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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 21 2010 07:44 GMT
#18
*looks @ 2nd spoiler in OP*

mogadishu isn't a country, asshole.

smh.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 22 2010 15:04 GMT
#62
On March 21 2010 16:46 Ace wrote:
are you gonna put your map down or sign up?


yeah, i guess.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 22 2010 19:59 GMT
#85
if bill plays, i say he's only allowed 50 posts.

insta-nuke of he posts 51 or more.

maybe that'll make him think twice about posting 9845984760934 million times in a row.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 23 2010 15:08 GMT
#185
On March 23 2010 13:15 Zona wrote:
P.S. RoL is probably vanilla town or miller, since he was added as the extra player after roles had already gone out. It'd be termendously unbalancing to add another mafia member. And I doubt Ace would invent another third party role just for an extra player, although that probably would be the most balanced way of handling things.


uh, just to address this. ace is fcukin crazy. no one's alignment, even though RoL was added in at the last minute, is for certain. don't make this mistake.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 23 2010 16:36 GMT
#199
maybe everyone needs to take 10mins and read through the rules VERY CAREFULLY.

knowing the rules is important to town victory, but it's not necessarily fair to the mafia team if the mod keeps coming in and correcting town stupidity, as town stupidity is one of the mafia's tools to win.

get it right, get it tight.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 23 2010 16:43 GMT
#202
as far as someone nuking without town consensus, how about they get nuked by the person above/below them in the list? this would help in beginning to determine who may have what "powers".

also, there's all this discussion about how to punish someone for nuking without town consensus, but no discussion on how we decide who does nuke. and how to figure out who has nuking capabilities. i think some altered form of 789/ace's plan in the caller game might be useful here.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 23 2010 17:14 GMT
#209
all i'm saying is, we're trying to create town order.

so when the town decides person A needs to be nuked, how do we stop persons B-J from all firing a nuke @ him and ending the game?

we have to think about this if we're trying to avoid chaos.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 23 2010 17:39 GMT
#213
well then, it's time to decide how many nukes are going to be lobbed then, aye?

there needs to be an established game plan, asap. if there isn't, as soon as the first nuke is launched, there's going to be mass-hysteria and confusion. mafia will take advtange of this. there must be a plan of action that can be carried out right away if/when this happens, and people need to know the consequences for their actions.

otherwise, this is what's going to happen:

person A: ##nuke your mafia ass, person B.
person B: oh hell nah, ##nuke your ass back, person A.
mafia 1: wth, person A and person B, what y'all doing? ##nuke both your hoe asses.


this needs to be decided and set in stone RIGHT AWAY. if a nuke is launched before it is, give up all hope of town order as far as nuking goes.

@ this point, i haven't see a single reason why someone wouldn't nuke. someone could do it, and say oopsie daisy, kill me if you want. and then you have to convince 12 people to lynch this lone wolf. and who knows how many mafia are even in this game who can screw with that count?

i applaud the efforts of zona and whoever else so far, but we need faster action.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 23 2010 18:04 GMT
#221
it's probably a good idea to @ least call me Vers if you're going to shorten my name (which i have no problem with) just so there isn't any confusion about me vs. Ver.

zona, will you post your revised and complete plan again? just so it's on the latest page, and for easy reference. i would hope many players who have yet to check in would be arriving soon.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 23 2010 19:19 GMT
#253
On March 24 2010 03:59 XeliN wrote:
I'll respond if other people agree that it can't be interpreted in that way, otherwise your wrong.

screw it just to get this out of the way:
+ Show Spoiler +


On March 24 2010 03:30 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2010 02:04 XeliN wrote:
L being banned for 2 days in my eyes means he is not a viable candidate to be lynched, although the posts he has made already I disagree with but that might simply be because he's L and thats my general reaction to whatever he posts.

As to the idea of retaliation against a player who has an itchy trigger finger, we have the perfect form of retaliation. We lynch them. Or to put it more bluntly

Any player launching a nuke against another without at the very least providing coherent argument for doing so will be lynched. Furthermore the only instance whereby we would launch against a player who acts in this way would be if we already have a good candidate for lynching, then we will nuke or multiple nuke them (I am of the opinion that 2 ought to be enough)

To get things started off in the voting section I am going to be Voting ~OpZ~

His post earlier on both seemed different in style to the way he posted in the last game and also was riddled with subtle "I am town" choice of wording, something I consciously made an effort to do in the last game I was mafia so guess I'll go along with my instinct here.


To me, the tone OpZ used gives me the impression that he has the power to nuke. Doesn't feel scummy to me at this point of the game though. If you're Mafia, that would be a dumb way to get unwanted attention.


Firstly you are quoting me, so when you wrote "If you're Mafia", I took it to be me. Think the misinterpretation lies in the word "that", I took it to refer to the post you quoted of mine//my voting and reasoning in voting for OpZ and not to what OpZ wrote.



If you still can't understand how I could misinterpret it then I'm just going to give up and call you an idiot ^^


lol @ calling someone an idiot when you misinterpreted. that's really stupid. and rude. just say, oops, my bad, yo and move on. why so sensitive?
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 23 2010 20:04 GMT
#267
okay, all the quote eff ups have kept me from reading your post in entirety. i can't handle it.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 23 2010 20:28 GMT
#269
and if L is banned anyway, why not kill him? i don't think we have any better targets as it is day 1 and it's hard to determine who is an illogical idiot vs. who's mafia parading around as an idiot.

further, i bet if anyone else was in L's position, he'd probably be advocating for their death. it's a course of action that makes sense.

##i vote L unless another someone else does something incredibly stupid.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 23 2010 23:48 GMT
#287
so what makes abenson a better target, iaaan? for the most part, everyone is just as dumb as everyone else. the only thing that makes L different is he got himself banned.

what's the issue? what big grand plan did he come up with to implement before he got himself banned?

listen. i don't care who it is, the dude got himself banned. period. he won't be active for two days. i'm usually for not lynching anyone on the first day because there is so little to go on, but since we've got someone sitting right there who will not benefit the town for two days, why not lynch them?

honestly, if it was some other player, there would probably not be so much protesting to keep L alive. hop off his dick for a second and look for reason, loser.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 23 2010 23:50 GMT
#288
On March 24 2010 08:37 ~OpZ~ wrote:
True...Abenson, Johnny, Don't just bandwagon. Give us a legitimate reason.


oh.muh.gawd. give a legitimate reason for voting for someone? you say, DON'T bandwagon? what novel ideas.

(that's how you do sarcasm, buddy.)
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 23 2010 23:51 GMT
#289
ps: lmao @ nemy getting voted for in both games, haha.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 24 2010 01:05 GMT
#301
On March 24 2010 09:38 Iaaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2010 08:48 Versatile wrote:
so what makes abenson a better target, iaaan? for the most part, everyone is just as dumb as everyone else. the only thing that makes L different is he got himself banned.

what's the issue? what big grand plan did he come up with to implement before he got himself banned?

listen. i don't care who it is, the dude got himself banned. period. he won't be active for two days. i'm usually for not lynching anyone on the first day because there is so little to go on, but since we've got someone sitting right there who will not benefit the town for two days, why not lynch them?

honestly, if it was some other player, there would probably not be so much protesting to keep L alive. hop off his dick for a second and look for reason, loser.


I have the same opinion of L as I do of you, you both just love pissing people off. But at least the two of you actually do shit.

I am not set on Abenson, lynching L would be silly for the reasons that have been posted, and Abenson is a reasonable alternative. I will listen to arguments against other people.

What makes Abenson a better target than L is that, L posts; if he is mafia we can catch him, while players like Abenson do not post, and since he has hopped on a ridiculous bandwagon, that is scummy. His actions point to him, L's do not. We will have lots of chances to analyze L's posting, we will not have many to analyze against players like Abenson.

Lynching someone for a completely useless reason, that they wont be around for a day and a night of the game is just scum trying to get the town to waste a lynch.


On March 24 2010 09:45 Iaaan wrote:
Oh, I forgot, Versatile helped get the bandwagon on L started, of course it hurts his e-peen to back down from his brilliant lynching plan >.>



haha. nice. an actual response, and then a jab. thank god everyone isn't a crybaby. seeing as how ace is the mod, everyone needs to check their emotions @ the door.

i don't believe i got the bandwagon going, as there were votes for L before i said a word regarding voting for him. i just don't think he's a bad lynch candidate.

in any case, i don't especially care who gets lynched first. the likelihood of it being mafia is just so ridiculously low. to me, it makes sense to lynch L and unless someone better comes along, i'll keep my vote there.

ps: my e-peen's a monster yo, be very afraid. i might smack you in the forehead with it. owwwww!
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 24 2010 16:31 GMT
#353
On March 25 2010 01:06 d3_crescentia wrote:
Lunchtiem. Don't really feel too strongly for anyone right now, though I'd rather vote L than Abenson, because L could dick over the town way harder. Abenson, well, doesn't really *do* anything so we can lynch him anytime.

##vote L


lmao. worse.reasoning.ever.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 24 2010 21:03 GMT
#379
On March 25 2010 05:56 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2010 05:37 JeeJee wrote:
On March 25 2010 05:20 Abenson wrote:
Hooray
I'm back and I basically find that I'm gonna end up dying if I don’t post anything soon :O
Anyways, I think I have proven myself quite active in the past few games, even if the post are all crap not very useful, I still am active in terms of posting. Therefore I think that we shouldn’t just simply lynch me on day 1 because I was inactive for the first few hours of the game.


first few hours huh.
or maybe we could look at your history instead
so, when the game started, you post /confirm
then 18 hours later you make a one-liner post, voting for L (we all know how i feel about that)
now 24 hours later (that's 42 in total for those keeping track) you come out with this.

