World at War Mafia

On March 21 2010 16:46 Ace wrote:
are you gonna put your map down or sign up?

On March 23 2010 13:15 Zona wrote:
P.S. RoL is probably vanilla town or miller, since he was added as the extra player after roles had already gone out. It'd be termendously unbalancing to add another mafia member. And I doubt Ace would invent another third party role just for an extra player, although that probably would be the most balanced way of handling things.

On March 24 2010 03:59 XeliN wrote:
I'll respond if other people agree that it can't be interpreted in that way, otherwise your wrong.

screw it just to get this out of the way:
+ Show Spoiler +

If you still can't understand how I could misinterpret it then I'm just going to give up and call you an idiot ^^

On March 24 2010 08:37 ~OpZ~ wrote:
True...Abenson, Johnny, Don't just bandwagon. Give us a legitimate reason.

On March 24 2010 09:38 Iaaan wrote:


I have the same opinion of L as I do of you, you both just love pissing people off. But at least the two of you actually do shit.

I am not set on Abenson, lynching L would be silly for the reasons that have been posted, and Abenson is a reasonable alternative. I will listen to arguments against other people.

What makes Abenson a better target than L is that, L posts; if he is mafia we can catch him, while players like Abenson do not post, and since he has hopped on a ridiculous bandwagon, that is scummy. His actions point to him, L's do not. We will have lots of chances to analyze L's posting, we will not have many to analyze against players like Abenson.

Lynching someone for a completely useless reason, that they wont be around for a day and a night of the game is just scum trying to get the town to waste a lynch.

On March 24 2010 09:45 Iaaan wrote:
Oh, I forgot, Versatile helped get the bandwagon on L started, of course it hurts his e-peen to back down from his brilliant lynching plan >.>

On March 25 2010 01:06 d3_crescentia wrote:
Lunchtiem. Don't really feel too strongly for anyone right now, though I'd rather vote L than Abenson, because L could dick over the town way harder. Abenson, well, doesn't really *do* anything so we can lynch him anytime.

##vote L

On March 25 2010 05:56 nemY wrote:


and you folks still think it's a good idea to lynch somebody who's almost unbanned? Pure genius on the following:
tree.hugger
Versatile
Abenson
Fishball
RebirthofLegend
~Opz~
d3_crescentia

On March 25 2010 06:51 Elemenope wrote:



And the way we resolve this is generally, we lynch one. First day roleclaims are the shittiest thing ever as they detract discussion.

If Abenson and OpZ are on the same side as you imply, why not lynch one and we get the validity of the other? The claims can be tested later yeah, but what if we simply don't have time later due to future complications? It'd be better to get rid of one now and then now where the other stands.

On March 25 2010 06:53 Nikon wrote:
Assuming, they're masons, can we be sure that they're only 2? There probably is a third person in the circle. Just saying...

On March 26 2010 00:04 haster27 wrote:


How can we role-claim to him without getting it also known by anyone else when PM is prohibited?

On March 26 2010 01:16 meeple wrote:


C'mon that's not really necessary... There have been several people who got caught up on the rules in this game. It's bound to happen. Being condescending about it just starts flamewars and pisses people off.

On March 26 2010 01:29 ~OpZ~ wrote:

You can be rather rude homie...Although it reminds me of Showtime. Downside, Flamewars between townies. Upside, piss off a weak mafia member, and you made townie day. Chances are the first is more probable.

=P

On March 26 2010 03:51 Bill Murray wrote:


I disliked your encouraging of people to come off of voting for RoL, and now you vote for him?

also, no I did not imply I have a special role with having anti-nukes, I am actually not one of the larger nuclear powers.

On March 26 2010 04:29 Bill Murray wrote:


I couldn't care less. You've been flip flopping so hard in the past couple pages if it wouldn't be anti-town I'd nuke the shit out of you.

On March 26 2010 04:39 Amber[LighT] wrote:
BTW once again for the records RoL is not a great player, Ace could tell you that but he's restraining... I know it

On March 26 2010 12:13 L wrote:
Please take responsibility if it lands. You and tree.hugger both.

On March 26 2010 12:38 johnnyspazz wrote:
whoa calm down buddy jesus

On March 27 2010 04:24 Bill Murray wrote:
Unless someone gives me a reason not to other than "it will make you look like mafia", I'm going to be anti-nuking the nuke that is going at L soon. I would rather use what I have than get capped in the night by mafia and have it be unused.

