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On that note.... Reading, and rereading is for pussies. True mafia players skim read 1/8th of the posts in the thread, spam accusations, random vote, and hop on bandwagon's. Does that sound like what this mafianoob rage is promoting? I think not. Therefore he must be an assassin. A third party role who is not used to the standard town/mafia game and doesn't know how to properly fling shit and random players. | ||
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Reading our archives doesn't change this situation, just gives insight to our roles which can be useful but isn't relevant to this decision. Regardless of who gets what read off of me or BC we should kill him, not me. One situation you kill me I am a DT then you kill him. The other situation you kill him he is red then I am semi confirmed. Just in the sense it would be illogical for me to be mafia at that point but is still possible. Of course BC could flip something besides red, but that wouldn't make sense on my part and you could kill me after that I suppose. | ||
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In response to your other accusations. I have been friends with BC for a while, and was immediately struck by him STARTING the wagon on me. That made me think he was mafia. I personally didn't need more info than that. However I decided to role check him anyway and got back that he was red. Yeah sure, I could of behavior analyzed how him saying not to protect Ace, Caller, and himself was a sign that he wasn't worried about dying and was trying to make it appear selfless and town serving while taking away coverage from people he personally views as threats. But I didn't. I didn't go through all of his posting for no particular reason apart form that I checked him and thought he was guilty. I also doubt the odds of us hitting two millers in a row, so Caller flipping Miller reaffirms my belief that BC is guilty of scum. In regards to explaining how I haven't done much, I usually take time and read everything posted while taking notes on who strikes me as fishy. This game I was AFK for first few days and ended up with 36 pages to read that was quite frankly FILLED with shit. After reading 20 pages of more or less nothing I started skimming because I was on a deadline to try to get the town to not lynch me because of inactivity. So my analysis's right now are weak and I haven't reread any single poster yet. I am also stubborn and don't really wish to use Zbot, it seems to me to ruin the spirit of the game and make red hunting easy. All I have for you to prove my innocence is BC's head, if you choose to kill me to figure out if BC is guilty or not then you don't know how to preserve your power roles. Killing BC and he is anything but red would prove that I am not what I claim to be. | ||
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I can't see why you think its so far fetched to have 3 DT's in a game with over 30 people. But seriously brownbear, give one redeeming factor to me being a mafia lying about this? If hes not red I am dead anyway. You give two other scenario's and discredit the one I gave you while saying how UNLIKELY the other two scenario's are, while my scenario is not beyond belief by any stretch of the imagination. You haven't even contradicted ANYTHING I said. You present your reasons for thinking I am scum which I suppose are okay, but the solution of lynching me and risking killing a DT for the mafia is retarded compared to killing the accused. | ||
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On April 23 2010 05:39 Scamp wrote: Me too, while you're at it. OMM ONNN ITTT And yes, I did use Zbot for this. I am inclined to think you are Townie Here is my main confirming posts by you. One of the big things is that you actually have posts. Generally you are quiet as mafia, however I don't think you are bad or above changing your posting style. On April 19 2010 12:32 Scamp wrote: I'll warn you right now LardyGooser, if you continue to mention your own noobiness whenever you make a point then I'm going to get you lynched. Even if you really don't know what you're doing, you can't be allowed to shirk responsibility of your opinions or defend yourself by way of inexperience. Anyway, I agree with you and Radfield, if people are still inactive with 6 hours to go or so then we don't really need to worry about them. Even if they just post/vote at the last minute we can just pressure or kill them the next day. No townie that actually wants to win would use this strategy to lurk, so that's that. Also, it isn't really that hard to go after/find people that are both largely inactive and suspicious too. Fun note: Tree.Hugger didn't read the rules! This was very early on, it could be distancing language for when LardyGooser dies, however I don't think that is too likely. On April 18 2010 17:02 Scamp wrote: I can't actually tell if Bill is serious with that plan or not. It seems like he is, but I don't understand it at all. It seems to me that the mafia will just want to hit people that have non-mafia on both sides of the