EPT@Caller,
The Rage bandwagon started with your post about him... and it made sense to me? In any case I switched to jpak since I want a majority vote and he's got the most on him by now...
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meeple
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@Caller, The Rage bandwagon started with your post about him... and it made sense to me? In any case I switched to jpak since I want a majority vote and he's got the most on him by now... | ||
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On April 20 2010 07:42 Bill Murray wrote: do you really feel like he's scum? He could be, but I don't see it. Well... nothing's certain... I don't feel jpak's scum but I'm voting for him because I want a lynch today. I feel Rage has a better chance of being scum tha jpak does. But who knows... we might yet see red blood tonight. | ||
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What's bs about that? I'm against lynching inactives but if my votes the one needed for a lynch then of course I'll do it. Who do you have in mind instead? Would you rather a no lynch than a green? | ||
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On April 20 2010 08:33 Caller wrote: Remind me what the reasoning behind this bandwagon was, and remind me who were the 3rd and 4th voters in the bandwagon and think about why they would be the most suspicious. So you state an idea with good reasoning, I agree and support it... then I'm suspicious. Please explain how that works. I dunno if spots 3 and 4 are mafia hotspots or something, since you mention it so much... | ||
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@Caller... lol it might be a statistic but as a determining factor in someone's redness its really weak. I'm sure you can pull up tons of statistics that don't prove anything | ||
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On April 20 2010 09:58 [NyC]HoBbes wrote: If Jugan switches it'll be to vote for me Oh you doubter... I know Jugan is a team player | ||
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Nothing to do but wait and see who gets offed. | ||
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Now... to aid medics in making some decisions: High Risk of Dying - BC - Caller - Incog All are pretty high profile and have been relatively helpfulish... On that note remember BC's plan of letting them live/die by their play. Not a suggestion either way, just something to think about. Medium Risk Examples are but definitely not limited to: - INfund - tree.hugger - hobbes - foolishness Basically anyone with some experience that's been posting somewhat regularly The rest are basically low risk... but I'm sure the mafia will pick off some. Also please before you protect someone go over their post history very carefully... we definitely don't want to be protecting reds and for sure there are some reds in the people I listed as perceived high/med risk. Any hints in their post history of scummy behavior and you should think twice about protecting them. | ||
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On April 20 2010 15:37 Bill Murray wrote: I feel like I am at a pretty high risk of dying. Yeah not really... your confusion and spam is exactly what the mafia wants. It prevents us from making decisions and sidetracks us with talks of flamewheel throwing in a non-existent assasin | ||
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On April 21 2010 04:40 Caller wrote: by the way, meeple is also suspect for a) voting 3rd b) rapidly switching votes... to 3rd c) commentating on the result of the lynch You're barking up a non-existent tree Caller... Statistics don't imply anything. And yeah my suspicions of Rage are pretty much dissolved by now... Not to say he's completely scot-free but much less so than before. | ||
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1) I changed votes because we needed a lynch 2) Yeah this doesn't mean anything 3) I do this frequently... look at previous games | ||
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On April 21 2010 05:39 Caller wrote: 1) this by itself isn't bad 2) oh yes it does 3) you did this twice when you were still alive the first time you did it you were medic and gave it blatantly away when you said the second time you did it you just said and were town this time you said "dang we lost one of our kp, etc." a bit different this time, eh? the other two games you played you were either dead or banned It's not any different... and when I was a medic I didn't save that guy, so it wasn't like I was gloating about saving the guy. I was just congratulating the guy who did... which is ok isn't it? This time I say we lost a potential kp because we did... you're totally over-analyzing this | ||
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On April 21 2010 09:21 Incognito wrote: Actually meeple is a fairly suspicious character imo. Let me go back through his archived posts and check. Ok, useless posts, followed by attacking BC's plan/idea. Not really pro-town, but not suspicious yet either. Oh noes. Next post he defends BC. Not sure how much we can read into this. But flip floppiness is kinda pro-mafia. Then he ignores BM, cool. Advocates anti day-3 double lynch policy. Ok, fine I guess this is a justifiable position. There are plenty of people who have advocated this position in the past. Regardless though, traditionally usually have a decent amount of information in our hands by day 3. Yet meeple arbitrarily assumes that we won't have enough info by day 3. I didn't say we wouldn't have enough... I said we wouldn't have tons. We probably will have enough... but not so much that I would be totally comfortable with doing it and the second lynch will probably be a stretch. It really all depends on how the game plays out. If after tonights killings there is reason to believe in Day 3 we'll be set on two Mafia I might very well change my mind. But I'm just playing it safe... too many lynches without enough information just means more green deaths. Really? Well why don't you try to make generate this info then? Seriously info doesn't just pop out of nowhere into your hands. Seems to me like meeple has no intention of attempting to get information. He inherently assumes that not enough will be available. Oops! Also, another thing to note about meeple's posting is that if you look at all of meeple's posts as a whole, he is always reacting. He is always responding to what is going on immediately in front of him. Not going through or trying to analyze other players as a whole. Strike two! Well, before I write him off on that, meeple: start trying to dig up and analyze real information instead of just responding to what is immediately in front of you please.. You're right... this is something I'm guilty of. I am normally a reactionary player and even more so in this game... I mean hell even this response is only a reaction to you prodding me a bit. I will make an effort to poke the bear and get some information. Continuing, meeple finally decides to