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On March 23 2010 01:48 Ace wrote: Oh, RoL can't play because he told me he'd be on Spring Break. So 1 more needed instead. YOU TOTALLY MISINTERPRETED WHAT IMEANT BY ABOUT TO BE ON SPRING BREAK I MEANT I HAD FREE TIME WTF MAKE MORE ROOM. | ||
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It seems honorable. | ||
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##I vote for L | ||
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But yeah you are right, I only have 3 posts I must be mafia. Last time I checked Zona your posts contributed pretty much nothing except noting that I am most likely an innocent since I was added on after the start, now you contradict yourself by saying I am inactive so kill me? In that case I would get modkilled. I mean you could argue I usually never shut the fuck up however I have never played a game with you so you would have no idea to my usual play style. You and Caller both look kind of shitty to me right now, one reason I was sticking with L had to do with that. Neither of you posted anything that constructive and since there is no PMing allowed in this game I will have to assume that Caller is really not doing anything, as opposed to his usual PM circles. | ||
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##Nuke:Caller Viva La Revolucion~ | ||
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On March 25 2010 08:54 JeeJee wrote: ok, i see.. this mason situation is interesting. i hope abenson is at least active behind the scenes with opz as otherwise they are just throwing this away. masons are a huge buff to the town (well, well-played masons are), and unless ace did something hilarious like make them all siblings too (i wouldn't put it past him lolol), i'm feeling a bit more confident. elemenope does have a point that of course they are not confirmed, but that's not relevant atm. what IS relevant is we know they're on the same team. how many mafia do you think there are? losing two has got to be brutal. anyway i agree with voting for deliberately inactive people like rol. hell, he even READ THE POSTS of people that voted for him and all he had to say is "you are insane". you have to put in more effort than that, man, it's been two full days. i will keep my vote on him for now. -- ok so i f5'd the thread before posting and saw your latest post RoL zona contributing nothing? means a lot, coming from a poster who only posted three one-liners up until he's on the chopping block. actually zona has created plans, bounced off ideas, driven discussion. if everyone would do this, we would be in much better shape. conversely, if everyone would do what YOU do (nothing), we'd be screwed. i am still happy with you as the candidate for day one. feel free to convince me otherwise, i will be here. My CTRL+F was actually fucked up and for some reason only scrolled through his first 6 posts. I actually thought he wrote more, but CTRL + F said otherwise. I redid it and it showed his stuff. I am just saying when I die look at his hypocrisy from saying I am most likely innocent to preserve balance which logically makes sense, to I am inactive scum. Oh and the reason I posted you are insane is because I didn't want to say anything before I read so I skimmed a little bit. I decided I don't feel like wasting 2-3 hours reading around 15 pages just to die especially since I think you can get some more information via nuke. | ||
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On March 25 2010 08:55 Elemenope wrote: Actually, you don't die before the nuke lands. Read the rules? Jesus christ. Nukes will stay in the air for 24 hours after they were fired. A player that has been nuked has until the nuclear missiles hit to retaliate. You can only launch 1 nuke/anti-nuke once per day, BUT you may launch a nuke AND retaliate to a nuclear strike if you have enough missiles left. You are not allowed to retaliate strike on a retaliation. Day ends when a player is lynched, and of course no one may nuke at night. Unless I am missing something, me dying has no affect as long as my nuke is launched before my death. The nuke takes 24 hours to hit after it is fired, meaning there is one night then day cycle before my nuke actually hits Caller. I will die by the night, however my nuke should still be in the air. So therefore you should know that I am townie or a mafia before the nuke hits and can decide to either A. Save Caller if I am mafia, or B. Save caller because I am a dumb townie. Or C. Let him die because I could be mind fucking you either way if I was mafia. | ||
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On March 25 2010 09:02 Elemenope wrote: However, since no one can be lynched until any nukes have landed you will have a chance to change votes before it strikes.[/quote]Yeah, you are missing something.[/QUOTE] Where does this say the nuke still won't go off? I assume the 24 hour period has to do with giving you morons the chance to actually use your anti-nuke powers. | ||
