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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 27 2010 21:24 GMT
#1101
Grrrr, I'm almost certain this is not an intelligent thing to say but I'm irritated. I'm North Korea, I am pro-town and I shot the nuke, I had one nuke that I could fire anomynously and chose Elemenope because I'm fairly sure he's mafia. Other suspects I had in mind were Caller and Bill but they were more suspicions and I was more sure of LMNOP.

Now start the moaning about how bad I am and what a stupid thing it was to do, but I have a question, who shot it down and why?
Adonai bless
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 27 2010 21:30 GMT
#1102
For some reason, I can't post? What the shit is this.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 27 2010 21:30 GMT
#1103
Lol i had a power outage. Sup brosefs. Business:

1) Versatile. You're a cool cat, but put everything you want to say in 1 post, and then stop talking. That way we know precisely what you wanted to tell the town if you flip green.

That said, if you do indeed flip green, It'll be be a pretty solid indication that you're now officially shittier than amber and vivi. Way to go completely fucking the other game up too. gj. Couldn't settle for one complete flame out, could you?

2) Who to kill if I do indeed die? First off clear the list of people who tried to vote me starting based on the players who have the weakest excuses first, then move to meeple and Iaaan.

3) ~Opz~, if you still want me to launch fake nukes feel free to ask.

4) tree.hugger still needs to die before he has the chance at throwing out another nuke at anyone.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 27 2010 21:36 GMT
#1104
On March 28 2010 06:30 L wrote:
Lol i had a power outage. Sup brosefs. Business:

1) Versatile. You're a cool cat, but put everything you want to say in 1 post, and then stop talking. That way we know precisely what you wanted to tell the town if you flip green.

That said, if you do indeed flip green, It'll be be a pretty solid indication that you're now officially shittier than amber and vivi. Way to go completely fucking the other game up too. gj. Couldn't settle for one complete flame out, could you?

2) Who to kill if I do indeed die? First off clear the list of people who tried to vote me starting based on the players who have the weakest excuses first, then move to meeple and Iaaan.

3) ~Opz~, if you still want me to launch fake nukes feel free to ask.

4) tree.hugger still needs to die before he has the chance at throwing out another nuke at anyone.


ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. you get so mad. lmao. this shit is great. rage harder, my dude.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
March 27 2010 21:46 GMT
#1105
On March 28 2010 06:30 L wrote:
4) tree.hugger still needs to die before he has the chance at throwing out another nuke at anyone.


Dude, are you blind?

How many times do I need to say that I won't be firing another nuke out in the foreseeable future? Do you have trust issues? Did you take it hard when you learned the tooth fairy was a lie or something?

I'm not going to nuke.
I'm not going to nuke.
I'm not going to nuke.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
March 27 2010 21:56 GMT
#1106
I've compiled the script of this hilarious piece of kabuki theater. Beginning with:

On March 27 2010 10:28 Elemenope wrote:
I'm going to go with my instinct and say XeliN launched the nuke in which case I ask: why?
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 27 2010 10:33 haster27 wrote:
Why suddenly Xelin out of all people?

On March 27 2010 10:52 Elemenope wrote:
ctrl+f'd his posts, saw he generally started posting during the day at around 3-4KST in this thread, he stated he was suspicious of me with no real reasoning, and he has been very inactive due to recent turn of events. My guess it's another one of those "I'm curious" ala tree.hugger.

The guy's only reasonable contribution is the suggestion of insta-lynch for someone who nukes unsupported. He then goes into an argument with fishball over a hypothetical situation or wifom or something. He puts a vote on Abenson, citing that inactivity is something that can't be allowed.

He then abstains his vote, and later puts it on me, reasoning - because I advocated lynching Abenson to see if OpZ was in fact telling the truth or not. I later stated this was because at the time, all we had was OpZ's word on the matter, Abenson hadn't confirmed. Abenson later comes in, votes, goes off, then comes back later confirming. As such, I stated that I'm perfectly fine with the claim that OpZ and Abenson are in fact Masons and I have cleared them of suspicion for now. Keep in mind that he himself suspected OpZ for being scum based on language OpZ used, and then retracted his suspicion when OpZ made the roleclaim. I made similar retractions, only after the other party (which is pretty fucking important in making a Mason claim), responded as such.

He votes RoL, then later removes his vote, even though he was the one who advocated lynching of people who fire nukes. Really? He hasn't contributed anything of late since these more recent nukes which makes me highly suspicious of him.