For you to sway people's votes, you'd have to at least come out of lurking, name some suspects, analyze the plans, give us content. you've had almost two full days to do this. that's a tad more than "first few hours". hell, L is almost unbanned by now.


and you folks still think it's a good idea to lynch somebody who's almost unbanned? Pure genius on the following:
tree.hugger
Versatile
Abenson
Fishball
RebirthofLegend
~Opz~
d3_crescentia


careful now. i get kinda sensitive when i'm grouped up with a bunch of other people. i'm far superior. don't forget it.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 24 2010 21:21 GMT
#384
my issue with voting absenson: L was the first person to suggest him. and now L's gone, but magically all these people are still pushing for his death?

if it was only the inactivity claim, i could roll with that, but that combined with him being L's lynch choice doesn't sit well with me. it's too convenient.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 24 2010 21:55 GMT
#403
zona, that sounds similiar to the sibling role.

however, with the sibling role, all that is certain is that you die when your sibling dies, but it does guarantee that either player is town or mafia.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 24 2010 22:01 GMT
#407
On March 25 2010 06:51 Elemenope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2010 06:48 Zona wrote:
I didn't assume that his role was entirely just a Mason. I clarified with my subsequent post that his claim involved a role with mason abilities.

Of course anyone can lie. But I'm willing to put of lynching those who role claim right away as:
- the claims can be tested easily later
- there's still a fuckton of other inactive players that are as much deadweight as Abenson was.

I do agree Abenson needs to confirm that the spoke with each other. But it would be pretty silly for OpZ to throw himself out there for Abenson if they weren't on the same team.

I totally agree how his earlier post to use nukes if he was lynched was an anti-town declaration. Still, I think the claim, once confirmed by Abenson, is enough to put me off voting for them day 1. Of course we should keep a very close eye on them for the coming days.



And the way we resolve this is generally, we lynch one. First day roleclaims are the shittiest thing ever as they detract discussion.

If Abenson and OpZ are on the same side as you imply, why not lynch one and we get the validity of the other? The claims can be tested later yeah, but what if we simply don't have time later due to future complications? It'd be better to get rid of one now and then now where the other stands.


even if they are masons, it does not guarantee that they are both either town or mafia.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 24 2010 22:01 GMT
#408
On March 25 2010 06:53 Nikon wrote:
Assuming, they're masons, can we be sure that they're only 2? There probably is a third person in the circle. Just saying...


why?
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 24 2010 22:13 GMT
#418
i agree with zona.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 24 2010 22:23 GMT
#427
if it were a claimed DT vs.someone a DT said came up red, then that makes sense @elemenope.

but not with this format. and not yet.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 24 2010 23:55 GMT
#477
lmao wtf.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 25 2010 00:00 GMT
#481
##RoL

sorry dude. following the town's rule of lynching the no-town consensus nuker.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 25 2010 00:07 GMT
#486
hey, just a question here. why does everyone think mafia has only 1KP?

the OP states "Mafia have night kills just like in normal games. Mafia can kill 1 player per night no matter how many of them are alive".

however, that doesn't mean that they cannot have a higher KP. did ace address that somewhere else where i may have missed it? or is this just a town assumption based on the wording?
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 25 2010 15:52 GMT
#649
##abstain

i understand RoL broke the town rule, but i think it's pretty clear he's towny. we need to look @ other targets.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 25 2010 15:58 GMT
#650
ps: is anyone besides me (and probably the mafia) noting that BM pretty much claimed a special role by offering up anti-nukes to save caller?
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 25 2010 16:09 GMT
#653
well, i know RoL thinks zona is mafia, but i think that's just because he's pissed.

as far as suspect, my personal list would be jspazz and iaaan.

you convinced me on jspazz and iaaan has had a posting style that stands out as strange to me.

i'm not sold on nemy yet. need more analysis.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 25 2010 16:10 GMT
#654
On March 26 2010 00:04 haster27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2010 23:37 L wrote:
1) If abenson confirms that he/opz are masons, killing one of them lets every person in the game roleclaim to opz via confirmation. This is big shit.


How can we role-claim to him without getting it also known by anyone else when PM is prohibited?



all hail the return of the noble and wise L, who can't even get the rules right. smh.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 25 2010 16:25 GMT
#657
On March 26 2010 01:16 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2010 01:10 Versatile wrote:
On March 26 2010 00:04 haster27 wrote:
On March 25 2010 23:37 L wrote:
1) If abenson confirms that he/opz are masons, killing one of them lets every person in the game roleclaim to opz via confirmation. This is big shit.


How can we role-claim to him without getting it also known by anyone else when PM is prohibited?



all hail the return of the noble and wise L, who can't even get the rules right. smh.


C'mon that's not really necessary... There have been several people who got caught up on the rules in this game. It's bound to happen. Being condescending about it just starts flamewars and pisses people off.



wait...what....lemme listen.....yup...that's right. *nods* i still don't care.

listen. at some point, all of you are going to have to decide: is L a good mafia player who makes dumbass mistakes, or is he a bad mafia player?

going off the assumption that he's awesome at this game, a mistake of that nature should be beneath him, and strikes me as something to note.

in an case, since when has pissing someone off deter me from making a comment? lecture someone who cares.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 25 2010 16:50 GMT
#660
On March 26 2010 01:29 ~OpZ~ wrote:
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On March 26 2010 01:25 Versatile wrote:
On March 26 2010 01:16 meeple wrote:
On March 26 2010 01:10 Versatile wrote:
On March 26 2010 00:04 haster27 wrote:
On March 25 2010 23:37 L wrote:
1) If abenson confirms that he/opz are masons, killing one of them lets every person in the game roleclaim to opz via confirmation. This is big shit.


How can we role-claim to him without getting it also known by anyone else when PM is prohibited?



all hail the return of the noble and wise L, who can't even get the rules right. smh.


C'mon that's not really necessary... There have been several people who got caught up on the rules in this game. It's bound to happen. Being condescending about it just starts flamewars and pisses people off.



wait...what....lemme listen.....yup...that's right. *nods* i still don't care.

listen. at some point, all of you are going to have to decide: is L a good mafia player who makes dumbass mistakes, or is he a bad mafia player?

going off the assumption that he's awesome at this game, a mistake of that nature should be beneath him, and strikes me as something to note.

in an case, since when has pissing someone off deter me from making a comment? lecture someone who cares.

You can be rather rude homie...Although it reminds me of Showtime. Downside, Flamewars between townies. Upside, piss off a weak mafia member, and you made townie day. Chances are the first is more probable.

=P


lol.

showtime comparison is completely unfair though. i'd never disrespect the mod. modding is a difficult job as is, let alone having to deal with rude players. not cool.
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 25 2010 18:05 GMT
#669
okay well, i was kind of hoping we could get enough people to switch their votes to someone else so that we could lynch someone who is more suspicious.

i don't think that's going to happen, so i'll switch my vote so that we at least get a lynch, and i do believe in sticking with the town protocol of lynching non-town consensus nukers, even though i do not believe RoL is mafia. plus, he's asking to be lynched. i don't see why any pro-town member wouldn't vote with him at this point.

##vote: RoL
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United States396 Posts
March 25 2010 19:02 GMT
#675
On March 26 2010 03:51 Bill Murray wrote:
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On March 26 2010 03:05 Versatile wrote:
okay well, i was kind of hoping we could get enough people to switch their votes to someone else so that we could lynch someone who is more suspicious.

i don't think that's going to happen, so i'll switch my vote so that we at least get a lynch, and i do believe in sticking with the town protocol of lynching non-town consensus nukers, even though i do not believe RoL is mafia. plus, he's asking to be lynched. i don't see why any pro-town member wouldn't vote with him at this point.

##vote: RoL


I disliked your encouraging of people to come off of voting for RoL, and now you vote for him?

also, no I did not imply I have a special role with having anti-nukes, I am actually not one of the larger nuclear powers.


if you keep typing @ me, i'll encourage your lynching, sir spam-a-lot.
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United States396 Posts
March 25 2010 19:52 GMT
#678
On March 26 2010 04:29 Bill Murray wrote:
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On March 26 2010 04:02 Versatile wrote:
On March 26 2010 03:51 Bill Murray wrote:
On March 26 2010 03:05 Versatile wrote:
okay well, i was kind of hoping we could get enough people to switch their votes to someone else so that we could lynch someone who is more suspicious.

i don't think that's going to happen, so i'll switch my vote so that we at least get a lynch, and i do believe in sticking with the town protocol of lynching non-town consensus nukers, even though i do not believe RoL is mafia. plus, he's asking to be lynched. i don't see why any pro-town member wouldn't vote with him at this point.

##vote: RoL


I disliked your encouraging of people to come off of voting for RoL, and now you vote for him?

also, no I did not imply I have a special role with having anti-nukes, I am actually not one of the larger nuclear powers.


if you keep typing @ me, i'll encourage your lynching, sir spam-a-lot.


I couldn't care less. You've been flip flopping so hard in the past couple pages if it wouldn't be anti-town I'd nuke the shit out of you.


but you won't, now will you? sit down, hoe. only make threats you've got the balls to carry out.
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United States396 Posts
March 25 2010 19:52 GMT
#679
On March 26 2010 04:39 Amber[LighT] wrote:
BTW once again for the records RoL is not a great player, Ace could tell you that but he's restraining... I know it


lol. i think RoL has a temper, and that's what's keeping him from being a really good player.
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United States396 Posts
March 26 2010 03:11 GMT
#833
do not waste our anti-nukes on L. let him die. please lord, i do not want to read that letter again.
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United States396 Posts
March 26 2010 03:14 GMT
#835
On March 26 2010 12:13 L wrote:
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On March 26 2010 12:11 Versatile wrote:
do not waste our anti-nukes on L. let him die. please lord, i do not want to read that letter again.
Please take responsibility if it lands. You and tree.hugger both.


responsibility for? don't worry, i'll bring you some apple pie in hell
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United States396 Posts
March 26 2010 03:22 GMT
#837


aye, on unrelated note, where's that post you got banned for? i don't frequent any other parts of this site.
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 26 2010 03:28 GMT
#841
why are you telling people to nuke me? take it back.
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 26 2010 03:35 GMT
#843
of course i told them not to anti-nuke you. i didn't think caller should be anti-nuked either. so did the majority of the town, at least judging by what was said in the thread, but we see where that got us.

in any case, tree.hugger tried to be nice to you and you just kinda threw it back in his face. and then he nuked you. THAT shyt was funny.

but zona's point about saving anti-nukes applies as well.
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 26 2010 03:37 GMT
#845
WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU, YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE.
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United States396 Posts
March 26 2010 03:40 GMT
#850
On March 26 2010 12:38 johnnyspazz wrote:
whoa calm down buddy jesus


lmao. it was a jay-z quote. haha.
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 26 2010 04:57 GMT
#868
fishball, i've taken to ignoring what he says about me and i just make fun of him (and whoever else) when it tickles me to do so. fact of the matter is, he insults me just about as much as i insult him. difference is, i dont constantly bring it up. most of what he says is contradiction in motion.
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 26 2010 19:24 GMT
#915
if you're asking for town consensus, i say let the nukes hit. that's my vote.
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 26 2010 19:26 GMT
#916
On March 27 2010 04:24 Bill Murray wrote:
Unless someone gives me a reason not to other than "it will make you look like mafia", I'm going to be anti-nuking the nuke that is going at L soon. I would rather use what I have than get capped in the night by mafia and have it be unused.


if you anti-nuke him, i will just nuke him.

so i suggest not anti-nuking him so as to not waste your anti-nuke.
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United States396 Posts
March 26 2010 19:37 GMT
#921
On March 27 2010 04:36 Bill Murray wrote:
The longer this goes on, the more I begin to trust L's read. Versatile, why so scummy?


