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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 21 2010 22:02 GMT
#16
Typing in thread as requested.
Joining.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 23 2010 18:17 GMT
#43
I'm at work. You guys do realize some of us have to work on weekdays right.
Lunch break now though.

So we get to vote right off the bat?

##Vote nemY##
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 24 2010 00:05 GMT
#62
On March 24 2010 06:19 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2010 03:17 Fishball wrote:
I'm at work. You guys do realize some of us have to work on weekdays right.
Lunch break now though.

So we get to vote right off the bat?

##Vote nemY##


Lol I like how you used more or less the same excuse as me and voted for me because of it

##Vote Fishball##

On a more serious note... anyone got any plans?


No, I voted you because of... well, um...
Oh, this.
[image loading]


Shouldn't you be voting for citizen, he did it first!
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 24 2010 18:21 GMT
#87
On March 25 2010 02:39 nemY wrote:
Can someone explain the terminology we are using? Like mainly the meanings behind it.
WIFOM is whine in front of me, but i don't understand the exact logic behind it
i don't really know the rest... is FoS finger of suspicion?


You are right, it means finger of suspicion.
I googled it last night myself, since I didn't know what it meant as well.


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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 24 2010 18:24 GMT
#88
Woops, just saw Versatile's post above mine.
My post meant no mockery Nemy. Just stating I didn't know all these acronyms being used as well.

Also, I guess the new trend now is to point a FoS on A, and vote for B
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 26 2010 00:52 GMT
#123
On March 26 2010 09:14 Zona wrote:
Under 2 hours left until the end of the day!


It seems like it has been forever.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 27 2010 03:11 GMT
#188
Remaining Player list
RebirthOfLeGenD
Ace
citi.zen
Fishball
haster27
johnnyspazz
nemY

7 players left, 2 are Mafia.
I know I'm green, so that leaves me with 6 choices.
If I vote randomly, there is a 33% chance I will hit a Mafia.

Now lets take a look at the order of Zona's list of players.

On March 21 2010 10:42 Zona wrote:
Player list
1. Abenson replaced by RebirthOfLeGenD (aka rol)
2. Ace
3. citi.zen (aka: citizen)
4. Fishball
5. haster27 (aka: haster)
6. johnnyspazz (aka: johnny, jonny, or jonnyspazz)
7. nemY
8. Versatile (aka: vers) the detective, killed Night 1
9. Vivi57 (aka: vivi) the medic, lynched Day 1


As pure speculation, it would be fair to say there will be a Mafia in 1-3 and another one in 5-7.
Granted, this is purely speculation, as we already have 2 blues at the bottom of the list, and Zona might not have used the exact order to generate roles.

There is a good chance that either Ace or citi.zen, that one of them could be red.

This thread citi.zen has posted the most, with Ace being second. Versatile haven't posted much at all, just like me, Nemy etc., yet she was hit. Why?

Previous history? Ace definitely knows her more than anyone else here. Random hit? Could be anyone. How random can this be?

Of course people can say, "What if you are lying? What if you are Mafia?".
Well to those 4 other Townies out there, you know who you are. I don't need you to believe what I say, but I want you to be aware of the situation.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 28 2010 04:48 GMT
#226
nemY being in the bottom bracket which I mentioned before, and his out of nowhere behavior draws my attention.

I'm inclined to vote him or citi.zen, or maybe even RoL.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 28 2010 06:59 GMT
#233
On March 28 2010 15:17 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2010 12:11 Fishball wrote:
Remaining Player list
RebirthOfLeGenD
Ace
citi.zen
Fishball
haster27
johnnyspazz
nemY

7 players left, 2 are Mafia.
I know I'm green, so that leaves me with 6 choices.
If I vote randomly, there is a 33% chance I will hit a Mafia.

Now lets take a look at the order of Zona's list of players.

On March 21 2010 10:42 Zona wrote:
Player list
1. Abenson replaced by RebirthOfLeGenD (aka rol)
2. Ace
3. citi.zen (aka: citizen)
4. Fishball
5. haster27 (aka: haster)
6. johnnyspazz (aka: johnny, jonny, or jonnyspazz)
7. nemY
8. Versatile (aka: vers) the detective, killed Night 1
9. Vivi57 (aka: vivi) the medic, lynched Day 1


As pure speculation, it would be fair to say there will be a Mafia in 1-3 and another one in 5-7.
Granted, this is purely speculation, as we already have 2 blues at the bottom of the list, and Zona might not have used the exact order to generate roles.

There is a good chance that either Ace or citi.zen, that one of them could be red.

This thread citi.zen has posted the most, with Ace being second. Versatile haven't posted much at all, just like me, Nemy etc., yet she was hit. Why?

Previous history? Ace definitely knows her more than anyone else here. Random hit? Could be anyone. How random can this be?