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On March 25 2010 09:07 Versatile wrote: hey, just a question here. why does everyone think mafia has only 1KP? the OP states "Mafia have night kills just like in normal games. Mafia can kill 1 player per night no matter how many of them are alive". however, that doesn't mean that they cannot have a higher KP. did ace address that somewhere else where i may have missed it? or is this just a town assumption based on the wording? Its an assumption because usually KP is determined by some formula like 5 total 3 or more living = 2KP and 2 or less living = 1KP. Since KP is the same the entire time there is no reason to say anything else. | ||
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I also wasn't posting as much because I didn't fully read the rules yet LOL! | ||
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Either way it looks some fun is going to happen tonight! w00t w00t and to be honest I did read the rules I just didn't memorize them and didn't reread before acting. | ||
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On March 25 2010 10:29 ~OpZ~ wrote: Well I read through the rules again...I'm assuming I can post PM's between me and him... If you would like this I will post them...Wow...I'm thoroughly appalled by this... I've asked him prior to him getting voted for to post some content, he hasn't replied...He could of talked it over to me his plans or what not.... -_- But no sense lynching him anyway, he is townie. Even I read this part, wtf? No talking about the game outside the thread. This includes Private Messages unless your role gives you permission to do so. You will be mod-killed if this rule is broken. | ||
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On March 25 2010 11:39 Iaaan wrote: Xelin, he has to die because he used a nuke. There isn't any discussion about weather he is mafia or not, he has to die, that was the decision made to control nukes. I kind of want to hear what Zona has to say, but I'm thinking it might be a good idea to let the nuke fall on caller. I agree with the second part, not so much the first. If you know someones innocent what is the point? This could be some insane power play but its unlikely. | ||
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On March 25 2010 11:57 Zona wrote: Wow. You're a star, RoL. You're a real star. But more on that later. I think we as a town have two options. One: anti-nuke, and lynch RoL. Alternatively: let the nuke fall on Caller as some have suggested, and lynch RoL if Caller is not mafia. Option one is what we've been discussing all game, and the reasoning for taking this path is well established. Why does the alternative option have some merit to make it worth considering? Well it centers on the fact that Caller hasn't really contributed, despite being a veteran mod and player. Now that the nuke is already in the air, if you subscribe to my earlier idea that we should be stingy with anti-nukes to have some going to the late-game, we need to think twice before using them. Caller does claim to plan to participate more later, but it's a claim we cannot prove or disprove during the time to make the decision to anti-nuke. If the nuke lands and by some tiny chance Caller is mafia, then RoL is actually okay. He somehow got rid of a mafia for us, even if it was against everything the town has established together in its ground rules. If Caller is revealed as town-aligned OR EVEN THIRD PARTY, then RoL is lynched. Lynch RoL even if Caller is third party because mafia could have easily targeted their nuke at anyone not on their team and just happened to hit third party. But in any case, this is not something we can vote on, since anti-nukes are used privately. We can't hold anti-nuke users accountable in public, so basically all our discussion takes place so those who actually have anti-nukes can read it and make their decision. So those WITH anti-nukes, consider what has been said in the thread and make your decision. What I suggest is that we as a town place 10 or 11 votes on RoL. Then the moment the nuke is resolved, we can finish the lynch by placing the last 1 or 2 votes, or shift the votes away, in the slim chance that the nuke lands and Caller is mafia. Just to point this out, even if Caller flips red I am still not proven innocent. | ||
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On March 25 2010 12:00 johnnyspazz wrote: even if caller turns up mafia, we should lynch RoL for being dumb. he's obviously shown that he has no self control and there's a chance he has more than one nuke. we shouldn't give him the opportunity to launch another one. also i think if his nuke is a dud, we should lynch him anyway. Last time I checked lynching for stupidity was a nono. | ||
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On March 25 2010 12:10 Zona wrote: RebirthOfLegend. Awesome player. Comes into the game without reading and understanding the rules. Without reading the posts. With wrong assumptions left and right. And goes against the plan that everyone other player, so far, has adhered to. And worse - you seem to stop caring about winning (helping your side win) the moment your "life" is in danger by making boneheaded moves. Do you even understand the game? The game is about helping your side win, not surviving. If you somehow live long in the game and your side loses, you still lose. What a piss poor attitude. You signed up to play, and now you don't feel like reading? What did you sign up to do, anyways? To get your username into the "list of players" then ridiculed for not participating? Do you realize that your posts just before you die are the most important posts you make in