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l10f
United States3241 Posts
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
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L
Canada4732 Posts
Non-voters (i.e. those in danger of being modkilled) Versatile Malongo tree.hugger CynanMachae nemY sidesprang Zona Note the people talking about their awesome choices who refuse to vote. Think about why. | ||
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Versatile
United States396 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On March 16 2010 06:07 Versatile wrote: umm, i've already voted, asswipe. I wanted to see if you were around. Look at that. You are. | ||
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Versatile
United States396 Posts
On March 16 2010 06:37 L wrote: I wanted to see if you were around. Look at that. You are. next time you want my attention, just lift your skirt up a bit. that always does the trick  | ||
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citi.zen
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Versatile
United States396 Posts
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citi.zen
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
I'm gonna vote for Malongo, the arguments pointed out earlier seems pretty good to me. Imo, based on the fact that he ran for mayoer/pardoner and then dissapeared is a solid enough motivation. If he was red he was trying to get elected and then get GF, if he was green/blue then he should have known beforehand that he could be active/pro-town if he won while right now he's just hiding | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On March 16 2010 06:23 Bill Murray wrote: I'm voting nemY because he changed his vote to L with me... major scumtell imo good thing no one cares what you think  | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On March 16 2010 04:00 Incognito wrote: Anyway, at the rate that this is going, I am considering pardoning Abenson if he wins this lynch. Not because I am convinced of his innocence, but because I think you guys are just trying to bandwagon him to death. Do not pardon anyone. (I'm still catching up on posts and haven't decided whether or not he feels innocent.) Even if he is innocent and dies, we need that information as town. If you pardon, we have no idea whether or not he is innocent, and we cannot use that information to evaluate how people were discussing him. Even a town member being lynched provides more information than we had before, and we need this information. To be honest I think the existence of a pardoner is not helpful to the town because pardoning itself is rarely beneficial, and is downright dangerous in the hands of a mafia pardoner late game, but that's a discussion for elsewhere, I suppose. | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
I'm voting for sidesprang because madnessman doesn't seem that scummy, and for the reasons that incognito pointed out. The case isn't the best, but I don't see the mafia killing inactives for us, and even if inactive people flip green, less places for the mafia to hide. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On March 15 2010 10:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote: The strategy for a CLAIMED, PROTECTED DT is different from the strategy for an UNCLAIMED, UNPROTECTED DT.As I have stated earlier in this thread, the DT's job is to build the list of confirmed townies + find red. An unclaimed, unprotected DT has the trouble of convincing the town if he or she finds red, that's why finding greens/blues and speaking with them privately is first priority. Instead, you are a protected, claimed DT - YOUR PRIORITY IS TO FIND RED right now, NOT blue/green. First of all, the town has no reason to trust you. Perhaps you are a mafia member and the real DT is afraid to claim in fear of being killed. But the biggest difference is that the town should vote along with you if you say you found red, at least the first time you say it. You do not have the normal trouble of an unclaimed DT where it's difficult to convince the town to vote with you, and you do not have the normal fear of an unprotected DT where if they claim they could be killed the next night. If you point out a red and the town lynches them, and it turns out to be red, THEN you will get a massive boost to credibility (and perhaps then can start being a trusted coordinator, although I still think you should focus on finding red). If you point out a red and the town lynches them, and they aren't red...well the town should know what to do. It's possible that you are a mafia member sacrificing a fellow member when you point out a red and it turns out to be red, but that case is still good for the town, as losing a mafia member that early really helps our probabilities. I want you, BC, to focus on finding red, not blue/green, with your DT checks. In fact, I will be VERY suspicious if by around Day 4/5 you still have not located any reds with your DT check as the probabilities of randomly finding at least ONE red after several checks is high. (Example: in the night 1-3 checks assuming that the town is not successful in lynching, the probability of finding at least mafia through the three entirely random checks is 57%, and BC should be greatly increasing this chance by using his reading of the thread.) | ||
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Zona
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Zona
40426 Posts
If BC is a mafia member, then it is essential we figure this out as soon as possible. (If BC is green or a non-DT...I hate you for lying as a town member. Lying as a town member is rarely beneficial.) P.S. Those players who play erratically as town to help their chances when they play another game as mafia - I also hate you. You reduce your and the town's chances for winning when you are town only to help your chances to win another game as mafia. That's a sign of weakness, not skill, in the game of mafia. | ||
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sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
On March 15 2010 13:19 Incognito wrote: Abenson as a lynch candidate. Well, I for one, do not like this at all. First off, its been over 24 hours. And nobody's said anything in defense of Abenson. The mafia have not come out to point out someone more suspicious. And quite frankly, Abenson is no more suspicious than in other games. If I were to categorize his posting behavior, I would say its the same as always. Useless one liners. Which yes, he did while he was mafia, but he also did it as town. There is nothing extraordinary in my opinion about Abenson's behavior. Which naturally puts him lower on my list than other potential candidates. Which brings us to other candidates. Quite frankly, there's a lot. We can never be sure, but at the moment, I'm not comfortable at all with Abenson as a candidate. I would suggest Malongo and Sidesprang as alternatives. Both of whom have very few posts. Malongo has also gone mysteriously missing after his bid for office. Soon after posting, he was called out, and never responded. Which is always unsettling. Furthermore, he usually posts more material. Sometimes its not very useful material, but he always has some material. Either way, this is different for Malongo. Sidesprang. Everyone is claiming excuses. Sidesprang is no exception. We only have one instance of sidesprang as town, which is BC's TL Mafia XVI. Where Sidesprang posts little, but at least he seems to be putting in some effort. From this game and last game where he was mafia, I don't see the same effort. Right now, I'm going to vote Malongo. So Malongo, if you are around, please show up and convince me that you are town. Oh also another note: Archives. Please keep up with them. I need them to keep the analysis going. A lot of people are falling behind on this and we still have four people who aren't participating. People who have yet to make an archive post: 3. Malongo 9. nemY 10. sidesprang 11. Zona I understand ppl thinking im scum, cause my posting does not indicate town. I've always been a low poster. My first game i played really badly thinking that clues where something you really could rely on(i mean why else should they be there  ), i made some posts mostly based on clues as i was/am not good at reading ppls posts and finding faults about them. The next game i was mafia and scared of fucking up, and i posted next to nothing the entire game. Figured that i could get away with it(and i did ). The next game i was also mafia, but then i would say i put in an effort trying to come up with some good plans. Altho i was not there for the last 4-5 days because they happend at an hour where i was sleeping(live in norway). So you can not say that me not putting forth an effort = mafia, atleast not based on previous games. | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
The town benefits from clarity - when players (both mafia and town) post their opinions and thoughts in a solid, clear manner. Their accusations and plans can later be examined to see if they were knowingly trying to protect mafia or advance the mafia's goals. Your posting is not clear and you are constantly denying that you held various opinions, as players try to interpret your posts. And you do not clearly stating what your actual positions are in return (beyond "lynch BM"). Furthermore, your vendetta against BM doesn't seem useful. You have indeed posted a few in-game reasons in favor for his lynch for it, but beyond your "case" have expressed your desire to lynch him out of animosity or reasons beyond how BM has performed in this game. Why this is unhelpful is that if BM is lynched and he turns out green, I suspect you will wash your hands of your position by falling back on "I didn't like how he played, even if he was townie" or something along those lines. | ||
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