Bill Murray, why so ugly?
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 26 2010 19:53 GMT
#924
bill murray. i am not for people using anti-nukes. we need them later in the game. there is no way to confirm someone's innocence right now, so using anti-nukes on anyone is not pro-town.

so if it means i have to nuke someone to get that point across, fine. i want you to be clear that i don't make idle threats. your anti-nuke will essentially be wasted. if you care about the town, save your anti-nukes.

if you're wondering why i wouldn't just nuke the anti-nuker, well, anti-nukes are PMed and not in the thread. i would rather undo the person's intent then maybe wrongfully nuke the wrong person.

either way, don't make it seem like i'm the one escalating this. it's your choice. as long as you don't anti-nuke L, or anyone else doesn't, i have no reason to fire a nuke.

ps: lmao @ you telling someone to change their style up. didn't you barely get into this game? put on your own oxygen mask before attempting to helping others, pal.
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 26 2010 23:26 GMT
#945
i wish someone had the power to redirect nukes.
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 01:18 GMT
#970
wtf.
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 04:40 GMT
#1029
haven't completely caught up on the thread, but don't say i didn't warn you, BM.

##nuke: L
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 04:46 GMT
#1030
ah. now that i have.

nothing more to add. except don't use anti-nukes on non-confirmed players. it will be in vain.
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 04:50 GMT
#1032
: )
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 06:42 GMT
#1045
well, i hope you saved an anti-nuke to help yourself, dumbass.

##nuke: BM
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 06:44 GMT
#1047
oh, and i've got nukes for days, and not that i cared before, but i REALLY don't give a shit now.

keeping bombing me you fckin' moron. i dare you.
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 06:48 GMT
#1049
On March 27 2010 15:43 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Well...Versatile deserves to die, and if BM's is anti'd I'll consider launching my nuke too...

L...if you aren't about to be saved, please launch a fake at me so I'll have time to react and Nuke the piss outta versatile.....

Actually, Launch it at Caller just in case
=D

Also, L. I can't guarantee you protection, but I sure as fuck hope you get protected. I also feel Japan is probably Mafia aligned. Abenson said the idea to me, but he used the context of ww2. But that is irrelevant correlation in my opinion. Japan hasn't stepped forward to explain the reasoning, and I by no means intended to vote for whoever claimed it. They should of let it hit caller as he hasn't contributed yet. We could of used that to protect someone that actually has posted a considerable amount of content and ideas. Poked and prodded many players. He's being killed why? Not because he's scummy, but because people find him annoying? Why do people find him annoying? Because he refuses to be told he's wrong? That's some bull shit. Ace does this too., but we hardly see this argument used against Ace.

It's a very useful way to argue in mafia honestly. Town aligned or mafia aligned. It gathers a lot of information.

So I fully support another anti-nuke again to save L. Versatile...Would you like to see what the world looks like in Fall Out 3?


hey....do what you feel you gotta do.
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 06:56 GMT
#1051
his fake nuke, you mean?
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United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 20:18 GMT
#1088
On March 28 2010 03:16 JeeJee wrote:
i fucking hate you all
fuck you.
i have nothing more to add. we all know my stance on nukes, and we definitely know my stance on nuking L.

fuck you verse, fuck you everyone who launched a nuke

just, fuck you.
i am so pissed because it looks like we are fucking going to lose this game just like the everyone-has-a-gun game because hey, the moment people get the ability to kill people at whim, they suddenly decide to exercise it because its the FUCKING INTERNET

fuck you.


AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

best.post.ever. lmao.
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United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 20:22 GMT
#1090
On March 28 2010 05:03 JeeJee wrote:
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On March 28 2010 04:28 Elemenope wrote:

I do think that L's pro-town and these nukes toward him are out of spite rather than for scum tells; I'd like to see L saved, but that's really up to the town and if they feel we need to save antis or not.


i disagree. if you notice, the chaos right now (as i have posted right before ace's huge picture post) is caused by people who initially voted for L to get lynched on day 1 for no adequate reason (and no, as i have outlined many many times in this thread, him being banned for two real-time days, not game-days, is NOT an adequate reason). L is usually a big asset to whichever side he's on, it's just that idiots take some of his comments to heart and think he's attacking them instead of their logic. which he sometimes is, but hey, he's right more often than not. have to take the good with the bad.

obviously i would love both bm and L saved, as they have both been acting pro-town so far, and i am fairly confident in stating that verse is probably mafia. plus, the other people on that list (treehugger, fishball and d3) haven't been that helpful either. there is quite likely to be another mafia among that list. so saying that the nukes are being launched out of spite by townies as opposed to mafia wanting to wreak havoc on the town and kill pro-town players is stupid, imo.


to the bolded: are you high on drugs? L is a fcukin' cancer to the town. he makes very little sense and for some reason i cannot comprehend, you seem to think he's good @ this game. smh. many players keep saying "people are voting for L because they don't like his behavior or the way he communicates". well, clearly that doesn't apply to me, as i am an asshole to pretty much everyone. so i don't care if he's nice. hell, sometimes he's funny. i just think he's a moron most of the time.

if you can't understand, whatever. we'll have to agree to disagree, i don't think either one of us are going to change our minds.
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United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 20:34 GMT
#1093
On March 28 2010 04:44 Iaaan wrote:
I am happy that elemenope has been saved, since his nuke was probably launched by mafia.

I want all the nukes in the air to fall, none of the players being nuked are confirmed townies. Assuming that the town is stupid, and that the mafia are saving their nukes, it makes sense that we should save our anti nukes for when it is more likely mafia nukes that have been launched, otherwise the mafia will have a huge amount of KP.

I think it is suspicious that Bill Murray and L are supporting each other after what has happened in the past. I think they could easily be mafia defending each other/using chainsaw defense with nukes/antinukes. I don't see any solid reason that people (haster, sup) are defending them, other than that they feel they are town.


since i'm going to be dying soon, i just want to give the town a few tidbits to work with in my absence. don't let my i-don't-give-a-fcuk-ness dissuade you from giving to the town and winning this thing.

anyone agreeing with me is most likely mafia. especially iaaan. please take the time to go through his posts. he's very bad @ covering up his mafia intentions. this is easy for me to see because he's pretty much been on the same page as me during this entire game. i know what my motivations are, but i believe his to be somewhat more sinister. just my opinion

next: caller. as we all know, when caller is innocent, there is NO WAY to get away from him. a couple of mafia games ago, he was mafia and he posted very, very little. this is incredibly suspect. his posting style changes dramatically when he's town vs. mafia, so unless he's got something going on IRL that's serious (beyond school, work, etc) then you all should take a close look at him.

secondly. anyone hit by an anonymous nuke is most likely town. but anyone saved by anonymous anti-nuke is some to look closely at. i think LMNOP is pro-town but i'd probably still keep my on him.

and in general, the town needs to be looking closely at and asking for more from:

iaaan
caller
amberlight
nemy
d3_crescentia
xelin
nikon
fishball


have a good game y'all. i'll try to stick around 'til i die and see if i can add more.
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United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 20:35 GMT
#1094
On March 28 2010 05:32 Bill Murray wrote:
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On March 28 2010 05:22 Versatile wrote:
On March 28 2010 05:03 JeeJee wrote:
On March 28 2010 04:28 Elemenope wrote:

I do think that L's pro-town and these nukes toward him are out of spite rather than for scum tells; I'd like to see L saved, but that's really up to the town and if they feel we need to save antis or not.


i disagree. if you notice, the chaos right now (as i have posted right before ace's huge picture post) is caused by people who initially voted for L to get lynched on day 1 for no adequate reason (and no, as i have outlined many many times in this thread, him being banned for two real-time days, not game-days, is NOT an adequate reason). L is usually a big asset to whichever side he's on, it's just that idiots take some of his comments to heart and think he's attacking them instead of their logic. which he sometimes is, but hey, he's right more often than not. have to take the good with the bad.

obviously i would love both bm and L saved, as they have both been acting pro-town so far, and i am fairly confident in stating that verse is probably mafia. plus, the other people on that list (treehugger, fishball and d3) haven't been that helpful either. there is quite likely to be another mafia among that list. so saying that the nukes are being launched out of spite by townies as opposed to mafia wanting to wreak havoc on the town and kill pro-town players is stupid, imo.


to the bolded: are you high on drugs? L is a fcukin' cancer to the town. he makes very little sense and for some reason i cannot comprehend, you seem to think he's good @ this game. smh. many players keep saying "people are voting for L because they don't like his behavior or the way he communicates". well, clearly that doesn't apply to me, as i am an asshole to pretty much everyone. so i don't care if he's nice. hell, sometimes he's funny. i just think he's a moron most of the time.

if you can't understand, whatever. we'll have to agree to disagree, i don't think either one of us are going to change our minds.



No, you are the obvious cancer to the town. You, tree.hugger, and whoever else are trying to get rid of people who are obvtown.

