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Yeah last time I checked, rules were meant to be worked around and broken. What the fuck? Do you think you are showtime? Stop being an asshole and just communicate in the thread. Its not a rule being broken. There's no PMs. Everything is done in the open. The difference is that some people will take different information out of the post than others; Heads up, that happens in every game.
L I think the town shouldn't save Caller of their own will because the act of agreeing to do that could save a mafia, or a townie. I think they town shouldn't save Caller because saving him would save someone?
Well no shit, sherlock.
A better argument might be "because I honestly think he's mafia", but you seem to have avoided that for some reason.
Anyways, RoL just said he has no more nukes. If he lies, he's mafia. That pretty much green lights my plan. I'd rather not try to change the vote target and have people fail because we don't have enough people, so I'm going to go ahead and ask people:
If you're cool to engage with the nuke RoL and lynch tree.hugger plan, say so in the thread. Lurking people work against us here.
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On March 26 2010 07:28 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2010 06:02 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Yeah i guess the whole problem with this RoL thing is that somehow people got convinced to vote for him for being inactive, so he goes ahead and nukes someone - really, we should have seen this coming. There are probably only a few players in this game who wouldn't fire off the last minute death nuke on whoever they find suspicious. This then puts us in a tough spot because now we're forced to lynch him by protocol even though he is no longer inactive. Tough shit i guess.
Depending on how the night kill turns out, I suggest looking at d3_crescentia and tree.hugger and maybe Xelin. It should also be somewhat clear about a few persons' alignment besides Opz and Aben.
Also, i don't think we should read too hard into the people defending or supporting the lynch of RoL when he flips. It's easy to incriminate someone who fucked up and both town and mafia alike will have called him out on it. What the fuck? Do you guys not understand I was inactive for like 24 hours and got fucking mobbed for it? Yeah I became fucking active, because my schedule fucking allowed it. Its very similar to how tomorrow I wouldn't post for around 12 hours because I have school from 10-1 then work from 3-10. Yet you are surprised that on my day off from school/work that I am suddenly "active"? This has to be some elaborate joke to annoy me.
I think you have misinterpreted my post. I was expressing my surprise that the town had somehow formed a lynch wagon on you for the sole reason of inactivity, esp. in light of the other inactives around. I personally would not have voted for you, but you decided to nuke Caller. The point of my first paragraph is that originally you were going to be lynched for being inactive (a bad reason, given that there were better lynch targets for today), but when you became active again - a chance to redeem yourself and show interest - you decided to nuke Caller, thus forcing the town to kill you anyway in a grim irony. It is thus 'tough shit' for the town.
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On March 26 2010 07:44 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2010 07:28 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On March 26 2010 06:02 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Yeah i guess the whole problem with this RoL thing is that somehow people got convinced to vote for him for being inactive, so he goes ahead and nukes someone - really, we should have seen this coming. There are probably only a few players in this game who wouldn't fire off the last minute death nuke on whoever they find suspicious. This then puts us in a tough spot because now we're forced to lynch him by protocol even though he is no longer inactive. Tough shit i guess.
Depending on how the night kill turns out, I suggest looking at d3_crescentia and tree.hugger and maybe Xelin. It should also be somewhat clear about a few persons' alignment besides Opz and Aben.
Also, i don't think we should read too hard into the people defending or supporting the lynch of RoL when he flips. It's easy to incriminate someone who fucked up and both town and mafia alike will have called him out on it. What the fuck? Do you guys not understand I was inactive for like 24 hours and got fucking mobbed for it? Yeah I became fucking active, because my schedule fucking allowed it. Its very similar to how tomorrow I wouldn't post for around 12 hours because I have school from 10-1 then work from 3-10. Yet you are surprised that on my day off from school/work that I am suddenly "active"? This has to be some elaborate joke to annoy me. I think you have misinterpreted my post. I was expressing my surprise that the town had somehow formed a lynch wagon on you for the sole reason of inactivity, esp. in light of the other inactives around. I personally would not have voted for you, but you decided to nuke Caller. The point of my first paragraph is that originally you were going to be lynched for being inactive (a bad reason, given that there were better lynch targets for today), but when you became active again - a chance to redeem yourself and show interest - you decided to nuke Caller, thus forcing the town to kill you anyway in a grim irony. It is thus 'tough shit' for the town.
His nuking of Caller is the only reason we have time to talk about this.
L, I thought of a potentially deadly downside to your plan. You being mafia, 2 possible town kills become 3. There is no guarantee that anyone listed is mafia. While, you did catch tree.hugger lurking, and the plan does sound pretty rational, the missing information is very much a problem. I would be willing to risk it though and change my vote to tree.hugger.
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Oh...and what is your take on a super speedy lynch of tree.hugger, given a proper amount of people iNf?
L's logic for not nuking tree.hugger is pretty reasonable.
