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On May 20 2010 03:04 Hesmyrr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about. Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about. Okay, if you insist, let me put it in neutral perspective then. First since there are three recruiters vs one YT recruiter, neutral's chance of becoming YT are much lower than possibility of becoming other faction. If YT manages to grow unabated, it effectively means that everyone not belonging to YT is literally screwed. This demands two strategy: 1) eliminate YT which is likely to become your enemy, or 2) beg for YT to recruit you. This is up to personal choice, but I don't know, I find first idea rather better than second idea. Second YT recruiter is different from normal recruiter in one thing; they can get killed from choosing faction leader, while other three faction does not have to worry about such things. Third Something happened, and YT leader is out. With him revealed chance of his victory decreases dramatically- wow, playing as neutral, it's time to change alliance! Oh wait, you are stuck. Too bad. Even when you are aiming for faction fight, this demonstrates YT is horrible for your individual survival. And if we are going to play as Town, well, getting rid of strongest cult is obv.
I would agree of offing YT first if we were aiming for the "neutral victory", but if not, I could care less.
All the posts I've made so far regarding the YT, are just questions about our current situation. By all means I'm defending them. It's just a funny observation to see so many people jump on the wagon.
*By all means I'm NOT defending them.
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On May 20 2010 03:20 Ace wrote:I mean most people suck at finding scum, why would you even be worried about the YT leader being found? 
Oh, that's why I've never brought this up and am not going there.
Like mentioned in my post above, I just find this situation interesting.
Sheep herd effect?
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On May 20 2010 03:22 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 03:04 Hesmyrr wrote:On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about. On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about. Okay, if you insist, let me put it in neutral perspective then. First since there are three recruiters vs one YT recruiter, neutral's chance of becoming YT are much lower than possibility of becoming other faction. If YT manages to grow unabated, it effectively means that everyone not belonging to YT is literally screwed. This demands two strategy: 1) eliminate YT which is likely to become your enemy, or 2) beg for YT to recruit you. This is up to personal choice, but I don't know, I find first idea rather better than second idea. Second YT recruiter is different from normal recruiter in one thing; they can get killed from choosing faction leader, while other three faction does not have to worry about such things. Third Something happened, and YT leader is out. With him revealed chance of his victory decreases dramatically- wow, playing as neutral, it's time to change alliance! Oh wait, you are stuck. Too bad. Even when you are aiming for faction fight, this demonstrates YT is horrible for your individual survival. And if we are going to play as Town, well, getting rid of strongest cult is obv. I would agree of offing YT first if we were aiming for the "neutral victory", but if not, I could care less. All the posts I've made so far regarding the YT, are just questions about our current situation. By all means I'm defending them. It's just a funny observation to see so many people jump on the wagon.
What neutral victory? My post was specifically addressed to someone who wants to play individually instead of aiming for neutral victory. Your wording seem to dismiss my arguments by classifying it into my neutral policy, and make me suspect you either are budding up for the YT recruitment or has a role that is aligned positively with YT.
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Fuck, I edited my post.
Meant to his quote and edit in a new post.
(*By all means I'm NOT defending them.)
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On May 20 2010 03:26 Hesmyrr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 03:22 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 03:04 Hesmyrr wrote:On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about. On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about. Okay, if you insist, let me put it in neutral perspective then. First since there are three recruiters vs one YT recruiter, neutral's chance of becoming YT are much lower than possibility of becoming other faction. If YT manages to grow unabated, it effectively means that everyone not belonging to YT is literally screwed. This demands two strategy: 1) eliminate YT which is likely to become your enemy, or 2) beg for YT to recruit you. This is up to personal choice, but I don't know, I find first idea rather better than second idea. Second YT recruiter is different from normal recruiter in one thing; they can get killed from choosing faction leader, while other three faction does not have to worry about such things. Third Something happened, and YT leader is out. With him revealed chance of his victory decreases dramatically- wow, playing as neutral, it's time to change alliance! Oh wait, you are stuck. Too bad. Even when you are aiming for faction fight, this demonstrates YT is horrible for your individual survival. And if we are going to play as Town, well, getting rid of strongest cult is obv. I would agree of offing YT first if we were aiming for the "neutral victory", but if not, I could care less. All the posts I've made so far regarding the YT, are just questions about our current situation. By all means I'm defending them. It's just a funny observation to see so many people jump on the wagon. What neutral victory? My post was specifically addressed to someone who wants to play individually instead of aiming for neutral victory. Your wording seem to dismiss my arguments by classifying it into my neutral policy, and make me suspect you either are budding up for the YT recruitment or has a role that is aligned positively with YT.
Sure, if you want to "live" in this game, and survive to the end. Killing YT would also be a good choice just in case they recruited you and made a boo-boo.
Personally, I don't care. I don't have a goal in this game, and surviving till the end is not one of my goals.
It's my fault for reading the game rules so late so I nobody but myself to blame. If anyone wants to take my spot in this game, I would gladly give up my spot.
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Too many typos, argh
That's what happens when you're eating lunch. *)
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On May 20 2010 03:30 Fishball wrote:
It's my fault for reading the game rules so late so I nobody but myself to blame. If anyone wants to take my spot in this game, I would gladly give up my spot.
Wait, why are you bouncing? I don't understand.
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I'm sorry you feel that way.  This setup surprisingly doesn't have that much flexibility in its early game tactics, so yeah as always I will blame Caller for creating a setup which encourages individual play. At least I have no motivation to commit myself to some unknown group led by mysterious leader; this is why I was pushing for the neutrals, but like I said looking at the setup I can see why some people would not like it.
