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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 31 2010 01:09 GMT
#1501
In any case, my draft OP for the games I host actually has that rule there (no example violation, though), but I looked over it and saw that it was long enough already and as I was in the process of trimming it down, I didn't recall seeing anyone breaking a rule like that, so I stripped it out. But since your previous post showed that this kind of stuff could happen on TL mafia, I had to put the rule back in.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
March 31 2010 01:10 GMT
#1502
I agree
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 31 2010 01:21 GMT
#1503
On March 31 2010 10:04 XeliN wrote:
Actually I think I can explain, in his mafia game he implemented a new rule as a result of what I wrote, I think his reaction to it is one that a mafia member would make and whilst certainly a townie could too (trust me it was lame, can't stress this enough) I think it more likely that he is mafia.

The BOLD part was my reaction. Do keep in mind that while I want to win, I only want to do so within the confines of the game. In any case, I had no idea that you would actually remove your post in reaction to my rule change in a game that you had no involvement in. I certainly didn't expect that my game rules would somehow spill back into a game I was not hosting.


(And I do need to defend myself here. Otherwise this statement made against me:
On March 31 2010 09:59 XeliN wrote:
I can say that I consider Zona to be mafia as a result, but won't//can't explain further."
just hangs out there which I cannot rebut, as he "won't explain further".)

@Iaaan: You might want to mention who you're agreeing with, because I'm not sure.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 31 2010 01:30 GMT
#1504
On March 31 2010 10:05 Zona wrote:
That's awful logic. Because I want the games I host to be fair, so I must be mafia?


I wouldn't go as far as to say its awful. It's a long shot, but I understand where he is coming from.
靈魂交響曲
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 31 2010 01:44 GMT
#1505
On March 31 2010 10:30 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2010 10:05 Zona wrote:
That's awful logic. Because I want the games I host to be fair, so I must be mafia?


I wouldn't go as far as to say its awful. It's a long shot, but I understand where he is coming from.

Okay. Since you understand where he is coming from, I assume you saw what he posted.

Sequence of events:
Xelin posts something which is supposed to establish that he is pro-town.
I go and add a rule to the games I host (which have nothing to do with this game!), and do not react at all in this game.
Xelin edits out his post after reading about my game, which ostensibly has its own rule set and doesn't mix with this game whatsoever. His edit admits his post is "dubious" and a later post admits it was a "lame attempt to circumvent [rules]".
Xelin says that this sequence of events makes him view me as mafia.


Here's the two ways I can see him drawing this conclusion.
1st possible way: The new rule "helps" mafia by taking an "option" away from the town. So Zona must be thinking about how to help mafia and is mafia in this game. But the "option" I take away, which you attempted in this game, doesn't just "help" town, it removes all purpose in playing the game altogether. I add the rule so we can continue to play the game of mafia, instead of having the game revolve around all town-aligned players doing what you just did.

2nd possible way: Zona knew somehow that his rule addition would cause Xelin to remove his post that was showing his pro-townness. Therefore Zona didn't want the town to see Xelin's post. So that means Zona is mafia. Like I said before, I had no idea you would react in that way. I had my own players in mind when I did that, not you.

Both of these possible logical sequences are flawed. That's why I say that it is awful logic that my adding a rule in my game somehow is evidence of my being mafia in this game.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 31 2010 01:52 GMT
#1506
I didn't see what he posted, but I know what it was about since I read the Ban List thread as well.
I had a feeling you were going to slap a big post, and I totally agree with the ways you listed.

However, my statement is really that simple. I'm just specifically saying that I can see where he is coming from. Not that if he is Mafia or not, not that if you are Mafia or not, not that I agree with him or not, but understand why and how he came up with that statement.
靈魂交響曲
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 31 2010 02:04 GMT
#1507
I didn't remove my post as a reaction to what you wrote, in fact I saw it after i'd decided to myself so don't assume things, and all I am saying is that I consider your reaction to be more consistent with if you were mafia than if you were town.

Like i have stated it is simply a feeling on my part much like my feeling that Elemenope is mafia.
Adonai bless
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 31 2010 02:09 GMT
#1508
On March 31 2010 11:04 XeliN wrote:
I didn't remove my post as a reaction to what you wrote, in fact I saw it after i'd decided to myself so don't assume things, and all I am saying is that I consider your reaction to be more consistent with if you were mafia than if you were town.

Just to make things perfectly clear. By my "reaction" are you referring to my adding of the new rule to the games I am hosting?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 31 2010 03:06 GMT
#1509
Hmm, not in itself, the way you added it, without writing anything in the actual thread for one, I think if you were townie you would be more inclined to do so. Also the way you worded it, just basically you strike me as mafia from the reaction you had (as compared to how I might expect a townie to react)
Adonai bless
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 31 2010 04:50 GMT
#1510
You know what, I was about to let it slide but I'm on the verge of modkilling you. Whatever you did the post was edited and is no longer part of the game. Stop using it to reference an argument especially when you know what you did was definitely against the rules of the game.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 31 2010 04:59 GMT
#1511
Day 2


[image loading]


Meeple (United Nations Security Council, pro town, Ambiguous Cop) has been found dead. Harbingers of war invaded UNSC offices around the world.

Amber[light] (Pakistan, pro town, Vanilla Towny) was destroyed during the night. Perpetrators infiltrated the country and wreaked massive damage and murdered hundreds of important government officials.

You may now vote on suspects!

With 15 alive, it is 8 to lynch!

Day 2 currently ends Friday April 2nd, 13:00 KST!

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 31 2010 05:05 GMT
#1512
##Nuke Zona## !!
Adonai bless
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
March 31 2010 05:07 GMT
#1513
Son of a bitch...

Well... good luck town. Hopefully you can stop nuking each other long enough to rid the mafia.
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
March 31 2010 05:12 GMT
#1514
On March 31 2010 14:05 XeliN wrote:
##Nuke Zona## !!


Seriously?
In DotA you could
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-31 22:42:37
March 31 2010 05:13 GMT
#1515
JUST LIKE OLD TIMES!

[image loading]


Day 2 starts off with a missile shocking no one! Xelin's arsenal will strike Zona at 14:05 April 1st KST!



Nukes in the air: 1
Nukes detonated: 4
Radiation levels: moderate


Day 2 currently ends Friday April 2nd, 13:00 KST!!


Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 31 2010 05:16 GMT
#1516
Also presumably a Vigilante type role used their ability to kill Meeple during the night
Adonai bless
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 31 2010 05:17 GMT
#1517
i wish upon you an AIDS-infested anus. die slow.

##lynch xelin
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 31 2010 05:18 GMT
#1518
If you wish AIDS upon me simply coming round for a night might be quicker than lynching...
Adonai bless
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
March 31 2010 05:21 GMT
#1519
##vote: Xelin
No, seriously, what the hell? Is this some elaborate prank that I'm not aware of?
In DotA you could
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 31 2010 05:22 GMT
#1520
On March 31 2010 14:16 XeliN wrote:
Also presumably a Vigilante type role used their ability to kill Meeple during the night


And why would you presume that?
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