On March 27 2010 04:36 Bill Murray wrote:
The longer this goes on, the more I begin to trust L's read. Versatile, why so scummy?

On March 27 2010 15:43 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Well...Versatile deserves to die, and if BM's is anti'd I'll consider launching my nuke too...

L...if you aren't about to be saved, please launch a fake at me so I'll have time to react and Nuke the piss outta versatile.....

Actually, Launch it at Caller just in case
=D

Also, L. I can't guarantee you protection, but I sure as fuck hope you get protected. I also feel Japan is probably Mafia aligned. Abenson said the idea to me, but he used the context of ww2. But that is irrelevant correlation in my opinion. Japan hasn't stepped forward to explain the reasoning, and I by no means intended to vote for whoever claimed it. They should of let it hit caller as he hasn't contributed yet. We could of used that to protect someone that actually has posted a considerable amount of content and ideas. Poked and prodded many players. He's being killed why? Not because he's scummy, but because people find him annoying? Why do people find him annoying? Because he refuses to be told he's wrong? That's some bull shit. Ace does this too., but we hardly see this argument used against Ace.

It's a very useful way to argue in mafia honestly. Town aligned or mafia aligned. It gathers a lot of information.

So I fully support another anti-nuke again to save L. Versatile...Would you like to see what the world looks like in Fall Out 3?

On March 28 2010 03:16 JeeJee wrote:
i fucking hate you all
fuck you.
i have nothing more to add. we all know my stance on nukes, and we definitely know my stance on nuking L.

fuck you verse, fuck you everyone who launched a nuke

just, fuck you.
i am so pissed because it looks like we are fucking going to lose this game just like the everyone-has-a-gun game because hey, the moment people get the ability to kill people at whim, they suddenly decide to exercise it because its the FUCKING INTERNET

fuck you.

On March 28 2010 05:03 JeeJee wrote:


i disagree. if you notice, the chaos right now (as i have posted right before ace's huge picture post) is caused by people who initially voted for L to get lynched on day 1 for no adequate reason (and no, as i have outlined many many times in this thread, him being banned for two real-time days, not game-days, is NOT an adequate reason). L is usually a big asset to whichever side he's on, it's just that idiots take some of his comments to heart and think he's attacking them instead of their logic. which he sometimes is, but hey, he's right more often than not. have to take the good with the bad.

obviously i would love both bm and L saved, as they have both been acting pro-town so far, and i am fairly confident in stating that verse is probably mafia. plus, the other people on that list (treehugger, fishball and d3) haven't been that helpful either. there is quite likely to be another mafia among that list. so saying that the nukes are being launched out of spite by townies as opposed to mafia wanting to wreak havoc on the town and kill pro-town players is stupid, imo.

On March 28 2010 04:44 Iaaan wrote:
I am happy that elemenope has been saved, since his nuke was probably launched by mafia.

I want all the nukes in the air to fall, none of the players being nuked are confirmed townies. Assuming that the town is stupid, and that the mafia are saving their nukes, it makes sense that we should save our anti nukes for when it is more likely mafia nukes that have been launched, otherwise the mafia will have a huge amount of KP.

I think it is suspicious that Bill Murray and L are supporting each other after what has happened in the past. I think they could easily be mafia defending each other/using chainsaw defense with nukes/antinukes. I don't see any solid reason that people (haster, sup) are defending them, other than that they feel they are town.

On March 28 2010 05:32 Bill Murray wrote:



No, you are the obvious cancer to the town. You, tree.hugger, and whoever else are trying to get rid of people who are obvtown.

The fact that the rest of the thread haven't cracked down on you shows me that they either have no nukes, have no balls, or haven't read the thread.

On March 28 2010 05:42 Amber[LighT] wrote:
And Versatile don't act like I haven't been active this game. Just because I'm not posting during the shit-flinging contest doesn't mean I should be "looked at."

On March 28 2010 05:42 Amber[LighT] wrote:






Page 53 for reference.

If you read the first few pages of this thread you should know of my stance on nuking. I'm not going to re-iterate what I said, but JeeJee and I have been on the same wavelength for the past 50 or so pages. I voted for L originally and then moved to Abenson, didn't remove since the mob went for RoL, who I figured was just being a complete faggot (check page 33 or so where I called him out for being a retard).

I didn't believe RoL was mafia, but he went against the policy I assumed the town agreed on, which was "NO NUKING!" The lynch was justifiable so I can't sit and point fingers.

I have nothing to say about the recent nuke-happy players. As I quoted from the bottom of Page 53 I asked a sarcastic question. What more can I ask since the town as completely abandoned playing this game with any structure.