The fact that the rest of the thread haven't cracked down on you shows me that they either have no nukes, have no balls, or haven't read the thread.


when are you going to get L's dick out of your mouth? you're pathetic. get away from me. please. seriously. stop posting towards me.
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United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 20:51 GMT
#1099
On March 28 2010 05:42 Amber[LighT] wrote:
And Versatile don't act like I haven't been active this game. Just because I'm not posting during the shit-flinging contest doesn't mean I should be "looked at."


i'm sorry, where did i say you weren't active?

geez. don't get so upset. i said "look at closely OR ask for more". read next time and you'll realize there's no reason to be mad.
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United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 20:57 GMT
#1100
On March 28 2010 05:42 Amber[LighT] wrote:
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On March 28 2010 04:28 Elemenope wrote:
If he said Yes, then he didn't change rules at all if you phrased it as you said in your post at the bottom of page 54.

I'm glad the missile towards me was shot down, but what the fuck at these other missiles. Admittedly, both of these are rather expected given the L was saved situation.
I do think that L's pro-town and these nukes toward him are out of spite rather than for scum tells; I'd like to see L saved, but that's really up to the town and if they feel we need to save antis or not.
Keep this in mind: NK may shoot another nuke tomorrow; he has anonymous nuking powers and has been shown to be clearly antitown since nobody has come up to state "hey, I'm NK, this is why I shot at Elemenope".

As for the Amber-d3 inactivity: there's a lot of people who I haven't seen actually post real content about these last missiles, namely:
d3 - posted just a few lines
xelin - posted explaining his reasoning behind his day one pre-lynch actions
Amber - hasn't posted nearly anything about these nukes
Caller - hasn't posted anything at all I believe since RoL's missile was shot down
Zona - This is a big surprise in my opinion. He hasn't posted at all since March 27 2010 05:57. 3 missiles has been shot since then, where are you Zona?
Fishball - Posted somewhat early on, but recent posts have been lacking in terms of content other than showing how L is hypocritical/a douche/whatever
Nikon - Last main post was during the 'should Japan come out and claim'
nemY - Hasn't posted anything worth of content since his vote to lynch RoL.

We have had what, 6 missiles shot by now? It shouldn't be that difficult to have something to talk about. Even if it's a "hey, I don't agree with this missile getting shot down" or whatever or "OMG THERE'S AN NK WITH ANONYMOUS NUKES".



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On March 27 2010 23:17 Amber[LighT] wrote:
so I guess we're not being conservative about nuking anymore? lol



Page 53 for reference.

If you read the first few pages of this thread you should know of my stance on nuking. I'm not going to re-iterate what I said, but JeeJee and I have been on the same wavelength for the past 50 or so pages. I voted for L originally and then moved to Abenson, didn't remove since the mob went for RoL, who I figured was just being a complete faggot (check page 33 or so where I called him out for being a retard).

I didn't believe RoL was mafia, but he went against the policy I assumed the town agreed on, which was "NO NUKING!" The lynch was justifiable so I can't sit and point fingers.

I have nothing to say about the recent nuke-happy players. As I quoted from the bottom of Page 53 I asked a sarcastic question. What more can I ask since the town as completely abandoned playing this game with any structure.



amber, i am just using your latest post as an example, this is not directed at you.

you know, just as a general comment. there are a lot of people who complain about rudeness and calling people morons and idiots and so on.... and maybe it's my own ignorance since i don't frequent other parts of the site, but i don't ever see anyone complaining about terms such as retard and faggot and the like. and these derogatory terms are far worse than any random insult on someone's intelligence (or lack thereof). just an observation. i may be wrong, and i hope i am in this case.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 21:36 GMT
#1104
On March 28 2010 06:30 L wrote:
Lol i had a power outage. Sup brosefs. Business:

1) Versatile. You're a cool cat, but put everything you want to say in 1 post, and then stop talking. That way we know precisely what you wanted to tell the town if you flip green.

That said, if you do indeed flip green, It'll be be a pretty solid indication that you're now officially shittier than amber and vivi. Way to go completely fucking the other game up too. gj. Couldn't settle for one complete flame out, could you?

2) Who to kill if I do indeed die? First off clear the list of people who tried to vote me starting based on the players who have the weakest excuses first, then move to meeple and Iaaan.

3) ~Opz~, if you still want me to launch fake nukes feel free to ask.

4) tree.hugger still needs to die before he has the chance at throwing out another nuke at anyone.


ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. you get so mad. lmao. this shit is great. rage harder, my dude.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 01:42 GMT
#1131
On March 28 2010 09:46 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Versatile...I agree with your list of suspects for the most part...And actually think you're probably townie. A jack ass, but a townie.

-_-...Our eyes will be opened up in a very short time...But again...

L please extend the day by launching the fake at Caller...who knows, he might actually post then.


lol. i think that's fair to say. however, i warned BM what happened, but apparently he didn't realize i have bigger balls than him.

in any case, i wanted L dead because i believe him to be bad for the town, period. who knows, maybe i'll change my mind in the future. once a nuke was launched at him, i took the opportunity. i guess i underestimated how stupid BM is though, an impossible task though it is. one would think that at the point i nuked L, he would realize nuking me would only lead to his death. if he had been thinking long-term about the radiation levels and to keep himself alive, getting me lynched would have been a far better plan, because why wouldn't i retaliate?

either way, for all you dummies who keep putting me at the top of your lynch lists, newsflash: i have a nuke coming at me. i will die. discuss other plans and other targets as i'm old news.

further, town may want to think about their attempts to lynch/nuke townies who have broken the precious rules. you guys have got townies attacking townies while the mafia and third party sit back and watch the town do the work for them. yeah, you can blame the townies who acted without town-consensus, but what's done is done. if you want to win, it's time to move on past the blame game. someone has to take the high ground.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 01:44 GMT
#1132
On March 28 2010 07:28 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 05:35 Versatile wrote:
On March 28 2010 05:32 Bill Murray wrote:
On March 28 2010 05:22 Versatile wrote:
On March 28 2010 05:03 JeeJee wrote:
On March 28 2010 04:28 Elemenope wrote:

I do think that L's pro-town and these nukes toward him are out of spite rather than for scum tells; I'd like to see L saved, but that's really up to the town and if they feel we need to save antis or not.


i disagree. if you notice, the chaos right now (as i have posted right before ace's huge picture post) is caused by people who initially voted for L to get lynched on day 1 for no adequate reason (and no, as i have outlined many many times in this thread, him being banned for two real-time days, not game-days, is NOT an adequate reason). L is usually a big asset to whichever side he's on, it's just that idiots take some of his comments to heart and think he's attacking them instead of their logic. which he sometimes is, but hey, he's right more often than not. have to take the good with the bad.

obviously i would love both bm and L saved, as they have both been acting pro-town so far, and i am fairly confident in stating that verse is probably mafia. plus, the other people on that list (treehugger, fishball and d3) haven't been that helpful either. there is quite likely to be another mafia among that list. so saying that the nukes are being launched out of spite by townies as opposed to mafia wanting to wreak havoc on the town and kill pro-town players is stupid, imo.


to the bolded: are you high on drugs? L is a fcukin' cancer to the town. he makes very little sense and for some reason i cannot comprehend, you seem to think he's good @ this game. smh. many players keep saying "people are voting for L because they don't like his behavior or the way he communicates". well, clearly that doesn't apply to me, as i am an asshole to pretty much everyone. so i don't care if he's nice. hell, sometimes he's funny. i just think he's a moron most of the time.

if you can't understand, whatever. we'll have to agree to disagree, i don't think either one of us are going to change our minds.



No, you are the obvious cancer to the town. You, tree.hugger, and whoever else are trying to get rid of people who are obvtown.

The fact that the rest of the thread haven't cracked down on you shows me that they either have no nukes, have no balls, or haven't read the thread.


when are you going to get L's dick out of your mouth? you're pathetic. get away from me. please. seriously. stop posting towards me.


how about you attack my arguments instead of attacking me?

oh wait, too late in two senses.
moron.


wait....what was that? stop mumbling! no hunny bunny. first you remove the penis. THEN you talk.

amateurs.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 02:05 GMT
#1138
On March 28 2010 10:52 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 10:42 Versatile wrote:
On March 28 2010 09:46 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Versatile...I agree with your list of suspects for the most part...And actually think you're probably townie. A jack ass, but a townie.

-_-...Our eyes will be opened up in a very short time...But again...

L please extend the day by launching the fake at Caller...who knows, he might actually post then.


lol. i think that's fair to say. however, i warned BM what happened, but apparently he didn't realize i have bigger balls than him.

in any case, i wanted L dead because i believe him to be bad for the town, period. who knows, maybe i'll change my mind in the future. once a nuke was launched at him, i took the opportunity. i guess i underestimated how stupid BM is though, an impossible task though it is. one would think that at the point i nuked L, he would realize nuking me would only lead to his death. if he had been thinking long-term about the radiation levels and to keep himself alive, getting me lynched would have been a far better plan, because why wouldn't i retaliate?

either way, for all you dummies who keep putting me at the top of your lynch lists, newsflash: i have a nuke coming at me. i will die. discuss other plans and other targets as i'm old news.

further, town may want to think about their attempts to lynch/nuke townies who have broken the precious rules. you guys have got townies attacking townies while the mafia and third party sit back and watch the town do the work for them. yeah, you can blame the townies who acted without town-consensus, but what's done is done. if you want to win, it's time to move on past the blame game. someone has to take the high ground.

Why wouldn't you retaliate to being lynched either?

If town is attacking town, wasn't that directly caused by you and your gang of fucking nitwits? You're a fucking huge box of hypocritical puss.

Here's the high ground: We nuke every player who nukes without the consent of the town. Period. If anyone else nukes, they know they're going to die for it. If townies want to nuke, cool beans, but they'll know the ToD is going to go up twice. The fact that tree.hugger and xelin haven't been nuked yet is a HUGE clue that they're mafia. If mafia saw both of them as guilt free nuke targets, they would have unleashed their shit a while ago while high fiving that they're listening to the town.

So, once again; kill the morons who have nuked, then just stop fucking firing shit. Period. This is the only way forward without us getting into the exact same mess tomorrow. Everyone who's fired nukes has said "I've done bad shit, but lets look to the future.".