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And that isn't even mentioning the fact that tree.hugger is failing to make a decent defense of himself. Also, BM isn't being sir spamalot this game as he was in previous games. Some of his posts are short, but he's actually being useful. Prodding meeple. Pointing out some inconsistencies. Keeping the town updated. And overall I feel he is being useful. While I have yet to decide if he's just stirring up a lot of random shit, he has been rather smart with random accusations. I disagree with his harsh stance on RoL. Don't get me wrong, RoL dieing will provide tremendous insight. He's said it himself. But L dieing would provide just as much insight, if not more.
One thing in L's defense, he was almost bussed earlier, so I'm less suspicious of him. Forgot about that a second ago.
SERIOUSLY PEOPLE, READ L'S PLAN WITH TREE.HUGGER AND POST IF YOU ARE HERE AND WILLING TO DO IT. HELL, POST IF YOU ARE HERE ANYWAY. WE NEED SOME THOUGHTS, THIS IS IMPORTANT
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On March 26 2010 01:09 Versatile wrote:
well, i know RoL thinks zona is mafia, but i think that's just because he's pissed.
as far as suspect, my personal list would be jspazz and iaaan.
you convinced me on jspazz and iaaan has had a posting style that stands out as strange to me.
i'm not sold on nemy yet. need more analysis.
I think your suspicious of me just because I was being rude to you.
RoL has given us alot of nice content, which is good, when we kill him we will learn more from his posts than we would have if he didn't post at all, obviously. While RoL may disagree with the no nuke thing, that is too bad, if he really wanted to use nukes it would be fine to discuss it, not to just use one. He has to die or the game could easily just turn into a shitstorm.
We should not waste our anti nukes to shoot his nuke down; Caller has not done anything that makes him worth saving. Simple as that, we get information, we lose someone who has not proved useful.
Welcome back L O:
Treehugger seems semi reasonable to lynch (at least for day 1), but it will have to wait. How posted why already, and in addition to that, we only have like an hour left to vote, right? Not enough time to switch to anyone but RoL.
tl;dr Lynch RoL, Nuke Caller, wait for night post
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On March 26 2010 07:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2010 07:44 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On March 26 2010 07:28 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On March 26 2010 06:02 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Yeah i guess the whole problem with this RoL thing is that somehow people got convinced to vote for him for being inactive, so he goes ahead and nukes someone - really, we should have seen this coming. There are probably only a few players in this game who wouldn't fire off the last minute death nuke on whoever they find suspicious. This then puts us in a tough spot because now we're forced to lynch him by protocol even though he is no longer inactive. Tough shit i guess.
Depending on how the night kill turns out, I suggest looking at d3_crescentia and tree.hugger and maybe Xelin. It should also be somewhat clear about a few persons' alignment besides Opz and Aben.
Also, i don't think we should read too hard into the people defending or supporting the lynch of RoL when he flips. It's easy to incriminate someone who fucked up and both town and mafia alike will have called him out on it. What the fuck? Do you guys not understand I was inactive for like 24 hours and got fucking mobbed for it? Yeah I became fucking active, because my schedule fucking allowed it. Its very similar to how tomorrow I wouldn't post for around 12 hours because I have school from 10-1 then work from 3-10. Yet you are surprised that on my day off from school/work that I am suddenly "active"? This has to be some elaborate joke to annoy me. I think you have misinterpreted my post. I was expressing my surprise that the town had somehow formed a lynch wagon on you for the sole reason of inactivity, esp. in light of the other inactives around. I personally would not have voted for you, but you decided to nuke Caller. The point of my first paragraph is that originally you were going to be lynched for being inactive (a bad reason, given that there were better lynch targets for today), but when you became active again - a chance to redeem yourself and show interest - you decided to nuke Caller, thus forcing the town to kill you anyway in a grim irony. It is thus 'tough shit' for the town. His nuking of Caller is the only reason we have time to talk about this. L, I thought of a potentially deadly downside to your plan. You being mafia, 2 possible town kills become 3. There is no guarantee that anyone listed is mafia. While, you did catch tree.hugger lurking, and the plan does sound pretty rational, the missing information is very much a problem. I would be willing to risk it though and change my vote to tree.hugger.
Its potentially deadly that we aren't hitting assured mafia members?
Shocker.
That's kinda the risk that any lynch has.
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Yes, plan of L sounds decent, but let me remind you day ends at 08:54 KST at the current time. That's about thirty minutes to attract eleven players. I was impressed at mobilization against RoL, but even this seems to be too much. We at least need a hour.
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On March 26 2010 08:13 haster27 wrote:
Yes, plan of L sounds decent, but let me remind you day ends at 08:54 KST at the current time. That's about thirty minutes to attract eleven players. I was impressed at mobilization against RoL, but even this seems to be too much. We at least need a hour.
I was under the impression the day could be extended if a nuke was fired, or if a nuke was bluffed.
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My God, I am being stupid today. I like this plan. Remove two suspect, one rofl player, and the longer we try to extend the days, less control the Mafia has over the death in Town. However, because of implications of this we need to delay this until the last moment- discussion is essential.