On March 28 2010 06:30 L wrote:
Lol i had a power outage. Sup brosefs. Business:

1) Versatile. You're a cool cat, but put everything you want to say in 1 post, and then stop talking. That way we know precisely what you wanted to tell the town if you flip green.

That said, if you do indeed flip green, It'll be be a pretty solid indication that you're now officially shittier than amber and vivi. Way to go completely fucking the other game up too. gj. Couldn't settle for one complete flame out, could you?

2) Who to kill if I do indeed die? First off clear the list of people who tried to vote me starting based on the players who have the weakest excuses first, then move to meeple and Iaaan.

3) ~Opz~, if you still want me to launch fake nukes feel free to ask.

4) tree.hugger still needs to die before he has the chance at throwing out another nuke at anyone.

On March 28 2010 09:46 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Versatile...I agree with your list of suspects for the most part...And actually think you're probably townie. A jack ass, but a townie.

-_-...Our eyes will be opened up in a very short time...But again...

L please extend the day by launching the fake at Caller...who knows, he might actually post then.

On March 28 2010 07:28 Bill Murray wrote:


how about you attack my arguments instead of attacking me?

oh wait, too late in two senses.
moron.

On March 28 2010 10:52 L wrote:

Why wouldn't you retaliate to being lynched either?

If town is attacking town, wasn't that directly caused by you and your gang of fucking nitwits? You're a fucking huge box of hypocritical puss.

Here's the high ground: We nuke every player who nukes without the consent of the town. Period. If anyone else nukes, they know they're going to die for it. If townies want to nuke, cool beans, but they'll know the ToD is going to go up twice. The fact that tree.hugger and xelin haven't been nuked yet is a HUGE clue that they're mafia. If mafia saw both of them as guilt free nuke targets, they would have unleashed their shit a while ago while high fiving that they're listening to the town.

So, once again; kill the morons who have nuked, then just stop fucking firing shit. Period. This is the only way forward without us getting into the exact same mess tomorrow. Everyone who's fired nukes has said "I've done bad shit, but lets look to the future.".

What future? You nuking again in a day and saying "I've done bad shit, but lets look to the future" again?

On March 28 2010 05:34 Versatile wrote:


since i'm going to be dying soon, i just want to give the town a few tidbits to work with in my absence. don't let my i-don't-give-a-fcuk-ness dissuade you from giving to the town and winning this thing.

anyone agreeing with me is most likely mafia. especially iaaan. please take the time to go through his posts. he's very bad @ covering up his mafia intentions. this is easy for me to see because he's pretty much been on the same page as me during this entire game. i know what my motivations are, but i believe his to be somewhat more sinister. just my opinion

next: caller. as we all know, when caller is innocent, there is NO WAY to get away from him. a couple of mafia games ago, he was mafia and he posted very, very little. this is incredibly suspect. his posting style changes dramatically when he's town vs. mafia, so unless he's got something going on IRL that's serious (beyond school, work, etc) then you all should take a close look at him.

secondly. anyone hit by an anonymous nuke is most likely town. but anyone saved by anonymous anti-nuke is some to look closely at. i think LMNOP is pro-town but i'd probably still keep my on him.

and in general, the town needs to be looking closely at and asking for more from:

iaaan
caller
amberlight
nemy
d3_crescentia
xelin
nikon
fishball


have a good game y'all. i'll try to stick around 'til i die and see if i can add more.

On March 28 2010 15:00 Iaaan wrote:
I want to point out that the mafia will have been sitting around laughing at us while we were screwing ourselves. There was no reason for them to post anything to screw up the town because we were doing it for them. So the people who haven't posted much in a reasonable amount of time I think should be called attention to:
2. d3_crescentia
3. JeeJee
7. Amber[LighT]
8. Caller
12. Zona
14. Fishball
16. meeple
18. Nikon
20. nemy

People who voted against L originally for no reason other than that he was banned are Fishball and d3. Versatile and tree.hugger also voted for L for no reason, and used nukes stupidly. These four people are who I think should be lynched. Verse will probably be hit with a nuke soon.

Verse and tree.hugger both nuked L, looking at it from a mafia's perspective, they would know that L is town, and a veteran/useful player; thus they would have motivation to nuke him past just being pissed off at him.

And I can see why people are suspicious of me, I haven't really been posting much rational behind my thoughts, but just my thoughts themselves. I've been busy/lazy, but like foolishness says, no one cares. But I acknowledge the accusations at least, and will try to respond to them, and point to people that I think are more suspicious than me.