What future? You nuking again in a day and saying "I've done bad shit, but lets look to the future" again?


umm, i'm not RoL. i wouldn't have launched a nuke just to eff the town, that's not my style. so that point is null and void.

and i don't have a future in this game. just letting you know your plan is not going to work. how the hell do you expect to control everyone in this game at this point? how are you going to personally ensure tree.hugger and xelin are nuked when you admittedly have no nukes? and hey, let's use your own point to delve into that deeper: why wouldn't they nuke someone back if they are nuked? why would they not retaliate if they're on their deathbeds essentially? no one is going to be attacked outright and take it laying down.

but yeah, keep on trying to kill townies, even though that's the supposed reason you're railing against me.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 04:03 GMT
#1141
actually, i launched 2. you can never get your facts straight.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 04:46 GMT
#1155
hey, so, no one intervening in L's death points to caller pretty much being definitely mafia. and i already pointed out iaaan for you all pages ago. i'll quote that post closer to my death so it may be even more easily accessed.

also, zona gets more suspicious by the passing minute.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 04:50 GMT
#1156
ahh fantastic. i will die happily now. town, i am happy to have given you this gift. you may work in peace. the mafia gods did not see it fit that i could participate in such a peaceful, loving, democratic town, but alas. if my death could create a better world for the rest of you, my actions were not in vain.

i hope to give you one last parting gift, as long as no force believes it wise to intervene. hurrah! hurrah! it is a celebration for all.

: )
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 04:58 GMT
#1158
may we all pray for L's mafia soul, and hope that he takes this as a lesson learned.

he always advocates for killing townies to gain information. well, in that sense, you served your purpose, L. be proud. you get innocents killed by the boatload when you're town....take this as a....act in vengeful kindness.

oh yes. kindness can be vengeful, don't you dare make a mistake about it, young man.

*skips across the town square picking petals from a daisy*

"he will learn....he will learn not.....he will learn.....he will learn not"
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 06:22 GMT
#1163
On March 28 2010 05:34 Versatile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 04:44 Iaaan wrote:
I am happy that elemenope has been saved, since his nuke was probably launched by mafia.

I want all the nukes in the air to fall, none of the players being nuked are confirmed townies. Assuming that the town is stupid, and that the mafia are saving their nukes, it makes sense that we should save our anti nukes for when it is more likely mafia nukes that have been launched, otherwise the mafia will have a huge amount of KP.

I think it is suspicious that Bill Murray and L are supporting each other after what has happened in the past. I think they could easily be mafia defending each other/using chainsaw defense with nukes/antinukes. I don't see any solid reason that people (haster, sup) are defending them, other than that they feel they are town.


since i'm going to be dying soon, i just want to give the town a few tidbits to work with in my absence. don't let my i-don't-give-a-fcuk-ness dissuade you from giving to the town and winning this thing.

anyone agreeing with me is most likely mafia. especially iaaan. please take the time to go through his posts. he's very bad @ covering up his mafia intentions. this is easy for me to see because he's pretty much been on the same page as me during this entire game. i know what my motivations are, but i believe his to be somewhat more sinister. just my opinion

next: caller. as we all know, when caller is innocent, there is NO WAY to get away from him. a couple of mafia games ago, he was mafia and he posted very, very little. this is incredibly suspect. his posting style changes dramatically when he's town vs. mafia, so unless he's got something going on IRL that's serious (beyond school, work, etc) then you all should take a close look at him.

secondly. anyone hit by an anonymous nuke is most likely town. but anyone saved by anonymous anti-nuke is some to look closely at. i think LMNOP is pro-town but i'd probably still keep my on him.

and in general, the town needs to be looking closely at and asking for more from:

iaaan
caller
amberlight
nemy
d3_crescentia
xelin
nikon
fishball


have a good game y'all. i'll try to stick around 'til i die and see if i can add more.


quoted 'cuz i said i would. *fades into the sky on a bed of clouds like mufasa mouthing, "rememberrrrrrrrrrr"
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 06:23 GMT
#1164
On March 28 2010 15:00 Iaaan wrote:
I want to point out that the mafia will have been sitting around laughing at us while we were screwing ourselves. There was no reason for them to post anything to screw up the town because we were doing it for them. So the people who haven't posted much in a reasonable amount of time I think should be called attention to:
2. d3_crescentia
3. JeeJee
7. Amber[LighT]
8. Caller
12. Zona
14. Fishball
16. meeple
18. Nikon
20. nemy

People who voted against L originally for no reason other than that he was banned are Fishball and d3. Versatile and tree.hugger also voted for L for no reason, and used nukes stupidly. These four people are who I think should be lynched. Verse will probably be hit with a nuke soon.

Verse and tree.hugger both nuked L, looking at it from a mafia's perspective, they would know that L is town, and a veteran/useful player; thus they would have motivation to nuke him past just being pissed off at him.

And I can see why people are suspicious of me, I haven't really been posting much rational behind my thoughts, but just my thoughts themselves. I've been busy/lazy, but like foolishness says, no one cares. But I acknowledge the accusations at least, and will try to respond to them, and point to people that I think are more suspicious than me.


well, if i was mafia, i wouldn't be getting hit with a nuke, now would i? c'mon. you've seriously got some work to do on your game face.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 06:29 GMT
#1166
LMAO. fake nuke BM?

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. L is going to kill you. what a failure at life.

my nuke isn't fake by the way.

: )
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 06:37 GMT
#1168
so moving on. what does everyone think about my points about iaaan and caller?

i think defeating the mafia is going to be all about lynches because nukes are not for sure. the mafia can shoot down nukes, but they can't cancel out our lynches. would most people be on board for voting for either iaaan or caller?

or if there are other candidates (other than myself) i'd be willing to hear the arguments.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 06:38 GMT
#1169
On March 28 2010 15:33 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 15:29 Versatile wrote:
LMAO. fake nuke BM?

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. L is going to kill you. what a failure at life.

my nuke isn't fake by the way.

: )

Nah he's a G.


a dead one. so lowercase, i'd think.

speaking of being dead.... :/
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 15:31 GMT
#1205
opz, i don't think iaaan (or anyone else) standing against anti-nuker caller shows that they are pro-town. as members of the mafia, they would he would get anti-nuked, and could rail against him all the wanted to in the thread, but know what was really going on behind the scenes.

zona, and everyone else, if the town sees fit to lynch me, that's fine. i don't plan on launching any more nukes without town consent. the situation did escalate pretty quickly, and i apologize to the town for that. i understand if you don't believe me, but i thought i'd say it.

i'd be willing (and happy) to vote to lynch iaaan and caller. if the town decides on someone else, i'll vote that way.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 15:59 GMT
#1211
it's on page 20, if that helps. it's easy to determine that zona believed the mason claim before many others, as he was the one who started the bandwagon on RoL after the claim.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 16:38 GMT
#1233
On March 29 2010 01:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
And let me emphasize...Not just because he's N.K. but because he fired a nuke without town judgement, because he fired a nuke unprovoked, and because he fired it anonymously. Why on gods green earth would you admit that?
I mean...I would have to think you were...well I can't take it uncivil, to maybe Versatile will for me?

But, uh...Yea...You seen Japan wouldn't come forward, what makes you think whoever anti'd it would...


i've turned over a new leaf. i feel nothing but kindness towards anyone now. i've got a ukulele, ganja and a bob marley shirt on. life is good.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 17:02 GMT
#1244
i agree with waiting out the rest of the day and night. as i stated before, if we launch any nukes at mafia, i think they will just shoot them down. lynching is the only surefire way of getting a red out of the game.

i'll say it one more time: i am not going to fire again without town consent. i have no reason to at this point.

also, there have been plenty of people who the town has suspected. to decide how to lynch them, i say we rank them in order of most suspect. here is my list, make your own if you don't agree with it.

1. caller: was anonymously saved and has posted very little. little to no posting is a mafia tell for him.
2. iaaan: scummy posting style pointed out by several players.
3. tree.hugger/versatile/xelin: for non-consensus nuking.

suspicious: LMNOP for attacking opz and abenson after mason claim. the one thing i'd like to point out here is that L also advocated for killing one to prove the other if i am remembering correctly, and he was a towny. and i believe one other person did the same as well.

then there is zona's inactive list, L's vote list, and the list i posted.

L's vote list (as of page 21):
tree.hugger
Versatile
Abenson
Fishball
RebirthofLegend
~Opz~
d3_crescentia

zona's latest inactive list:
iNfuNdiBuLuM: 31
JeeJee: 30
Iaaan: 29
meeple: 28
Fishball: 26
Amber[LighT]: 26
Nikon: 18
d3_crescentia: 14
nemY: 13
Abenson: 12
Caller: 12
Phrujbaz: 2

Versatile's suspect list:
iaaan
caller
amberlight
nemy
d3_crescentia
xelin
nikon
fishball


i'd just like to point out that fishball and d3_crescentia are on all three of those lists. just something to note. not putting FoS on them, but the fact that they're on 3 different lists, all of which were formed with different criteria speaks to the need for both to give more to the town and a necessary increase in pro-town behavior. abenson, nikon, iaaan, amberlight, nemy and caller are on two of those lists each. abenson voted for L to save himself and told us he was going to be inactive so i believe it's safe to cross him off. nemy has been kind of inactive in both this game and zona's game, so that's something to take into consideration.

i also think it may be interesting to see how zona's inactive lists have changed over the course of the game. not saying we will definitely get something useful out of them, but we should be looking for patterns.

i welcome thoughts and opinions on this post.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 17:04 GMT
#1245
On March 29 2010 01:49 tree.hugger wrote:
~OpZ~, I've read your posts on the last two pages, and I have absolutely no idea what you're advocating. Absolutely none. Your wall-of-text has nothing holding it together, I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to prove.

You've advocated Day 2 lynching me, then XeliN, and then Caller over the last two pages.

Please stop spamming the thread. You, Versatile, Abenson, and the rest of your mafia compatriots should probably stop attracting more suspicion.


and where do you get off calling me mafia? i'd love to know your theory.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 17:09 GMT
#1248
omg wtf. this is the day that never ends.....yes it goes on and on my friend...

lol.

well, i do think tree.hugger's last post is scummy in the sense that we're 63 pages in, and he hasn't questioned the mason claim but now he comes in and tries to say that opz is mafia with me? do you know how many times opz almost killed me for what i did to L? and why didn't he address this earlier?
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 17:13 GMT
#1251
On March 29 2010 02:10 XeliN wrote:
Ok I'd like to highlight this, if Tree.Hugger is lynched tomorrow and flips red then Versatile is going to be red as well, Tree's early post grouping "and opz versatile abenson" was very strange and tbh the post versatile just made as well as his seems to me forced mafia interaction, i.e. fake.