Basically, my instinct is that -
a) he has proposed two ideas, one being that we autovote lynch unsupported nukes, the other being that inactivity should be punished
b) he has accused me
c) he starts posting at around 3-4KST and continues afterwards into the evening
and d) he abstained the vote on the unsupported launch of RoL, and is currently contributing nothing to town discussion; two things in direct opposite of what his main points were earlier

leads me to believe that he launched this nuke, especially given that the person who launched this is anonymous and can't be held accountable for it.

Either way - FoS on XeliN, whether he launched this nuke or not.

On March 27 2010 10:55 XeliN wrote:
What does FoS mean? and no, I did not launch this nuke on you, I personally would be happy to see it hit though.

On March 27 2010 11:07 Elemenope wrote:
Finger of Suspicion. Perhaps you'd like to explain your actions then about


***

On March 27 2010 12:24 XeliN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2010 12:10 L wrote:
On March 27 2010 12:06 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On March 27 2010 12:04 L wrote:
On March 27 2010 12:00 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
The way I see it LMNOP is so obviously pro town that the NK nukes are 99% sure to come from mafia.

Given how Ace loves retarded roles, its entirely possible that NK has no affiliation. Either way, LMNOP was railing decently hard against XeliN which means XeliN is probably being set up.


This is true. I should have said 99% not town. It's possible it's a trick to get us to go after XeLiN, though i haven't seen him be particularly helpful anyway. regardless, i'm pretty sure we have to lynch tree hugger tomorrow?

We should kill him before he can nuke again. If he is indeed mafia, there would be nothing stopping him from attempting to rub another out. Worst case; he absorbs anti-nukes.

I'm not entirely certain that he's mafia given how ballsy his move was, but the only thing I'm sure of is that we shouldn't be pussies about counter-nuking people who don't agree with our anti-nuke position. If we aren't firm on that point, we simply can't dissuade nukes.


"Excuse me" was in reference mainly to this, should have quoted.

On March 27 2010 12:26 L wrote:
Uh, I'm talking about tree.hugger.

You know, like I've been doing the entire time.

Bit too defensive there, cowboy. Calm it down.

On March 27 2010 12:27 haster27 wrote:
I think L was referring to tree.hugger, or am I missing something.

On March 27 2010 12:29 XeliN wrote:
Oh I see, skimmed the quotes before yours and saw me mentioned like 3 times so figured you were jumping on Elemenopes suspicions.

On March 27 2010 12:31 Elemenope wrote:
Since you're around here, perhaps you'd like to explain?
Show nested quote +
The guy's only reasonable contribution is the suggestion of insta-lynch for someone who nukes unsupported. He then goes into an argument with fishball over a hypothetical situation or wifom or something. He puts a vote on Abenson, citing that inactivity is something that can't be allowed.

He then abstains his vote, and later puts it on me, reasoning - because I advocated lynching Abenson to see if OpZ was in fact telling the truth or not. I later stated this was because at the time, all we had was OpZ's word on the matter, Abenson hadn't confirmed. Abenson later comes in, votes, goes off, then comes back later confirming. As such, I stated that I'm perfectly fine with the claim that OpZ and Abenson are in fact Masons and I have cleared them of suspicion for now. Keep in mind that he himself suspected OpZ for being scum based on language OpZ used, and then retracted his suspicion when OpZ made the roleclaim. I made similar retractions, only after the other party (which is pretty fucking important in making a Mason claim), responded as such.

He votes RoL, then later removes his vote, even though he was the one who advocated lynching of people who fire nukes. Really? He hasn't contributed anything of late since these more recent nukes which makes me highly suspicious of him.


I'd at least like a basis of reasoning behind your actions, nothing more.

On March 27 2010 12:41 XeliN wrote:
What exactly are you asking me? you've listed my actions as well as my reasons why in your own post. Just to humour you i'll try to explain my thought process whilst I was making them.

Voted OpZ initially, I had gone through the thread and had decided to vote for the person I considered most suspicious on a one time readthrough just to get things going, thought his post seemed suspicious and placed on him. Change my vote to Abenson after someone (I think it was you) highlighted that he had made 1 post total and that it included a lynch vote, this seemed both mafiaesque and unacceptable so switched my vote to him.

