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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
For detective: If your result shows mafia role, keep it to yourself. If your result shows town role, you can use him to be your spoke person (there is a small chance that the person is godfather which shows up as townie in checks). For Vigilante: Don't do anything yet. There is no really good target to use your ONE-TIME kill. | ||
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
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onihunter
United States515 Posts
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DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:08 LunarDestiny wrote: For detective: If your result shows mafia role, keep it to yourself. If your result shows town role, you can use him to be your spoke person (there is a small chance that the person is godfather which shows up as townie in checks). Godfather The Godfather has the ability to decide what role he will appear to be when a Detective role checks him. The godfather can be tricky, as he can role claim and turn up clean to role checks. Watch out for any blue roles too. | ||
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
 As for medic protection, I'd say protect those whom you feel for some reason are town. Level of activity can contribute, of course, but as has already been mentioned, Mafia unfortunately has the ability to choose between obvious targets/random targets without disclosing that information to us beforehand. :p I would personally be going along with BrownBear and the "better safe than sorry" approach, but it really is your choice. Good luck in making it and don't get discouraged if you don't protect anyone. Medic is not an easy role to play! | ||
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jiabung
United States720 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
Like Yellow said, check out the active people. They are the people who are going to help you the most when you check them and get townie back. If you get mafia back, then great, of course, but forming a town circle is HUGE + has a lot of potential to win the game for us. Being organized when the mafia doesn't know about it (town circle is through PMs of course) is a big step / advantage for town. Another thing you might think about though is, check out someone active, who you consider pro-town. That way, when you check them and they come back as green or blue, you don't have to wonder if they are the GF. I mean, technically, they could be, but the chances are much lower now, and it's a risk that I personally would take (in PMing them after you get the results back). It's too bad about the hit guys. This is why you can't be inactive as a townie . It may not seem like it, but it's detrimental to the town if you don't do anything as a green townie. On June 05 2010 13:54 jiabung wrote: I'm dead =*( you should have posted sooner man. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:20 flamewheel wrote: flamewheel has been chosen from a Random Cute Generator. ^^ party all day and sleep all night. yeaa, thats this town  . | ||
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
What if the Mafia/the GF (the godfather especially benefits from staying active and putting on a townie facade, right?) are keeping active in this game and it's helping them? We've already taken down one town member, probably simply because he was inexperienced with the game. I know I am. I think all of us should be more careful before we decide who we vote for lynching as well as who the blue roles help/hurt. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
3 Lions - inactive, 3 game posts total, 2 of which are clue-oriented, 1 of which is "I'm inactive/away". Step up your game man and POST MORE PLZ. +1 suspiciousness for you. Actually, I'll make my points mean something: +7 sputnik.theory - Also 3 game posts total, 1 intro-as-newbie-post as I suggested pregame, 1 post asking if it's common for mafia to run for mayor and suggesting more candidates, doesn't care if between me and yellow who's mayor/pardoner, pro-lynching inactives so that we probably won't hit a blue (good, but obvious reasoning). POST MORE PLZ. +3 LaXerCannon - total of 4 posts but that don't mean much for content! Apparently missed the "THE GAME'S STARTING" memo, and just got in the game recently. Got up a person-clue list which is ... alright. Just read the thread man (as in, I don't think you have), and post more. You're still under suspicion for being completely MIA for the entire first day. As long as you step it up, you'll be okay though. +3 MooCow - sup cutie  +0 (I don't do negatives... lol jk. just not right now). Great activity, keep it up. 5th place according to LD's chart! pyr0ma5ta - looks like... 4 in-game posts, 1 irrelevant, 1 joking about supporting LD if he runs (for an excel sheet LOL), 1 copy-pasting bumatlarge's list of clue-linked ppl and saying he suspects Yellow and zeks due to the clues related to them (this was early on), and 1 saying... DUN DUN DUN: On June 04 2010 08:02 pyr0ma5ta wrote: Yellowink, not only will not vote for you as mayor at this point, at this point I am leaning towards lynching you first. OH SNAP. DID HE JUST --- lol. A really uncalled for and bold accusation. However, this makes me think he is townie, because afaik, he's newbie and a newbie mafia wouldn't go around attracting attention like that by calling someone out straight-up like that. HOWEVER. He's still as inactive as the first two I analyzed. Step up yo game and POST MORE PLZ. He's also posted more in other TL forums recently than in this thread. UNACCEPTABLE. lol. +2 Misder - 3 in game posts, 1 pregame, irrelevant, 1 saying flamewheel's lightning is probably not a clue (true), and 1 commenting about clues (not even a big commentary either), and dodging because he doesn't read. This was all relatively early on too - he's gone MIA as of late... interestingg... he had that phantom vote for BB as well which got counted under my name (I have no idea why lol), and didn't explain it. POST MORE PLZ. +5 All of these names (except for MooCow) also need to explain why they voted for me (Misder, explain why you voted for BrownBear). | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 05 2010 15:10 littlechava wrote: Can't all this active hyping hurt the town though? Everyone keeps saying the most active people are probably townies, since mafia members don't want to draw attention to themselves and risk getting outed, but I mean, this is a game of deception after all. What if the Mafia/the GF (the godfather especially benefits from staying active and putting on a townie facade, right?) are keeping active in this game and it's helping them? We've already taken down one town member, probably simply because he was inexperienced with the game. I know I am. I think all of us should be more careful before we decide who we vote for lynching as well as who the blue roles help/hurt. The more active = the more prone to error and slipups = good for town. The more active = the better I (and everyone else) can read you (and everyone else) The more active = the more thinking and planning and organization gets done. No one's saying that activity = pro-town. If any has, it's more like, "his activity combined with the pro-town feel of his posts..." etc. I'll speak from experience - mafia inherently have less incentive to be active and post. First of all, they don't want to post a lot and help the town. They want to skate by unnoticed, and kill people silently at night. This is why we call out anyone who seems inactive, ever. Others do the "I'm pro-town" scheme early, and then fade away. Either way, we as town want to force mafia to speak up more so that they can slip up and are forced to either make bad logic, or give up their own members. If the mafia/GF are being really active, then we need to step up and match them. Read: TOWN BE MORE ACTIVE PLZ. Seriously, I mean 24 brains >>> 6 brains right? No one wins mafia games alone. The town has an advantage in that we (ideally) have 24 people thinking for us, whereas they have 6, and those 6 are limited. We took down an inactive member who was probably inexperienced BECAUSE he didn't do what we told him to. It would've been easy for him to, as town, just post "I voted for myself because... I'm symbolically abstaining" and then post whatever else is relevant. Him not posting hurt the town. Doing nothing doesn't do nothing to the town, it hurts it. Everyone got it? And, we're always careful about who we lynch. Yellow and I gave our reasoning as to why we lynched jiabung - if you disagreed you should have proposed someone else / spoken up much sooner. If anyone has a good idea, of course we'll take it. Until then, you're leaving it on us "active" people to do all the thinking, which sucks for me personally at least. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
And I second what Darth is saying - I want to see all the people who were reasonably to terribly inactive the first day really step it up and post a ton second day. I posted something like 20 times, I feel that 10-15 should be the bare minimum for anyone who wants to contribute to the game. Also, make your posts content-filled please! Don't just post 10 one liners and walk off thinking you did your part, cause you didn't, and people will call you on it. On June 05 2010 10:36 LunarDestiny wrote: Here you go (did not take account of quality of post, just quanity. Number of post as of post #469: ![[image loading]](http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8149/post469.jpg) Where did you get that, because I want it. Or is that just your spreadsheet? | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
I can post my updated spreadsheet but it is damn biased... | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
Yes active mafia exist, but worrying that active members are mafia get us nowhere. Not to be bragging, but here's an example of me being godfather and active at the same time. Link If you look at the quality of my post. Most of them are spam and doesn't contribute to town. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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MooCow
1434 Posts
The first posts that kind of "shocked" me were LaXerCannon and 3 Lions, just because they haven't been very active and they start the night phase by instantly trying to link people to clues. I know 3L gave a reason but meh seems a bit suspicious to me. | ||
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MooCow
1434 Posts
As I said before I just think it's a bit difficult for 6 organized people to not get someone into the mayor/pardoner role. | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
Also to add to yellow ink's plan: For detective: If your result shows mafia role, keep it to yourself. If your result shows town role, you can use him to be your spoke person (there is a small chance that the person is godfather which shows up as townie in checks). Don't think vigi can hit first night. Since the GF chose a role already day 1: History of Godfathers: TLXXII - Bill Murray chose Townie TLXVI - Mystlord chose Veteran TLXX - Foolishness chose Medic TLXVIII - SugiuraMidori chose Bodyguard, Foolishness chose Townie TLXVI - decafchicken (no idea what he chose couldn't find it in the thread) TLXV - L chose Veteran Mini Mafia 1 - Pyrrhuloxia chose Townie Pyrry's Mafia Game - ydg chose Veteran That's as far as I got I know I missed some games ... especially BC's games are so much harder to dig for information because he doesn't have wrap up threads =/ | ||
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barth
Ireland1272 Posts
On June 05 2010 21:47 MooCow wrote: I know we voted in Darth and YI but I think people should remain vigilant about them though. They may or may not be mafia so be careful. As I said before I just think it's a bit difficult for 6 organized people to not get someone into the mayor/pardoner role. True, everything anyone says should be considered a potential lie. I do doubt however that either Darth or YI is mafia but everything`s possible. Night 1 should clear a lot of things up. | ||
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