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haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 29 2010 20:32 GMT
#1421
This is my analysis on Nikon.

Actually, he did not seem to make any notable anti-town moves until he suddenly hurled a random nuke toward Zona like all non-concensus nuker does. I think he is being thought as more suspicious than others because most of the Town trust Zona as pro-town, perhaps even more so than L.

I have already pointed out nuking simply because of contradiction is flimsy reasoning. At least other people have some reason or grudge that made them launch nukes- to contrary, I feel that Nikon came out of nowhere when he started his criticism of Zona and soon followed it up with nuke. As in, contradiction can be scum-tell, but just that it is strange that single contradiction has given Nikon enough conviction about him being scum to launch the nuke.

"Let me spell it out for you. Five people are already dead, and it's only Day 1. All of them were town-affiliated. You can say that we're in a bit of a crisis right now."; This quote suggests that he is following the early town policy (extend the day as far as possible) while managing to sound hypocritical - because it is non-concensus nukers like him which pushed the town intio this position - at the same time. I don't know if I am overanalyzing this here, but this post could be attempt to paint himself as irrational Townie.

One thing I like to note is that he is criticizing people for focusing on inactive players. After we find out his alignment we can use this to possibly detect how active the Mafia team actually is.

Either way, I don't think I need to tell you that we need to lynch Mafia on day 2. This is critical since it will give us some groundwork, as we have no comment we with 100% certainty know had been spoken with anti-town intent.

I suggest lynching Xelin as lowest priority for now because he is just as likely to be third party as Mafia, and simply lynching anti-town role who do not know the identity of other Mafia isn't going to be that helpful at all.

For me, day 2 lynch should either be Nikon, Versatile, or one of the suspected inactives at very worst so we at least have idea what is general strategy of Mafia. I hope everyone else propose their lynch list so that when we finally go into day 2, we have concrete plan to follow instead of wandering aimlessly (followed by equally aimless nuke).

Also, like I said in the previous notes, we should stop using nukes for day 1 at least. We should not give any more opportunities for scum to fire a shot at us until Japan and Sweden is able to use anti-nukes again.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 29 2010 20:56 GMT
#1422
Hey guys, let's play spot a REAL contradiction. Here's an easy one to start off:

On March 24 2010 01:07 Nikon wrote:
Let's not nuke anyone just yet, shall we?

On March 24 2010 04:43 Nikon wrote:
Overall, I'd say that I agree with the "Lynch the nuker" plan. What's really interesting is: what if the mafia doesn't have nukes? Then what?

On March 24 2010 20:32 Nikon wrote:
No, we need an exact definite decision against nukes. Instantly lynching the person that launched them is a good one at this point of the game, since it doesn't leave room for him to retaliate to counter-nukes, should he have more than one. I know that you don't want to get lynched and there are votes for you, but flaunting your arsenal in the manner that you are, isn't going to help you. Even if you launch nuke(s) we can shoot them down, don't worry.

On March 28 2010 23:01 Nikon wrote:
I don't want to get nuked by you crazy sobs.

On March 28 2010 23:19 Nikon wrote:
Let's abide by the lynch a nuker plan then, starting with Xelin.

Very consistent so far! I wonder what's coming next?

On March 30 2010 01:49 Nikon wrote:
Oh yeah, before I forget...

##Nuke: Zona

"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
March 29 2010 21:03 GMT
#1423
I guess people are wondering why I'm not posting. Basically, I'm disgusted with the way most of you guys are playing the game. Instead of rising above the shit and being an exemplar, I have turned on my heels and fumed from afar.

I already explained my position on the nuking bullshit dozens of pages ago and I have not changed my mind. JeeJee seems to share the same sentiments I do (he also made a good case for Verse probably being green). Nikon's nuke is goddamn stupid and I hope it is fake.