I then decided to change my vote and place it on you, you argued quite strongly for lynching one of either OpZ and Abenson and it seemed to me plainly obvious that they were telling the truth. As you don't seem like a dumb person I thought it odd that you would argue for their lynch and claim "they haven't been proven" (My reasoning was yes they hadn't been proven yet it was far far far more likely they were telling the truth)

Then I vote for RoL because of his inactivity and not because of his Nuking, I later remove the vote as it seems clear that RoL is not mafia as not one person in the thread had attempted to defend him or try to get a lynch on someone else going. If he was mafia they would have had to defend him so didn't want to waste it voting for someone who seemed obviously townie.

And ending with this piece of comedy gold.
On March 28 2010 06:24 XeliN wrote:
Grrrr, I'm almost certain this is not an intelligent thing to say but I'm irritated. I'm North Korea, I am pro-town and I shot the nuke, I had one nuke that I could fire anomynously and chose Elemenope because I'm fairly sure he's mafia. Other suspects I had in mind were Caller and Bill but they were more suspicions and I was more sure of LMNOP.

Now start the moaning about how bad I am and what a stupid thing it was to do, but I have a question, who shot it down and why?


XeliN, that nuke actually topped the cake for making less sense any other before.

My nuke on L is looking like the model of restraint.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 27 2010 22:01 GMT
#1107
hahaha, meh guess I'll find out later on just how fail or potentially visionary it was
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-27 22:06:24
March 27 2010 22:05 GMT
#1108
On March 28 2010 06:46 tree.hugger wrote:
the tooth fairy was a lie


Fuck You
Adonai bless
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
March 27 2010 22:12 GMT
#1109
On March 28 2010 06:24 XeliN wrote:
Grrrr, I'm almost certain this is not an intelligent thing to say but I'm irritated. I'm North Korea, I am pro-town and I shot the nuke, I had one nuke that I could fire anomynously and chose Elemenope because I'm fairly sure he's mafia. Other suspects I had in mind were Caller and Bill but they were more suspicions and I was more sure of LMNOP.

Now start the moaning about how bad I am and what a stupid thing it was to do, but I have a question, who shot it down and why?


i would think an anonymous nuke would have been better used on someone that the town had talked about being scummy, that way it at least has a chance of landing and not being shot down. Shooting it off randomly like that was... interesting, but I suppose I don't blame you.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 27 2010 22:22 GMT
#1110
I wanted it to go through and figured there was enough random nukes from other people going about that it had a good chance of landing. Still very interested as to who shot it down and why.
Adonai bless
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 27 2010 22:26 GMT
#1111
well, i didn't shoot it down, and i can't shoot the one down coming at me as i've already used my only anti-nuke to save L.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 27 2010 22:28 GMT
#1112
On March 28 2010 05:35 Versatile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 05:32 Bill Murray wrote:
On March 28 2010 05:22 Versatile wrote:
On March 28 2010 05:03 JeeJee wrote:
On March 28 2010 04:28 Elemenope wrote:

I do think that L's pro-town and these nukes toward him are out of spite rather than for scum tells; I'd like to see L saved, but that's really up to the town and if they feel we need to save antis or not.


i disagree. if you notice, the chaos right now (as i have posted right before ace's huge picture post) is caused by people who initially voted for L to get lynched on day 1 for no adequate reason (and no, as i have outlined many many times in this thread, him being banned for two real-time days, not game-days, is NOT an adequate reason). L is usually a big asset to whichever side he's on, it's just that idiots take some of his comments to heart and think he's attacking them instead of their logic. which he sometimes is, but hey, he's right more often than not. have to take the good with the bad.

obviously i would love both bm and L saved, as they have both been acting pro-town so far, and i am fairly confident in stating that verse is probably mafia. plus, the other people on that list (treehugger, fishball and d3) haven't been that helpful either. there is quite likely to be another mafia among that list. so saying that the nukes are being launched out of spite by townies as opposed to mafia wanting to wreak havoc on the town and kill pro-town players is stupid, imo.


to the bolded: are you high on drugs? L is a fcukin' cancer to the town. he makes very little sense and for some reason i cannot comprehend, you seem to think he's good @ this game. smh. many players keep saying "people are voting for L because they don't like his behavior or the way he communicates". well, clearly that doesn't apply to me, as i am an asshole to pretty much everyone. so i don't care if he's nice. hell, sometimes he's funny. i just think he's a moron most of the time.

if you can't understand, whatever. we'll have to agree to disagree, i don't think either one of us are going to change our minds.



