be the only way we could lose this. But since I wasn't getting any reaction, I'll stop. Maybe I'm just overestimating the mafia. Hey man, dont self depreciate yourself like that, you did the best you could On June 14 2010 04:52 flamewheel wrote: bumatlarge, language. I apologize almighty one! | ||
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On June 14 2010 06:52 zeks wrote: I'll go with the town majority and vote Hugo for my 2nd. I was really skeptical of DTA yesterday with all the clues suggesting it was him (force push, force lightning, heavy breathing, that inexplicable leg explosion thingy on YI) but I know better than to lynch on clues alone. DTA has done enough to warrant my trust - as have MTF/crate suggested also. Nothing really to add. I was more skepetical of DTA when bum RCed Miller and weirdly oni didn't. But seeing the way bum is acting right now I don't regret voting for him even if he does end up miller. Well thats not cool, you should never regret anything! Trust your instincts! | ||
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On June 14 2010 08:15 DarthThienAn wrote: it was a joke t.t. Don't got to be all technical about it. Oh look posting at the same time as me. Lynch him ASAP. | ||
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Thing that murdered us was just lack of effort from 3lions and hugo. Oni did his best and i thought we had a shoe in from darth and crates acceptance. Really wanted to fake a dt to yellow but by that time oni was being lynched and hugo and lions were mia I wasnt trying to backstab darth, i was just attempting to clear his name when i got lynched. GG fellas hope i didnt hurt any feelings >:D | ||
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