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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
Again, there is very little chance that YellowInk is mafia. I will repeat: Mafia do not want to present themselves as the center of attention. Mafia do not go to the thread and start accusing people left and right. Mafia also do not spam post like crazy. We do not need a Mayor that is smart but might be mafia. We need a Mayor who is 100% pro town and also listen to the majority. YellowInk satisfy this. | ||
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ElyAs
France205 Posts
Same can be said for Darth. PMing the inactives is a good move as all these inactive cannot possibly be all mafias. I'd like to have confirmation from barth and supernovamaniac. (even though they did not deny it, I just want to be sure.) And yeah, i know that I wasn't really active yesterday, I'm going to try and fix that. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
IF inactive shows up tomorrow, ask them: Did they get the pm and when did they get the pm from Darth. If the inactives can confirm that Darth sent them the pm, then Darth is almost certain not mafia. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On June 04 2010 14:15 LunarDestiny wrote: Flamewheel did mention something about mod killing the inactive (those who didn't vote). Someone got to confirm with Flamewheel on that matter about will he really mod kill the inactive. For the first lynch, I want the target to be an inactive (posted minimum to stay alive) and also has clues relating to him. The first time somebody fails to meet both requirements, they receive a warning. If transgression happens again, inactives die, by fiery lightning. Then they will go on the ban list. On June 04 2010 14:24 DarthThienAn wrote: Yo, this ain't cool. flame's lightning-ing anyone who hasn't posted at least once AND voted. major =[s. This is correct. On June 04 2010 17:22 LunarDestiny wrote: Also, when asking they did they got the pm from Darth, tell them not to post the actual pm which is illegal in mafia war. You may post PMs you receive/send to others, just not those from hosts. | ||
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barth
Ireland1272 Posts
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
On June 04 2010 17:02 LunarDestiny wrote: I don't get why people thinks YellowInk got good logic. Some of his arguments have major flaws in them. But that doesn't matter if he is willing to listen to logic and follow the majority. I would even go a step beyond and compare him to a pro town, a bit smarter Bill Murray. Again, there is very little chance that YellowInk is mafia. I will repeat: Mafia do not want to present themselves as the center of attention. Mafia do not go to the thread and start accusing people left and right. Mafia also do not spam post like crazy. We do not need a Mayor that is smart but might be mafia. We need a Mayor who is 100% pro town and also listen to the majority. YellowInk satisfy this. I think being inactive is somewhat of a tell for what color they are. We need a townie mayor to also move us in the right direction. I want to note that he's basically attacked every other mayor candidate thats been running (probably the softest on Darth) and ends with something like Vote YellowInk for Mayor - I don't how many times you've done that but is it supposed to be some kind of viral advertising? Yes I've played before (2 years ago), not as close to being as active as this game and I'm still learning. So, less than 24 hours to go...who are we lynching tonight? Are we going with the vote-for-lynch tonight? I forgot to mention it but thank you crate for bringing it up - with this strategy we get another vote count and another list of information we can work off of. Plus clues and possible first night role-checks the DTs should have plenty to work with. My bad, I thought I remembered that he said that he had a grudge or something before the really long counter-post. When did I ever say I have a grudge? Alls in fair game. I'm trying to play this game while at work so its kind of difficult for me to juggle between them both. I'll try to summarize the strategies we have right now later today and maybe I'll have some new ideas. Unfortunately I do have some things to attend to so I won't be checking this thread, but I'll make sure I would have said everything by then. | ||
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ElyAs
France205 Posts
And I really hope that these 2-3 inactives are going to wake up soon, every townie counts ! | ||
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DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 04 2010 16:45 BrownBear wrote: Thread appears to have shut down for the night, so I will as well - see you all tomorrow! Yeah man I was out zzz'ing by like 1am last night lol. On June 04 2010 14:48 LunarDestiny wrote: Sorry Darth, but yellow ink had been posting a lot. Willing to be in center of attention even though you are winning in the election by miles and his only vote is from himself. Because of yellow ink's huge postings record, I have to say yellow ink's chance of being mafia is very, very low. And your chance of being mafia is higher (no offense). I am going to do what seem like a retard thing that most people hear wouldn't agree on: to change my vote to Yellow Ink (WHAT?). I weighed Yellow Ink's innocence against Darth's experience and chose the former. Like I said before, mafia being Mayor is pretty much a GG. So I beg you guys to vote for Yellow Ink or change your vote to Yellow Ink. On June 04 2010 17:02 LunarDestiny wrote: I don't get why people thinks YellowInk got good logic. Some of his arguments have major flaws in them. But that doesn't matter if he is willing to listen to logic and follow the majority. I would even go a step beyond and compare him to a pro town, a bit smarter Bill Murray. Again, there is very little chance that YellowInk is mafia. I will repeat: Mafia do not want to present themselves as the center of attention. Mafia do not go to the thread and start accusing people left and right. Mafia also do not spam post like crazy. We do not need a Mayor that is smart but might be mafia. We need a Mayor who is 100% pro town and also listen to the majority. YellowInk satisfy this. To