a game, since when you die, your alignment is revealed and players can re-examine what you've said knowing who you were? So you didn't POST because you didn't fully read the rules...but you decided to NUKE instead? Is your logic a bit backwards? Worried about screwing up your posts (somehow?) by not understanding the game rather than screwing up the GAME by nuking before comprehending? And your obnoxious "LOL"'s in place of any hint of shame or regret. Do you think being cute will make up for the fuckup you've caused? Good riddance. I fucked up, get the fuck over it, holy shit. I read the rules initially but didn't fully memorize them. I just had an idea of what was going on. It was a new concept its not the shit I have learned and relearned the last 15 games of mafia I have played. When shit changes so does how I have to think. The last 2 days the game has been going I have been busy with school and shit. I have had a lot of work to make up before my spring break starts and when I finally am able to sit down to relax and read some mafia I find myself in a situation where like 8 votes have been stacked on me within a half hour. Now I have around 2 hours (being generous) to read everything and present a convincing argument for me to NOT get lynched. Here is how I looked at it. From what I HAD read Caller was being active without saying much, he usually plays like that however. The difference is in most other games hes talking a lot in PM's. This time around there is no PM chat (one of the things I remembered!) and he is still not really contributing much. He is one of the guys you wouldn't want to lynch in case he isn't mafia but quite frankly I would rather kill someone I think is mafia. I chose Caller, I decided he was mafia and opted to nuke him. I think saying that nuking is anti-town is fucking dumb. The mafia and the town have to avoid nuking because alternate conditions can end the game, and neither side would win. What I think is actually about to happen is Caller isn't going to die, at least by my nuke. I think he is mafia and was feigning a weak country (as seen in earlier posts) and the mafia is going to protect him for the night since you can't see who is actually going to do it. You should all decide to NOT protect him so him living would in itself be suspicious and would give you more information. I could be wrong that hes mafia, I really have just a tad bit of behavioral analysis on my side but I am pretty confident in what I said. I think Caller would be grandstanding at this point trying to get power and give some good ideas since hes in a precarious position without any PMing. I fully expect to die, however I think saying my move was anti-town and retarded is dumb in itself. Our goal is to kill the mafia, to say I am trying to make OUR team lose by nuking is dumb. I intend on killing someone I see as mafia and I might as well do it when its the first nuke and the chances of it ending the game are low as shit. If Caller doesn't die tonight I would label that as suspicious. I don't think there is much of a reason to save him. I am dead anyway, I think the posting about what to do about Caller is much more interesting then just mobbing me for having only 3 fucking posts rofl. | ||
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On March 25 2010 12:39 johnnyspazz wrote: last time i checked, that was the whole premise on why we lynched BM last game I didn't play last game. In rare cases do you lynch on stupidity (unless you believe its a mafia feint tactic) | ||
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On March 25 2010 13:18 Zona wrote: Since I'm going through everything again I might as well respond to this as well. A player is allowed to change their mind when a good reason is given. And the reason was given here: Just to respond to this real quick. It wasn't some amazing revelation. You must of clearly thought of the possibility that I was indeed scum or third party, but that adding an extra player for balance sake would most likely be a weak townie since it would have much less of an effect on the game. Since a simple pointing that out statement changed your mind it was just kind of like... like you didn't think of that already? Moment. Seemed like you might of regretted saying it. Maybe I was just thinking about it too much, who knows. --------------------- On March 25 2010 13:18 Zona wrote: Here's an interesting one: So you're saying lynching someone for being inactive is bad. (Actually for the day 1 lynch I would say it's often the best we can do. But let's go with your premise for the moment.) And your case against Caller is that he's...being inactive. Because you expect him otherwise to be really involved by "grandstanding" and so on. And you think so strongly about your case that you think you should nuke him. To summarize: Caller's worth nuking because he was inactive, but you're NOT worth lynching because you were inactive. Sigh. You missed the point, I said why are you lynching me for being inactive on a whim of sorts and I said that the reason caller was suspicious was NOT because of inactivity, but because of the content of his posts and what I would normally expect. He never mentioned being distracted by anything else like school, etc. He was just posting noncontent which is generally considered mafiaish behavior but he usually gets away with it because he is one of the players who works more behind the scenes. The way he is playing coy and innocent is also kind of strange to me. He seems to be trying to pull off indifference to hope that someone saves him/mafia saves him and not become aggressive and start accusing to bring more attention/focus to himself. I think lynching for inactivity is generally an okay idea for Day 1 in normal games that have a bunch of noobs, in games when you deal with harsh inactivity rules and generally "experienced" players chances are you won't see as much "I really don't want to be thought of so I just won't post" mentality and more of the cruising by by saying nothing good/bad mentality. | ||