Basically most people seem to be acting upon who they do not like, or who has somehow insulted them, and not on who they believe to be mafia. I don't care if you don't like Zona or L or me or whoever, you need to realize that the only way you're going to win is to put petty bullshit behind you and figure out who is actually on the other god damn team. Tree.hugger realized this after he fucked up and made some really good posts, esp. his last long one. The only new information we are gaining by extending this day is who is stupid and who is not. Yes, I'm keeping track. Just as the mafia has night roles, the town has them too. If we have a DT it's probably a good idea to let him actually use his role, yes? And so far no mafia has been struck by a nuke. Maybe, just maybe we are doing something wrong? Perrhaps caller is red, and i think there is an argument for that. Who the mafia kills tonight is also a good source of info. I was expecting Zona or LMNOP to be hit, but it looks like the town took care of that for them. Thanks guys. Maybe haster27 now, or a bluesnipe i would expect.

LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 29 2010 21:10 GMT
#1424
I have no nukes, and I do not have any anti-nukes.

My question is: Why have you, Nikon, gone after me with your "analysis" and have not "analyzed" any other player in the game in the same way? Let's take a closer look.


He has only provided one single reason to justify his actions, even when repeatedly questioned:
On March 29 2010 20:23 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 23:12 Zona wrote:
Post your plans, comments on plans, who you're suspicious of, what actions seem anti-town, etc. Plus posting isn't just to add to the discussion, but to allow the town to get a read on YOU. If you don't give us anything to work with, lurker scum can use you as someone to hide among. If you're town, that is.


And then there's

Show nested quote +
On March 29 2010 00:06 Zona wrote:
We have 3 nuke-initiators. If we get no further information I'm comfortable lynching any among them. But we haven't even hit the first night yet, why don't we at least wait to see what information surfaces before we talk about an event that's far in the future?


You're directly disagreeing with yourself. Based on this and how you've omitted various pieces of information in your nice big posts, I'd say that you're red.

This is the sole reason he has provided to justify his nuke on me.

First, I've already explained why it is not a contradiction. But to quickly re-iterate: I suggest posting more plans and suspicions, but not solidly deciding on who to lynch until the next day.

However, let's for some reason suppose you don't buy my explanation and consider it a real contradiction. Now comes the question. Is this single contradiction enough to declare that surely I'm "red"? Furthermore, this "contradiction" that I posted - does it promote actions that really harm the town in the long run?

Finally, notice is that Nikon has not gone after anyone else in the thread in the same manner. Nikon has shown no interest in finding contradictions in anyone else's play. Nikon is exclusively going after me, for a single flimsy reason.

What's going on? He's not pointing me out in a general attempt to help the town, but in an attempt to justify his nuke on me. I honestly don't think I was even that threatening to him, given that my post on him was among posts on many players, but his response is to first make his one flimsy argument on me then nuke.




By now, so many nukes have been launched that perhaps mafia feel safe in joining the fray. After all, at this rate the town isn't even going to kill our nuke-launchers for awhile - so they don't fear being immediately killed if they nuke.



Summary: Nikon tries to paint me as scummy by pointing at a single "contradiction". He repeats himself several times with no new evidence, then goes off and launches a nuke. He has shown no sign of examining anyone else in the same manner. The conclusion to be reached is that all he wanted to do is to nuke me, and his posts are there to try to justify the nuke.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 29 2010 21:11 GMT
#1425
Read this version of my post - I made a mistake in the previous one with a paragraph I was writing for my next post.

On March 30 2010 06:10 Zona wrote:
I have no nukes, and I do not have any anti-nukes.

My question is: Why have you, Nikon, gone after me with your "analysis" and have not "analyzed" any other player in the game in the same way? Let's take a closer look.


He has only provided one single reason to justify his actions, even when repeatedly questioned:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2010 20:23 Nikon wrote:
On March 28 2010 23:12 Zona wrote:
Post your plans, comments on plans, who you're suspicious of, what actions seem anti-town, etc. Plus posting isn't just to add to the discussion, but to allow the town to get a read on YOU. If you don't give us anything to work with, lurker scum can use you as someone to hide among. If you're town, that is.


And then there's

On March 29 2010 00:06 Zona wrote:
We have 3 nuke-initiators. If we get no further information I'm comfortable lynching any among them. But we haven't even hit the first night yet, why don't we at least wait to see what information surfaces before we talk about an event that's far in the future?


You're directly disagreeing with yourself. Based on this and how you've omitted various pieces of information in your nice big posts, I'd say that you're red.

This is the sole reason he has provided to justify his nuke on me.