No, you are the obvious cancer to the town. You, tree.hugger, and whoever else are trying to get rid of people who are obvtown.

The fact that the rest of the thread haven't cracked down on you shows me that they either have no nukes, have no balls, or haven't read the thread.


when are you going to get L's dick out of your mouth? you're pathetic. get away from me. please. seriously. stop posting towards me.


how about you attack my arguments instead of attacking me?

oh wait, too late in two senses.
moron.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
March 27 2010 22:51 GMT
#1113
That was a really stupid nuke, and a really really stupid claim, Xelin.
and @ verse, I want you to die as well as L, no not completely on your side ^.^
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
March 27 2010 22:53 GMT
#1114
On March 28 2010 04:28 Elemenope wrote:
If he said Yes, then he didn't change rules at all if you phrased it as you said in your post at the bottom of page 54.

I'm glad the missile towards me was shot down, but what the fuck at these other missiles. Admittedly, both of these are rather expected given the L was saved situation.
I do think that L's pro-town and these nukes toward him are out of spite rather than for scum tells; I'd like to see L saved, but that's really up to the town and if they feel we need to save antis or not.
Keep this in mind: NK may shoot another nuke tomorrow; he has anonymous nuking powers and has been shown to be clearly antitown since nobody has come up to state "hey, I'm NK, this is why I shot at Elemenope".

As for the Amber-d3 inactivity: there's a lot of people who I haven't seen actually post real content about these last missiles, namely:
d3 - posted just a few lines
xelin - posted explaining his reasoning behind his day one pre-lynch actions
Amber - hasn't posted nearly anything about these nukes
Caller - hasn't posted anything at all I believe since RoL's missile was shot down
Zona - This is a big surprise in my opinion. He hasn't posted at all since March 27 2010 05:57. 3 missiles has been shot since then, where are you Zona?
Fishball - Posted somewhat early on, but recent posts have been lacking in terms of content other than showing how L is hypocritical/a douche/whatever
Nikon - Last main post was during the 'should Japan come out and claim'
nemY - Hasn't posted anything worth of content since his vote to lynch RoL.

We have had what, 6 missiles shot by now? It shouldn't be that difficult to have something to talk about. Even if it's a "hey, I don't agree with this missile getting shot down" or whatever or "OMG THERE'S AN NK WITH ANONYMOUS NUKES".


I'm just speechless... everything went to hell, no idea how to respond to it really. You could say I'm trying to dodge the nuke-a-roo action.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 27 2010 22:55 GMT
#1115
On March 28 2010 06:46 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 06:30 L wrote:
4) tree.hugger still needs to die before he has the chance at throwing out another nuke at anyone.


Dude, are you blind?

How many times do I need to say that I won't be firing another nuke out in the foreseeable future? Do you have trust issues? Did you take it hard when you learned the tooth fairy was a lie or something?

I'm not going to nuke.
I'm not going to nuke.
I'm not going to nuke.

You're the epitome of nuke restraint, right?
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
March 27 2010 22:55 GMT
#1116
and I would be fine saving BM, then lynching him or tree.hugger based on L's color, if L is green then BM is green, because why would a red save a green? and if L is red then tree.hugger is green because why would mafia nuke mafia?
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
March 27 2010 22:56 GMT
#1117
On March 28 2010 07:12 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 06:24 XeliN wrote:
Grrrr, I'm almost certain this is not an intelligent thing to say but I'm irritated. I'm North Korea, I am pro-town and I shot the nuke, I had one nuke that I could fire anomynously and chose Elemenope because I'm fairly sure he's mafia. Other suspects I had in mind were Caller and Bill but they were more suspicions and I was more sure of LMNOP.

Now start the moaning about how bad I am and what a stupid thing it was to do, but I have a question, who shot it down and why?


i would think an anonymous nuke would have been better used on someone that the town had talked about being scummy, that way it at least has a chance of landing and not being shot down. Shooting it off randomly like that was... interesting, but I suppose I don't blame you.


I think you're being way too charitable (suspiciously charitable?) to a nuke fired anonymously at someone who really hadn't incurred any suspicion at all, and was actually being fairly helpful.

