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On May 16 2010 15:09 Jugan wrote: lol how did i screw a game up? the game i got modkilled in i pretty much knew who the mafia was lol no i mean screw it up in a good way that is exciting and awesome like a screwdriver or a screwball | ||
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"7. Majority voting is not in effect." explanation on this please | ||
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Give me your armies, as I can think rationally at the moment due to not having any obligations with school (I got 4 As this semester). I know one of these people are the likeliest to be the leader of the yellow turbans which we need to ELIMINATE EARLY. It is IMPERATIVE we do so. Though I hate Cao Cao with a passion, and am not a fan, I am more than willing to put aside this petty rivalry to unite the land against this incoming force of destruction. I will detail a few points that make me a good choice for being the person you give your armies to: 1) I will always listen to you. 2) the role that I have is non-threatening to the town as of right now a) This enables me to devote my will 100% into killing the yellow turbans b) After I will move on to other faction leaders if I am successful in doing this c) the game will be much cleaner and easier to follow if we kill the yellow turbans 3) I promise to put my heart into this game, but to think rationally a) this will enable me to not make mistakes . i will not be inactive as i want to win with my heart . i will not flame as i'm going to be thinking rationally b) this is reason why you should vote to donate to me . together we will win through the chaos i will cause . you KNOW what you're getting with me Leaders of Factions other than Yellow Turbans, please read: DO NOT ROLECLAIM. | ||
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On May 18 2010 07:06 Trezeguet23 wrote: Bill Murray and who? Also I think bill is saying that he has not ability other than being able to be recuited. I have no special abilities. I can donate armies, or be donated to (as far as I know). I am not too sure on the wording Caller used, and I pmed him about something, but he is yet to verify. As soon as he verifies I will verify with you all. | ||
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Caller is being VERY unhelpful in clarifying my role PM Giving me your armies may kill you, so do not do so. I will also not be able to give my armies to anyone without them being at risk of dying. Like I said, I am not sure of my role PM. I will let you vote for me to give my armies to someone. There is the chance that me giving my armies to them will be detrimental/will lead to them dying; however, as I have already implied, I am not sure of this. Caller was very vague and even said "lalalala" to me. As it is right now, though, we should vote as if me giving my army is a suicide/day vig, so vote on who you want me to subject my armies upon. | ||
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Highly Likely L, BloodyC0bbler Pretty Likely: Fishball OpZ Moderately Likely: Scamp, Maybe even Radfield | ||
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"1. Voting is done in a separate thread, to be created once the game starts." ???? | ||
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I am therefore going to vote for L, who will then probably lynch me this will work out for the best for everyone. thank you, bill | ||
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"This strikes me as a Leaderish sort of talk. Why you ask?" I'll tell you why. Because he is the yellow turban leader, and is fishing to see if Radfield is potentially on his side without him dying (yellow turbans obviously can't recruit leaders). Radfield gives him the advantage in two ways: 1) he is currently swaying the army voting and has power 2) he is a smart, good, solid player who would be a practical addition to BloodyC0bbler's turbans. L has been quiet, and really not posting as much (wanting to stay out of the fray) until I mentioned his name at all. I am surprised people are not donating their armies to a veteran, and are donating to a "new" player "who has played well in the past" in Radfield, who is my 3rd suspect in reasons I will be giving after this is finished on L. L may just be busy living it up (as it's a great time of year), and we can hold him accountable if he doesn't "come out of his blue shell". I would suggest him as a secondary target for "who is a faction leader we need to kill" He is likely Cao Cao in my opinion. Radfield is a little harder to pin, and my reasoning is because of the past success of "good, new players" in getting roles. I gave Korynne a spot in the mafia in my LAMM, and citi.zen has been elected to become mafia in a few games since his success. Hell, flamewheel even let me have a shot. What I'm getting at is Radfield could potentially be Sun Quan or Liu Bei (though I kind of doubt it). Trust me on this one, BloodyC0bbler would be a good lynch for us in terms of balancing the game and lowering the skill ceiling for us relatively noob players. He is most definitely a power role, and is the player I would deem "most likely to be leading the yellow turbans" based NOT ONLY upon his being a good player who is favored but ALSO upon his posting fishing for information out of Radfield. Whoever is elected, I implore you to consider lynching BC. | ||