Of course people can say, "What if you are lying? What if you are Mafia?".
Well to those 4 other Townies out there, you know who you are. I don't need you to believe what I say, but I want you to be aware of the situation.

Long post saying... that since you are in the middle of the alphabetical player list, you must somehow be innocent? And that there maybe is a mafia in slots 1-3, and another in slots 5-7 (surely not 4 though!) - even though the blues were both bottom of the list? You've lost me.


Either your comprehension skills are bad, or you're trying to make a play.
I said I know I'm green, but I also said I don't expect everyone to believe me. I could very well be red in another player's eyes. I don't get what you're trying to pick at.

I've made up my mind.
##Vote citi.zen##
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 28 2010 07:10 GMT
#235
Ace, citi.zen, RoL, all give me the same gut feeling. Seems like either one of them are Mafia, or all three of them are green.

Nemy is on top of my gut list, but no point voting for him, unless you guys would change votes.
Johnnyspazz haven't posted much. Can't comment. Lurking Mafia? Possible. Especially in a small game setting like this.
haster27 have made some logical posts, least concerned as a suspect for the moment.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 29 2010 02:53 GMT
#275
So 3 Green vs 2 Red after Night.
Statistically speaking, any Green would have a 50% chance of hitting a red by voting randomly. Not that it matters.

It would be over if Town missed the next lynch.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 29 2010 19:01 GMT
#281
Since I'm on lunch break and the thread haven't moved for a while...

Interesting move by johnnyspazz at the end of Day vote change. Not regarding the voting subject, as voting for me is totally legit, but the move itself.

- johnnyspazz tried to make a last minute vote change. Why?
- I don't know whether Ace or citi.zen got three votes first, but it would be irrelevant. If citi.zen got 3 votes first, he would still be lynched, and johnnyspazz's action would mean nothing. If Ace got 3 votes first, Ace would be lynched. If johnnyspazz wanted Ace to be lynched, why vote for a 3rd person instead of directly voting for Ace? Doesn't want the extra "attention"?
- Voting for me at that point of the game would do nothing. It is impossible for me to be lynched with just 1 vote. If he says his intent was to "lynch" me, I call BS.

Quite a bad move there johnnyspazz.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 30 2010 00:01 GMT
#285
On March 30 2010 07:33 johnnyspazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
- johnnyspazz tried to make a last minute vote change. Why?

i tried to change my vote so that ace would die because of citi.zens final post before his death
imo a red player wouldn't even bother posting something like that
Show nested quote +
- I don't know whether Ace or citi.zen got three votes first, but it would be irrelevant. If citi.zen got 3 votes first, he would still be lynched, and johnnyspazz's action would mean nothing. If Ace got 3 votes first, Ace would be lynched. If johnnyspazz wanted Ace to be lynched, why vote for a 3rd person instead of directly voting for Ace? Doesn't want the extra "attention"?

i changed my vote to get a possible reaction
Show nested quote +
- Voting for me at that point of the game would do nothing. It is impossible for me to be lynched with just 1 vote. If he says his intent was to "lynch" me, I call BS.

wrong. there is no "unvote" option so to kill ace instead of citizen, all i have to do is switch my vote to anyone. why so defensive over a single vote?


I can see you have reading comprehension problems as well. I already said it is legit to vote for me, but your last minute action was obviously not intended to lynch me as it simply would not happen at that point. The entire post was to question your actions, not why or why not I should be lynched.

On March 30 2010 07:33 johnnyspazz wrote:
why so defensive over a single vote?

I repeat again, your reading sucks.

On March 30 2010 07:33 johnnyspazz wrote:
i tried to change my vote so that ace would die because of citi.zens final post before his death

i changed my vote to get a possible reaction


So like I mentioned above, if you wanted Ace dead you could have just voted for him. So you voted for me, just to see "a possible reaction", at the last minute, yeah sure.

Ace could very well be Mafia, and I have no problem voting for him next. But if you keep up your sketchy little moves like this, I'm inclined to vote for you first. There is a saying, "Dumb Townie or Mafia, both deserve to die".

Also,

On March 30 2010 07:43 nemY wrote:
Can we please just lynch Ace next time day comes around?

On March 30 2010 07:46 johnnyspazz wrote:
so you and fishball can autowin this game?
NO THANKS


So me, Nemy, Ace are all Mafia now right? Oh wait.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 30 2010 03:44 GMT
#291
On March 30 2010 12:29 Zona wrote:
To give an example of a violation of this rule:

Everyone is saying Zona is mafia and is about to lynch him. To save himself, he posts, "I promise never to play in TL mafia games again if I turn out not to be town." Everyone thinks to themselves, "Well, Zona loves to play mafia on TL, so he wouldn't lie about that. I guess he really is town," and unvotes him.

This is against the spirit of the game.