This is simply a hypothesis if Tree flips red upon death.


are you kidding me? you know what's worse than being attacked by someone for no reason? someone else saying you're in cahoots with them and it's staged. smh. tree.hugger is trying to paint me. he hasn't said one word to me all game, and now he lines me up with opz and says we're both mafia? c'mon. don't fall for the hype, xelin. think about this seriously please.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 17:15 GMT
#1253
On March 29 2010 02:10 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2010 02:09 Versatile wrote:
omg wtf. this is the day that never ends.....yes it goes on and on my friend...

lol.

well, i do think tree.hugger's last post is scummy in the sense that we're 63 pages in, and he hasn't questioned the mason claim but now he comes in and tries to say that opz is mafia with me? do you know how many times opz almost killed me for what i did to L? and why didn't he address this earlier?


So... do you think he's going to get saved from the nuke?


at this point, i'm not sure. one scummy post does not mean he's mafia. but i would like him to elaborate on why he said what he said. i do think firing the nuke was a bit premature, but i'm not really in a place to judge.

but hey, now that i've answered your question, maybe you'll answer zona's? do you have any ideas on where to go from here? what do you think of the plans suggested? who are your top suspects, beyond the non-town consensus nukers?
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 17:39 GMT
#1260
On March 29 2010 02:15 haster27 wrote:
I strongly believe Versatile is Mafia for several reasons.

Let me first point you to the first point I have against her. This is a direct quote. With second point, it seems like Versatile is pro-town player who is interested in keeping order at the Town. Yet at this moment, she is responsible for greatest chaos in this game and have caused death of two Town players. I cannot comprehend why she would metamorphosis into raging monster like this, only to "[turn] over a new leaf" when L is finally dead. Mafia players generally try to conceal themselves by following the atmosphere of the town (often vote bandwagoning); as same way, she could have tried to downplay significance of her nuke in all hate and panic caused by tree.hugger nuke launch.

Also may I state that the idea she proposed is highly illogical. It adds unnecessarily complexity to the revenge-nuke plan, and the loss from following this plan (Mafia finding out who has nukes) far overpowers the possible gain (prevents two townie from launching nuke at the same time unintentionally). Since nuke seems to Town's main and possibly only source of killing besides lynching (statement justified by the fact that even RoL's special abilities has been executed by means of the nuke), any move trying to find out owner of nukes and anti-nukes is anti-town.

Third, I certainly do not understand why she would have anti-nuked Bill Murray. I understand Townie taking action into one's own hands to get suspect he or she is 100% certain about, but why would one counter-nuke the person who is just trying to follow the protocol of revenge-nuke plan? Even if she is not Mafia, this move is so anti-town that I'll feel no guilt even if she flips Town after she is killed.

Only one thing initially hesitated me from lynching Versatile, and it is that BM's nuke flying toward her has not been intercepted. But once upon thought, Mafia will not intercept the nuke going toward her even if Versatile was Mafia. Versatile is non-concensus nuker whose crusade against L has been proved to be soundly wrong. There is no reason for Town to save her, and in fact considering how much non-concensus nuker Town has, Townie would be relieved that BM's nuke will take their hands off the matter of having to deal with killing Versatile.

Thus saving Versatile will be waste of anti-nuke b/c it will immediately make her clear suspect, and likely to be lynched off day 2. In fact I find that it will be more likely for Mafia to save her if Versatile had been Townie, so they can bandwagon against her day 2 and soak up the lynch.


para 1: you're doing too much WIFOM with that line of thinking. you're right. as mafia, why the hell would i attract so much attention to myself? i have stated many times that i believe L is detrimental to the town. you may disagree with me, and that's fine. but that was my reasoning. i am not the only one to believe that, and i am not the only person who nuked him this game for that same reason.

para 2: what idea are you talking about? if you mean early on in the game, i was trying to help brainstorm a way to nuke non-town consensus nukers without a shitload of nukes being fired. i said that may be we should say okay, person A and/or person B will nuke non-town consensus nuker #1. and person C and/or person D will nuke no-town cencensous nuker #2. and so on. i NEVER said anti-nukers should step forward. i think that's a bad idea. so please do not accuse me of something i never did. i've done enough bad shit for you to harp on about, please do not make things up.

para 3: the whole BM situation got out of hand, and i've already admitted that. i nuked him because he nuked me. i figured, i'm dying, he's killed me, and i'm taking his punk ass with me. not saying it was pro-town, but i would think one could understand the want to take out the person who took you out. i obviously didn't know it was a fake nuke, and check my posting up until i found out it was. i was trying to leave my thoughts in the thread so that they could help the town after my demise. i believe this was pro-town behavior, if nothing else. there was no way i could know BM's nuke was fake unless we were both mafia, correct? AND HE WAS GREEN. so what does this tell you? there was no way that my behavior after getting nuked by BM was staged.

para 4: mafia will not save mafia? are you kidding me? what does mafia lose by saving me? nothing. what do they lose if they don't save me? a member of their team. mafia would not let mafia die because even if they thought it would paint that person guess what? they get to keep another member alive, and they could deal with the repercussions later. both townies and mafia have anti-nukes so this would not be an impossible task. if i had an anonymous anti-nuke save me, i would say you all definitely would need to nuke/lynch me asap. i''ve said that in the case of caller, and that town also needs to take a closer look @ LMNOP for that same reason.

para 5: well, i wasn't saved by anyone, was i?

i respect your opinion to lynch me. i've stated i understand why any townie would want to do so. but please take a look at your arguments first and see if there aren't better targets.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 17:42 GMT
#1262
On March 29 2010 02:16 XeliN wrote:
All of it is hypothetical on Tree flipping red, if he does then yeah I'd consider you a possible partner in crime. Also you did vote for L, something you yourself list as a suspicious action and have currently Nuked a town alligned player. I have my eye on you....


umm no. do we need to work on your reading comprehension?

i listed 3 lists. my own, and the two the town has been using. the L vote list and zona's inactive list. i do not believe myself to be mafia. i hope that is clear.

you can keep your eye on me but if you tell the UN i'm growing hella drugs in my country we're going to have problems during treaty negotiations
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 17:47 GMT
#1264
because i think caller is mafia, and he was anonymously anti-nuked.

i guess i shouldn't state it as a fact, and i apologize for that, but it's what i believe given my behavioral analysis on caller.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 17:52 GMT
#1267
also, knowing ace, i believe he'd give the mafia a role like that. BM was a "one-shot doc" townie so i don't think it's out of the realm to think ace would have given the mafia a similar role.

and even beyond that, if the mafia could not shoot down nukes, but the town could, i think that may be an unfair advantage. town could lynch, nuke, and anti-nuke, but the mafia would only be able to nuke and kill at night. basically, this would allow townies to possibly end the game day 1 if the mafia completely screwed up and were plain to see. 7 nukes fired in day 1 so far, and with 22 players, it's doubtful there's that many mafia in the game. basically, i think it if the mafia didn't have anti-nukes it might break the game. but that's just my opinion, i'm a different kind of mod than ace.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 18:01 GMT
#1269
On March 29 2010 02:49 haster27 wrote:
Point 1: It has nothing to do with what you said, nor the "standard" behaviour of Mafia. I am just confused why you would reverse your position all of the sudden. I mean, I thought you tried to establish order in the Town, yet you suddenly started rampaging.

Point 2: The problem is if person A/B do not have nukes, they are going to say they do not have the nukes- which will continue on before we reach the person who has the nukes. However, at that point, the number of the players in the potential nuke-having Townies list for Mafia to pick from will have been reduced more than necessary. And yeah, ignore anti-nukes part.

Point 3: It is neutral move. It cannot be proved as either pro-town or anti-town move unless the alignment of the players because even if you flip Mafia, the list you posted will simply be WIFOM'd to death.

Point 4: I am assuming Mafia do not have that much anti-nukes here. If then, they will try to use anti-nuke more efficiently. Saving someone targetted by another one of non-concensus nuker Townie is more beneficial than saving someone who will clearly be under lot of suspicion after saving.

However, I agree with your post, which is why my plan does not involve nuking you day 1. I will push you farther down the lynch list when new suspect appears.


1. i stated earlier that when L was nuked, i took that opportunity. so i did not change my stance, L got nuked and i saw an opening and took it.

2. which is why i said i was involved in the brainstorming. as soon as someone pointed that out (i don't remember who) i dropped it as a viable option.

3. that's your opinion, and that's fine.

4. here's my point about that: i don't believe the mafia will save anyone to gain town credibility. why? because they don't need to. we don't know the game set up here. mafia could sit there and not use nukes and not have any attention drawn to them and could gain town favor by the usual methods, posting plans, etc. also, anti-nuking is anonymous. no one can prove it was them. someone could counterclaim and it could become a shitstorm. this is not a smart way to get into the town's good graces. it's a plan, but not necessarily the best.

and thanks. i appreciate when people actually respond to the whole post and not just bits and pieces.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 18:06 GMT
#1270
i personally don't think any more nukes should be fired so we can get to day 2 and a lynch opportunity.

but if the majority of the town wants xelin nuked, i suggest it's done soon so that we don't have to wait 48hrs for day to end.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 28 2010 18:14 GMT
#1274
On March 29 2010 03:09 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2010 02:47 Versatile wrote:
because i think caller is mafia, and he was anonymously anti-nuked.

i guess i shouldn't state it as a fact, and i apologize for that, but it's what i believe given my behavioral analysis on caller.


ok, fair enough. guess our minds are wired differently, as you can see the first conclusion i thought of was that mafia may have no anti-nukes. it just seemed you were so sure, which stood out to me, to say the least.


yeah, i assumed because it's the way i would probably set it up if i was the mod. check my second response to you, i went into greater detail.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 01:41 GMT
#1310
can you cancel a nuke? what?
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 01:42 GMT
#1311
On March 29 2010 02:02 Versatile wrote:
i agree with waiting out the rest of the day and night. as i stated before, if we launch any nukes at mafia, i think they will just shoot them down. lynching is the only surefire way of getting a red out of the game.

i'll say it one more time: i am not going to fire again without town consent. i have no reason to at this point.

also, there have been plenty of people who the town has suspected. to decide how to lynch them, i say we rank them in order of most suspect. here is my list, make your own if you don't agree with it.