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also Zona said: I'm glad you're posting more than fluff now that you're in the hot spot. I am already dead and have been for pages. I am just posting my thoughts. Once I hit 12 votes I was dead, there is no defense for me now, I am lynched. Unless somehow nukes change voting rules in which case I might still be dead. | ||
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There is no way around that and without my nuke none of this conversation would have been happening. I would of been dead ~2 hours ago. I honestly can't believe you were the one jumping down my throat for being a retard. | ||
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Or a townie, who kind of just adds one to the town and overall looking at the ROLE itself not the people playing it is much LESS influential on the outcome of the game. This has nothing to do at all with "Me thinking greens are worthless" but to say they are of equal importance to a medic would be foolish. | ||
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On March 25 2010 14:16 Ace wrote: You can. The nuke just delays everything so you can literally do whatever you want as if the day was still going on. Since I already went over 12 votes, if they were to switch would I still live even though the minimum vote count has been reached anyway? | ||
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Also that is like saying "HOLY SHIT ROL KILLED CALLER, THAT MUST MEAN HE IS MAFIA" "...Or vigilante?" From the sounds of this game most countries have nuking powers, I also never said whether or not my nuke was real or fake, nor my country, or my alignment. I also don't plan on saying any of those. I guess you could argue since I was a late entry I would NOT get a role with ANY power what so ever, and in most cases I would agree with you. However I do not think any of us have played a mafia game that is quite like this. Perhaps most/all countries have powers and I got a particularly underpowered one. Who knows? From what you say you are under the impression that you are either A. A weak country who doesn't think I SHOULD have more power than he does (assuming my nuke is legitimate) or B. A mafia who has a fair amount of powers and is assuming most other roles are not as powerful as you initially anticipated. I am inclined to the latter. | ||
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Out of respect for the host I am not going to say my role, my power, or whether or not my nuke is real. | ||
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I think right now most people are just asleep though and its not just the mafia letting two "townies" fight to the death. | ||
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On March 25 2010 14:59 meeple wrote: Jeesus... yeah sorry for the long away time guys, but I was learning mandarin and sleeping for the past long while. So... I guess for now we assume Abenson and OpZ are town-aligned masons. It would take massive mafia cajones to pull it off otherwise. I've said before that I don't agree usually with lynching most inactive, I mean it tells us nothing about the person or possible ties. I don't know why Zona was so pushy for it, since there are obviously some better targets when we consider that we have two basically confirmed townies and a better choice would be to sift through the votes for Abenson(yes I know I'm on that list...) and see who tried to push the bandwagon. Having said that I'm rather glad that RoL launched the nuke... since it gives us a little more time to consider what the hell just went on here. There's no reason to lynch him for "being dumb" or not reading the rules to their fullest extent. It's kinda a weird game, and not really that similar to traditional mafia so of course there will be miscommunications. Zona, I dunno why you're pushing so hard still for RoL when he seems in the grave for sure, but neither of the reasons that were given to lynch him are really all that valid. Hell, if anything his slip-up gave us a rare look into real motivations... where he's seeking to prove his innocence by his own demise and perhaps take out a red with his last breath. I fully expect RoL to turn up green... However, I'm not totally against him being lynched, seeing as he did violate the "Nuking without town consent" policy. I'll follow this up with some more analysis soon. Just to respond to you, I never agreed to that policy. It seemed really retarded. The town will never be on a 100% consensus for a lynch, let alone a nuke that [could] lose us the game. It seemed like a real bullshit cop out to me. and no lynching period was even dumber. Its a power we should utilize. Seriously? Who the fuck ever expects even 55% of the town to agree on nuking a single person? | ||
