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On May 19 2010 10:18 BrownBear wrote:
Also, I'm all for killing vile human beings, but the only thing I've said repeatedly all game is "Hay guyz lets kill Yellow Turbans mmk?" Therefore, I really doubt you'd have any issue with that... unless, of course, you were Yellow Turban yourself.
Hahaha, I just realized, instead of calling Scum on people this game, we can simply call them yellow (In the cowardly sense, not the racist sense).
So, sir, unless you want to throw some hard evidence behind your claim that I am a vile human being, you might have just flagged yourself as the Yellow Turban Leader.
Also, I did not know about the RNG at the time of that ONE post. Thanks for clarifying that for me, though!
Man, maybe you're a yellow turban trying to throw suspicion off of yourself! We should just smite you and be done with it!
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On May 19 2010 17:01 Jugan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2010 10:18 BrownBear wrote:
Also, I'm all for killing vile human beings, but the only thing I've said repeatedly all game is "Hay guyz lets kill Yellow Turbans mmk?" Therefore, I really doubt you'd have any issue with that... unless, of course, you were Yellow Turban yourself.
Hahaha, I just realized, instead of calling Scum on people this game, we can simply call them yellow (In the cowardly sense, not the racist sense).
So, sir, unless you want to throw some hard evidence behind your claim that I am a vile human being, you might have just flagged yourself as the Yellow Turban Leader.
Also, I did not know about the RNG at the time of that ONE post. Thanks for clarifying that for me, though! Man, maybe you're a yellow turban trying to throw suspicion off of yourself! We should just smite you and be done with it!
Don't bandwagon my target fag....
Ignore me I'm fucked up as shit right now....Lol....too drunk.
But on a side note...you all are weak...bring the pain.
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Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general.
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BrownBear I think your making it a little bit too obvious that your a Yellow player, tone it down abit and you might just get away unoticed though!
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Radfield
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We all seem to be assuming that there is a Yellow Turban 'Leader'. This is really all the rules say about the YT's.
There is also a 4th Party in the form of the Yellow Turbans. They may recruit anybody but faction leaders and Yellow Turbans cannot be recruited. However, if the Yellow Turbans try to recruit a faction leader, they all die.
Nothing at all about a leader, which would kinda make sense if the YT's started with more then 1 person. They're more like mafia, collectively making decisions.
Anyways, who at this point is most likely to be a Yellow Turban? I think for starters we should look at the people who are voting for me. Why me? For starters because a bandwagon started up on me, and second because I indicated I would simply vote off whomever was being inactive. No threat at all to a Yellow Turban, and a great place to hide.
So lets see who voted for me(minus myself):
Johnnyspazz
Brownbear
Hesmyrr
Abenson
DarthTheinAn
TwoToneTerran
Falcynn
Last Romantic
Tricode
Xelin
Trezguet
Jugan
Last Romantic hasn't actually posted in the thread. Darththeinan and TwoToneTerran have contributed basically nothing. I don't really feel like examining the rest, as I'm not particularly motivated to search out the YT's or Faction Leaders at this point. But I think it's likely that there are a couple faction leaders and a couple yellow turbans in this bunch, possibly all of them. Thoughts anyone? Does this seem likely? Or am I reading too much into this?
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Radfield
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Also, Barth and myheronoob have yet to post
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Why don't people seem to understand that currently it doesn't matter one bit who we vote for if your unaligned.
"Let's root out faction leaders" "Hmmm I think we ought to go for X as they seem Yellow" are all meaningless
Although discussion about who might be what roles is worthwhile for later on.
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On May 19 2010 19:24 Radfield wrote:We all seem to be assuming that there is a Yellow Turban 'Leader'. This is really all the rules say about the YT's. Show nested quote +
There is also a 4th Party in the form of the Yellow Turbans. They may recruit anybody but faction leaders and Yellow Turbans cannot be recruited. However, if the Yellow Turbans try to recruit a faction leader, they all die.
Nothing at all about a leader, which would kinda make sense if the YT's started with more then 1 person. They're more like mafia, collectively making decisions. Anyways, who at this point is most likely to be a Yellow Turban? I think for starters we should look at the people who are voting for me. Why me? For starters because a bandwagon started up on me, and second because I indicated I would simply vote off whomever was being inactive. No threat at all to a Yellow Turban, and a great place to hide. So lets see who voted for me(minus myself): Johnnyspazz Brownbear Hesmyrr Abenson DarthTheinAn TwoToneTerran Falcynn Last Romantic Tricode Xelin Trezguet Jugan Last Romantic hasn't actually posted in the thread. Darththeinan and TwoToneTerran have contributed basically nothing. I don't really feel like examining the rest, as I'm not particularly motivated to search out the YT's or Faction Leaders at this point. But I think it's likely that there are a couple faction leaders and a couple yellow turbans in this bunch, possibly all of them. Thoughts anyone? Does this seem likely? Or am I reading too much into this?
I think you are dead on, it would make sense to try to hide in the crowd. Or just hide by not posting in the thread.
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Btw guys don't forget I'm replacing the first person to be modkilled by inactivity so Radfield if you want to hunt inactives I don't know if you could ask Caller who will be modkilled so you don't end up wasting your efforts.
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On May 19 2010 22:07 Korynne wrote:
Btw guys don't forget I'm replacing the first person to be modkilled by inactivity so Radfield if you want to hunt inactives I don't know if you could ask Caller who will be modkilled so you don't end up wasting your efforts.
you decided to join in the fun? :p we welcome you in advance, though hopefully there won't be the need.