I actually hate this crap a lot as well. Like BM in previous games, and QS trying to get himself mod-killed in BC's game, when he was indeed Mafia.

Ugh.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 30 2010 05:40 GMT
#296
On March 30 2010 14:04 johnnyspazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 09:01 Fishball wrote:
On March 30 2010 07:33 johnnyspazz wrote:
- johnnyspazz tried to make a last minute vote change. Why?

i tried to change my vote so that ace would die because of citi.zens final post before his death
imo a red player wouldn't even bother posting something like that
- I don't know whether Ace or citi.zen got three votes first, but it would be irrelevant. If citi.zen got 3 votes first, he would still be lynched, and johnnyspazz's action would mean nothing. If Ace got 3 votes first, Ace would be lynched. If johnnyspazz wanted Ace to be lynched, why vote for a 3rd person instead of directly voting for Ace? Doesn't want the extra "attention"?

i changed my vote to get a possible reaction
- Voting for me at that point of the game would do nothing. It is impossible for me to be lynched with just 1 vote. If he says his intent was to "lynch" me, I call BS.

wrong. there is no "unvote" option so to kill ace instead of citizen, all i have to do is switch my vote to anyone. why so defensive over a single vote?


I can see you have reading comprehension problems as well. I already said it is legit to vote for me, but your last minute action was obviously not intended to lynch me as it simply would not happen at that point. The entire post was to question your actions, not why or why not I should be lynched.

On March 30 2010 07:33 johnnyspazz wrote:
why so defensive over a single vote?

I repeat again, your reading sucks.

On March 30 2010 07:33 johnnyspazz wrote:
i tried to change my vote so that ace would die because of citi.zens final post before his death

i changed my vote to get a possible reaction


So like I mentioned above, if you wanted Ace dead you could have just voted for him. So you voted for me, just to see "a possible reaction", at the last minute, yeah sure.

Ace could very well be Mafia, and I have no problem voting for him next. But if you keep up your sketchy little moves like this, I'm inclined to vote for you first. There is a saying, "Dumb Townie or Mafia, both deserve to die".

Also,

On March 30 2010 07:43 nemY wrote:
Can we please just lynch Ace next time day comes around?

On March 30 2010 07:46 johnnyspazz wrote:
so you and fishball can autowin this game?
NO THANKS


So me, Nemy, Ace are all Mafia now right? Oh wait.

wtf fishball, do YOU have reading comprehension problems?
i knew ace got three votes first so yes he would've died no matter who i changed votes to, it just happened to be you. yes i did it to see if i got a reaction, maybe in hindsight it was dumb? but your reaction to a single vote is quite over the top.
i never said you,nemy, and ace are all mafia. are you retarded? i said you and nemy are mafia meaning ace is green. if we all lynch ace, the town auto loses because he is green.
also, yes please vote to kill me you stupid idiot, when you kill a dumb townie at this point of the game we instant lose. i thought you were the type to read everyone's posts carefully but i guess not.


lol, typical dumb argument. I'm not going to bother since I already said it once.

Anyways, just to point out something interesting.

On March 30 2010 07:33 johnnyspazz wrote:
i tried to change my vote so that ace would die

On March 30 2010 14:04 johnnyspazz wrote:
i knew ace got three votes first so yes he would've died no matter who i changed votes to

On March 30 2010 14:04 johnnyspazz wrote:
i said you and nemy are mafia meaning ace is green. if we all lynch ace, the town auto loses because he is green.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 30 2010 05:58 GMT
#299
I know English isn't your first language, but still...

Anyways, I'll vote whenever I want. Right now I'm just enjoying the ride.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 30 2010 13:01 GMT
#303
On March 30 2010 15:01 johnnyspazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 14:58 Fishball wrote:
I know English isn't your first language, but still...

Anyways, I'll vote whenever I want. Right now I'm just enjoying the ride.

man, maybe instead of acting like youre the shit, maybe you can help improve my reading comprehension skills eh?


If you want to "improve", first thing I suggest is to stop your little annoying bitchy attitude, stop twisting my words inside your own little world, and stop acting like a be-headed chicken running around. Just look at all your posts on page 15. Ask anyone, and see what they think of it.

On March 30 2010 14:59 johnnyspazz wrote:
w/e eff this game
##vote ace##

I'd say eff you.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 31 2010 00:02 GMT
#310
On March 31 2010 06:38 nemY wrote:
Anyways I'll try to bring the activity up by posting my top 3 suspects for now:

Excluding yourself, your top 3 list is 3 out of 4 remaining players. Just saying.

On March 31 2010 06:38 nemY wrote:
Fishball

The guy is normally semi-active/behind-the-scenes during previous mafia games, yet in this game he's posted jack shit. His only real contribution to the town has been his flawed "mafia list"

That was never a real mafia list, hence the statement: PURE SPECULATION.