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the wording BC used in talking to radfield is a dead giveaway of him fishing for information on leaders the main reason we need worry that he could be doing that is because he is the yellow turban leader i will admit that it is a necessity for people to do that from every player slot. it would also be in your benefit to lie, L, about the method he used to pick. based upon my character, though, i can GUARANTEE he handpicked roles. | ||
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i have been getting pms, so as that is legal, feel free to pm me i will reply when i have more time and have refreshed up on my knowledge of the topics being discussed | ||
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On May 19 2010 05:16 Abenson wrote: Announcement: I don't care about anything right now. and so should you (not care) Why? We are not really part of any clan/army right now, and therefore there is no point to us trying to do anything at all. Eliminating the Yellows sounds like a good plan, but it doesn't really benefit us. We, as regular townies, don't care about the politics right now Therefore I will simply un-vote and watch what happens (and occasionally spam) lol, owned On May 19 2010 06:08 Hesmyrr wrote: Okay, guys. This is critical. The fact you don't even know which side you are working for - and I promise you nobody but YT will inform the "victim" of their target - is highly disadvantageous for us neutrals. Hell, you may be playing game as usual when BAM! faction leader being an idiot gets himself killed, and who suffers for it? Us! Do you want to suffer such ignominy? I tell you not! Eighteen other neutrals listening to my voice, ponder my speech. I will tell you of an way out. We will rebel against the injustice and wrestle control of the game out of these so-called leader's grasps. I propose... NEUTRAL REVOLUTION Take note of the winning condition Caller has listed: You know what this means? Even when there is one faction leader remaining, as long as he doesn't overwhelm us, he can't win. Let's pull a Battler and turn around the chessboard. What do you see? I see a four cult game, with us neutrals as Townies. Let me stress that. OUR PRIORITY AS NEUTRALS IS TO HUNT DOWN THE FOUR FACTION LEADERS, AND KILL THEM ALL. THEN IT WILL BE "TOWN" VICTORY, SINCE NEUTRALS (TOWN) IS THE ONLY FACTION REMAINING. This plan is beneficial for all of us, this is the plan that makes sense, and this is EXACTLY what we should be doing. Neutrals, we are no longer neutrals. We are now comrades fighting for mutual victory, struggling against the tyranny of the cults awaiting us. Hereby I dedicate myself into finding, and killing, all the leader in this game. Who agrees with me?!?!? Very good post, Hes. I will be voting for you if I'm alive unless something changes. On May 19 2010 06:32 BrownBear wrote: I see it as less of a four-cult game, and more of a two-stage game, since one cult is obviously much more powerful than the other three. I completely agree with Brownbear here. We definitely would benefit from eliminating the yellow turbans early. On May 19 2010 07:53 L wrote: Are people intentionally being idiots? Does a bear shit in the woods? I would like to stress that BloodyC0bbler is a great target to be the yellow turban leader. | ||
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there are probably 4 faction leaders, so I am assuming at least 3 of them can give armies. Unless I am missing something, L has yet to give his armies to anyone or keep them for himself. Could it possibly be that he CAN'T? Perhaps that's a flaw, besides the one of them all dying when they try to recruit Cao Cao, of being the yellow turban leader. Since they get the advantage of not being able to be recruited, they need something to counter-balance it a bit more. Perhaps it's that their armies are automatically donated for the yellow turban cause. This could explain why L has yet to donate his armies: He is the yellow turban leader. Unless he clarifies his position on this, or donates his army, I will be very suspicious of him | ||
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On May 20 2010 05:21 Fishball wrote: I don't feel like pulling the reading comprehension card again from Mini Mafia-1... Read again, I never said "I don't want". I didn't understand your wording, which is why I asked On May 20 2010 05:22 Tricode wrote: I some how doubt that, but I don't care really. I'm just gonna go along with the ride until the game solidifies more and contribute as best as I can to me winning or w/e faction I'm in by force. No, dude, you're good. You weren't even being discussed, really, and then you came out with a good post that you didn't even need to do to survive. If someone picked you to lynch it would be a party foul now. The fact that you're being actively lurking combined with a willingness to post when called out turns you from looking like a mafia member to looking like (and no offense here) a noob town player who is trying to soak in how to play properly. If you're wanting to play properly in the style you seem to be taking on for yourself, watch how L plays. You yourself admitted you didn't want to do much in this day 1. Another good person to see is foolishness when he's mafia. He might not post at all on day 1 really. | ||
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On May 20 2010 05:24 L wrote: You realized he made a big post to say "I've been inactive, but I'm also going to be inactive in the future" and you're taking that as a sign that he's active? ... ok. his opinion of inactiveness i took to mean actively lurking | ||
