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On March 18 2010 00:57 XeliN wrote:
Quite simply I have wanted to try an electorate role since the first game I played in, I ran for election in that one as well and guess what? I was Town.
Why have I been supporting Bill?
Quite frankly he strikes me as someone who is town and I was getting irritated//suspicious of L's constant emphasis on lynching him, personally can't see how he is not the one being lynched at this point but I guess if I or more importantly Bill flip green then the town will consider the fact that he could be mafia
You voted Bill...and were surprised by him popping green, after saying he would pop green!? You lying mafia filth!
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Fishball, don't ignore that. Why haven't you posted a list of suspects like every other mafia game you've played in as town? That is a huge difference of your play this game from the others.
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On March 19 2010 10:34 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2010 10:29 Fishball wrote:On March 19 2010 10:24 Bill Murray wrote:
Wow. "annoying little prick" is not cussing at someone these days? you're cool. Let's see, 5 posts within 20 minutes of death. I wonder how many more times you'll post. depends how many times youll keep responding to me with a sucky tone
Fishball, Bill, STOP. Bill, dead people are dead for a reason. I don't want to do this, but argumentatively post again and face a ban. Rules are rules, and they've been bent far enough.
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On March 19 2010 02:17 Bill Murray wrote:
I don't see how you all can give in to someone childishly wanting to waste the town's most important lynch of the whole game to get rid of the mafia's damn kill power on the player in the game who is the most obvious townie to numerous people. It is irrelevant what you feel about my personality or my post-style, do you want to win?
If you really do want to win, and you're green or blue,
Don't lynch me.
We need to get a red. Lets put our heads together here, one person MAY be able to do everything; however, the town needs to help itself collectively.
I tried to do everything, to take your pms, and to categorize what roles people claimed in order to catch reds, but you all wouldn't let me into your trust. The only person who PMed me their role was XeliN, and I am not going to disclose that information at this time.
Xelin, YOU were the only person to claim to Bill, and you were SURPRISED he popped town?
Vigi, please slaughter Xelin tonight.
Either he is mafia, or he is not exactly the brightest townie alive. Someone else's opinion on Xelin flip flopping around?
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On March 19 2010 10:27 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Bill makes me laugh. I know he spams a lot, but when it comes being a cool dude, he gets it. And he's often more funny, just he actually was interested in trying to help.
Sorry Fishball, But I'm in it to win, not hold a grudge because I don't like someone. Hell L isn't exactly the best at sharing information, even when he's mafia with you. That two mafia game. Dunno what to expect, but Fishball, not even you can lie. I do end up either arguing, or talking with you every game. Seriously, we have atleast one pm between each other each game. And you usually come in with some suspicions, but you haven't done that once this game. Incognito saying it's your style, no. You post rarely, and often they aren't important, but you've always posted a list of suspects. You have yet to do that this game. So sense you haven't played as protown as in previous games (oh I watch you, I watch you good. You've done pointed out on several occasions how good you are at picking mafia out) I highly suspect you to be Mafioso.
That is all.
All the gibberish aside, I just want to point out 2 things.
"Seriously, we have atleast one pm between each other each game"
Like I stated above, I've played over a dozen games. The only two occasions you ever PM'd me was last game in Caller's, which you said you checked me (everyone knows). Another time we exchanged PM's, was in BC's game. I PM'd you after you died for a comment (I was dead already).
So when you say "each game", it is quite misleading.
"you've always posted a list of suspects."
I don't know what you are smoking, but the only I took the lead role and pointed out suspects was in BC's recent game. Feel free to check every single TL mafia thread in this forum. You will find nothing.
This isn't a counter argument to your "accusation", but more-so to clarify some information that is rather misleading or flat out false.
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On March 19 2010 10:38 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Fishball, don't ignore that. Why haven't you posted a list of suspects like every other mafia game you've played in as town? That is a huge difference of your play this game from the others.
I'm typing, and can't you just wait a bit.
Read the post above.
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Sorry, Fishball, but you've done it more than once. And I have another Pm from you a long ass time ago. And out of the dozens? I haven't played as many as you. I went AWOL when Mafia forum came into existence. I said with every game I've played with you, not the rest of it.
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I haven't checked my 24 page PM inbox, but let's say you're right, we did talk a year ago in a Mafia game which I don't even remember.
You're point?
If you missed the point of my post and need me to spell it out, there is no significant meaning in our exchange, and the amount of exchange could be count with 5 fingers.
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On March 19 2010 10:12 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Oh, and I believe we should be expecting a post from L soon, right?
What's the plan, oh great lyncher of Bill Murray.
Well, here was the plan; We looked at the abenson votelist and decided that since we had so many people on it that we were suspicious of, that we were going to liquidate the entire list.