killer/killee list, and that's that. Also, it just looks like a plan to randomly out townie power roles. Legit townies then have to lie or be exposed. And if they start lying, well that helps create the mass confusion BM wants us to avoid. Add to this that BM is suggesting the idea of a mass roleclaim...because it worked wonders in one game where people could PM each other and there were no green roles...yeah, I'm not listening to any plan from this guy. I didn't notice that Abenson was practicing spamming before the thread, but he's doing a good job of it so far now that the day is done. d3_cres posted that there are at least two assassins. I've got to believe that there are no less than three. Otherwise, why would you get a kill refunded for hitting an assassin? I also look favorably on this post. You don't go over top in attacking his retarded plan, and just kind of ease in your thoughts about it. This isn't generally mafia behavior since it lacks aggression or trying to undermine or incriminate someone based on what they say. On April 21 2010 20:58 Scamp wrote: Alrighty, I've been asked to take a look at Abenson since he's directly below me on the list. This is a horrible person to try and analyze because not only has a lot of people already done it for me, but he hasn't posted anything since those people spoke on him. It is interesting to note that he did propose to keep Caller around noting: "If he's not mafia he'll benefit us." He also thinks BM's assassin plan is dumb but in his final post he's willing to discuss it. So, there really isn't much to go on with him this game IMO. He's either confused town or confused scum. Honestly, I'd actually consider him being an assassin based on what he's said so far. Not liking the last five pages or so at all. Just a lot of people bickering at each other and the same names popping up over and over. It's all a major distraction, and I have no idea what it's supposed to be distracting from. Shame on every townie that's willingly a part of it, what the hell do you think you're doing? I also wonder why Bill Murray seems to have dropped his plan so suddenly and willingly. I have to confess that it didn't make sense to me, so maybe I missed something, but I don't think that anything that has happened so far should have derailed the plan as he proposed it. And now for the centerpiece: Ace and Caller. I actually really like Caller's defense but as he noted there really isn't any defending him now. If Ace is mafia trying to BS us then I'll happily take one mislynch now for a dead mafia the next day, whether by lynch or by vig shot. And if Ace is a townie or assassin or whatever trying to BS us, then I'll seriously have to think about playing with him ever again. Probably the confirming post. Most mafia would just add to chaos and unreadability because it favors their agenda the most. You point this out and draw some mild links to other people calling up some odd behavior with billy, trying to do your part for analysis (I didn't double check your analysis though) You are just generally playing town orientated I think. Final conclusion. Pretty sure you are a green townie, could be a blue just because of your increased activity. I'd lean more towards green though. Or a very sexy played mild mannered red. | ||
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On April 23 2010 03:42 Fishball wrote: I'm bored. Someone analyze me. I read all your posts in Zbot. You have literally said and done nothing. You seem to be just relaxing not contributing or doing anything. There is almost no way to get a read on you except to say you are faking activity which makes me lean towards saying you are scummy. It just appears you are trying to barely fly under everyone's radar, and if I was a red guy I would hit you (if you weren't on my time) because you seem like a blue lying low, or a red lying low. Your behavior I would say is more consistent with a red, but I am not 100%. During tomorrow's double lynch if we seriously don't have a better candidate I would be fine with lynching you. | ||
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On April 23 2010 09:41 d3_crescentia wrote: Wait a second, RoL claimed DT? When did that happen? Is it in reference to this post? ZBot hasn't been updated and I've been in bed sick today, so I'm asking y'all to forgive me if I missed something critical recently. I figured it was obvious when I said role check, but later on I confirmed and said I was a DT. | ||