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On May 20 2010 05:33 Fishball wrote: Ok, so I didn't quote your entire line, so just reply exactly to what I quoted, great. You already made a conclusion in your head by saying you were disappointed at me. Your question afterwards isn't exactly a question. If you were to word your statement as a question, you should have said, "Don't you want a victory for the neutrals? If not, I would be disappointed in you." Not the other way around. MY saying "IM DISSAPOINTED IN YOU" is because in the past 2 pages you've been a crybaby asking for a modkill. My disappointment is not from the fact that you're not seeking an unlikely win condition. Sorry that you inferred incorrectly. That's why I ask questions. | ||
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On May 20 2010 05:44 Hesmyrr wrote: @Bill Murray That means nothing. I specifically pointed out this four people to see what would happen; I believe faction leaders will be more interested in keeping himself alive rather than uninterested Townie. This is why I removed all those who voted in wrong format from my current suspicion list- faction leaders, while lurking, are more likely to pay attention to development of the game. Hell, if you are faction leader, and you are being targeted, would you pop up or just lurk? Also "waiting for something to happen" could be convenient excuse; he can keep actively lurking for quite a while, saying "lol I'm not recruited yet" when someone points this out. I would pop up just like L did. | ||
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i am against picking someone new. why would we give our armies to someone new when radfield is 1/1? doesn't make sense to me. it's like not passing the ball back to someone when you're shooting around with a basketball after they make a 3 pointer. you just don't do it. you all are more than welcome to not give him the lynch ability again, but like i said i'm going to be voting radfield unless something changes. am glad to see lunardestiny thinking, especially considering we were on the verge of lynching him. On May 20 2010 14:18 johnnyspazz wrote: ok ill let you know if i'm still neutral by the end of tonight cause i want to kill someone for fun what are you implying? is this a softclaim of a vig role? speak up johnny u can't lead us on and not deliver. | ||
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i was under the influence that the last recruitment would go through, but i believe they all cancel | ||
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On May 21 2010 07:45 Korynne wrote: I don't suppose Last Romantic's death post would be considered revealing game information now would it? xP What does Bill think? Given that you don't seem happy with your bans. =P not touching that shit with a 10-foot-pole | ||
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On May 21 2010 09:06 Trezeguet23 wrote: I'm stalking this thread hardcore, I hope the morn brings good news. Hope the new day brings new beginnings. told u hes an active lurker L | ||
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"if I had good analysis on someone, it doesn't really benefit me, or anyone else who is neutral, to share it." how does it not help? knowledge is power, and i guarantee we neutrals outnumber everyone | ||
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On May 21 2010 12:03 ~OpZ~ wrote: Oh yea. I would claim to of lost my powers because of Diao Chan's death if I wasn't Lu Bu. Anyone care to counter claim? Cao Cao is dead already, Diao Chan being killed f'd me over (which I didn't even know it would!), and now I'm powerless, not to mention painting a MASSIVE target on myself by role claiming Lu Bu (if I was lying). So yea....It's w/e. I'd prefer killing someone else. Also, as far as I know, I'm still neutral. So lets find another faction leader. I'ma get some food, then scour some posts. i didn't catch your claim. refresh me on it please. this reminds me of some of the shit caller was doing when he himself was scummy in WaW. On May 21 2010 12:37 Tricode wrote: I will first off explain myself, in the last mafia game I played Mafia XV, L was a godfather and I was a regular townie. His style of playing this game reminded me of that game. So noticing this I decided to do a check on him and well L turned out to have the exact same abilities as LAST ROMANTIC 2 Night lives and ability to recruit!!!. As LunarDestiny guessed, I'm basically a DT. I can't deny it cause there would be no other way to explain how I gained this information with out being dishonest and then having the town kill me later on. The fact that I bring this information to you should be proof enough to show you all that I know who is a faction leader or otherwise I would be killed really fast by night abilities or the town themselves! We must take down L before he decides to recruit more of you! Otherwise now that we publicly know he is a Faction Leader, he will likely die by other faction leaders or the town, later on, and everyone he recruits will follow him to his grave! So an ask of you to give me your armies and let me lay L TO REST! So we may prevail! I agree that he probably has a power role. The problem here is that THERE ARE MANY POWER ROLES. On May 21 2010 12:52 Tricode wrote: Except the part that I know your abilities and if i die you are next to be killed when it is shown who I am. Face it L you're a faction leader and I know your abilities. You can't talk your way out of it. Cause if i die you will be the next target. Faction leaders know now and the town. You're going to die, better sooner then later. Proof will be shown when you're dead and/or if I die. I say we don't waste