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On March 26 2010 08:11 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2010 07:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:On March 26 2010 07:44 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On March 26 2010 07:28 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On March 26 2010 06:02 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Yeah i guess the whole problem with this RoL thing is that somehow people got convinced to vote for him for being inactive, so he goes ahead and nukes someone - really, we should have seen this coming. There are probably only a few players in this game who wouldn't fire off the last minute death nuke on whoever they find suspicious. This then puts us in a tough spot because now we're forced to lynch him by protocol even though he is no longer inactive. Tough shit i guess.
Depending on how the night kill turns out, I suggest looking at d3_crescentia and tree.hugger and maybe Xelin. It should also be somewhat clear about a few persons' alignment besides Opz and Aben.
Also, i don't think we should read too hard into the people defending or supporting the lynch of RoL when he flips. It's easy to incriminate someone who fucked up and both town and mafia alike will have called him out on it. What the fuck? Do you guys not understand I was inactive for like 24 hours and got fucking mobbed for it? Yeah I became fucking active, because my schedule fucking allowed it. Its very similar to how tomorrow I wouldn't post for around 12 hours because I have school from 10-1 then work from 3-10. Yet you are surprised that on my day off from school/work that I am suddenly "active"? This has to be some elaborate joke to annoy me. I think you have misinterpreted my post. I was expressing my surprise that the town had somehow formed a lynch wagon on you for the sole reason of inactivity, esp. in light of the other inactives around. I personally would not have voted for you, but you decided to nuke Caller. The point of my first paragraph is that originally you were going to be lynched for being inactive (a bad reason, given that there were better lynch targets for today), but when you became active again - a chance to redeem yourself and show interest - you decided to nuke Caller, thus forcing the town to kill you anyway in a grim irony. It is thus 'tough shit' for the town. His nuking of Caller is the only reason we have time to talk about this. L, I thought of a potentially deadly downside to your plan. You being mafia, 2 possible town kills become 3. There is no guarantee that anyone listed is mafia. While, you did catch tree.hugger lurking, and the plan does sound pretty rational, the missing information is very much a problem. I would be willing to risk it though and change my vote to tree.hugger. Its potentially deadly that we aren't hitting assured mafia members? Shocker. That's kinda the risk that any lynch has.
Exceptionally. We don't know how many mafia, or how town aligned you are.
=P Conspiracy theory:
L is mafia trying to make us kill 3 townies?!
But you almost got bussed so I doubt it.
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So yeah, what's the exact time this day ends?
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On March 26 2010 08:06 Iaaan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2010 01:09 Versatile wrote:
well, i know RoL thinks zona is mafia, but i think that's just because he's pissed.
as far as suspect, my personal list would be jspazz and iaaan.
you convinced me on jspazz and iaaan has had a posting style that stands out as strange to me.
i'm not sold on nemy yet. need more analysis. I think your suspicious of me just because I was being rude to you. RoL has given us alot of nice content, which is good, when we kill him we will learn more from his posts than we would have if he didn't post at all, obviously. While RoL may disagree with the no nuke thing, that is too bad, if he really wanted to use nukes it would be fine to discuss it, not to just use one. He has to die or the game could easily just turn into a shitstorm. We should not waste our anti nukes to shoot his nuke down; Caller has not done anything that makes him worth saving. Simple as that, we get information, we lose someone who has not proved useful. Welcome back L O: Treehugger seems semi reasonable to lynch (at least for day 1), but it will have to wait. How posted why already, and in addition to that, we only have like an hour left to vote, right? Not enough time to switch to anyone but RoL. tl;dr Lynch RoL, Nuke Caller, wait for night post
Shitstorm? Do you think this will be like Callers game? No. Executions were instant in that game. We have a 24 Hour chance to stop nukes. And I know for a fact their are anti-nukes floating around. Don't suck up to make yourself any less suspect. We already stated we could slaughter RoL even if we didn't lynch him. So switching doesn't matter, because RoL would still die even if he didn't get lynched. Ya dig?
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08:54 KST
We have exactly 28 minutes to discuss this.
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8:54 KST...Very shortly
I don't think we can do it...And no body wont post they're here...
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Bill, how fucking dumb are you? Insulting my whole country just because I haven't posted in 22 hours? Really?
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On March 26 2010 08:27 ~OpZ~ wrote:
8:54 KST...Very shortly
I don't think we can do it...And no body wont post they're here...
We can do it (assuming there are nuke-wielder here), but without discussion we're going to RoL'd.
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On March 26 2010 08:26 haster27 wrote:
08:54 KST
We have exactly 28 minutes to discuss this.
Nope.
And since I see no rules against this:
##nuke: L
I have no nukes, sup. While I'd love to keep the fact that I have no nukes a secret to dissuade morans from throwing nuclear bomblets at my precious face, I will have to do what I have to do.
If we ever need a day extended, I can now bomb myself.
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On March 26 2010 08:29 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2010 08:26 haster27 wrote:
08:54 KST
We have exactly 28 minutes to discuss this. Nope. And since I see no rules against this: ##nuke: LI have no nukes, sup. While I'd love to keep the fact that I have no nukes a secret to dissuade morans from throwing nuclear bomblets at my precious face, I will have to do what I have to do. If we ever need a day extended, I can now bomb myself.
Jesus Christ.
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