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On March 25 2010 15:31 Zona wrote: I can't sleep, so I'm still here. You do realize if we never reach >50% consensus on lynching, we'll never get to lynch? So the policy on nuking is identical to the mechanics of lynching. The policy is there to use nukes as extra lynches when the town is desperate and feels it might be on the verge of defeat. Using nukes otherwise brings us towards the situation where no one wins (except for my guess on a third party which wins when radiation is too high). must...control...rage.... Lynching is not the same as nuking and the dynamic is different as YOU just ADMITTED in your followup where you changed your mind from retaliation nukes to lynching the nuker. The damage caused by the nukes makes it harder to get a consensus compared a lynch where the only risk is killing an innocent as opposed to raising radiation and killing a innocent as POTENTIAL risks. Meaning I don't see how you expect to get EVEN 55% of the town to agree on something more controversial than a lynch. The suggestion for nuking seemed like a large majority not just 55% to be okay with it, meaning you want ideally like 75% good with the lynch. Anyway if you also act stingy with nukes you allow the Mafia to be more liberal with them later on, since there is no radiation threat yet. I say he who casts the first nuke, rapes the most ass. | ||
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The current policy is DON'T NUKE unless a large majority of the town agrees that it is in the best interest of the town. The reasons this is dumb goes as follows. It would be a pain in the ass to get a good majority for nuking with the mafia covertly arguing against it IF it doesn't benefit them. I also think we need to use nukes so the mafia can't fully utilize them later. No nuking period was also pretty stupid. It is a power we should utilize and should really avoid the mafia manipulating us into nuking the wrong people. We as the town should take the initiative with our nukes and get shit done. Being a pacifist little bitch has never won a war and it's not going to work here. I was ganged up on out of no where and this is how I responded. Maybe I would of went along with this shit and tried to understand the game more, but we are past that. We are here, where a nuke is flying at Callers face and Zona is acting the part of a fool. We are creating a fuckton of content right now for later on in the game when more shit is revealed. I said before, I think we have to refuse to save Caller to get an idea of his alignment. The mafia can quietly save him since you PM anti missile shit and he can claim it was an actual townie and bullshit us that way, but if we agree that Caller must die then Caller has no excuse to make for him being alive after the fact. We can get a LOT of information out of this. Its a matter of how we play it from here on out. Kill me, or don't kill me. It is irrelevant at this point to be honest. You can think I am full of shit, you can think what you want. But tell me one thing I did that was suspicious besides not post too much for around a day because I had school, or was it me launching a nuke and disagreeing with the towns retarded anti-nuke policy. If this was real life then yeah maybe we shouldn't nuke the shit out of people because of the bad light it would put our respective countries in, however its mafia, where nukes kill people and our goal is to rain death. To not use our nuking powers and test the limits of ToD would be stupid. We would essentially be waiting for the mafia to just use it, or for them to manipulate us into thinking we are using it. I don't see why we should wait that long, maybe waiting more than a single day would be good, but I decided to just nuke the shit out of some people. | ||
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On March 25 2010 15:58 Zona wrote: Wait, the consequences of nuking are GREATER than lynching, so we should LOWER THE BAR on how easily they can be used? It's precisely because the consequences of nuking at greater than lynching we also demand that the town agrees before they are used. I disagree. On March 25 2010 15:52 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: The suggestion for nuking seemed like a large majority not just 55% to be okay with it, meaning you want ideally like 75% good with the lynch. Now you're just putting words in my mouth. In no post at all have I mentioned 75%, three quarters, or anything along those lines. It was implied. On March 25 2010 15:52 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Anyway if you also act stingy with nukes you allow the Mafia to be more liberal with them later on, since there is no radiation threat yet. Part of the policy is to reserve anti-nukes precisely to deal with the threat of late game mafia nukes. But just because some other team can bring us to the radiation threshold doesn't mean we ourselves should approach it first. Whoever reaches the threshold first has successfully increased their overall KP. Whats the problem here? | ||
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I believe I am constructively using the town KP for if nothing else information. | ||