time and give L the chance to recruit more people! BTW I have no group other then the town who wants to kill faction leaders. I think it's a fun idea if we can kill all of you and the town wins. > So unless you're telling me the town is raging that a medic protected you (which they probably had no idea you were a FACTION LEADER L. Just accept your death like a man! Why are you so worried about faction leaders when the fucking YTs are up in this? You are probably the Yellow Turban leader. On May 21 2010 13:05 Tricode wrote: Except the fact whether I die or not you will follow or prove my innocents. I don't think we should give you a chance to recruit more and you keep bringing up YT? I Don't know which faction you're in but since you really like trying to put the YT on me like how you try to put mafia on innocent people in Mafia XV, I can only guess you're really the YT leader [yellow]L[/yellow]. Everyone know [yellow]L[/yellow] is trying to escape this and will constantly try to aim at escape goats! Don't give him this chance. He will constantly lie and save himself till the vary end! Don't let this chance get away or otherwise you will be recruited in [yellow]L'sYellow Turban Faction[/yellow] and other faction leaders or others who will realize L's lie will eventually kill him and those who he recruited! Let's not sacrifice more neutral townies to [yellow]L[/yellow]! Give me your armies and let us kill him and we will have another [yellow]Faction Leader[/yellow] killed! Just because you try to turn his name yellow doesnt mean it will be. I'm done with this guy. I'm ignoring everything you post Tricode. | ||
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On May 21 2010 13:13 L wrote: But you won't prove anything because you're going to flip YT. YT doesn't give a shit if they sacrifice one of their chumps to secure a lynch because they're 2 people ahead, maybe more if they can do that. You forget that I know you're lying. Like, flat out, 100% certain. I also know that because you're lying, you're probably YT. Lets look at how the day started; you go "i have a leader" for some reason. You don't just flat out go "I checked L and he's a Leader". You try to finesse your way into office. Someone goes "ok" and you're like "YO GUY, 100% I KNOW". When it becomes obvious that no one's going to trust you straight up, you lie outright and target me. Or rather, you probably thought it wasn't a lie because of the vig hit. And you figured that you'd be cleared as a DT if you were right. But sadly if i hadn't been saved by a medic, I'd be dead, and you'd be happy just the same. So yeah, pretty obvious ruse. Nice try with the yellow lettering though. The way L is playing feels like he has a power role and that he is stepping into the spotlight as town. I want everyone to trust my read on this, and if you're neutral and voted Radfield with me last time (i'm sad barth isn't around because he trusted me), vote for L this time. I'm going to catch up on the rest of the thread and give a synopsis. | ||
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On May 22 2010 02:48 L wrote: Wait, so I was visited by like 4 people last night? What the fuck is this. would be funny if you had OpZ power of killin intruders lol | ||
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Also Caller has a habit of telling DT's the answer to their question as soon as he gets it. Don't forget that...(Not that I would ever accuse Caller of such grievous actions, but I got the answers in red army two instantly...Lol)" i do that myself as a mod. well, i did in my first game. bad habit in retrospect that i will hopefully break. | ||
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On May 22 2010 03:51 flamewheel91 wrote: I'm laughing inside. i'm not trying to be an ass here, but i feel like your bookmarks and quips like this give away information and i would like for you to stop please | ||
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On May 22 2010 03:54 Falcynn wrote: In most mafia games, if a DT is insane, they usually aren't notified of it and have to figure it out themselves (and considering that caller games seem to have a reputation of being ridiculous, it doesn't surprise me that it wouldn't be mentioned anywhere if this happens to be the case). But yeah, I'm rereading the thread while checking for new posts here. I'll second this. Sometimes you aren't even notified AFTER the game. On May 22 2010 03:55 L wrote: And here's where I get to say "I told you so". I'm quite happy that a bunch of people have outed themselves with lies for no benefit. Gan Bei, motherfuckers. yeah, well, i was all for killing tricode before he even claimed anything. On May 22 2010 03:57 Falcynn wrote: Also DT's aren't pointless if sanity isn't mentioned anywhere. You just have to hold onto your reports for 2-3 days and try not to get killed until you know for sure what you are. Although I'm probably arguing a meaningless point, I'm just a bit put off by the fact that you're trying to get people to follow you without even acknowledging that there are other concerns/possible factors. this theory makes me want to give someone who is dt and noob the benefit of the doubt if they get 1 wrong. if they check a neutral and they come up off what they were when they're lynched they're going to know the next time and can nearly prove it and clear their name if they pick up on their sanity. if the kid is insane or paranoid or whatever couldn't they both be telling the truth? | ||
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if you are a tracker we can confirm this | ||