1. caller: was anonymously saved and has posted very little. little to no posting is a mafia tell for him.
2. iaaan: scummy posting style pointed out by several players.
3. tree.hugger/versatile/xelin: for non-consensus nuking.

suspicious: LMNOP for attacking opz and abenson after mason claim. the one thing i'd like to point out here is that L also advocated for killing one to prove the other if i am remembering correctly, and he was a towny. and i believe one other person did the same as well.

then there is zona's inactive list, L's vote list, and the list i posted.

L's vote list (as of page 21):
tree.hugger
Versatile
Abenson
Fishball
RebirthofLegend
~Opz~
d3_crescentia

zona's latest inactive list:
iNfuNdiBuLuM: 31
JeeJee: 30
Iaaan: 29
meeple: 28
Fishball: 26
Amber[LighT]: 26
Nikon: 18
d3_crescentia: 14
nemY: 13
Abenson: 12
Caller: 12
Phrujbaz: 2

Versatile's suspect list:
iaaan
caller
amberlight
nemy
d3_crescentia
xelin
nikon
fishball


i'd just like to point out that fishball and d3_crescentia are on all three of those lists. just something to note. not putting FoS on them, but the fact that they're on 3 different lists, all of which were formed with different criteria speaks to the need for both to give more to the town and a necessary increase in pro-town behavior. abenson, nikon, iaaan, amberlight, nemy and caller are on two of those lists each. abenson voted for L to save himself and told us he was going to be inactive so i believe it's safe to cross him off. nemy has been kind of inactive in both this game and zona's game, so that's something to take into consideration.

i also think it may be interesting to see how zona's inactive lists have changed over the course of the game. not saying we will definitely get something useful out of them, but we should be looking for patterns.

i welcome thoughts and opinions on this post.



zona, if you want to talk about something, no one has commented on my ideas for day 2 lynch. maybe we can get this squared away before then.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 01:44 GMT
#1313
On March 29 2010 10:39 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2010 10:32 ~OpZ~ wrote:
So lets discuss our lynch targets again.

-_-
This talk of tree.hugger bores me.


I'm pretty sure our lynch targets are:

~Opz~

Because, (and maybe others can vouch for me on this one) your attitude is really really annoying. Better have a town taken over by mafia, then have a town in which people like you are allowed to live.


you may find opz annoying but i think at this point it's necessary to suck it up 'cuz we have far more likely mafia members.

what are your thoughts on who to lynch, besides opz? your posts are going to be useful to the town if you don't get saved by an anti-nuke.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 17:05 GMT
#1359
anti-nuke it opz.

nikon just confirmed himself as mafia.

idiot.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 17:11 GMT
#1364
nikon, you can't slip in under the cover of people nuking when you just so happen do it minutes before the town is finally going to night.

obviously, the majority of the town is for moving onto night. and you just so happen to extend it? creating more chaos? gtfo.

opz, do it before one of his buddies extends it with another one of their nukes.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 17:12 GMT
#1365
On March 30 2010 02:10 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 02:05 Versatile wrote:
anti-nuke it opz.

nikon just confirmed himself as mafia.

idiot.


Yeah, look how well that went with RoL.


then you should have learned from his example, aye?
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 17:19 GMT
#1372
so nikon is going to live until day 2 for sure. either he's mafia, or just a dumbass towny who's got all our attention so the mafia isn't going to kill him.

mafia is probably going to kill one of us active players, so i suggest we all put in the thread what we want the town to know going forth without us before night ends.

my top suspects:
iaaan
caller
amberlight
d3_crescentia

and to a lesser extent:
nikon
fishball


i would like these people to address why they shouldn't be lynched tomorrow. except caller and iaaan. no changing my mind about either of you.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 17:20 GMT
#1373
On March 30 2010 02:13 ~OpZ~ wrote:
You're nuke on L wouldn't of went through if I had them...Really Versatile...You should of guessed that much.


oh. V_V
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 17:24 GMT
#1376
On March 30 2010 02:16 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 02:11 Versatile wrote:
nikon, you can't slip in under the cover of people nuking when you just so happen do it minutes before the town is finally going to night.

obviously, the majority of the town is for moving onto night. and you just so happen to extend it? creating more chaos? gtfo.

opz, do it before one of his buddies extends it with another one of their nukes.


You shouldn't be the one to talk. Also, paraphrasing the late tree.hugger, what's the rush to get to the night?


what opz said. and don't pretend to come in here and all of a sudden have something to say. you haven't given shit to the town and now you want to nuke one of our most active players? are you kidding me? at least i've posted content over and over again and pointed out suspects and helped form plans.

so no, buddy. you shouldn't talk. except to explain your nuke.

i'm beginning to think it's anti-town not to want to move on to day. some town tools (ie- nuking) can only be used during the day, and only once, so not being able to move on handicaps us. explain yourself to the town. if you have a good reason for nuking him, by all means share it. i'm not for lynching someone just because they nuked, but you do need a good reason.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 17:31 GMT
#1381
smh. that's your explanation? that's trash. nikon, you're #1 suspect right now. i suggest you do better or you're being lynched tmw.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 17:36 GMT
#1386
On March 30 2010 02:33 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 02:31 Versatile wrote:
smh. that's your explanation? that's trash. nikon, you're #1 suspect right now. i suggest you do better or you're being lynched tmw.


What? That's your explanation for why I'm a suspect? That's trash. Versatile, you're #1 suspect right now. I suggest you do better or you're being lynched tomorrow.

Seriously, you guys just amaze me.


as long as you're amazed

i hope zona can (and does) nuke you back.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 17:37 GMT
#1388
On March 30 2010 02:36 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 02:34 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On March 30 2010 02:33 Nikon wrote:
On March 30 2010 02:31 Versatile wrote:
smh. that's your explanation? that's trash. nikon, you're #1 suspect right now. i suggest you do better or you're being lynched tmw.


What? That's your explanation for why I'm a suspect? That's trash. Versatile, you're #1 suspect right now. I suggest you do better or you're being lynched tomorrow.

Seriously, you guys just amaze me.


wow nice copy and paste mafia scum


Provide a reason for why I'm mafia.


the letter "i" is in your name. it is also in the word "mafia". that is enough. durr.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 17:46 GMT
#1395
On March 30 2010 02:38 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 02:36 Versatile wrote:
On March 30 2010 02:33 Nikon wrote:
On March 30 2010 02:31 Versatile wrote:
smh. that's your explanation? that's trash. nikon, you're #1 suspect right now. i suggest you do better or you're being lynched tmw.


What? That's your explanation for why I'm a suspect? That's trash. Versatile, you're #1 suspect right now. I suggest you do better or you're being lynched tomorrow.

Seriously, you guys just amaze me.


as long as you're amazed

i hope zona can (and does) nuke you back.


I thought it was agreed that my nuke would be shot down due to increased ToD. It's pretty amazing indeed, how you just jumped in the last page of the thread, saw that I nuked and decided that I'm mafia. Kinda cute how your buddy amber is helping you out here, don't you think?


i've calling amber mafia all game so don't try to align me with him. if anything, that aligns the two of you more. agreeing with me doesn't clear him in my eyes. you're an average player. don't try to do more than you're capable of, thanks. your intelligence level is showing.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 17:47 GMT
#1396
On March 30 2010 02:39 Ace wrote:
I is in your name too Versatile.

derp derp!


go watch porn.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 17:52 GMT
#1400
@ opz, nope.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 19:57 GMT
#1418
jeejee, i don't know what to say to you, as you haven't provide any new arguments against me, but you ask for responses from everyone.

i launched two nukes. i've explained myself a gazillion times, so no need to address that.

but you have far more convincing arguments for other people, but you put me in tier one. i would have preferred if you just said you wanted me lynched based on my non-town consensus nuking because this seems a little forced to me.

your placement of me in tier one strikes me as odd. but hey; it's your list. rock on.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 20:17 GMT
#1420
i don't get it opz. where did amber say he didn't understand why RoL was getting lynched?

and if he did contradict himself like that, he should definitely explain.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 29 2010 23:55 GMT
#1467
On March 30 2010 06:45 Amber[LighT] wrote:
sorry versatile I didn't see that post


no worries.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 30 2010 00:01 GMT
#1468
ummm. if caller's last post isn't telling you all something....smh.

@ nikon. don't feel special, i insult everyone, it doesn't mean a thing.

ie)
random 1: hey there pretty lady
verse: die slow.

random 2: would you like fries or onion rings?
verse: would you like to get some plastic surgery?

random 3: i hate you!!!!
verse: why, thank you.


see? everything's normal, yo.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 30 2010 17:31 GMT
#1483
On March 30 2010 09:55 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 09:01 Versatile wrote:
ummm. if caller's last post isn't telling you all something....smh.

@ nikon. don't feel special, i insult everyone, it doesn't mean a thing.

ie)
random 1: hey there pretty lady
verse: die slow.

random 2: would you like fries or onion rings?
verse: would you like to get some plastic surgery?

random 3: i hate you!!!!
verse: why, thank you.


see? everything's normal, yo.

Not everyone! I totally got a hug!
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2008 11:31 Versatile wrote:
On November 18 2008 11:28 Qatol wrote:
## I switch my vote from Caller to Ver
There you go Verse


yayay!! thanks for cooperating. *hugs*

(you all will just have to adjust to the "girly" tinge of my posts sometimes, lol).

Suck it rest of TL mafia!


lol. i so tried to think up an excuse.... but i gots nothing. weird, paranormal once in a blue moon action right there.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 30 2010 20:18 GMT
#1486
wat.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 31 2010 00:12 GMT
#1495
well then. guess there was no point in deleting since d3 told us about it anyway.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 31 2010 05:17 GMT
#1517
i wish upon you an AIDS-infested anus. die slow.

