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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 05 2010 18:58 Bill Murray wrote: im the inventor radfield how can you even doubt that medics protect me I don't doubt it. But Foolishness seems to, so I was just trying to be thorough. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
foolishness and the mafia will stack which will overpower our 1 (at most) remaining medic if i do not die tonight, foolishness is probably not mafia, it's that simple (or you could believe we're both mafia, i guess, which would be dumb of you) anyways, on the off-chance that foolishness is town-aligned, our medic should protect me. | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
Pretty awesome second lynch. Gotta read back over the posts again, but does this mean that we can assume (for the moment anyways) that the people above him are probably telling the truth with their roles? | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
For tonight, I still like alignment kits as our invention - the chance of hitting a red by shooting into the crowd are now even lower. Alternatively - what do we think of making some meth-bomb-like item which would not kill all visitors, only the shooter? If enough townies have those the reds eventually kill themselves. I need to review people's posts relative to Sidersprang. | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
maybe someone should go check the list of people who didn't vote for sidesprang for the next lynch target. Bill Murray JeeJee DarthThienAn Scamp citi.zen | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On May 05 2010 19:18 Bill Murray wrote: scum will probably kill me tonight sadly foolishness and the mafia will stack which will overpower our 1 (at most) remaining medic if i do not die tonight, foolishness is probably not mafia, it's that simple (or you could believe we're both mafia, i guess, which would be dumb of you) anyways, on the off-chance that foolishness is town-aligned, our medic should protect me. This is silly, I don't see any scenario in which Foolishness would hit you tonight. And if he doesn't it proves nothing about his alignment. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
But moving on. JeeJee has information right now that pretty much no one else does. i didn't go for copycat so presumably we have some liars up in here either that or hobbes is mafia for the role that he is (or should be), he sure isn't doing shit with it. then again neither is sidesprang so i'm at a loss here Now that sidesprang is gone, JeeJee is claiming that he tried for a role and failed to get it. Which means that someone above him has his role. He also is claiming that whoever that person is, is failing to use it in a pro-town manner. I've looked through the roles, and I really can't figure out which role he could be talking about though. DayVig is the only one that seems likely. As far as who might have the role? In my mind the options are Opz, Falcynn or Hobbes. Bm and Foolishness have inventor and CV, if Korynne was lying about her pick then Foolishness would have outted her, Qatol is almost certainly telling the truth about trying for CopyCat, and everyone else is dead. Another possibility is that Foolishness and Korynne are both mafia, but I think this unlikely. So JeeJee, if you truly think that whoever took your role is anti-town, then you should role claim, because you will likely lead us to a mafia. However, I leave the final judgement up to you, no point in outing a pro-town player's role. | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On May 05 2010 23:32 johnnyspazz wrote: if you guys feel like i'm the best target for compvig, then i'll just take one for the town. i know i haven't really been doing much for the town, sorry. maybe someone should go check the list of people who didn't vote for sidesprang for the next lynch target. Bill Murray JeeJee DarthThienAn Scamp citi.zen You are pretty awesome at this. Oh wait: On May 04 2010 23:08 citi.zen wrote: Yup, at the end of the day some information is better than no information, so lynching him helps more than some other shot in the dark. Too early to have very strong red candidates anyway. Let's do it. ##Vote Sidesprang ## | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 05 2010 18:58 Bill Murray wrote: im the inventor radfield how can you even doubt that medics protect me That depends. Are you going to cooperate with the town now and make one of the devices we have suggested? Or are you going to continue to make cell phones? | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Bid list] + 1. Bill Murray - [17] [4] 2. Foolishness - [1] [1] 3. Korynne - [1] [5] 4. Falcynn [1] [5-20] or [4] [1] - hasn't claimed 5. [NyC]HoBbes - [4] [1] 6. ~OpZ~ - [4] [14] 7. 8. 9. 10. Qatol - [6] [1] 11. JeeJee - [6] [1] 12. DarthThienAn - [8] [1] 13. johnnyspazz - [8] [4] 14. 15. Radfield - [10] [1] 16. Scamp - [10] [11] 17. Zona - [12] [1] 18. citi.zen - [12] [3] Falcynn SERIOUSLY needs to come forward with his numbers. Groups: + Show Spoiler [Group 1] + Bill Murray + Show Spoiler [Group 2] + Foolishness Korynne Falcynn + Show Spoiler [Group 3] + Falcynn Hobbes ~OpZ~ + Show Spoiler [Group 4] + Qatol JeeJee + Show Spoiler [Group 5] + DarthThienAn johnnyspazz + Show Spoiler [Group 6] + Radfield Scamp + Show Spoiler [Group 7] + Zona citi.zen Now this should presumably clear group #4. However, I'm still not entirely sure that JeeJee belongs IN group #4. Notice that he claimed his numbers after both DarthThienAn and I claimed ours. He could have gotten into the same spot in the drafting order with the numbers [8][1]. This is further complicated by johnnyspazz's presence in group 5. On the one hand, he didn't come forward with his numbers until after both Radfield and DarthThienAn came forward with theirs. On the other, it would be a horrible risk for him to lie about his numbers and then have Amnesia come foward with a contradicting set. I think it is unlikely that he lied about his numbers. So there you have it. Logically, only one of johnnyspazz or JeeJee can be the mafia from group 5 (and I think it is one of them because I still think that Darth is the SK). Anyone want to make a case for hitting one of them over the other? We HAVE to CompVig one of them tonight. Also, Zona, I seem to have broken the archive thread by accidentally typing a [ instead of a ] earlier. Could you fix it lest I make that thread ridiculously long? | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