First, I've already explained why it is not a contradiction. But to quickly re-iterate: I suggest posting more plans and suspicions, but not solidly deciding on who to lynch until the next day.

However, let's for some reason suppose you don't buy my explanation and consider it a real contradiction. Now comes the question. Is this single contradiction enough to declare that surely I'm "red"? Furthermore, this "contradiction" that I posted - does it promote actions that really harm the town in the long run?

Finally, notice is that Nikon has not gone after anyone else in the thread in the same manner. Nikon has shown no interest in finding contradictions in anyone else's play. Nikon is exclusively going after me, for a single flimsy reason.

What's going on? He's not pointing me out in a general attempt to help the town, but in an attempt to justify his nuke on me. I honestly don't think I was even that threatening to him, given that my post on him was among posts on many players, but his response is to first make his one flimsy argument on me then nuke.


Summary: Nikon tries to paint me as scummy by pointing at a single "contradiction". He repeats himself several times with no new evidence, then goes off and launches a nuke. He has shown no sign of examining anyone else in the same manner. The conclusion to be reached is that all he wanted to do is to nuke me, and his posts are there to try to justify the nuke.

"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
March 29 2010 21:17 GMT
#1426
On March 30 2010 05:56 Zona wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Hey guys, let's play spot a REAL contradiction. Here's an easy one to start off:

On March 24 2010 01:07 Nikon wrote:
Let's not nuke anyone just yet, shall we?

On March 24 2010 04:43 Nikon wrote:
Overall, I'd say that I agree with the "Lynch the nuker" plan. What's really interesting is: what if the mafia doesn't have nukes? Then what?

On March 24 2010 20:32 Nikon wrote:
No, we need an exact definite decision against nukes. Instantly lynching the person that launched them is a good one at this point of the game, since it doesn't leave room for him to retaliate to counter-nukes, should he have more than one. I know that you don't want to get lynched and there are votes for you, but flaunting your arsenal in the manner that you are, isn't going to help you. Even if you launch nuke(s) we can shoot them down, don't worry.

On March 28 2010 23:01 Nikon wrote:
I don't want to get nuked by you crazy sobs.

On March 28 2010 23:19 Nikon wrote:
Let's abide by the lynch a nuker plan then, starting with Xelin.

Very consistent so far! I wonder what's coming next?

On March 30 2010 01:49 Nikon wrote:
Oh yeah, before I forget...

##Nuke: Zona



Dude. You asked me to post more, then told me not to post more. Que?

On March 30 2010 05:32 haster27 wrote:
This is my analysis on Nikon.

Actually, he did not seem to make any notable anti-town moves until he suddenly hurled a random nuke toward Zona like all non-concensus nuker does. I think he is being thought as more suspicious than others because most of the Town trust Zona as pro-town, perhaps even more so than L.

I have already pointed out nuking simply because of contradiction is flimsy reasoning. At least other people have some reason or grudge that made them launch nukes- to contrary, I feel that Nikon came out of nowhere when he started his criticism of Zona and soon followed it up with nuke. As in, contradiction can be scum-tell, but just that it is strange that single contradiction has given Nikon enough conviction about him being scum to launch the nuke.


What? Are you saying that I should've nuked Bill Murray instead? I mean, he insulted my country based on my forum activity, that's a good enough grudge.

On March 30 2010 05:32 haster27 wrote:"Let me spell it out for you. Five people are already dead, and it's only Day 1. All of them were town-affiliated. You can say that we're in a bit of a crisis right now."; This quote suggests that he is following the early town policy (extend the day as far as possible) while managing to sound hypocritical - because it is non-concensus nukers like him which pushed the town intio this position - at the same time. I don't know if I am overanalyzing this here, but this post could be attempt to paint himself as irrational Townie.


The responses so far have been pretty interesting.

On March 30 2010 05:32 haster27 wrote:One thing I like to note is that he is criticizing people for focusing on inactive players. After we find out his alignment we can use this to possibly detect how active the Mafia team actually is.


No, I'm criticising them for focusing on me. I'm just trying to get by this day, since, in day 1 we have very little information to go on, however nukes started flying left and right, and afterwards... well, you know what happened. Also, ascertaining mafia members activity based on my alignment is a bit far fetched.