##lynch xelin
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
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United States396 Posts
March 31 2010 05:23 GMT
#1521
On March 31 2010 14:16 XeliN wrote:
Also presumably a Vigilante type role used their ability to kill Meeple during the night


and how do you even know this?
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United States396 Posts
March 31 2010 05:23 GMT
#1522
On March 31 2010 14:18 XeliN wrote:
If you wish AIDS upon me simply coming round for a night might be quicker than lynching...


i have no night abilities, thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
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United States396 Posts
March 31 2010 05:34 GMT
#1527
@ this moment, i don't know who really gives a fcuk if you have more nukes. you can't fire anymore for today, which will probably last another week. unless you are fired upon.

and where were your arguments against zona when he was nuked by nikon earlier? why don't you share your arguments with the class now?

oh. and i was just going to pretend i didn't know what that comment meant.... but that's a really pathetic way to ask me for sex. and the answer is no.
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United States396 Posts
March 31 2010 05:39 GMT
#1530
On March 31 2010 14:38 XeliN wrote:
I'm going to stop posting for abit, I consider Zona mafia, I'm not going to elaborate on that for various reasons and just going to let my nuke chill up in the sky.

And vers you kinda missed the meaning of my post.


was it that you would like me to give you an aids infested asshole? i don't get down like that, but i have homies who do. let me know.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
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United States396 Posts
March 31 2010 05:48 GMT
#1533
i'm going to bed now, but my advice for now would be not to nuke him. he's acting incredibly stupid and flippant about his nuke on zona that he's just begging for someone to nuke the shit out of him.

i don't know what his plan is, but i don't think we should give it to him. i don't know how many more anti-nukes are out there, but if it doesn't get shot down, i say lynching him is the first step.

g'night.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
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United States396 Posts
March 31 2010 16:05 GMT
#1546
okay well. i want the town to start discussing nuke targets.

who does town think should be nuked?
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United States396 Posts
March 31 2010 16:34 GMT
#1549
umm. which is why i said i want the town to start discussing it. so we could make a decision together.

if i wanted to launch a nuke, i'd just do it haster. but i don't want any nukes launched without town consensus.
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United States396 Posts
March 31 2010 16:36 GMT
#1550
meeple said some things earlier that confirmed him as a green in my eyes, i didn't think he was a blue. but since i decided he was pro-town, i just ignored everyone attacking him.
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United States396 Posts
March 31 2010 21:54 GMT
#1591
xelin, i can't take any of your arguments seriously because you're trying to predict ace's actions. as i said early on in the thread, ace is liable to do any effing thing. you can't base your rationale on what he would or would not do. how many games run by ace have you played in? two, max. i've played in 20+. the only thing you know is that he's going to try to make it fair, and mafia having no nukes is kind of a ridiculous thought.

also, trying to make an argument for or against anything in a game based on the mod is by far the silliest thing i've ever read in a game. the mod is a neutral figure. no alliance to either side. the mod wants to see/ run a good game, so handicapping one side goes against the mod's objective.

you need better reasoning.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
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United States396 Posts
April 01 2010 16:22 GMT
#1690
went to a concert last night and then partied afterward with the band. tried to read the thread @ like 4am CST but was far too high to concentrate. i'll try to catch up now, though i am @ work
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United States396 Posts
April 01 2010 16:47 GMT
#1691
first off: protect fishball, NOT caller. if you protect caller, you're an idiot.

secondly. i'll go with the mass roleclaim idea for day 3. it's dumb as all get out to do it now, when it can benefit the mafia in determining their night kill(s). the only reason i am agreeing with it in this situation is because if something doesn't happen day 3, this is pretty much game over due to the numbers. and if this is what the town wants to do, i'll go with it.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
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United States396 Posts
April 01 2010 16:47 GMT
#1692
On April 01 2010 15:16 Elemenope wrote:
I come back and I see some interesting things.

First off, Iaaan's ability claim is a fairly interesting one. I only have one question to ask though - would you be willing to be nuked by someone to confirm this? If not, why not?

As for fishball's message:
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On April 01 2010 10:35 Fishball wrote:
Nikon, for trying to extend the day for the N'th time with his last minute nuke, against town consensus (duh), at an arguably lesser target based on general consensus, Zona.


I still don't see the reasoning behind this nuke quite honestly. For one, it was largely last moment, I think within the last 5 minutes, no? Two: It's directed at, at least in my opinion, a very pro-town player. And three: it ended up using an anti-nuke. True, we can't confirm the legitimacy of your nuke, but we also can't prove this unless we use Iaaan's claim which I'll address later.

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Caller, lurking and laying low. Of course this alone wouldn't be enough for him to make the top of my list.

Listen up, I am France, a Tracker. One of my abilities is to track who visited who at Night. I used this ability on Caller during Night

...

the most likely scenario is that Caller is red and he killed Meeple.


Going with the assumption that a) Fishball is a tracker who b) can target one person each night and follow that person, it sort of makes sense that Fishball hasn't posted largely during day 1. Caller did seem quite suspicious so I can see why Fishball would track him.

This hinges on the assumption though, that Fishball is indeed a tracker. His story does make sense and gives justifications to his actions back on the eternal Day 1 with him not posting as much. I assume this was to not seem high-priority, though you can correct me if it was done for a different reason.

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On April 01 2010 11:18 Caller wrote:
Well, gentlemen and woman, my idea of coming clean has been most rudely interrupted.

I am Israel, an Alignment Cop.

...

Since he came out scummy, and he was in fact innocent, that narrows it down to insane or paranoid, i.e. that my checks come out reversed, or all countries appear as mafia to my agents.


I'm not sure where to start with this. I don't know whether to say it's conjured up because fishball tracked him, or if this is the case. What I'm confused about is why Nikon? For both sides actually. Nikon was suspicious, at least in my eyes, for firing the nuke on Zona. So I can slightly understand the DT check, though I think it'd be better served on a few other players. As for the bus, I haven't an idea why Nikon and meeple be switched. The whole thing looks a bit sketchy to me and I'd keep an eye on this personally.

lol@the youtube video

Now, given that Zona's confirmed vigilante, let's look at this post:
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On April 01 2010 14:05 Zona wrote:
Alright. Things I want the town to look at in case I die.

Caller's claim is well-crafted, but coincidentally very convenient. First, take note of Foolishness's quote on Ace's general dislike of Bus Driver roles. So that's one point against the claim. But let's assume there is a bus driver, and the bus driver happens to work the way Caller claims. It's too convenient that the bus driver happened to switch Nikon (someone who everyone is suspicious of, and thus a reasonable player to check) and meeple (someone who died). It's convenient that Caller can now claim cop without providing any useful information at all (perhaps he has none). Remember that this is something Caller came up with to otherwise explain the very suspicious track that Fishball claims to have tracked Caller with.


This should be noted and kept in mind. We'll have to look at what Caller posts in terms of information and veracity in order to ascertain his role claim. This also extends to Fishball as well. Since both of these players have roleclaimed, there's no reason for them to withhold any of their night actions once the Day post goes up each time, unless someone can show me otherwise.



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I would say it's highly likely that the balance to the fact that the mafia has such low KP is their power to nuke. As well, notice that someone claims to have their nukes stolen. It's very possible that these nukes are now in mafia hands.


I find this particular piece of information to be a bit troublesome. Someone has had their nuclear weapons stolen. It's particularly troublesome if indeed that this ability is within mafia realm. Especially with the fuckup of Day 1, we are already at Moderate, which is assuming that we have reached approximately half of the ToD. With no mafia found yet, I only hope we have enough anti-nukes to fend off any surprise nuke raid or such.

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If we guess that the setup includes 3-5 mafia and 1 serial killer, then with 16-18 town members and 3 regular deaths per cycle: one lynch, one mafia kill, one sk kill, (we can afford 3 or 4 days of mislynching before we're boned, if we didn't nuke. However, since we've lost quite a few town members to impulsive nukes, the town might be in a losing situation as quickly as day or night 3.

It probably will be a good idea to mass claim and consensus (not impulsive individually) nuke on day 3 if nothing improves between now and then.

If I'm correct that one of the night kills is from the serial killer, eliminating this serial killer will give the town a substantial amount of breathing room it didn't have before.


This is vital. Guys, the first day really set us back. We are down *several* people due to impulsiveness. 3 people are going to die every day barring medic-prots and no-lynches. With no-lynches, we are still going down 2 people every day. We currently have 13 players alive going into night phase which means we may potentially sit at 11 players coming out. We absolutely need to find scum asap.



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To the rest of you town members: Stop lying. Lying hurts the town because the town is trying to work together to figure things out, and lying leads us off track. If the people who are lying so much and diverting the town's attention are actually town, I'm aghast at how you play.
Stop ignoring anti-town actions under the umbrella of "idiot/impulsive" townie.

This. Townies have no reason to lie. The objective of this game isn’t to ‘survive’ or ‘kill all the mafia yourself’, it’s to get rid of all the scum as a whole. The whole reason we are together as a town is because we need to play as a collective town. This impulsive nuke shooting really set us back a lot on day 1, and now on day 2, we’re down another two blues because one of them had a feeling. It is imperative that we work as a town instead of just doing what we feel like individually.

I have a plan that I would like implement tomorrow that does involve roleclaiming after the day post; however, DO NOT ROLE CLAIM TONIGHT. You can roleclaim after the day post goes up, that’s fine. You can wait until after my plan. Whatever. Just whatever you do, do not role claim during this night.

For tomorrow
I would like to see the results of the findings from both Fishball and Caller, explaining why they also chose whoever they chose to track/investigate. With this information, and the role claiming tomorrow, then I hope we can make up for the mishaps during days 1 and 2 and win.

If anybody is in opposition of the roleclaiming on day 3
I’d like to hear reasons why. There may have been something I’ve overlooked and it’s really important we get a good solid plan, so I’m open to criticism, suggestions, or changes to the roleclaiming idea.


this is a very useful post. just thought i would draw attention to it.
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United States396 Posts
April 01 2010 19:22 GMT
#1696
On April 02 2010 03:03 ~OpZ~ wrote:
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On April 02 2010 00:41 haster27 wrote:
I don't necessarily agree with it, but I'll go along with it if that is the Town concensus. It's just that roles like Detective and Tracker become more and more powerful the longer they collect information (especially with the confusion between idiot Townie and, well, normal Mafia).

We got a tracker and a...weird dt....claim....so...

-_-...So much bs nuking...Guess I can't talk much, but at least my target was a suspect. -_- GOD dammit Xelin and Versatile ><


umm, wanna add nikon and RoL to that well?

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jackass.
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United States396 Posts
April 02 2010 02:14 GMT
#1707
almost time for the post, right?
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