XeliN you can be helpful by explaining why you were seriously sure LMNOP was mafia.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
March 27 2010 23:17 GMT
#1118
On March 28 2010 07:56 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 07:12 meeple wrote:
On March 28 2010 06:24 XeliN wrote:
Grrrr, I'm almost certain this is not an intelligent thing to say but I'm irritated. I'm North Korea, I am pro-town and I shot the nuke, I had one nuke that I could fire anomynously and chose Elemenope because I'm fairly sure he's mafia. Other suspects I had in mind were Caller and Bill but they were more suspicions and I was more sure of LMNOP.

Now start the moaning about how bad I am and what a stupid thing it was to do, but I have a question, who shot it down and why?


i would think an anonymous nuke would have been better used on someone that the town had talked about being scummy, that way it at least has a chance of landing and not being shot down. Shooting it off randomly like that was... interesting, but I suppose I don't blame you.


I think you're being way too charitable (suspiciously charitable?) to a nuke fired anonymously at someone who really hadn't incurred any suspicion at all, and was actually being fairly helpful.

XeliN you can be helpful by explaining why you were seriously sure LMNOP was mafia.


Heh... alright perhaps I was too nice about it... I'm glad lmnop was saved and the nuke was pretty stupid and I really don't know why Xelin claimed it, since everyone was just assuming that mafia sent it and it got shot down by a townie who wanted to protect his identity.
I would actually urge whoever shot it down to remain hidden... townies with anti-nukes play a big role in this game so the less of you that the mafia know the better.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 28 2010 00:10 GMT
#1119
On March 28 2010 04:28 Elemenope wrote:
If he said Yes, then he didn't change rules at all if you phrased it as you said in your post at the bottom of page 54.

I'm glad the missile towards me was shot down, but what the fuck at these other missiles. Admittedly, both of these are rather expected given the L was saved situation.
I do think that L's pro-town and these nukes toward him are out of spite rather than for scum tells; I'd like to see L saved, but that's really up to the town and if they feel we need to save antis or not.
Keep this in mind: NK may shoot another nuke tomorrow; he has anonymous nuking powers and has been shown to be clearly antitown since nobody has come up to state "hey, I'm NK, this is why I shot at Elemenope".

As for the Amber-d3 inactivity: there's a lot of people who I haven't seen actually post real content about these last missiles, namely:
d3 - posted just a few lines
xelin - posted explaining his reasoning behind his day one pre-lynch actions
Amber - hasn't posted nearly anything about these nukes
Caller - hasn't posted anything at all I believe since RoL's missile was shot down
Zona - This is a big surprise in my opinion. He hasn't posted at all since March 27 2010 05:57. 3 missiles has been shot since then, where are you Zona?
Fishball - Posted somewhat early on, but recent posts have been lacking in terms of content other than showing how L is hypocritical/a douche/whatever
Nikon - Last main post was during the 'should Japan come out and claim'
nemY - Hasn't posted anything worth of content since his vote to lynch RoL.

We have had what, 6 missiles shot by now? It shouldn't be that difficult to have something to talk about. Even if it's a "hey, I don't agree with this missile getting shot down" or whatever or "OMG THERE'S AN NK WITH ANONYMOUS NUKES".

I followed this thread fairly closely up until shortly after RoL nuked Caller. Everything after that point has just been a pissing contest between L and friends (as ANY game with him usually devolves into) - and quite frankly I don't really care about what happens between them so long as we have a clear end result. None of this pansy "oh should we save them" anti-nuking stuff, because as Zona so put it quite a few pages ago, anti-nukes are FAR more valuable in the end game than the early game. I'm actually sort of surprised at tree.hugger launching a nuke at L, because it seems a bit out of character for him, but right now it's hard to say what's what when we just need more people to die to have some valid information.

There are also other such things my personal life that make mafia a second priority to me, but as Foolishness would say, NO ONE CARES!

That being said, I am rather surprised Zona hasn't been posting more, and that Xelin actually CLAIMED to be NK. A lot of the people on your list have been acting fairly characteristically of themselves (Fishball, nemY) but I don't have much experience with the rest of them to be able to tell.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 28 2010 00:12 GMT
#1120
On March 28 2010 07:55 Iaaan wrote:
and I would be fine saving BM, then lynching him or tree.hugger based on L's color, if L is green then BM is green, because why would a red save a green? and if L is red then tree.hugger is green because why would mafia nuke mafia?


very good plan. i am green, though, so i'll tell you and you can save us some time

how about you anti-nuke me then we can lynch tree.hugger for starting all of this shit.
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