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One we would have to assume that the mafia would select ME as godfather, which in itself is absurd. I have been a decent player but never the one a team would try and save from role checks since I am never considered THAT important of a player. Point two. Why the fuck would I choose detective? I would have to be planning this from day one when I DECIDED to appear as detective as opposed to the more common claims of either townie, veteran, or medic. Easily faked roles. I choose the detective, a power I cannot fake in the slightest if the situation warranted it, then I select a person who I KNOW is not mafia and say they are mafia for what? To put us back one lynch? That makes no sense because in the same note I said double lynch which means I want us to catch more mafia. Maybe we could say I was hasty with my role claim, however I saw Ace do it and I figured why not do the same. You guys wanted my suspect from behavioral analysis and rather than try to explain why I think BC's actions were suspicious it was easier to role claim and get two mafia in a row. But another thing to think about, why would I sacrifice our KP by lying about BC being mafia? The notion is absolutely absurd. If I was mafia my death would bring our KP from 4 to 3 since we would drop to 6 members. I do agree, lets not mention suspects until night actions. I wouldn't want to give mafia ideas on who not to kill. While in the same note I hope I don't die before I can release suspects. Assuming I am mafia is retarded. | ||
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On April 23 2010 12:31 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: we can still just lynch 1 person, given the majority lynch rules. would suck for wasting a double lynch though. I can't see this game going another 3 days if we don't kill a mafia today. So I don't think it really matters. The KP in this game is very high. By tomorrow night we will start seeing assassin hits entering the fray which will reduce the number of people who can vote for mafia. Especially if the assassin's miss their hits and start nailing townie's or if we get lucky mafia. | ||
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Mathematically we should keep activating double lynches because the game will most likely end within the next 3 days, so to use them and have the ability to utilize them will most likely be viable in the near future. | ||
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On April 23 2010 12:48 Korynne wrote: RoL, sure it's easier to role-claim and get 2 in a row, but is that really better for town considering we could lose 2, and potentially all of our detectives tonight? =( gotta put some faith in medics, don't we? Hopefully we have two and they protect correctly. I thought widdling down their KP was a good idea. It just didn't work out as such. | ||
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On April 23 2010 12:40 BrownBear wrote: Dammit. After tonight, unless we get some lucky medics, AND assuming the Assassins don't attack tonight, we're going to be at 16 to 7, which means if we don't get at least 1 mafia tomorrow during the day, we're done. I don't want to say who the medics should protect, cause smart mafia just wont attack those people, too, so it's really down to their intelligence and their ability to predict the mafia's moves. Tonight might be a good time for vigilantes to perform some hits... or for Assassins to spend one of their nghtkills on people they know to be Mafia. Why? Because if you don't, the game might very well end before you have a chance to fulfill your objectives. This is actually a ploy we used in previous games to create a pseudo medic protection. We would create a list of people we think should be protected and the mafia would avoid hitting that list because there is a chance they could waste a hit on a protected person. While the medic could just ignore that list and protect someone else. Its a type of wifom to hurt the mafia in making a decision on who to hit, and to try to keep who we want alive. So just for the sake of an example, I would recommend medics to protect the following people tonight. Ace RoL Korynne Scamp This list is alright, I Am sure I could find better candidates but is something to consider when deciding who to protect. | ||
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On April 23 2010 13:17 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: The thing is, I have already stated that I believe BC's behavior points to him being innocent, as he so openly railed against Ace. If you look at the circumstances of RoL's rolecheck, it was a lot different than Ace's rolecheck because Ace checked a player that he had publicly suspected Day 1, and Caller was unlucky enough to be the miller. Combined with Caller's already odd play it was enough to get people to vote for him. However it seems like theres a lot more doubt in the town regarding rol/bc. I mean I guess it's totally possible that BC is also a Miller, and RoL does have a point that his play doesn't make a whole lot of sense from the mafia perspective (though is this a bit of a wifom? it sort of sounds like it). Korynne has similar sentiments expressed in her post above. Its not a matter of it being a wifom or not. I simply can't fake a role check as mafia. Doing it I would either have to be really lucky or lucky and good at behavior analysis to actually pull that off. I could be lying, but lynching BC would figure that out for you 99%. So its not like I trying to pull a wifom and mind fuck you, because quite simply it would be an enormous risk with a gain that is not even worth it. @Incognito. I agree with your entire post. | ||
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