BM just finished trying to rig votes two days in a row, so he was pretty much a forced kill on our part. Just for anyone watching the game; I've said this before, but one of your jobs as a green player is not to MAKE yourself a blatant target unless you're trying to set up a gambit. If BM was a hatter and wanted to get lynched while claiming mafia bus in pms, for instance, that woulda been a decently baller move. His play, however, was far from that.
Tomorrow we're going to double hit another 2, and we're going to have another 2 DT RCs on list targets. We want to vig another. Granted the people that we have claimed from that list, we should be able to basically purge it within a day.
For this night, I need to move one of my bombs, we need the DTs to check the right people, and if we have a vig, I need him to give me a heads up. Granted we don't have captain spamalot in the game anymore, people posting solid analysis won't get pushed off the page asap.
On March 16 2010 10:03 flamewheel91 wrote:
Day 2 Lynch Vote:
madnessman Votes: 0
Iaaan
~OpZ~
Bill Murray
Abenson
Bill Murray Votes: 2
L
johnnyspazz
Abenson Votes: 9
BloodyC0bbler (x3)
Fishball
d3_crescentia
Foolishness
madnessman
johnnyspazz
XeliN
citi.zen
tree.hugger
Zona
Bill Murray
Malongo Votes: 8
Incognito
BloodyC0bbler (x3)
Bill Murray
~OpZ~
Abenson
CynanMachae
sidesprang
johnnyspazz
BloodyC0bbler Votes: 1
Versatile
L Votes: 1
Bill Murray
nemY
~OpZ~ Votes: 1
l10f
nemY Votes: 0
Bill Murray
sidesprang Votes: 1
Iaaan
Non-voters (i.e. those to be modkilled)
Malongo
Voting for the Day 2 lynch is over. Abenson will be lynched. Malongo will be modkilled. Night post coming up shortly.
There are a grand total of 9 people who haven't claimed yet.
Our top suspects are probably d3_crescentia(DT check tonight), Foolishness, XeliN(DT check tonight) and tree.hugger.
XeliN has SUPER inconsistent play. He defends BM, then votes to kill him, for instance. This was noted earlier. XeliN's been on our collective radars since like.. day 2.
Foolishness hasn't added a single thing to the town yet, despite piping in here and there; His attempts to defend BM are prematurely ended when he decides that after declaring his point of view that he'd rather just stop getting in the middle of the issue.
d3 just doesn't bother posting. at all. Its pretty retarded.
tree.hugger same deal.
Now, I still don't know who the vig is, but I'm going to outline the people who have claimed to our circle in one way or another.
I'm a hatter
2 DTs
1 Medic
1 Vet
2 Bus Drivers
I think there's a second medic, but I'm not sure. If that's the case, one of the bus drivers is going to be mafia. If there's no second medic, our drivers might be legit. We're also missing a Vig. The bus driver with shunts left, PM me. The Medic PM me. We need to BREAK OUT SOME DEF tonight. DTs pm me about which of the 2 check targets listed above to make sure you don't fuck yourself.
Out of the remaining 9 people, 3-4 are probably mafia. There's likely 1 GF in our system.
Now, looking at the numbers: 4 mafia, 13 of us. We're going to lose 2 tonight. Hopefully less. Probably a vig hit too. If we fuck everything up, we go down to 4:10. Double lynch hits wrong again? We go to 4:8. We miss med prots? 4:6. Even at this point, we can still win if we all work together. I can be lynched as a desperation measure to kill 2 mafia, which puts their kp at one. We'd be at 2:5, then 2:4 after.
So yeah, we need to be accurate. I need, once again, people looking at specific people. If everyone can put the time in, I'm going to suggest the following:
Go to the first page and look at the player list. Take the next surviving person after you and look through their posting habits, voting patterns and previous game behavior as mafia or town. Post comparisons. We need this information.
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God damn typos.
You're -> Your.
Count -> Counted
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Just to add some content to this post, to sum it up, basically you're saying I'm not following my pattern due to the reasons above, therefore I am suspicious. I, however pointed out that the reasons you listed are either misleading or false, therefore the accusation does not stand.
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OpZ are you really this thick or just do great impressions, i've already given a strong hint here is a more plain one, look up the precice definition of the word sarcasm in a dictionary, consider looking back on statements you have read with this new, wonderous concept of sarcasm fresh in your mind.
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I voted for Bill because he voted for me.
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I know what sarcasm meant. I was clearly being sarcastic. You are clearly Mafia. L will have you ass fucked tonight, if things go right. You painted your own self suspicious, not by voting for Bill, but for saying you were surprised he was green, after stating you believed he was green. How is that thick?
As for Fishball, since you believe you are playing the exactly the same, you are agreeing you are being a useless townie? Mind role claiming in the thread then? So everyone knows to ignore you?
I don't know how else to put it. But seriously, you have to have a list of people to suspect. I also suspect citizen and versatile, but arguably versatile might not be mafia. Xelin was right and it could of just been a gambit by her to state she hopes she dies....