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On March 25 2010 21:17 Amber[LighT] wrote: I don't understand why someone launches a nuke when we specifically say "DO NOT LAUNCH ANY NUKES IF YOU ARE PRO-TOWN." What the hell RoL? There is a limit to how many nukes can be launched, and you arbitrarily decided to send one flying through the air? We have no info in this thread right now other than than the fact that you're acting like an idiot. LEARN2READ. Just because you are dumb enough to go with whatever a bunch of guys said about nuking being "anti-town" doesn't mean it is. I disagreed with that, and I nuked someone I found suspicious. | ||
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On March 25 2010 21:56 meeple wrote: I think he was being serious... just said in a joking manner. I don't think he has anti-nuke abilities, or if he does he's hiding them in the hopes that another country will save him. I don't think RoL really elaborated on his suspicion of Caller or if he did I can't find it, so there might not be much for Caller to respond to. Don't worry, I will look that up for you. + Show Spoiler + On March 25 2010 12:10 Zona wrote: RebirthOfLegend. Awesome player. Comes into the game without reading and understanding the rules. Without reading the posts. With wrong assumptions left and right. And goes against the plan that everyone other player, so far, has adhered to. And worse - you seem to stop caring about winning (helping your side win) the moment your "life" is in danger by making boneheaded moves. Do you even understand the game? The game is about helping your side win, not surviving. If you somehow live long in the game and your side loses, you still lose. What a piss poor attitude. You signed up to play, and now you don't feel like reading? What did you sign up to do, anyways? To get your username into the "list of players" then ridiculed for not participating? Do you realize that your posts just before you die are the most important posts you make in a game, since when you die, your alignment is revealed and players can re-examine what you've said knowing who you were? So you didn't POST because you didn't fully read the rules...but you decided to NUKE instead? Is your logic a bit backwards? Worried about screwing up your posts (somehow?) by not understanding the game rather than screwing up the GAME by nuking before comprehending? And your obnoxious "LOL"'s in place of any hint of shame or regret. Do you think being cute will make up for the fuckup you've caused? Good riddance. I fucked up, get the fuck over it, holy shit. I read the rules initially but didn't fully memorize them. I just had an idea of what was going on. It was a new concept its not the shit I have learned and relearned the last 15 games of mafia I have played. When shit changes so does how I have to think. The last 2 days the game has been going I have been busy with school and shit. I have had a lot of work to make up before my spring break starts and when I finally am able to sit down to relax and read some mafia I find myself in a situation where like 8 votes have been stacked on me within a half hour. Now I have around 2 hours (being generous) to read everything and present a convincing argument for me to NOT get lynched. Here is how I looked at it. From what I HAD read Caller was being active without saying much, he usually plays like that however. The difference is in most other games hes talking a lot in PM's. This time around there is no PM chat (one of the things I remembered!) and he is still not really contributing much. He is one of the guys you wouldn't want to lynch in case he isn't mafia but quite frankly I would rather kill someone I think is mafia. I chose Caller, I decided he was mafia and opted to nuke him. I think saying that nuking is anti-town is fucking dumb. The mafia and the town have to avoid nuking because alternate conditions can end the game, and neither side would win. What I think is actually about to happen is Caller isn't going to die, at least by my nuke. I think he is mafia and was feigning a weak country (as seen in earlier posts) and the mafia is going to protect him for the night since you can't see who is actually going to do it. You should all decide to NOT protect him so him living would in itself be suspicious and would give you more information. I could be wrong that hes mafia, I really have just a tad bit of behavioral analysis on my side but I am pretty confident in what I said. I think Caller would be grandstanding at this point trying to get power and give some good ideas since hes in a precarious position without any PMing. I fully expect to die, however I think saying my move was anti-town and retarded is dumb in itself. Our goal is to kill the mafia, to say I am trying to make OUR team lose by nuking is dumb. I intend on killing someone I see as mafia and I might as well do it when its the first nuke and the chances of it ending the game are low as shit. If Caller doesn't die tonight I would label that as suspicious. I don't think there is much of a reason to save him. I am dead anyway, I think the posting about what to do about Caller is much more interesting then just mobbing me for having only 3 fucking posts rofl. | ||
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Just another note, I am totally okay with dying. I think not killing me would probably be dumb. You don't really get any information or the ability to look back in hindsight and see what peoples motivations might have been. Plus no lynching is ANTI-TOWN!!!!!!!@!@!@!!!!! | ||