I didn't read the thread before I put in my numbers, and I was preparing for the filmrace so I never bothered checking if the town was organizing someway of having people pick numbers. Sorry if my numbers turned out to be anti-town. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 06 2010 02:55 Falcynn wrote: My draft numbers? [1][7] I didn't read the thread before I put in my numbers, and I was preparing for the filmrace so I never bothered checking if the town was organizing someway of having people pick numbers. Sorry if my numbers turned out to be anti-town. It isn't that. It's just that having a complete list helps the town significantly. Short version is that having the numbers lets us group players. We think it is unlikely that the mafia deliberately picked the same numbers. Therefore, if you find a mafia in a group of people who picked a certain number, you won't find another one there and can check off the rest of the group as mostly-confirmed town/SK. I really wish we had gotten Amnesia's numbers before he was modkilled. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On May 05 2010 23:34 Radfield wrote: I have to disagree with you Citizen, sidesprang was lynched because several things pointed to him being the mafia copycat. The only other real option was him being a very bad townie. But moving on. JeeJee has information right now that pretty much no one else does. Now that sidesprang is gone, JeeJee is claiming that he tried for a role and failed to get it. Which means that someone above him has his role. He also is claiming that whoever that person is, is failing to use it in a pro-town manner. I've looked through the roles, and I really can't figure out which role he could be talking about though. DayVig is the only one that seems likely. As far as who might have the role? In my mind the options are Opz, Falcynn or Hobbes. Bm and Foolishness have inventor and CV, if Korynne was lying about her pick then Foolishness would have outted her, Qatol is almost certainly telling the truth about trying for CopyCat, and everyone else is dead. Another possibility is that Foolishness and Korynne are both mafia, but I think this unlikely. So JeeJee, if you truly think that whoever took your role is anti-town, then you should role claim, because you will likely lead us to a mafia. However, I leave the final judgement up to you, no point in outing a pro-town player's role. you are correct, i probably know hobbes' role now, of course that's still pending whether others have lied but the way the events have unfolded so far, the claims seem legit. i think i probably understand hobbes' strategy now and it kind of makes sense.. we shall see. atm i am leaning towards hobbes being townie so that's where we stand on that issue. what's the plan with inventions this night? i'm still leaning towards alignment kits. maybe you can get creative and get a gun with special bullets .. if you hit a mafia, they die, if you hit a townie, nothing happens. its like an alignment kit with bullets, whooo =) | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 05 2010 23:14 citi.zen wrote: Sidersprang wasn't lynched because he was terribly suspect, but because he didn't really reply + we thought we might get more info on other people from lynching him. We got lucky with our lynch, which is great, but remember the mafia KP is the same whatever happens. For tonight, I still like alignment kits as our invention - the chance of hitting a red by shooting into the crowd are now even lower. Alternatively - what do we think of making some meth-bomb-like item which would not kill all visitors, only the shooter? If enough townies have those the reds eventually kill themselves. I need to review people's posts relative to Sidersprang. I can't believe I missed this earlier. No bombs please. I don't trust that day 1 cell phone not to be a detonator. Please let's just stick with something that prevents hits. We are losing town members too fast. I like the security camera/trip wire idea suggested earlier if ace allows it (prevents the hit and shows you your attacker). Otherwise, just something that turns a player into a veteran would be quite useful. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 06 2010 03:06 JeeJee wrote: you are correct, i probably know hobbes' role now, of course that's still pending whether others have lied but the way the events have unfolded so far, the claims seem legit. i think i probably understand hobbes' strategy now and it kind of makes sense.. we shall see. atm i am leaning towards hobbes being townie so that's where we stand on that issue. what's the plan with inventions this night? i'm still leaning towards alignment kits. maybe you can get creative and get a gun with special bullets .. if you hit a mafia, they die, if you hit a townie, nothing happens. its like an alignment kit with bullets, whooo =) Absolutely not. The mafia want to speed this game up. It's the only way they win. We already have some good suspects right now. We do NOT need alignment kits. And I'm not sure the person with the gun won't die immediately. Please stick to something that keeps players alive. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 06 2010 03:34 JeeJee wrote: ^ you realize inventions just last one night right? so if bill guesses wrong (which is quite likely, ask any doc) no info is gained, no townie is saved. with an alignment kit we have persistent information. Where did you get that? I don't see any indication that inventions last one night. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
Also, to be clear, I was not imagining a one time use dt kit. I meant an invention that permanently gives someone dt abilities. it's a one time deal, radfield, it doesn't work like that. i just had that clarified. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
Okay wow. That was apparently buried in the thread somewhere? I'm still unsure how that would interact with a vet ability. One DT check =/= one night of vet armor (because the player can use the DT check any night). However, if you are right about that, then I'll agree with you that we should be looking for an alignment check kit or possibly a tracking kit. | ||
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