respond to the BM incident, complains about inactivity, and jokes around. Casually mentions a bandwagon (not certain if this is an anti-bandwagon stance, but I assume it is?), and then in the next post jumps onto the jpak wagon. Talk about hypocrisy. I don't remember complaining about inactivity... in fact I think I said that its been pretty good, with 40 pages by Day 1. About bandwagons: Normally bandwagons are something to be avoided... but in a game where you need a majority vote to lynch they're inevitable, and even necessary. Do you really think that everyone voting for jpak really beleived him to be scum? Or even agreed with the reasons he was being lynched? Without Jugan switching last minute (when he claimed he wouldn't) we wouldn't have got a lynch at all. We should still look closely at people who do little but bandwagon (yeah I fall on this list right now, but whatever) Next several posts are trash, and then he comes up with a medic list. Cool. It looks useful. Unfortunately, infundibulum already made one of those. He was probably ignored, but oh wells. At least meeple leaves Ace (Detective?) off the list, and adds some people to the list who aren't really worth mentioning. tree.hugger? Foolishness hasn't been useful, and hobbes is a big WUT? Why does meeple also ignore Zona and d3_crescentia from his list? Shady and poorly thought out list at best. Next he defends himself from Caller. And now he will have to defend himself from me. Better come out and explain yourself before I explain your situation for you (well, I already did). (Note to inactives, don't think that I'm going to give you the same treatment as meeple and let you defend yourselves. The difference here is that at least meeple is being active. He gets a few more bonus tolerance points on my list than you guys do). Oh also I'd like you to come out and explain your choices for your bizzare medic list. Yeah the medic list eh... hrmmm... not entirely well thought out but certaintly I can defend it. The list wasn't meant to tell the medics exactly what to do... and surely it wasn't meant to include everyone that I thought was at risk. I actually meant to include d3 and don't know why it didn't end up on there. But Zona and Ace were ignored because Zona hasn't been especially active other than his Zbot and he's been really active on other parts of the site, so although his contributions have been incredibly useful he hasn't been all too active around here. Ace seems to have given up on the game and I have doubts whether he really is a dt... but regardless it's not like he's contributing to anything other than his ingame-game. I saw Infund's list... but I thought it could be expanded... tree.hugger and foolishness have posted semi-intelligently but yeah hobbes... mmm... that's someone that might have been left off given some more thought. | ||
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On April 21 2010 11:16 Bill Murray wrote: This just means we have to work harder to win, but i'm worried that there's no town circle forming. veterans like ace and bc need to get off their asses and actually do something instead of appearing bored and letting the town go to shit. since you guys aren't stepping it up, i'll have to. since i know i'm green, we can create a town circle around me. I'm not asking you to roleclaim to me, but if you are a member of this town, and want to contribute and win then u need to listen to me. We need to get rid of people who aren't stepping up to the plate. these players are supposed to be good and helpful players but instead they are not helping or are just posting garbage: Tree.Hugger, Ace, BC, Infundibulum, There are also people who have scummy suspicious posts or are strangely quiet like meeple, Zona, abenson, or KF91 This post feels pretty squirmy to me Also, Meeple, when you said "" How on earth do you KNOW that? Let's lynch Meeple. Look at the timing of Jugan's vote post... I saw his vote go in before I posted that. | ||
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On April 21 2010 12:13 Incognito wrote: Your third sentence contradicts itself? It pretty much says, "we will probably have enough information to use a double lynch, but I'm not comfortable using this enough information to actually lynch two people!!?" Which is it? Although yes, at this rate, nobody's spitting out enough information to DL tomorrow. This statement is shaky, but I guess it doesn't make sense for you to say this as mafia. Since really not very many solid suspects have been brought up, so you wouldn't have the need to avoid DLing then. Great I'll look forward to it. So you are in the lets-not-kill-more-innocent-townies-with-shaky-Double-Lynches camp, but you're also in the lets-lynch-people-just-because-i-don't-want-a-no-lynch camp. Cool beans. Hmm...you're still suspicious, but this has put me back into indecision. Actually finding out today's deaths makes you look more innocent. Since two people on your medic list died. I'm not sure you're that crazy to put two of your hit list members on a public medic list. Although I guess since Hobbes was like a lolwut and Foolishness was acting...shady you could take that risk. In any case, I await your active contributions to the town effort. When I say that we will probably have enough information... I mean that there might be 2 people we suspect of being mafia but we're shaky on them. The difference I was trying (and failed) to emphasize was having barely enough information to lynch two people, and having like 2-3 really solid suspects and not enough lynches to deal justice to them. In any case... I'll be reviewing and making a case for some suspects shortly | ||
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nbtnbt5 - His very few posts in the thread have just to say he supports BM's assasin plan, and the plan to lynch an inactive. Moreover, the feel of his posts give me a hint of mafia with no idea how to act green. Still needs more posting and information to confirm. Voted for himself, then a fairly random vote on Falcynn... The self-vote gives me further suspicion that he's red and struggling with the role. Abenson - Lots of crap posting... saying alot and remaining active but not actually contributing very much at all - He might be implicated if Caller really does turn up red, by this post: On April 19 2010 07:05 Abenson wrote: Hmm... Caller is always interesting. I propose we keep him for a bit. He is a veteran, after all. If he's not mafia he'll benefit us. And he prefaced this game by saying he's well known for being useless, which is somewhat of a cop-out so that he doesn't need to answer for what he says. And Elemenope I'm still waiting for your trademark few but lengthy posts... | ||
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On April 21 2010 14:47 flamewheel91 wrote: Elemenope was replaced by Incognito at least two days ago now. Also: Vote count updated. lol... fail on my part... too many people to keep track of. I wondered why his Zbot entry was so short. | ||
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