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On May 20 2010 03:37 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 03:30 Fishball wrote:
It's my fault for reading the game rules so late so I nobody but myself to blame. If anyone wants to take my spot in this game, I would gladly give up my spot.
Wait, why are you bouncing? I don't understand.
I'm not bouncing. I'm just saying if anyone else that is interested in playing this current setup, is welcomed to take my spot.
I've mentioned quite a few times since yesterday, the lack of a common "goal" or "loyalty" for the majority of the players. Do-whatever doesn't interest me. The proposal of a neutral victory was indeed interesting, but realistically not viable.
So far, I'm just curious about the YT situation, hence my questions. Hesmyrr has brought up a few good points, so that is pretty much it for now.
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On May 20 2010 03:38 Hesmyrr wrote:I'm sorry you feel that way. This setup surprisingly doesn't have that much flexibility in its early game tactics, so yeah as always I will blame Caller for creating a setup which encourages individual play. At least I have no motivation to commit myself to some unknown group led by mysterious leader; this is why I was pushing for the neutrals, but like I said looking at the setup I can see why some people would not like it.
k modkill it is
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On May 20 2010 03:45 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 03:38 Hesmyrr wrote:I'm sorry you feel that way. This setup surprisingly doesn't have that much flexibility in its early game tactics, so yeah as always I will blame Caller for creating a setup which encourages individual play. At least I have no motivation to commit myself to some unknown group led by mysterious leader; this is why I was pushing for the neutrals, but like I said looking at the setup I can see why some people would not like it. k modkill it is
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Aufhellung a la flamewheel?
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I am so confused right now. What is happening?
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On May 20 2010 03:45 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 03:38 Hesmyrr wrote:I'm sorry you feel that way. This setup surprisingly doesn't have that much flexibility in its early game tactics, so yeah as always I will blame Caller for creating a setup which encourages individual play. At least I have no motivation to commit myself to some unknown group led by mysterious leader; this is why I was pushing for the neutrals, but like I said looking at the setup I can see why some people would not like it. k modkill it is
I'm not afk quitting or anything, just saying if a more passionate player would want to take my spot, I would be happy to abide.
I did sign up for this game, so I'll stick to the end. But if you think its viable to end it for me right here, that would work too.
Up to you.
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On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general.
must've been hard to get a "strong town read" on him...if i just picked some random person from the game list, i would have 85% chance of getting a townie lol
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On May 20 2010 03:51 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 03:45 Caller wrote:On May 20 2010 03:38 Hesmyrr wrote:I'm sorry you feel that way. This setup surprisingly doesn't have that much flexibility in its early game tactics, so yeah as always I will blame Caller for creating a setup which encourages individual play. At least I have no motivation to commit myself to some unknown group led by mysterious leader; this is why I was pushing for the neutrals, but like I said looking at the setup I can see why some people would not like it. k modkill it is I'm not afk quitting or anything, just saying if a more passionate player would want to take my spot, I would be happy to abide. I did sign up for this game, so I'll stick to the end. But if you think its viable to end it for me right here, that would work too. Up to you.
i think korynne wanted to take your spot
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Dude no. I don't want to play, if I wanted to play I would've signed up in the like 5 times I spoke pre-game. xD
I'm throwing myself out there as a replacement person for inactives, so we don't end up with games where inactivity basically decided the result (tons of modkills in flamewheel's game I was in... also we probably would've lost PYP mafia if Zona wasn't inactivity killed xD).
Things like that... I don't really want to play regularly anymore (unless something really awesome comes up) so I'm just kind of offering myself up for replacement service since I'm really active and figured I'd help out however I can.
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By the way, the day is almost over. Everyone should be posting their opinions about who the Radfield should lynch so he have better idea of what to do.
I agree with below post:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 19 2010 19:24 Radfield wrote:We all seem to be assuming that there is a Yellow Turban 'Leader'. This is really all the rules say about the YT's. Show nested quote +
There is also a 4th Party in the form of the Yellow Turbans. They may recruit anybody but faction leaders and Yellow Turbans cannot be recruited. However, if the Yellow Turbans try to recruit a faction leader, they all die.
Nothing at all about a leader, which would kinda make sense if the YT's started with more then 1 person. They're more like mafia, collectively making decisions. Anyways, who at this point is most likely to be a Yellow Turban? I think for starters we should look at the people who are voting for me. Why me? For starters because a bandwagon started up on me, and second because I indicated I would simply vote off whomever was being inactive. No threat at all to a Yellow Turban, and a great place to hide. So lets see who voted for me(minus myself): Johnnyspazz Brownbear Hesmyrr Abenson DarthTheinAn TwoToneTerran Falcynn Last Romantic Tricode Xelin Trezguet Jugan Last Romantic hasn't actually posted in the thread. Darththeinan and TwoToneTerran have contributed basically nothing. I don't really feel like examining the rest, as I'm not particularly motivated to search out the YT's or Faction Leaders at this point. But I think it's likely that there are a couple faction leaders and a couple yellow turbans in this bunch, possibly all of them. Thoughts anyone? Does this seem likely? Or am I reading too much into this?
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DarthThienAn 3
Falcynn 4
Last Romantic 0
Tricode 4
I will agree with death of either one of the above. Opinions?
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Choice would be simple for me. Lynch LR.
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LR will probably just get modkilled, though... I guess since it's first day, we could get away with that, but otherwise why waste a KP on someone who is just going to die anyways?
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On May 20 2010 04:18 BrownBear wrote:
LR will probably just get modkilled, though... I guess since it's first day, we could get away with that, but otherwise why waste a KP on someone who is just going to die anyways?
That's what I thought at first too, but he did voted, so I'm not sure how this works.
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