On March 28 2010 15:33 L wrote:

Nah he's a G.

On March 29 2010 01:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
And let me emphasize...Not just because he's N.K. but because he fired a nuke without town judgement, because he fired a nuke unprovoked, and because he fired it anonymously. Why on gods green earth would you admit that?
I mean...I would have to think you were...well I can't take it uncivil, to maybe Versatile will for me?

But, uh...Yea...You seen Japan wouldn't come forward, what makes you think whoever anti'd it would...

On March 29 2010 01:49 tree.hugger wrote:
~OpZ~, I've read your posts on the last two pages, and I have absolutely no idea what you're advocating. Absolutely none. Your wall-of-text has nothing holding it together, I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to prove.

You've advocated Day 2 lynching me, then XeliN, and then Caller over the last two pages.

Please stop spamming the thread. You, Versatile, Abenson, and the rest of your mafia compatriots should probably stop attracting more suspicion.

On March 29 2010 02:10 XeliN wrote:
Ok I'd like to highlight this, if Tree.Hugger is lynched tomorrow and flips red then Versatile is going to be red as well, Tree's early post grouping "and opz versatile abenson" was very strange and tbh the post versatile just made as well as his seems to me forced mafia interaction, i.e. fake.

This is simply a hypothesis if Tree flips red upon death.

On March 29 2010 02:10 Nikon wrote:


So... do you think he's going to get saved from the nuke?

On March 29 2010 02:15 haster27 wrote:
I strongly believe Versatile is Mafia for several reasons.

Let me first point you to the first point I have against her. This is a direct quote. With second point, it seems like Versatile is pro-town player who is interested in keeping order at the Town. Yet at this moment, she is responsible for greatest chaos in this game and have caused death of two Town players. I cannot comprehend why she would metamorphosis into raging monster like this, only to "[turn] over a new leaf" when L is finally dead. Mafia players generally try to conceal themselves by following the atmosphere of the town (often vote bandwagoning); as same way, she could have tried to downplay significance of her nuke in all hate and panic caused by tree.hugger nuke launch.

Also may I state that the idea she proposed is highly illogical. It adds unnecessarily complexity to the revenge-nuke plan, and the loss from following this plan (Mafia finding out who has nukes) far overpowers the possible gain (prevents two townie from launching nuke at the same time unintentionally). Since nuke seems to Town's main and possibly only source of killing besides lynching (statement justified by the fact that even RoL's special abilities has been executed by means of the nuke), any move trying to find out owner of nukes and anti-nukes is anti-town.

Third, I certainly do not understand why she would have anti-nuked Bill Murray. I understand Townie taking action into one's own hands to get suspect he or she is 100% certain about, but why would one counter-nuke the person who is just trying to follow the protocol of revenge-nuke plan? Even if she is not Mafia, this move is so anti-town that I'll feel no guilt even if she flips Town after she is killed.

Only one thing initially hesitated me from lynching Versatile, and it is that BM's nuke flying toward her has not been intercepted. But once upon thought, Mafia will not intercept the nuke going toward her even if Versatile was Mafia. Versatile is non-concensus nuker whose crusade against L has been proved to be soundly wrong. There is no reason for Town to save her, and in fact considering how much non-concensus nuker Town has, Townie would be relieved that BM's nuke will take their hands off the matter of having to deal with killing Versatile.

Thus saving Versatile will be waste of anti-nuke b/c it will immediately make her clear suspect, and likely to be lynched off day 2. In fact I find that it will be more likely for Mafia to save her if Versatile had been Townie, so they can bandwagon against her day 2 and soak up the lynch.

On March 29 2010 02:16 XeliN wrote:
All of it is hypothetical on Tree flipping red, if he does then yeah I'd consider you a possible partner in crime. Also you did vote for L, something you yourself list as a suspicious action and have currently Nuked a town alligned player. I have my eye on you....

On March 29 2010 02:49 haster27 wrote:
Point 1: It has nothing to do with what you said, nor the "standard" behaviour of Mafia. I am just confused why you would reverse your position all of the sudden. I mean, I thought you tried to establish order in the Town, yet you suddenly started rampaging.

Point 2: The problem is if person A/B do not have nukes, they are going to say they do not have the nukes- which will continue on before we reach the person who has the nukes. However, at that point, the number of the players in the potential nuke-having Townies list for Mafia to pick from will have been reduced more than necessary. And yeah, ignore anti-nukes part.