I appreciate the statement of the plan L. Do we know if Dt's are informed if they get Bus Drived? Because a blatant explanation of our plan, and a mafia aligned BD might of messed us up. L, you can post who yours bombs are on. Only a medic can block your bombs, so it's a almost a guaranteed kill, so theirs no point really hiding it. Just throwing that out there.
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On March 19 2010 11:24 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I know what sarcasm meant. I was clearly being sarcastic. You are clearly Mafia. L will have you ass fucked tonight, if things go right. You painted your own self suspicious, not by voting for Bill, but for saying you were surprised he was green, after stating you believed he was green. How is that thick?
As for Fishball, since you believe you are playing the exactly the same, you are agreeing you are being a useless townie? Mind role claiming in the thread then? So everyone knows to ignore you?
I don't know how else to put it. But seriously, you have to have a list of people to suspect. I also suspect citizen and versatile, but arguably versatile might not be mafia. Xelin was right and it could of just been a gambit by her to state she hopes she dies....
I appreciate the statement of the plan L. Do we know if Dt's are informed if they get Bus Drived? Because a blatant explanation of our plan, and a mafia aligned BD might of messed us up. L, you can post who yours bombs are on. Only a medic can block your bombs, so it's a almost a guaranteed kill, so theirs no point really hiding it. Just throwing that out there.
DTs get informed, but no I'm not telling mafia who my bombs are on. If they find out I'm wrong on both bombs hitting me eliminates 3 townies. If i'm right on both, they essentially lose the game instantly.
Giving them that information is the dumbest fucking shit I've ever heard and incog wanted it too.
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OpZ when you say "I was clearly being sarcastic" what do you mean, because I have no idea what you mean and no faith that you do either.
The comment that I was suprised at bill flipping green was a sarcastic one, not to be taken literally, to clarify incase there is anyone else here who is unable to understand what sarcasm means, I was not suprised he flipped green as I considered him green from an early stage and the way he acting subsequently didnt change that perception.
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On March 19 2010 11:24 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I know what sarcasm meant. I was clearly being sarcastic. You are clearly Mafia. L will have you ass fucked tonight, if things go right. You painted your own self suspicious, not by voting for Bill, but for saying you were surprised he was green, after stating you believed he was green. How is that thick?
As for Fishball, since you believe you are playing the exactly the same, you are agreeing you are being a useless townie? Mind role claiming in the thread then? So everyone knows to ignore you?
I don't know how else to put it. But seriously, you have to have a list of people to suspect. I also suspect citizen and versatile, but arguably versatile might not be mafia. Xelin was right and it could of just been a gambit by her to state she hopes she dies....
I appreciate the statement of the plan L. Do we know if Dt's are informed if they get Bus Drived? Because a blatant explanation of our plan, and a mafia aligned BD might of messed us up. L, you can post who yours bombs are on. Only a medic can block your bombs, so it's a almost a guaranteed kill, so theirs no point really hiding it. Just throwing that out there.
I was never going to directly counter argue your accusation, you can think whatever you like.
I just dislike the fact that you couldn't even get the facts straight before accusing.
This would be the end of me acknowledging you. Feel free to take another stab.
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Touche L, I didn't think of that. Appreciate that. It just enlightened me into the worlds of being a hatter =P
Anyway if incog asked too...well...do you think incog is mafia? Or did he want you to tell the town? I mean, telling him, seeing as he proved himself would be another story, right? Or do you fear he's mafia bus, and in touch with the mafia?
Ohhhhhh, you were being sarcastic....that's believable. You voted for him out of revenge? You could of voted Foolishness, and bill would of voted foolishness...
Fuck, look at nemy and the rest of them? Bill was all but confirmed townie, and everyone wanted to lynch him. There was almost no point in it. I'm not for lynching townies.
But nighty night Xelin. If you are mafia, and not the GF, (who would make you that?!), Nighty night.
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On March 19 2010 10:44 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2010 10:38 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Fishball, don't ignore that. Why haven't you posted a list of suspects like every other mafia game you've played in as town? That is a huge difference of your play this game from the others. I'm typing, and can't you just wait a bit. Read the post above.
An hour later and you still haven't posted a list yet have you? Hmmm...
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I got the facts straight from as far as I'm aware of it. I'm alarmed because every game you've done it you've atleast picked out one mafia member correct. That's useful. I just want some insight into someone who picks out mafia as good as you.
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On March 19 2010 11:56 nemY wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2010 10:44 Fishball wrote:On March 19 2010 10:38 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Fishball, don't ignore that. Why haven't you posted a list of suspects like every other mafia game you've played in as town? That is a huge difference of your play this game from the others. I'm typing, and can't you just wait a bit. Read the post above. An hour later and you still haven't posted a list yet have you? Hmmm...
Have you posted one?
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