On March 30 2010 05:32 haster27 wrote:Either way, I don't think I need to tell you that we need to lynch Mafia on day 2. This is critical since it will give us some groundwork, as we have no comment we with 100% certainty know had been spoken with anti-town intent.

I suggest lynching Xelin as lowest priority for now because he is just as likely to be third party as Mafia, and simply lynching anti-town role who do not know the identity of other Mafia isn't going to be that helpful at all.

For me, day 2 lynch should either be Nikon, Versatile, or one of the suspected inactives at very worst so we at least have idea what is general strategy of Mafia. I hope everyone else propose their lynch list so that when we finally go into day 2, we have concrete plan to follow instead of wandering aimlessly (followed by equally aimless nuke).

Also, like I said in the previous notes, we should stop using nukes for day 1 at least. We should not give any more opportunities for scum to fire a shot at us until Japan and Sweden is able to use anti-nukes again.


Let's wait till we have more information, shall we?
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
March 29 2010 21:19 GMT
#1427
On March 30 2010 05:04 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 03:11 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On March 25 2010 20:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On March 25 2010 19:03 Bill Murray wrote:
Irrelevant as soon as he launched that nuke.

I don't know. I feel that I probably would of done the same. Not sure if Abenson would of done the same too, as we haven't really talked of nuking policy but he seemed content about the threat of nuking as a deterrent to lynch...although I pretty much just guaranteed we don't get lynched but get mafia killed. Lol...Although I don't really know how useful it would be to kill us. Ain't like we are DT's...

On March 25 2010 21:17 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I don't understand why someone launches a nuke when we specifically say "DO NOT LAUNCH ANY NUKES IF YOU ARE PRO-TOWN."

What the hell RoL? There is a limit to how many nukes can be launched, and you arbitrarily decided to send one flying through the air? We have no info in this thread right now other than than the fact that you're acting like an idiot.


Those two were on the same page.

On March 26 2010 02:33 Amber[LighT] wrote:
oh thats right you chose not to read the thread.


Directed at RoL

On March 26 2010 04:39 Amber[LighT] wrote:
BTW once again for the records RoL is not a great player, Ace could tell you that but he's restraining... I know it

And you are? You missed a role claim...That was talked about nonstop for 10+ pages, AND I had just talked about and posted on a list. Did I mention you posted on a page it was talked about?

You attacked RoL so much....Yet you have no idea why he was being voted on then?

Right...Smart....

Anyone else notice this?



you're really pushing this against me aren't you....

It's funny that you think I'm trying to deceive the town even though I've been honest from the start. I've confided with you my role/ability for this game and yet you continue to push the issue that I didn't read _EVERY_ detail of this game.

You want me to post but we're just running around in circles. This has been the endless day and I'm sick of it. Though I thought the nuke on TH was justified I'm just done with sitting on Day 1. These trigger happy players are causing more chaos than the mafia ever could. I never reacted poorly to anything you had to say about me, and I've been trying to maintain diplomacy. You know I can nuke, and yet unlike half this town I'm choosing not to be a buzz-kill on the game and go after the first person I suspect with my weaponry.

What more do you want from me. You want to discuss the lack of clues we have? Or maybe we can discuss how I'm not reading everything in the thread, but when I post I get scrutinized, while other players sit idling in the corner and have barely said a word.

If mafia is smart I'll be dead in the morning, since you outed me so nicely... and I really appreciate that. I'll be more of a shield to make sure we can actually lynch some mafia, since nuking obviously has failed miserably.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 29 2010 21:20 GMT
#1428
Let's consider what motivations might drive Nikon to try to nuke me.

If we assume he's town-aligned, then perhaps he's afraid that my mention of him as being inactive might get him lynched. But there are so many alternatives and he isn't even close to being high on the town's radar. He was definitely less in the spotlight than he is NOW.

Alternatively, he truly believes that the one so-called contradiction he found in my numerous posts indicates that I'm surely scum. If that's what he truly believes, he's an idiot. As well, for whatever reason he hasn't bothered to analyze other posters for the same kind of "contradiction".

If we assume he's mafia-aligned, then things start to make more sense. A lot of other players have launched nukes and have not suffered any consequences. After all, at this rate the town isn't even going to kill our nuke-launchers for awhile - so mafia might feel that they can join in and nuke without being afraid of immediately killed in response.