Point 3: It is neutral move. It cannot be proved as either pro-town or anti-town move unless the alignment of the players because even if you flip Mafia, the list you posted will simply be WIFOM'd to death.

Point 4: I am assuming Mafia do not have that much anti-nukes here. If then, they will try to use anti-nuke more efficiently. Saving someone targetted by another one of non-concensus nuker Townie is more beneficial than saving someone who will clearly be under lot of suspicion after saving.

However, I agree with your post, which is why my plan does not involve nuking you day 1. I will push you farther down the lynch list when new suspect appears.

On March 29 2010 03:09 JeeJee wrote:


ok, fair enough. guess our minds are wired differently, as you can see the first conclusion i thought of was that mafia may have no anti-nukes. it just seemed you were so sure, which stood out to me, to say the least.

On March 29 2010 02:02 Versatile wrote:
i agree with waiting out the rest of the day and night. as i stated before, if we launch any nukes at mafia, i think they will just shoot them down. lynching is the only surefire way of getting a red out of the game.

i'll say it one more time: i am not going to fire again without town consent. i have no reason to at this point.

also, there have been plenty of people who the town has suspected. to decide how to lynch them, i say we rank them in order of most suspect. here is my list, make your own if you don't agree with it.

1. caller: was anonymously saved and has posted very little. little to no posting is a mafia tell for him.
2. iaaan: scummy posting style pointed out by several players.
3. tree.hugger/versatile/xelin: for non-consensus nuking.

suspicious: LMNOP for attacking opz and abenson after mason claim. the one thing i'd like to point out here is that L also advocated for killing one to prove the other if i am remembering correctly, and he was a towny. and i believe one other person did the same as well.

then there is zona's inactive list, L's vote list, and the list i posted.

L's vote list (as of page 21):
tree.hugger
Versatile
Abenson
Fishball
RebirthofLegend
~Opz~
d3_crescentia

zona's latest inactive list:
iNfuNdiBuLuM: 31
JeeJee: 30
Iaaan: 29
meeple: 28
Fishball: 26
Amber[LighT]: 26
Nikon: 18
d3_crescentia: 14
nemY: 13
Abenson: 12
Caller: 12
Phrujbaz: 2

Versatile's suspect list:
iaaan
caller
amberlight
nemy
d3_crescentia
xelin
nikon
fishball


i'd just like to point out that fishball and d3_crescentia are on all three of those lists. just something to note. not putting FoS on them, but the fact that they're on 3 different lists, all of which were formed with different criteria speaks to the need for both to give more to the town and a necessary increase in pro-town behavior. abenson, nikon, iaaan, amberlight, nemy and caller are on two of those lists each. abenson voted for L to save himself and told us he was going to be inactive so i believe it's safe to cross him off. nemy has been kind of inactive in both this game and zona's game, so that's something to take into consideration.

i also think it may be interesting to see how zona's inactive lists have changed over the course of the game. not saying we will definitely get something useful out of them, but we should be looking for patterns.

i welcome thoughts and opinions on this post.

On March 29 2010 10:39 tree.hugger wrote:


I'm pretty sure our lynch targets are:

~Opz~

Because, (and maybe others can vouch for me on this one) your attitude is really really annoying. Better have a town taken over by mafia, then have a town in which people like you are allowed to live.

On March 30 2010 02:10 Nikon wrote:


Yeah, look how well that went with RoL.

On March 30 2010 02:13 ~OpZ~ wrote:
You're nuke on L wouldn't of went through if I had them...Really Versatile...You should of guessed that much.

On March 30 2010 02:16 Nikon wrote:


You shouldn't be the one to talk. Also, paraphrasing the late tree.hugger, what's the rush to get to the night?

On March 30 2010 02:33 Nikon wrote:


What? That's your explanation for why I'm a suspect? That's trash. Versatile, you're #1 suspect right now. I suggest you do better or you're being lynched tomorrow.

Seriously, you guys just amaze me.

On March 30 2010 02:36 Nikon wrote:


Provide a reason for why I'm mafia.

On March 30 2010 02:38 Nikon wrote:


I thought it was agreed that my nuke would be shot down due to increased ToD. It's pretty amazing indeed, how you just jumped in the last page of the thread, saw that I nuked and decided that I'm mafia. Kinda cute how your buddy amber is helping you out here, don't you think?

On March 30 2010 06:45 Amber[LighT] wrote:
sorry versatile I didn't see that post

On March 30 2010 09:55 Qatol wrote:

Not everyone! I totally got a hug!