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there's no question about it if you are a tracker it is very awesome for the town if medics protect correctly | ||
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my ability is that im a terrible general | ||
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On May 22 2010 08:36 BrownBear wrote: Exactly. I would say that, unless we get 1 or 2 more recruiters soon, the metagame is going to switch somewhere around day 4 from "neutrals vs. factions" to "factions vs. factions, with neutrals as the pawns." Also, since Abenson can only kill YT players, apparently, we would want to have him target people we think are Yellow Turbans? Or does he just have a straight nightkill that got blocked by you? Either way, my plan is to hit L tonight. And it looks like I'm going to be winning the dayvote, I think, so now is the time for people to start posting who they want me to kill. Right now, I'm assuming it's Tricode, since that will tell us a lot about L, and whether he's lying or not, but if people (besides Tricode, you don't get to have a say anymore) have a convincing argument for someone else I'm listening. I expect him to be roleblocked quite frequently or to get modkilled in all honesty. We're talking about Abenson.... Abenson. Not a good player, Abenson. On May 22 2010 08:46 Trezeguet23 wrote: I am Cao Pi son of Cao Cao. I kill a leader other than cao cao if they attempt to recruit me. I was told who LR was before the game and he knew who I was, but I was not yet a part of the clan. But on the 4th night I would be recruited automatically to blue. That was supposed to be the blue advantage I think. My Edit was to remove the Chinese characters that didn't go in right, blah, computer sucks I don't believe you at all. On May 22 2010 08:57 BrownBear wrote: Yeah, you posted that while I was typing, saw it after I posted >< So, to shut Tricode up, I'm also going to say this: I am planning to hit L tonight. If he is a faction leader, though, he has two lives, so I think to be completely safe about this, anyone else who has nightkilling powers should also target L tonight. This way, we ensure he dies, and what he flips as tells us important information. If he lives through the night, that tells us nothing and we've wasted another day. Therefore, if you have a nightkill and are reading this, PLEASE target L with it. How can you be so sure people haven't been lying? I feel like this thread is full of bull. On May 22 2010 09:18 Scamp wrote: Well see this is the problem. Now both L and Tricode are lying, are very assuming, or you are lying. If what you say is true then no medic should have PMed L and said he protected him. Tricode wouldn't have gotten a 2 night life result. I guess a medic could have PMed L telling him he was protected, even though I can't see a good reason for a medic to do that. Tricode could have some kind of vigi power and just assumed L has two night lives, but that's kind of oddly specific. Why not say he can't be killed by a vig? I would assume all faction leaders would have that power, otherwise vigs are game-breaking. All I know for sure is that I want them all dead. Again, if we think Tricode is a YT then there is no assurance that Abenson will be able to kill him, or even choose to do so. That's not a waste of a lynch at all. Considered that Caller makes actions go through in the order that people send them in? Not saying he does this, but it would explain a lot. On May 22 2010 09:31 L wrote: Wait, what? Factions can come back from death even if we kill their leader? How the fuck is a neutral victory even remotely possible if factions start reforming around day 3-4? This is fucking horrendous. I don't like that either (unless somehow I win because of it) On May 22 2010 09:42 L wrote: As much as I will likely die unless the same 7 person clusterfuck happens again, I'd prefer if neutrals won because then its a moral victory for me. Strange wording, L. Care to explain the difference between a moral victory and an actual victory? On May 22 2010 10:12 L wrote: BC's a better target than he is if you want to take a shot at a leader. I completely agree. BC is a good target, and is in line with his blue-play. hahahahahahah gold On May 22 2010 11:25 BrownBear wrote: Alright, one more post. Dammit, I'm addicted tot his game Here's what happened, roughly: Tricode claims he rolechecked L, and saw that L has recruitment powers A lot of people jump on this bandwagon Hesmyrr then counters, with evidence. He can block anything from happening to one person at night, including rolechecks. He proves himself trustworthy. The town gets very pissed at Tricode, because Tricode has now lied, making him very scummy. Decisions get made. One is that I will handle today's daykill, so vote for me, and argue for who you want to kill. The other decision (something we should have done the first day), is that everyone MUST post their name in the thread. They can post their role if they wish, but if they feel uncomfortable doing so, just a name will suffice. This is to root out the faction leaders, as they will have to lie about their name, and stand a chance of getting caught. Them's the basics. Everything else is basically debate (you should read the entire thing, though, because this is a VERY basic overview and you'll miss out on a lot of stuff). So, to throw suspicion off yourself, do these things! 1. Read the entire thread 2. Post at least your name, and your role if you feel comfortable doing so (if you do not, that's totally cool and doesn't cast suspicion on you). 