I like to think that I'm driving discussion to some degree, so maybe the mafia wants to get rid of me. Perhaps in one of my posts I've made them nervous by calling some of them out (I wouldn't know which ones.) So this might be the true reason why he wanted to nuke me. He thinks it's better for his team for me to be dead, and he doesn't fear the town calling out nukers, since we haven't really dealt with the ones that have nuked so far. As well, look at how out of the ones who have nuked, he wants Xelin dealt with first.

Conclusion: Nikon is an idiot, or scum. Since I like to believe the best of people and posters on TeamLiquid generally display some level of intelligence, let's assume Nikon isn't an idiot. Thus, he's scum.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 29 2010 21:24 GMT
#1429
On March 30 2010 06:20 Zona wrote:
Conclusion: Nikon is an idiot, or scum. Since I like to believe the best of people and posters on TeamLiquid generally display some level of intelligence, let's assume Nikon isn't an idiot. Thus, he's scum.


Hmm... :O
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
March 29 2010 21:26 GMT
#1430
On March 30 2010 02:05 Versatile wrote:
anti-nuke it opz.

nikon just confirmed himself as mafia.

idiot.


yes

On March 30 2010 04:09 JeeJee wrote:

iaaan
-against lynching L
-for rol's nuke hitting
-wants johnny and L to die, and lynch tree.hugger
-has a big logic flaw where if L is green, tree.hugger has to die
-supports shooting down anonymous nuke
-suspects both BM and L
-"i want all nukes in the air to fall because none of the players are confirmed townies" another logic flaw
-also wants verse to die



That does look pretty bad, I've wanted to kill 5 now confirmed townies.

But I figure I'll post what I think anyway!

Mafia:
meeple (and tree.hugger linked him to d3, if one of them is mafia the other is more likely to be)
amber
nikon
fishball
maybe infundibulum, caller and nemy, and d3

town:
me obviously (:
opz
abenson
zona
haster
verse
probably LMNOP and Jeejee


Most people have posted arguments against these people already so I wont do too much, but the one game I was mafia in (Caller's game, so similar situation with nukes, except faster), it was easy to not really read the thread, but come in occasionally and agree with ideas that sound good, but that I knew wouldn't mess my team up. Not being really inactive, but staying out of intense arguments and not really commiting myself to eitehr side of an argument. So thus, my main suspect is meeple. I think that nikon was really stupid to nuke zona whatever team he is on, IMO zona is obviously town.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
March 29 2010 21:27 GMT
#1431
On March 30 2010 06:11 Zona wrote:
Read this version of my post - I made a mistake in the previous one with a paragraph I was writing for my next post.

Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 06:10 Zona wrote:
I have no nukes, and I do not have any anti-nukes.

My question is: Why have you, Nikon, gone after me with your "analysis" and have not "analyzed" any other player in the game in the same way? Let's take a closer look.


He has only provided one single reason to justify his actions, even when repeatedly questioned:
On March 29 2010 20:23 Nikon wrote:
On March 28 2010 23:12 Zona wrote:
Post your plans, comments on plans, who you're suspicious of, what actions seem anti-town, etc. Plus posting isn't just to add to the discussion, but to allow the town to get a read on YOU. If you don't give us anything to work with, lurker scum can use you as someone to hide among. If you're town, that is.


And then there's

On March 29 2010 00:06 Zona wrote:
We have 3 nuke-initiators. If we get no further information I'm comfortable lynching any among them. But we haven't even hit the first night yet, why don't we at least wait to see what information surfaces before we talk about an event that's far in the future?


You're directly disagreeing with yourself. Based on this and how you've omitted various pieces of information in your nice big posts, I'd say that you're red.

This is the sole reason he has provided to justify his nuke on me.

First, I've already explained why it is not a contradiction. But to quickly re-iterate: I suggest posting more plans and suspicions, but not solidly deciding on who to lynch until the next day.

However, let's for some reason suppose you don't buy my explanation and consider it a real contradiction. Now comes the question. Is this single contradiction enough to declare that surely I'm "red"? Furthermore, this "contradiction" that I posted - does it promote actions that really harm the town in the long run?