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On March 26 2010 04:39 Amber[LighT] wrote: BTW once again for the records RoL is not a great player, Ace could tell you that but he's restraining... I know it You suck more. b) RoL decided to become active I was going to be active either way. That just forced me to do it earlier. On March 26 2010 05:35 nemY wrote: In light of certain circumstances I'm changing my vote to ##RebirthOfLegend Regardless of whether he's town or not we set about some ground rules and he openly breaks them. I don't really think we should analyze and discuss this on a case-by-case basis because he FUCKED UP and needs to pay for it. I do get it... really I do, he's likely to be a townie, but nonetheless there needs to be consequences for people who play gung-ho or else this game's gonna go downhill fast. This entire post is bullshit, congrats I offically find you suspicious. I strait up say I want to be lynched and you are like we must set principle on me? This is retarded, every bit of it. You don't think we should analyze this situation? What game are you playing rofl? On March 26 2010 05:42 L wrote: The simplest way is to use say something in the open that is qualified by something only Opz would know. Then again, I guess most people don't know anything to use in that manner. Granted the fact that this is a sc site, ask him to play some games, then develop a conditional based on the results of the games. If we went 5-0 i'm a dt if we went 4-1 i'm a townie if we went 3-2 i'm USSR and i have a billion nukes. You can easily get by the restrictions on PMs if you know you can code your information based on something that only the other player would know. Whether or not that's too much work for most people is another question entirely. Granted the lazy factor up in here. On that note, if anyone wants to play 5 or so games of SC2, feel free to look my name up in the HoN thread. Yeah last time I checked, rules were meant to be worked around and broken. What the fuck? Do you think you are showtime? Stop being an asshole and just communicate in the thread. On March 26 2010 06:02 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Yeah i guess the whole problem with this RoL thing is that somehow people got convinced to vote for him for being inactive, so he goes ahead and nukes someone - really, we should have seen this coming. There are probably only a few players in this game who wouldn't fire off the last minute death nuke on whoever they find suspicious. This then puts us in a tough spot because now we're forced to lynch him by protocol even though he is no longer inactive. Tough shit i guess. Depending on how the night kill turns out, I suggest looking at d3_crescentia and tree.hugger and maybe Xelin. It should also be somewhat clear about a few persons' alignment besides Opz and Aben. Also, i don't think we should read too hard into the people defending or supporting the lynch of RoL when he flips. It's easy to incriminate someone who fucked up and both town and mafia alike will have called him out on it. What the fuck? Do you guys not understand I was inactive for like 24 hours and got fucking mobbed for it? Yeah I became fucking active, because my schedule fucking allowed it. Its very similar to how tomorrow I wouldn't post for around 12 hours because I have school from 10-1 then work from 3-10. Yet you are surprised that on my day off from school/work that I am suddenly "active"? This has to be some elaborate joke to annoy me. | ||
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However if we agree to NOT anti-nuke the mafia would have to make a decision. Do we let our player die? or do we use OUR anti-nukes and try to convince the town the next day that some ingenious townie decided to save caller AGAINST the towns will. Which since we agree this play is mafia you can see who is trying to save caller. Not saving anti-nuking caller is the smartest thing to do in this situation. and Haster7, I am not a very emotional player. I get irritated sometimes, that's about it. I will not be launching retaliation nukes every 5 minutes, considering I don't have any left. | ||
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Viva La Revolucion. Good luck~ | ||
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My power is limited, and I didn't realize my power was supposed to post in the thread. | ||
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On March 25 2010 08:43 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ...... You and Caller both look kind of shitty to me right now, one reason I was sticking with L had to do with that. Neither of you posted anything that constructive and since there is no PMing allowed in this game I will have to assume that Caller is really not doing anything, as opposed to his usual PM circles. On March 25 2010 08:54 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ...... ##Nuke:Caller Viva La Revolucion~ omm jus sayin yo~ Insane game though. | ||
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So was there foul play or not? I honestly was just legit AFK and had been mafia before. Feigning AFK is only how I played mafia once. | ||
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