3. Do some analysis! Post who you think is likely to be a faction leader. Our goal is to kill another with the dayvote if at all possible. 4. If you agree with me handling the dayvote, vote for me in the vote thread. If you don't, vote for someone else, and state the reason why. Don't forget Hesmyrr was the most obvious town player day 1. I even said that in the thread, and endorsed him. If L is a faction leader, it would be fairly obvious that he could recruit Hesmyrr. This could explain why Hesmyrr would come out and counter Tricode's claim. My vote is to kill Tricode for being an idiot. Also, does anyone have a list of Player Name - Character Name - Claimed Role? That would be helpful as fuck to the town. On May 22 2010 11:34 LunarDestiny wrote: Hesmyrr, what ever you do please do not roleblock on Tricode or L since On May 23 2010 04:46 Jugan wrote: But I'm just a puppet! I do what people tell me! I can't even open a door by myself! Why? What's your nameclaim Jugan my man? Also, this whole situation with Hesmyrr and L is making me consider starting to read Tricode's posts again. | ||
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On May 23 2010 19:47 DarthThienAn wrote: [/b]1. Bill Murray yuan shao 2. Hesmyrr Action Blocker Lu Xun 3. johnnyspazz Zhang Liao 4. Radfield Zhuge Liang 5. Scamp Guan Yu 6. Ohn 7. Falcynn Sima Yi 8. Iaaan Successor if Recruited Cao Pi 10. BloodyCobbler Huang Gai 11. MyHeroNoob Able to desert Meng Huo 12. Xelin Roleblocking Jian Wei 13. BrownBear Vigilante Zhao Yun 14. Tricode Role Cop Lu Meng 15. TwotoneTerran Ma Chao 16. Abenson YT Killer Taishi Ci 17. ~Opz~ No Role Lu Bu 19. Trezequet23 Kills any leader who tries to recruit him Cao Pi 20. Fishball Able to desert Meng Huo AND Qin Shi Huang 21. Lunardestiny Xu Zhu 23. DarthThienAn zhou yu 24. Jugan Zhang Fei Let's hope this works. remember to add my ability: if put into a fight I will most likely lose (bad general) I also have another ability, but it is very minor and cute, nothing game-breaking whatsoever. I am going to bed, and have a class tomorrow for an hour at 5pm est | ||
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On May 25 2010 11:46 BrownBear wrote: Also, Abenson, you're [/QUOTE] | ||
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On May 23 2010 20:30 Bill Murray wrote: remember to add my ability: if put into a fight I will most likely lose (bad general) I also have another ability I am going to bed, and have a class tomorrow for an hour at 5pm est I am a busdriver. Last night, I bussed Trezequet23 with Scamp as a result of a plan I had with Jugan. Scamp must be the YT leader. I am affiliated with noone yet, or haven't been told that I've been recruited by Caller. You can kill me if you all don't trust me, as I am completely oblivious to caring the way this game has gone. I really want a neutral victory, so you can kill me to figure out that I'm not lying to you. We need to cut off the head of this beast by getting rid of Scamp. The only way that this should be wrong is if Scamp and Trez are both YT, but I'm 100% sure Scamp is the YT leader if the night has gone the way I am understanding it to have gone. You all really really really need to believe me on this. The way I've understood this to have gone they are both YT, but Scamp NOT Trez is the leader. | ||
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"Okay, so I'll tell you who else is with us sort of. We have 2 brothers and I am 1. we are the two brothers. we have a head head player that we don't know of. okay, so night 1, both me and the other brother got to recruit, but from now on we only get one between us. the head head gets to recruit, too. We recruited you and myheronoob but myheronoob doesn't trust us. Since there is a lack of trust I will reveal everyone on our team except the other brother, and the leader. sound fair? Hope so. There problem is that there is no way to prove to someone that they have been recruited as of right now. So I can't confirm to mhn that he is infact now yt, blah." | ||
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Trez PMed me stating that he was a "brother" , and that I was recruited, and much like Tricode I was kept in the dark a lot. I bussed Trez with Scamp last night, thinking I would be helping my faction. Although I'm not sure at all what faction I'm in, I wanted to keep him out of dodge last night just in case he wasn't lying. Therefore, if Trez came up with recruitment powers, it is because Scamp has them. If Scamp does not come back as it then Caller must be fucking with me, or Tricode is lying. It is that simple. Here is the plan: 1)We kill Scamp with the daylynch, as he will have 2 night lives 2)We kill Trez using Abenson (assuming Abenson isn't YT or wants neutral to win) he wont have two lives in the night, as there is no possible way that he is the YT leader because of my bus. 3) If this scenario isn't cleared up we lynch whoever has been lying to us (likely tricode, trez, scamp) IMPORTANT As Abenson isn't "cleared", which makes me suspect Fishball, I say we give our armies to Radfield. | ||
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why the hell would i make this up | ||