Finally, notice is that Nikon has not gone after anyone else in the thread in the same manner. Nikon has shown no interest in finding contradictions in anyone else's play. Nikon is exclusively going after me, for a single flimsy reason.

What's going on? He's not pointing me out in a general attempt to help the town, but in an attempt to justify his nuke on me. I honestly don't think I was even that threatening to him, given that my post on him was among posts on many players, but his response is to first make his one flimsy argument on me then nuke.


Summary: Nikon tries to paint me as scummy by pointing at a single "contradiction". He repeats himself several times with no new evidence, then goes off and launches a nuke. He has shown no sign of examining anyone else in the same manner. The conclusion to be reached is that all he wanted to do is to nuke me, and his posts are there to try to justify the nuke.



Don't you get it? All those lists of people ultimately serve nothing. Let me show you:


On March 29 2010 10:42 Versatile wrote:
i agree with waiting out the rest of the day and night. as i stated before, if we launch any nukes at mafia, i think they will just shoot them down. lynching is the only surefire way of getting a red out of the game.

i'll say it one more time: i am not going to fire again without town consent. i have no reason to at this point.

also, there have been plenty of people who the town has suspected. to decide how to lynch them, i say we rank them in order of most suspect. here is my list, make your own if you don't agree with it.

1. caller: was anonymously saved and has posted very little. little to no posting is a mafia tell for him.
2. iaaan: scummy posting style pointed out by several players.
3. tree.hugger/versatile/xelin: for non-consensus nuking.

suspicious: LMNOP for attacking opz and abenson after mason claim. the one thing i'd like to point out here is that L also advocated for killing one to prove the other if i am remembering correctly, and he was a towny. and i believe one other person did the same as well.

then there is zona's inactive list, L's vote list, and the list i posted.

L's vote list (as of page 21):
tree.hugger
Versatile
Abenson
Fishball
RebirthofLegend
~Opz~
d3_crescentia

zona's latest inactive list:
iNfuNdiBuLuM: 31
JeeJee: 30
Iaaan: 29
meeple: 28
Fishball: 26
Amber[LighT]: 26
Nikon: 18
d3_crescentia: 14
nemY: 13
Abenson: 12
Caller: 12
Phrujbaz: 2

Versatile's suspect list:
iaaan
caller
amberlight
nemy
d3_crescentia
xelin
nikon
fishball


i'd just like to point out that fishball and d3_crescentia are on all three of those lists. just something to note. not putting FoS on them, but the fact that they're on 3 different lists, all of which were formed with different criteria speaks to the need for both to give more to the town and a necessary increase in pro-town behavior. abenson, nikon, iaaan, amberlight, nemy and caller are on two of those lists each. abenson voted for L to save himself and told us he was going to be inactive so i believe it's safe to cross him off. nemy has been kind of inactive in both this game and zona's game, so that's something to take into consideration.

i also think it may be interesting to see how zona's inactive lists have changed over the course of the game. not saying we will definitely get something useful out of them, but we should be looking for patterns.

i welcome thoughts and opinions on this post.


Why do I show up on the suspect list? Various people have already said that I hadn't made any noticeable anti-town moves, and yet I'm a suspect - granted I was inactiveish, but I can't help it - what's done is done. Don't you find interesting that Versatile has been the most vocal against my nuke, resorting to insults multiple times, and saying that I confirmed myself as a mafia:

On March 30 2010 02:05 Versatile wrote:
anti-nuke it opz.

nikon just confirmed himself as mafia.

idiot.


And then on the next page suggesting that a confirmed mafia can get off being lynched:

On March 30 2010 02:31 Versatile wrote:
smh. that's your explanation? that's trash. nikon, you're #1 suspect right now. i suggest you do better or you're being lynched tmw.


Here's your scum.

The nuke is a fake. Rest easy.
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
March 29 2010 21:28 GMT
#1432
and I think someone should anti nuke the nuke going to zona.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
March 29 2010 21:29 GMT
#1433
On March 30 2010 02:11 Versatile wrote:
nikon, you can't slip in under the cover of people nuking when you just so happen do it minutes before the town is finally going to night.

obviously, the majority of the town is for moving onto night. and you just so happen to extend it? creating more chaos? gtfo.

opz, do it before one of his buddies extends it with another one of their nukes.