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Radfield
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On May 19 2010 22:07 Korynne wrote:
Btw guys don't forget I'm replacing the first person to be modkilled by inactivity so Radfield if you want to hunt inactives I don't know if you could ask Caller who will be modkilled so you don't end up wasting your efforts.
Yeah, my hope was to get those people who do the bare minimum, and hence don't get modkilled, but still bring nothing to the game.
On May 19 2010 20:10 XeliN wrote:
Why don't people seem to understand that currently it doesn't matter one bit who we vote for if your unaligned.
"Let's root out faction leaders" "Hmmm I think we ought to go for X as they seem Yellow" are all meaningless
Although discussion about who might be what roles is worthwhile for later on.
I totally agree Xelin, but what else is there to do? Gotta talk about something....
At this stage it's a bit like why bother discussing strategy, when tomorrow you all might not be on my team and you might use my strategy against me or my new teammates?
But, my goal this game is to have maximum fun, so for me that means playing 100% for whatever team I'm on, even if it screws me later on. Other people will probably play differently, and that's fine too. For now though, I'm anti-YTs, because it seems like they are likely the strongest at this point.
As far as roles in the game:
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There are also other roles in the game among the Prefects, such as alignment checkers, role detectors, assassins, and more.
On top of these three, I would guess may be a medic of some sort, very likely some KP out there in non-assassin form, possibly some people who are immune to NK or 'lynches', BM's role which seems like he dies if people give their armies to him(worst power ever). I don't know what else, anyone have any additional hunches?
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On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general.
Strong Town read.
Town read.
Town.
What town?
Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game?
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On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game?
From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying.
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On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying.
You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys.
I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because.
If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about.
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Well...It's probably because they keep their recruits...that's kinda scary...But if they recruit me then I guess I would have to be the best yellow turban I can be, right?
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Well, yeah, YT are not BAD per se... but the imba-ness of their ability to keep their recruits that's drawing the ire of people right now.
Also, lol at everyone who thinks I'm the YT leader.
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On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about.
On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about.
Okay, if you insist, let me put it in neutral perspective then.
First since there are three recruiters vs one YT recruiter, neutral's chance of becoming YT are much lower than possibility of becoming other faction. If YT manages to grow unabated, it effectively means that everyone not belonging to YT is literally screwed. This demands two strategy: 1) eliminate YT which is likely to become your enemy, or 2) beg for YT to recruit you. This is up to personal choice, but I don't know, I find first idea rather better than second idea.
Second YT recruiter is different from normal recruiter in one thing; they can get killed from choosing faction leader, while other three faction does not have to worry about such things.
Third Something happened, and YT leader is out. With him revealed chance of his victory decreases dramatically- wow, playing as neutral, it's time to change alliance! Oh wait, you are stuck. Too bad.
Even when you are aiming for faction fight, this demonstrates YT is horrible for your individual survival. And if we are going to play as Town, well, getting rid of strongest cult is obv.
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On May 20 2010 03:04 Hesmyrr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about. Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 01:41 Fishball wrote:On May 20 2010 01:31 LunarDestiny wrote:On May 20 2010 00:39 Fishball wrote:On May 19 2010 17:50 Bill Murray wrote:
Everyone who is voting their armies to me, I *IMPLORE* you to shift your armies to hesmyrr. Trust my read on this one. I have a strong town read on him, and I would not make that good of a general. Strong Town read. Town read. Town. What town? Also, reading the posts from some of you guys, when did YT became the "bad" guys in this game? From my understanding, YT aren't bad, they are just imba. The bad guys are the ones who are constantly lying. You don't get my point, I'm not talking about who is and who isn't the bad guys. I'm just questioning what is the point/purpose of picking on the YT first. The majority of the players, neutrals, currently doesn't belong to any faction. It's like some players wants to pick on the YT right now just because. If you've read any of my previous post, you should know what I'm talking about. Okay, if you insist, let me put it in neutral perspective then. First since there are three recruiters vs one YT recruiter, neutral's chance of becoming YT are much lower than possibility of becoming other faction. If YT manages to grow unabated, it effectively means that everyone not belonging to YT is literally screwed. This demands two strategy: 1) eliminate YT which is likely to become your enemy, or 2) beg for YT to recruit you. This is up to personal choice, but I don't know, I find first idea rather better than second idea. Second YT recruiter is different from normal recruiter in one thing; they can get killed from choosing faction leader, while other three faction does not have to worry about such things. Third Something happened, and YT leader is out. With him revealed chance of his victory decreases dramatically- wow, playing as neutral, it's time to change alliance! Oh wait, you are stuck. Too bad. Even when you are aiming for faction fight, this demonstrates YT is horrible for your individual survival. And if we are going to play as Town, well, getting rid of strongest cult is obv.
This. Sure, if YT reaches a certain point, they are pretty much guaranteed victory, but playing the odds of YT actually reaching that point is a terrible idea for individual players. You have a very small chance of being on the YT team if they reach that point, and if you get recruited and they get targeted and found out, you are screwed, no way around it.
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On May 20 2010 02:17 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Well...It's probably because they keep their recruits...that's kinda scary...But if they recruit me then I guess I would have to be the best yellow turban I can be, right?
On May 20 2010 03:01 BrownBear wrote:
Well, yeah, YT are not BAD per se... but the imba-ness of their ability to keep their recruits that's drawing the ire of people right now.
Also, lol at everyone who thinks I'm the YT leader.
I know that they get to keep their recruits, but there should be only a couple of situations that one would be against the YT; Either your a leader of a certain faction, or you just hate playing for the YT (Like some people hate Wei/Shu/Wu).
Seems like a lot of people are just having blind hate for the YT right now.
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I mean most people suck at finding scum, why would you even be worried about the YT leader being found? 
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