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On May 25 2010 18:55 Scamp wrote: Well I know that I am not the YT leader, or any leader for that matter, so there is something wrong with your plan. Can you please show the PM that Trez sent you stating that he was a "brother"? I'm not even sure that Tricode checked Trez and saw two night lives. He does seem to post to that effect, but I'd like to hear him explicitly say so. Lastly, what is up with you listing me for step 3? You're not only implying that I can survive a day lynch, but also that I have some sort of lie in this whole ordeal. I personally think you're lying about bus driving. I want to know exactly what the effect says it does in your role PM. I also want to know who you bus drove during the first night. Not to mention Yuan Shao is an iffy claim in the first place. also why did you question my claiming yuan shao lord of the north? | ||
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On May 25 2010 19:13 XeliN wrote: Ok BillMurray DID NOT Bus anyone as he was roleblocked, ignore his claim. oh, shit i forgot about that that would make sense then as to why i would think it was scamp when it wasn't sorry scamp, i guess that clarifies things | ||
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to be honest, the proper thing to do is to roleblock him and nightkill him we should use our lynch to try and get the actual leader i KNOW he isn't the leader, he is one of the 2 they started with His claim to me in a PM: they started 1 leader 2 brothers the brothers got to pick to recruit night 1, but get to recruit 1 they vote on nightly now, with members other than the leader "Hey, so kind of obvious, but think about who we are recruiting next, you get an equal vote, hope we don't split 2-2 or 1-1-1-1." the leader gets to recruit every night excluded from this trez doesn't even know who the leader himself is, only who the other brother is killing trez will not stop the YT menace, as it will not be cutting the head off. they will still get 2 recruits a night. that's one thing we can be SURE of. Since we need to kill the leader, and he only gets to vote with 1 other brother on who to recruit, we would only be limiting We need to find the actual leader, not lynch trez. | ||
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On May 25 2010 19:21 Scamp wrote: I question the claim of Yuan Shao because he is a prominent figure, no doubt, but his role in the events of history were before the era of the three kingdoms. I'm curious, though. You did not receive notification that you were roleblocked? Because I also missed it if it was said earlier that you were roleblocked. i was not notified of being roleblocked | ||
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Subject: mafiya Date: May 24 2010 07:55 busdrive trez and scamp | ||
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On May 25 2010 19:38 XeliN wrote: tbh I swear your lying, this game doesn't even make sense theme wise to have a role such as Bus Driver.. he didn't name it, he just gave me a (hint, hint) you can swap player A and player B | ||
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Date: 5/25/10 19:41 I legitimately did Roleblock you and if you have actually been reading the thread it ought be fairly obvious I am not lying about my ability. The only thing I could be lying about is whether I actually Roleblocked someone else but am pretending to have Blocked you to get you lynch or have your claims made less credible." | ||
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On May 25 2010 19:46 XeliN wrote: LOL Bill, if your going to quote the PM I just sent you at least have the decency to do so in it's entirety. dirty of you to add onto that foul play | ||
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1 LEADER 2 BROTHERS THEY RECRUIT 2 PER NIGHT LEADER PICKS 1 PLAYER 2 BROTHERS + RECRUITS THEY TRUST VOTE ON 2ND PLAYER BROTHERS = 2 NIGHT LIVES Though he came back with 2 night lives and the ability to recruit (through voting), killing Trez will be a mistake in that it will not set them back as much as you think. Lets do the math on this following your plan: On May 11 2010 06:08 Caller wrote: Signups: 3. johnnyspazz 4. Radfield 5. Scamp 6. Ohn 7. Falcynn 8. Iaaan 9. 10. BloodyCobbler 11. MyHeroNoob 12. Xelin 13. BrownBear 15. TwotoneTerran 16. Abenson 17. ~Opz~ 18. 20. Fishball 21. Lunardestiny 22. 23. DarthThienAn 16 people left. 1 brother, 1 yt leader + 2 recruits next night = 4 people 1 green leader + bodyguard(abenson?) + night 1 night 2 night 3 recruits = 5 people 7 townies then the next night = 4 townies, 6 green, 6 YT The "neutral victory" is still very fucking far away The YT are at a disadvantage, and the town needs to protect them, as they can't afford to recruit the green leader. If that happens, the town has surely lost. There has been WAY too much focus on the YT this turn. It would be much more beneficial to hunt who is the 3rd faction leader (likely BC), or the actual YT leader (i repeat it is NOT trez, he is a brother) | ||
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On May 25 2010 19:58 Radfield wrote: Yes please, you never explained WHY you did anything. Just that you had some plan with Jugan(who's dead and can't confirm) to bus Trez and Scamp. I'd love to hear what that plan was, because it seems like it directly fucks over the town plan that I posted last night cycle. Also, who did you bus night 1? Presumably we should be able to confirm that it happened. Everything you've written so far makes me think you are on Trez's side, trying to save his ass and prolong his life. I've already said that's what I'm doing... I was trying to help until I got confused as fuck when it came back that he was DT checked. Either Tricode or XeliN is lying one or the other on that, but that's irrelevant if you look at it from a broader perspective rad. | ||