One more relevant quote, consider it an edit to the previous post.
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
March 29 2010 21:31 GMT
#1434
On March 30 2010 06:27 Nikon wrote:


The nuke is a fake. Rest easy.


Are you FUCKING serious?

No, we cannot rest easy. You can claim the nuke is a fake and that's fine, but the fact is none of us know and you have instilled yet another dilemma into the proceedings of the town. Zona is one of our most pro town members, and you have gone and launched a nuke at him and may have already drawn out an anti nuke. If the anti nuke hasn't been fired then there is surely debate about whether or not to do it. If you are town then this is one of the DUMBEST things you could have possibly done. if you are mafia, good job i guess, but you're getting lynched tomorrow.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 29 2010 21:31 GMT
#1435
On March 30 2010 06:27 Nikon wrote:
The nuke is a fake. Rest easy.


wait, what?
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 29 2010 21:32 GMT
#1436
On March 30 2010 06:31 haster27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 06:27 Nikon wrote:
The nuke is a fake. Rest easy.


wait, what?


wtf?
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
March 29 2010 21:34 GMT
#1437
On March 30 2010 06:31 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 06:27 Nikon wrote:


The nuke is a fake. Rest easy.


Are you FUCKING serious?

No, we cannot rest easy. You can claim the nuke is a fake and that's fine, but the fact is none of us know and you have instilled yet another dilemma into the proceedings of the town. Zona is one of our most pro town members, and you have gone and launched a nuke at him and may have already drawn out an anti nuke. If the anti nuke hasn't been fired then there is surely debate about whether or not to do it. If you are town then this is one of the DUMBEST things you could have possibly done. if you are mafia, good job i guess, but you're getting lynched tomorrow.


Nah, everything is under control.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 29 2010 21:35 GMT
#1438
On March 30 2010 06:34 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 06:31 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On March 30 2010 06:27 Nikon wrote:


The nuke is a fake. Rest easy.


Are you FUCKING serious?

No, we cannot rest easy. You can claim the nuke is a fake and that's fine, but the fact is none of us know and you have instilled yet another dilemma into the proceedings of the town. Zona is one of our most pro town members, and you have gone and launched a nuke at him and may have already drawn out an anti nuke. If the anti nuke hasn't been fired then there is surely debate about whether or not to do it. If you are town then this is one of the DUMBEST things you could have possibly done. if you are mafia, good job i guess, but you're getting lynched tomorrow.


Nah, everything is under control.


So, is it fake or not?
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
March 29 2010 21:36 GMT
#1439
On March 30 2010 06:34 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 06:31 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On March 30 2010 06:27 Nikon wrote:


The nuke is a fake. Rest easy.


Are you FUCKING serious?

No, we cannot rest easy. You can claim the nuke is a fake and that's fine, but the fact is none of us know and you have instilled yet another dilemma into the proceedings of the town. Zona is one of our most pro town members, and you have gone and launched a nuke at him and may have already drawn out an anti nuke. If the anti nuke hasn't been fired then there is surely debate about whether or not to do it. If you are town then this is one of the DUMBEST things you could have possibly done. if you are mafia, good job i guess, but you're getting lynched tomorrow.


Nah, everything is under control.


I just want to know: what could you have possibly been thinking that made you decide this was a good idea? Please. Allow me a glimpse into the netherworld of your brain.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
March 29 2010 21:37 GMT
#1440
On March 30 2010 06:35 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 06:34 Nikon wrote:
On March 30 2010 06:31 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On March 30 2010 06:27 Nikon wrote:


The nuke is a fake. Rest easy.


Are you FUCKING serious?

No, we cannot rest easy. You can claim the nuke is a fake and that's fine, but the fact is none of us know and you have instilled yet another dilemma into the proceedings of the town. Zona is one of our most pro town members, and you have gone and launched a nuke at him and may have already drawn out an anti nuke. If the anti nuke hasn't been fired then there is surely debate about whether or not to do it. If you are town then this is one of the DUMBEST things you could have possibly done. if you are mafia, good job i guess, but you're getting lynched tomorrow.


Nah, everything is under control.


So, is it fake or not?


Yeah, it's fake.
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