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On March 19 2010 12:47 L wrote:

We don't know all of them, and the GF is probably in here somewhere. Many of the people who we know of aren't confirmed but have claimed. Leads or ideas? Not really. At this point I'm more worried about cleaning up the remaining 9 players in order to drop mafia kp down to 1. After that we can go on a GF hunt using the information we have.

XeliN, for instance, has claimed blue in PMs, yet I don't know what his role is. I kinda would like to know, but I guess its his call. Given that he's probably on the chopping block tonight or tomorrow he should probably act quick.

On March 19 2010 12:58 Iaaan wrote:
Not surprised about BM, but that's fine, no more spam, plus we can move on and focus on real suspects.

I think it is possible that Xelin is just stupid in contradicting himself, not necessarily scum. It doesn't differ from other games. I am not set on this tho.

On March 19 2010 13:03 ~OpZ~ wrote:


Think you can forfeit more information the next day cycle, or the night cycle? I'm really interested now. Lol. More information got me excited for some reason. God damn BM dying. Seeing as nothing but townies, and malongo, have died, a blue role might be hit tonight. We still have probably atleast one or two vets. They might soak up a hit, which would be unbelievably nice. Anticipation is killing me. Lol....

Meds confirmed, or not? Ain't like their target for protection can die and they still live though. And if it drops to just the godfather vs town, ain't like dt's are useful anymore at that point. Ready to rap this up. Maybe the Four Loco just got me fucked up but I'm energetic. (Maybe the four loco)

Fishball, I'm sorry, I just have seen you pick mafia out in the games I've played. I was just arguing that you were good at hunting mafia. You haven't posted anything useful...or really anything. Yet you were here. So are you active, or inactive? Do you just read and not post, or do you feel you have nothing to respond to? You've been pretty accurate in the games I've played, and I'd love to see you be right again. Lol. You were the first person I checked during Caller's game. So quit arguing and do something. Come on man.

On March 19 2010 13:10 Fishball wrote:


This is from my msn conversation with BC with a comment directed to you.

~ James ~ ffXIII is kinda amazing says:
hes just retarded
ignore him

Just slow down and think for a second. I really mean it.

On March 19 2010 13:30 ~OpZ~ wrote:


Like I give a fuck? Seriously. How would I know that's directed at me? Then next, look at it from an informed townie's perspective? And next, BC, if you got such wonderful things to say on MSN, please post them, instead of being a jackass over MSN. Thanks in advance. Not like I've defended your ass, or anything, but that's irrelevant at any rate.

Fishball, you haven't posted shit. Do you think I'm not thinking or something. Even if you aren't mafia, you're worthless. I'm worthless too for the most part, but I've checked the thread, and seen three other semi inactive posters post and called them all out. Only you've used some time defending it. I've just asked you to provide some more content and you can't. If BC can't Post in a thread and he wants to leave it on L, then fine, I'm with Versatile, he's useless. I wont vote for a confirmed DT...But still, fuck that. Do nothing mayor, shit.

On March 19 2010 12:57 Incognito wrote:
Actually this game has taught me that bus drivers are hillariously awesome but completely imba. Regardless I still stand by the idea that you just don't announce your DT checks even if you're elected. Unless you're trying to force the mafia to hit the greens and not blues. But probably confirmed townies > forcing the mafia to choose certain hits. Because they could always wait a day to hit. Either way, probably next game will have to be regular. No plans, just straight up traditional mafia. Finding scum the way you normally do. No shooting order lists, no DT/BD plans. But this means everyone has to post.

On March 19 2010 10:12 Fishball wrote:


Just fyi, I wanted BM out-of-the-game long before Day even started.
Yes, out of the game, that means banned, mod-killed, hit, lynch, whatever means to get rid of his existence.

Annoying little prick.

I've played over a dozen games, and he is definitely on top of my list.
As much as I disagree with a lot of L's argument, I share the same sentiment with him on BM.

On March 19 2010 12:09 johnnyspazz wrote:
perhaps this is a scummy tell
in the game nemy was mafia, he abstained the first vote and in this game he essentially abstained by voting for d3. L and BC had reasons to vote for d3 because they were actually in a position to win the election so voting for anyone would just push them farther away from winning the election

On March 19 2010 11:57 ~OpZ~ wrote:

Have you posted one?

On March 19 2010 11:01 L wrote:

Well, here was the plan; We looked at the abenson votelist and decided that since we had so many people on it that we were suspicious of, that we were going to liquidate the entire list.