Suck it rest of TL mafia!

On March 31 2010 14:16 XeliN wrote:
Also presumably a Vigilante type role used their ability to kill Meeple during the night

On March 31 2010 14:18 XeliN wrote:
If you wish AIDS upon me simply coming round for a night might be quicker than lynching...

On March 31 2010 14:38 XeliN wrote:
I'm going to stop posting for abit, I consider Zona mafia, I'm not going to elaborate on that for various reasons and just going to let my nuke chill up in the sky.

And vers you kinda missed the meaning of my post.

On April 01 2010 15:16 Elemenope wrote:
I come back and I see some interesting things.

First off, Iaaan's ability claim is a fairly interesting one. I only have one question to ask though - would you be willing to be nuked by someone to confirm this? If not, why not?

As for fishball's message:


I still don't see the reasoning behind this nuke quite honestly. For one, it was largely last moment, I think within the last 5 minutes, no? Two: It's directed at, at least in my opinion, a very pro-town player. And three: it ended up using an anti-nuke. True, we can't confirm the legitimacy of your nuke, but we also can't prove this unless we use Iaaan's claim which I'll address later.



Going with the assumption that a) Fishball is a tracker who b) can target one person each night and follow that person, it sort of makes sense that Fishball hasn't posted largely during day 1. Caller did seem quite suspicious so I can see why Fishball would track him.

This hinges on the assumption though, that Fishball is indeed a tracker. His story does make sense and gives justifications to his actions back on the eternal Day 1 with him not posting as much. I assume this was to not seem high-priority, though you can correct me if it was done for a different reason.



I'm not sure where to start with this. I don't know whether to say it's conjured up because fishball tracked him, or if this is the case. What I'm confused about is why Nikon? For both sides actually. Nikon was suspicious, at least in my eyes, for firing the nuke on Zona. So I can slightly understand the DT check, though I think it'd be better served on a few other players. As for the bus, I haven't an idea why Nikon and meeple be switched. The whole thing looks a bit sketchy to me and I'd keep an eye on this personally.

lol@the youtube video

Now, given that Zona's confirmed vigilante, let's look at this post:


This should be noted and kept in mind. We'll have to look at what Caller posts in terms of information and veracity in order to ascertain his role claim. This also extends to Fishball as well. Since both of these players have roleclaimed, there's no reason for them to withhold any of their night actions once the Day post goes up each time, unless someone can show me otherwise.





I find this particular piece of information to be a bit troublesome. Someone has had their nuclear weapons stolen. It's particularly troublesome if indeed that this ability is within mafia realm. Especially with the fuckup of Day 1, we are already at Moderate, which is assuming that we have reached approximately half of the ToD. With no mafia found yet, I only hope we have enough anti-nukes to fend off any surprise nuke raid or such.



This is vital. Guys, the first day really set us back. We are down *several* people due to impulsiveness. 3 people are going to die every day barring medic-prots and no-lynches. With no-lynches, we are still going down 2 people every day. We currently have 13 players alive going into night phase which means we may potentially sit at 11 players coming out. We absolutely need to find scum asap.




This. Townies have no reason to lie. The objective of this game isn’t to ‘survive’ or ‘kill all the mafia yourself’, it’s to get rid of all the scum as a whole. The whole reason we are together as a town is because we need to play as a collective town. This impulsive nuke shooting really set us back a lot on day 1, and now on day 2, we’re down another two blues because one of them had a feeling. It is imperative that we work as a town instead of just doing what we feel like individually.

I have a plan that I would like implement tomorrow that does involve roleclaiming after the day post; however, DO NOT ROLE CLAIM TONIGHT. You can roleclaim after the day post goes up, that’s fine. You can wait until after my plan. Whatever. Just whatever you do, do not role claim during this night.

For tomorrow
I would like to see the results of the findings from both Fishball and Caller, explaining why they also chose whoever they chose to track/investigate. With this information, and the role claiming tomorrow, then I hope we can make up for the mishaps during days 1 and 2 and win.

If anybody is in opposition of the roleclaiming on day 3
I’d like to hear reasons why. There may have been something I’ve overlooked and it’s really important we get a good solid plan, so I’m open to criticism, suggestions, or changes to the roleclaiming idea.

On April 02 2010 03:03 ~OpZ~ wrote:

We got a tracker and a...weird dt....claim....so...

-_-...So much bs nuking...Guess I can't talk much, but at least my target was a suspect. -_- GOD dammit Xelin and Versatile ><