be honest, this is the train of thought I've had for most of the game. I've been reading pro-town for YellowInk for much of this game -_-, and the fact that he points fingers around like crazy (relative to everyone else) this early is something that makes him pro-town. The only thing that made me hesitate was the fact that another common move by mafia is to point the finger at everyone else when they are suspected at all (from the clue). So I wasn't sure which case this was, but his posting is very pro-town, so I'll agree to that. Even if you don't like his logic, he's responded to mostly anything anyone has said to him, as well as to other people's ideas. I personally follow most of it; any flaws that you see should be brought up immediately in the future =P. And again, I don't mind him in office. (Hey, I just checked - my post count is pretty close -_-. lol) On June 04 2010 17:12 LunarDestiny wrote: ElyAs, you brought up a good point that Darth pmed inactive. Mafia does not benefit from inactive not being mod killed. If they want their inactive members to do the minimum posting and not get mod kill, they can just pm their own members. IF inactive shows up tomorrow, ask them: Did they get the pm and when did they get the pm from Darth. If the inactives can confirm that Darth sent them the pm, then Darth is almost certain not mafia. I PMed them a little bit before supernovamaniac posted his recent post. On June 04 2010 20:56 ElyAs wrote: Okay, I just realized that jiabung has voted for himself. Are you going to run for mayor ? And I really hope that these 2-3 inactives are going to wake up soon, every townie counts ! to be fair, I told the newbies who didnt know who to pick to vote for themselves rather than get modkilled. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
as for mayor, i do feel that yellows methods are very instigative, yet i really dont think hes mafia as hes bound to get checked. (im just praying for his and our sake hes not miller, which would be very ironic, comical but mostly depressing ;_; darth seems a better choice i guess just because it seems hed do everything yellow would but with more regard to the town in general which is would ultimatley lessen mafia influence. seems even less likely a mafia. but it still impotant to be overly suspicious of all candidates. zeks and bb seem to be fading into the background and i havent seen them push their campaigns lately. also mtf's choice of crate is something i would seriously consider and even mtf himself, but i dont want to push them too muvh as 1) its suspicious to back them so suddenly and 2) they both would be VERY dangerous as mafia mayors and likely to fool us. Again just being overly suspicious, not pointing your KTFinger Boom thing at anyone. posting from my phone as im at work and pretty busy, so assume im voting for darth for now, but id like to switch after more speculation. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 04 2010 23:12 bumatlarge wrote: so the soon to be mayor would be lynching either lazer(most likely lynch) and i heard someone say tyranos? doesnt seem to be alot of talk about this but lazer seems best choice, while tyranos would either be a lucky snipe ona cautious mafia or just a waste of smart and latively active townie. otherwise they seem viable choices from the clue perspective. as for mayor, i do feel that yellows methods are very instigative, yet i really dont think hes mafia as hes bound to get checked. (im just praying for his and our sake hes not miller, which would be very ironic, comical but mostly depressing ;_; darth seems a better choice i guess just because it seems hed do everything yellow would but with more regard to the town in general which is would ultimatley lessen mafia influence. seems even less likely a mafia. but it still impotant to be overly suspicious of all candidates. zeks and bb seem to be fading into the background and i havent seen them push their campaigns lately. also mtf's choice of crate is something i would seriously consider and even mtf himself, but i dont want to push them too muvh as 1) its suspicious to back them so suddenly and 2) they both would be VERY dangerous as mafia mayors and likely to fool us. Again just being overly suspicious, not pointing your KTFinger Boom thing at anyone. posting from my phone as im at work and pretty busy, so assume im voting for darth for now, but id like to switch after more speculation. LaXer is an overlapper on the inactives and clues list. TyranoS voted for me without saying much the entire game and is linked (softly) to the clues. Either of them sounds good to me. Well if he's in office he can't get checked out as yes/no for miller - he can't be rolechecked at all. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 04 2010 15:31 LunarDestiny wrote: My support for Yellow Ink is based on the nature of mafia games. That, mafia don't want to be center of attention. Mafia also don't post a lot and write huge paragraphs. Then there is "printer explode" hint that relates to Yellow Ink which inevitably going to be brought up at a point and I want to address it now. We need to be rational here. Would Flamewheel give a hint that is so apparent? Heck he might as well say: "Flamewheel was hit by the lightning as the eclipse passes by." The thing about that is, if you look at Yellow's profile... well, you'll see what I mean. If flamewheel were to make a clue about Yellow, it would have to be linked to "YellowInk" somehow. That or his picture, which is just a guy (could be him iono lol), which is a bit harder to make a clue about. That being said, it is still a bit too obvious but then again, I've never played with clues so I don't know how subtle/not subtle they're supposed to be. On June 04 2010 17:22 LunarDestiny wrote: Also, when asking they did they got the pm from Darth, tell them not to post the actual pm which is illegal in mafia war. LD, this ain't myspace. lol. On June 04 2010 14:50 DCLXVI wrote: My impressions of the candidates: YellowInk: I don't like how he just seems to jump around accusing everyone. He also seems to think that the ink "clue" makes him a perfect candidate: easily cleaned or mafia, which is wrong. I have no idea what he will do in office, but I hope that if he gets a position he does not continue to act