On March 31 2010 06:38 nemY wrote:
Fishball admits that the list is flawed yet still tries to stick by/defend it

Please quote me "sticking" to it and "defending" it.

On March 31 2010 06:38 nemY wrote:
He then chooses to vote to lynch citi.zen after citi.zen attacks his list essentially calling it stupid, but offers up no real valid reason for why he's voting for citi.zen.

citi.zen used a flaw argument saying that I could be Mafia, where I already mentioned right there that I could very well be. Do all of you guys fail at reading? You make a mistake, I vote for you, pretty much that simple.

On March 31 2010 06:38 nemY wrote:
Make a play? What does that mean? citi.zen's trying to discredit your admittedly flawed list! Who wouldn't? IT FUCKING SUCKS. You yourself conceded that when you pointed out that the two blues were ON THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST.

1. I already said the list was pure speculation. You and citi.zen both failed to understand what that means.
2. I specifically mentioned in the post that I could very well be Mafia, and the Town need not believe everything I say. You and citi.zen both missed that as well.
3. Either citi.zen has bad comprehension skills (like the majority of players tbh), or he is playing dumb to "accuse" me, when all the stuff has ALREADY been covered in the first place. I actually think citi.zen is a decent player.

Just to elaborate more regarding the term "bad comprehension skills". It doesn't exactly mean the person is bad at reading and/or understanding, although those are the main causes. Another thing is people tend to skim through posts and just start to reply, which is actually even more annoying. A lot of information is lost in translation, key terms are missed, and people just start arguing over virtually nothing (Your post is a good example). This is also one of the reasons why I avoid long daily debates and tend to keep things to myself to a certain degree.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 31 2010 01:19 GMT
#313
On March 31 2010 09:10 nemY wrote:
I don't really have time to go through each point you made, but i'll do the best with what little time i have:

Show nested quote +
On March 31 2010 06:38 nemY wrote:
Fishball admits that the list is flawed yet still tries to stick by/defend it

Please quote me "sticking" to it and "defending" it.


Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 13:48 Fishball wrote:
nemY being in the bottom bracket which I mentioned before, and his out of nowhere behavior draws my attention.

I'm inclined to vote him or citi.zen, or maybe even RoL.


Unless i'm mistaken me being in the "bottom bracket" would mean you think i could be mafia because i'm "hypothetically" on the second half of your list. You're using your list as evidence to support your previous point (my "out of nowhere" behavior) thus you are defending its validity.


I'm only doing this once.

Definitions of "Speculation":
- a guess: a message expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence.
- a hypothesis that has been formed by speculating or conjecturing (usually with little hard evidence).

Search it up on Google. I've already underlined all the keywords for you.

What you've said is hardly evidence, or to say, even related to me "sticking" and "defending" my list. For example, if there is a list of 10 players, and I claim there must be a mafia among 1-3 and 8-10 respectively; A DT comes out and says No.5 is Mafia. I refuse to listen and say it is not possible due to X and Y reasons. THAT would be sticking to and defending my list.

So, I created this list purely for speculation (definition above!). What am I supposed to do after? Of course I'm going to speculate!

On March 28 2010 13:48 Fishball wrote:
nemY being in the bottom bracket which I mentioned before, and his out of nowhere behavior draws my attention.

I'm inclined to vote him or citi.zen, or maybe even RoL.


I never once said you ARE Mafia did I? Keywords are underlined. What is it again? Speculation!

On March 31 2010 06:38 nemY wrote:
You're using your list as evidence to support your previous point (my "out of nowhere" behavior) thus you are defending its validity.


Now after I re-read what you said above, seems like you got it all wrong in the first place.
- First off, my "out of nowhere" statement was AFTER the list, not before. (List on page 10, statement on page 12)
- Secondly, all that you've mentioned and quoted on me, I've already explained above. The entire thing is basically speculation, from one point to another. If they don't link, then it would be pointless wouldn't it?

On March 31 2010 09:10 nemY wrote:
I don't really have time to go through each point you made, but i'll do the best with what little time i have

It is quite convenient that among the 5 points I've replied to you, you choose the 3rd one. Sure it is one of the shortest lines, but the others aren't exactly very long either. To me, it's more like you have something to say and reply to regarding this point, but not the others.
I understand it is just normal human nature to avoid acknowledging things that are undesirable to your self interest (reminds me of L), but still.
Hey, god knows, maybe you really don't have time and you just eyeballed #3 and started replying.
This is all about specu... Never mind, I'm sick of this word now.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 31 2010 18:32 GMT
#316
haster27 has been quiet of late. In fact, TOO quiet. He haven't posted since page 12, which was well more than 3 days ago.
He has been active in the other game but not this one, even when we don't have that many players left.
If I had the power to kill someone, right here, right now, he would be my top pick.
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