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Daykill me, doubletap trez in the night (to keep YT numbers down), and then try to hunt the YT leader and the green faction leader. That is the best course of action for the town that I really really really wanted to win before I got recruited to YT | ||
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the yt will not die with trez, he isn't the leader, he is one of the 2 they started with the pm he sent me was sort of ambiguous on the recruitment from the brothers, and i have yet to have to vote for a recruit. i am certain that he is not the leader, though. kill me right now to prove that I am YT and am not lying to you all | ||
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if he lied to me the game ends, if he didn't then you all can kill me or the other known YT just don't forget there is a green faction who will overpower you all without the YT to balance them out | ||
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Lets assume the YT have gone the way I think they have 3 members + 2 recruits night 1 = 5 +1 recruit night 2 = 6 With Shu @ 4 (starting with a leader and a bodyguard) + 2 for the 2 night recruits, if you kill Trez and he's the leader, and we all die then Shu will be @5 and will rape any vote I didn't vote or get asked to vote as I was basically like "fuck you, I don't believe you" to him. He might not even be one of the YT at all to be honest, unless Tricode got a PM from caller I didn't get anything like that. Hey, so kind of obvious, but think about who we are recruiting next, you get an equal vote the way this is going you all are going to be letting Shu run this shit over | ||
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even so, they'll be at 4, and will have 25% or so of the people after tomorrow night YT will be at 2-3 I believe, with 1-2 of their members known if you're wanting to lynch and daykill, either lynch me and dayvig tricode or trez or lynch trez and dayvig tricode as i'm trying to help the town now obviously | ||
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i have no idea if i am or if i'm not. if trez dies and isn't YT then i'm still not even cleared from not being YT myself because someone else could have non-inform recruited me. trez also could have been lying, so even if he is YT i am not 100% certain to be YT myself because Caller didn't tell me shit. I made up the entire story about bussing people, LunarDestiny, so ignore that it was a ploy to try and save what I believed to be my faction's ass, and was spoiled by XeliN :p | ||
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"since busdriver is more useful to the YT than rolecop." can you read? my real power is in relation to the day lynch if you shan't lynch me i shan't use it when you use it trez i will show you whats up if you dayvig me i will kill the person attacking me | ||
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I'm also not sure if I'm affiliated with anyone. lynch trez for all i care tbh i'm honestly trying to help so i'm kinda mad about this | ||
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the bus is the only fabrication which was to save my faction now i am trying to save my own ass | ||
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i am ok with the way you all are playing, but you all are refusing to open your eyes to the big picture. with me out of the way, and with trez dying, there will be an easy road to victory for Shu. I suggest hitting/lynching if the hit doesnt work Trez to see if Me/Tricode are even YT at all. If we are not, if Trez is not, then the town is benefited from keeping us alive. If Trez comes back YT then I understand you all killing me I only say this because I don't want to die as a neutral player. I got no PM from Caller. Please reconsider LD | ||
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post 2 = fairly sincere, but probably not the best course of action in retrospect (best to kill trez) post 3 = true other than i have no idea if fishball is green or not. reminding people theres Shu. post 4 = true but you could just simply trust me from the get go and not kill me post 5 = same with post 3 in reminding people there are Shu post 6 = about as truthful as possible. i am not YT 100%, but i'm hating that i might be post 7 = 100% accurate except I couldn't kill you if you dayvigged me, i would just hate u forever:p post 8 = me begging to live because i found out ace is hosting the next game and i'll be banned post 9 = honest post 10 = me explaining i'm not 100% sure I'm even YT, and I would want to see Trez die before me | ||
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i guess i wasn't YT after all lol in that case, i am neutral. furthermore, i do not believe that i can be daykilled based upon my role pm | ||
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"I consider this as a victory for Shu already, so we have no regrets." how is this a victory? and if it is, you guys should have listened to me funny how i labeled BC and L as leaders early on go read my early posts before i was told i was recruited | ||
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anyways, my real power was that i would "run from a fight" and I THINK escape the day lynch "however you are a bit of an incompetent general (hint, hint). You're also a coward and run from fights." lol | ||
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On May 28 2010 10:30 Ace wrote: uh yea between you and BM I figured neither of you are over 14 and thats my overestimation ^_^ I find this to show immaturity more than anything I've ever done. I'm not judgmental. | ||
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