like he does now pointing fingers at everyone. Either dumb mafia or hotheaded townie DarthTheinAn: He has had a very neutral opinion on most subjects and has argued peacefully. This has caused many people to believe he is a townie, and he is riding this good vibe to an office. Somewhat suspicious how several people voted for him already, some who have not even explained their reasons for doing so. He seems coolheaded and collected at least, not one to make hasty decisions or jump at people's throats. either calm and cool townie or smart and calm mafia Zeks: Not sure what to think about him. He does not seem to be the most clever of candidates or the most knowledgeable, without a clear idea of how the roles can interact. However, I would rather a scum mayor like him than a scum mayor that can manipulate people well. I want to see how he responds to the recent discussion so I can finish evaluating him. Either inexperienced/uncreative townie or very smart mafia BrownBear: Similar to DTA, but more involved in the arguments with YI and willing to take a stand on things. His late arrival into the campaigning and supporting DTA could be a clever mafia ploy, but I don't think so. I think he doesn't want a mayor like YI and decided to do something about it. either smart townie or mafia I don't like either of my guesses about YI or zeks, but I suppose zeks is the most likely townie. DTA and BB are hard to decide on. I almost want to vote crate or myself, but I fear that will cause more confusion and allow the mafia to get both offices. If no one steps up their campaign though... I think the mayor should lynch TyranoS_NiveK because he already voted DTA, has barely posted, and maybe has a clue related to him. MTF, you think zeks is townie? I think he's definitely suspect. I wouldn't necessarily lynch him because he's been pretty active, but logic early game wasn't great, as YI pointed out several times. Not sayin he's mafia, and he hasn't posted enough to make any absolute judgments, but he's on my "radar". | ||
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ElyAs
France205 Posts
On June 04 2010 23:11 DarthThienAn wrote: to be fair, I told the newbies who didnt know who to pick to vote for themselves rather than get modkilled. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, I just wanted to hear a little bit from jiabung (not that i suspect him, but voting is quite important and almost everyone else has provided some reasons for their voting, so I'd like him to talk a little bit more) | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
as much as i feel darth would be a good mayor, my gut doesnt tell me straight out that darth is townie as much as yellow. excuse my grammar and format, phone posting is very hard -_- | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
I expected to have a huge target on my head once I ran for mayor - and by the looks of it I'm probably not going to get a role due to my mistakes. I'm definitely going to still have a big target over me after the elections are over, but I welcome any rolechecks on me (i hope you guys dont think i'm the godfather now, rofl) I still hope to be mayor however, and if by some miracle I get elected I'll still go with my plan stated (especially the vote-for-lynch day 1) and also listen to the appeals of the town and go by majority. | ||
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onihunter
United States515 Posts
What do you guys think? | ||
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onihunter
United States515 Posts
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
It's good to see a bit of discussion about the candidacy and how people are thinking. Let me just take a moment to put out a few quick responses to some of the things directed my way. @MTF I decided to have a bit of fun with the end-of-post gimmik. I'm not doing it every post since with how much I've been posting it might just get annoying, but it's all in good fun. @deconduo I look forward to your response - we havn't heard much from you this game. However considering your post was about 9 hours ago now, this is putting whatever information you want to present very close to the end of the day. In the future it's really important to get as many of your thoughts out earlier so that people can react and talk about them. @barth It's been said that clues in the day 1 post are often vague or nonexistant. This is a beginners game, so I expect the clues to not be too oblique - but any way you cut it it'd be very risky for me to put myself in the public spotlight like this if I were red. I've previously outlined much more effective strategies I could have chosen if I were mafia. @Zeks It's only viral now because you've posted it!  With respect to lynch targets, I'll put together a list after this so that those people either get more active and get off of it or you'll have an idea of who is likely to be a target tonight.@ElyAs Voting for ones self is commonly equivilant to abstaining which Darth had pointed out earlier. Though jiabung should be more active in thread, too! @bumatlarge If elected, if I'm miller, this is a great victory for the town. Elected positions cannot be role checked (which is why I made my case on that a clue check can provide evidence that I'm clean if necessary - elected positions are not immune to clue checks). All the down side of miller would be negated. With respect to some of the comments going around about people quietly getting on the DTA wagon - I don't feel that this sort of behavior is intrinsically scummy. Yeah, I'm wary of it, but I'm not going to be giving them The Finger for it. My interest at this point is in posting activity. I expect every townie to post and provide content. If you're posting without substance, you will be noticed. If all the townies are posting, the mafia have to choose between these options: not post and get modkilled, post with no substance so I can lynch you, post bad content so I can point it out, or post good content and help the town. Pretty bad options for the scum, eh? To everyone else - please make sure to get your votes in. I'd also advise you to follow the recent trend of talking about why you're voting the way you do. It helps us all get a read on you. | ||
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