BM just finished trying to rig votes two days in a row, so he was pretty much a forced kill on our part. Just for anyone watching the game; I've said this before, but one of your jobs as a green player is not to MAKE yourself a blatant target unless you're trying to set up a gambit. If BM was a hatter and wanted to get lynched while claiming mafia bus in pms, for instance, that woulda been a decently baller move. His play, however, was far from that.

Tomorrow we're going to double hit another 2, and we're going to have another 2 DT RCs on list targets. We want to vig another. Granted the people that we have claimed from that list, we should be able to basically purge it within a day.

For this night, I need to move one of my bombs, we need the DTs to check the right people, and if we have a vig, I need him to give me a heads up. Granted we don't have captain spamalot in the game anymore, people posting solid analysis won't get pushed off the page asap.



There are a grand total of 9 people who haven't claimed yet.

Our top suspects are probably d3_crescentia(DT check tonight), Foolishness, XeliN(DT check tonight) and tree.hugger.

XeliN has SUPER inconsistent play. He defends BM, then votes to kill him, for instance. This was noted earlier. XeliN's been on our collective radars since like.. day 2.

Foolishness hasn't added a single thing to the town yet, despite piping in here and there; His attempts to defend BM are prematurely ended when he decides that after declaring his point of view that he'd rather just stop getting in the middle of the issue.

d3 just doesn't bother posting. at all. Its pretty retarded.

tree.hugger same deal.

Now, I still don't know who the vig is, but I'm going to outline the people who have claimed to our circle in one way or another.

I'm a hatter

2 DTs
1 Medic
1 Vet
2 Bus Drivers

I think there's a second medic, but I'm not sure. If that's the case, one of the bus drivers is going to be mafia. If there's no second medic, our drivers might be legit. We're also missing a Vig. The bus driver with shunts left, PM me. The Medic PM me. We need to BREAK OUT SOME DEF tonight. DTs pm me about which of the 2 check targets listed above to make sure you don't fuck yourself.

Out of the remaining 9 people, 3-4 are probably mafia. There's likely 1 GF in our system.

Now, looking at the numbers: 4 mafia, 13 of us. We're going to lose 2 tonight. Hopefully less. Probably a vig hit too. If we fuck everything up, we go down to 4:10. Double lynch hits wrong again? We go to 4:8. We miss med prots? 4:6. Even at this point, we can still win if we all work together. I can be lynched as a desperation measure to kill 2 mafia, which puts their kp at one. We'd be at 2:5, then 2:4 after.

So yeah, we need to be accurate. I need, once again, people looking at specific people. If everyone can put the time in, I'm going to suggest the following:

Go to the first page and look at the player list. Take the next surviving person after you and look through their posting habits, voting patterns and previous game behavior as mafia or town. Post comparisons. We need this information.

On March 14 2010 14:44 L wrote:
Citi.zen, if you feel so strongly about killing me, how's about we kill bill murray today and if I'm wrong, you kill me tomorrow.

Sounds like everyone wins.

On March 19 2010 19:12 madnessman wrote:


What about this plan: we lynch you tomorrow.



You've pulled this shit in 2/2 of the mafia games I've played, and chances are, this game JUST LIKE LAST GAME you're not going to hold up your end of the bargain. I think you should be lynched just based on principle. You can't say shit like that if you yourself are unsure--if there is even a possibility that you could be wrong. I followed you and voted for BM for the lynch BECAUSE you volunteered to be lynched if you were wrong; thus I figured, BM must be mafia because there's no way this guy would say something like that unless he was very very sure that he is correct.

To the rest of the town: I don't think we should be so ready to trust L, just because he has the role of a mad hatter. Sure, he's been saying throughout the game that his role is easily provable. But that's only the case ONCE HE'S DEAD. It's kind of a circular argument: "Vote me for mayor, because I'm blue! But don't worry, my role is provable! But it's only provable once I'm dead, but don't kill me...I'm not mafia! Keep me alive, because I'm blue, and my role is easily provable..." Etc etc.

Tbh, I don't think the mad hatter role is very difficult for mafia to claim. As long as the mad hatter stays alive, his role is unable to be proven. And by claiming blue and saying his role is easily provable, people are less likely to lynch him. Therefore, it's possible for mafia to claim mad hatter--they just have to be willing to take the gamble that the GF won't get killed off early in game. And this is L that we're talking about--if anyone would take this gamble, it'd be him; he's ballsy enough to pull off a stunt like this.

On March 19 2010 13:07 ~OpZ~ wrote:

So is this a statement of suspecting Xelin, or just calling him stupid townie? I'd agree on either, but is it backing him being town or stating you suspect him? Please clarify. Thanks in advance.