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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 16 2010 18:51 GMT
#967
[QUOTE]On March 15 2010 08:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Random list of suspects

These are people that currently seem fishy in some sense that make them stand out in my mind. I will attempt to do my best at giving a reason why.

To start with Xelin
+ Show Spoiler +

He has been “active” thus far. As in he ran in the election, although it went no where.
On March 11 2010 07:30 XeliN wrote:
I'm going to put myself forward for office, wasn't going to as I have an essay due tomorrow and didnt expect to be able to pay attention to this but seems like I'm going to be able to due to my laziness//need to procrastinate.

I think I am good at analysing peoples allignment from their posts, and is something that I've gotten better at the more games I've played.

DT's being able to rolecheck elected also means that I could be trusted early on and co-ordinate with blues to get us a decisive win early on.

Also i'd quite like to play an elected position simply because I have not had the chance before and it would make the game more exciting (for me).

Elect XeliN !


Keep that bolded statement in mind. He basically wanted to be checked to co-ordinate with blues. Cool idea right? However, it puts him the center of the town circle. Seems like something anyone would want. Seems kinda legit until you

On March 15 2010 07:26 Abenson wrote:
From what I've seen so far, I think that:
I think that the most important part is to have the dt's post their results. I know that this is risky, but I think it's extremely important that we get information from the dt's.


Note: this abenson quote is because of the following

On March 13 2010 02:52 XeliN wrote:
Also L if you get voted in don't lynch Bill it would be a waste, going over the thread I would lynch Abenson

On March 12 2010 07:17 Abenson wrote:
Declaration:
I think it's really hard for me to post anything BUT 1-liners unless I have something important or I am trying to argue a point or protecting myself. Therefore from now on I will simply post 1-liners in order to state my mood/thoughts on the current matter

P.S. I'm kinda lazy to update my post in the archives



Town or Mafia this is just plain unhelpful, also I'd like to restate something I wrote way long ago that no-one really responded to. We need to put in place and agreed rule whereby people who are exceptionally inacitve or do not contribute are lynched. Forces the Mafia to post and forces town to try to participate, win win. thoughts?

He specifically wanted to lynch abenson if elected.

However, (keep in mind the abenson quote I posted above), he then agrees with him found

On March 15 2010 08:08 XeliN wrote:
well if BC was telling the truth about his role there is no reason he should not disclose who he has checked, instead of writing their specific role he could simply say "checked X and result was either Red//Townie" posting blue roles would be bad because it gives the mafia information but I can't see how it would not be beneficial to share the results in that way. I don't think it's right that he can get away with claiming DT and not provide any evidence that he is, seems dodgy to me.


This is what confuses me. He actively wanted to kill abenson, yet agrees that all DT info should be handed over to town. In this case he does want me to name who I’ve cleared, but not their role (ok, seems kinda cool I guess) except of how bad an Idea it is.

Lets spell it out simply. If someone is red, they get called out immediately, but as soon as you give a list of “cleared” players, especially this early, the mafia just has to continiously shoot them to prevent a town circle of any kind forming.

So in short, my main reason for suspecting him, he wants information/be in control of information that as town, he should know how it should be used, while at the same time agreeing with the person he wanted to kill if he had been elected. Not a lot to go on really at the moment, but enough to keep me looking at him.
Also as a minor note, he hasn’t kept his archives up to date at the time of this post, something minor but worth noting for reference later.


A quite long delayed response, apologies have been pretty busy and only able to skim through the thread mostly. Firstly I wanted to lynch Abenson mostly because from the start I thought we should put a place a rule whereby inactives or people who are not contributing were immediately lynched, Abenson struck me as a person who had contributed very little in comparison to others. I agreed that some info shuld be publically posted mainly to try to verify you as a DT, it has been a long time since you roleclaimed and as of yet it seems quite plausible that you could have been lying all along about being DT, basically I didn't want people to get away with roleclaiming in order to get into office and then getting away with providing us no evidence that you are that role.

And the archives is an annoying (but neccesary) chore, ill update it later on today
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 16 2010 20:45 GMT
#1001
Yeh bitches this is the mo fuckin cunting TL Mafia Forum *sarcasm*
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 16 2010 20:52 GMT
#1003
I sincerely apologise if I hurt your feelings, I hope we can still be friends *sar.....
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 16 2010 22:17 GMT
#1008
If your going to persist with this L then someone ought to DT check Bill, if he returns a town role then you ought to be lynched, unless part of your suspicion is that he could also be the godfather.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 16 2010 23:47 GMT
#1034
On March 17 2010 08:27 flamewheel91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 08:06 Bill Murray wrote:
If you notice back when people weren't messing with me, I was actually posting in a good format.


Didn't I tell you to stop spamming already?
...And to make constructive posts?

Or else there will be fire.
[/u]

This is further suggestive that Bill is town in my eyes, if he was mafia then Flame would hardly emphasis "make constructive posts" as it can be in the mafia's interest to make crappy posts.

Might be reading too much into this but it immediately stuck out when I read it.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 17 2010 05:09 GMT
#1133
You guys are idiots, im a plain Townie, it would be a waste of a lynch when i flip green. going to sleep but now.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 17 2010 15:57 GMT
#1181
Quite simply I have wanted to try an electorate role since the first game I played in, I ran for election in that one as well and guess what? I was Town.

Why have I been supporting Bill?

Quite frankly he strikes me as someone who is town and I was getting irritated//suspicious of L's constant emphasis on lynching him, personally can't see how he is not the one being lynched at this point but I guess if I or more importantly Bill flip green then the town will consider the fact that he could be mafia

D3 You brought up a point about being more worried about my self pledged confidence in ability to detect town//mafia this game.

In my own opinion I have improved at this in general the more games I've played, not actually been great at catching mafia, quite the reverse, but have been good at identifying town just on the way they post.

Incog you mentioned 1) I said i would not be able to be very active as I had a essay due on the 12th. 2) I then put myself forward for mayor as well as try to instigate a no inactivity rule 3) I ask you to publically give your reasons for voting Malongo

Firstly I wanted to do the paper and get it out of the way without distractions so didn't plan on keeping up with the thread untill it was over//done, couldn't hack it ended up going over the thread as well as playing HoN//BW that night, unfortunately I find it hard to knuckle down and committ myself to study.

Secondly, already stated why I ran for office, Think I have improved and it is something I've wanted to do since my very first game, also the inactivity rule I still think is a good idea and people just plain ignored it, tried to bring it up again at numerous points but no-one even responded as to their thoughts on it. If you thought it was a bad idea THEN SAY SO, don't bring it up at a late point in the game as a reason to lynch me.

Thirdly, I don't even get how this makes me suspicious, asking you to publically state your reasons for voting Malongo? At the time he was someone I was considering as well but apart from his runnning for mayor and going inactive there was little else to suggest his being mafia so I wanted you to provide your reasons. If I was mafia you really think I would want to bring even more attention to someone trying to lynch a fellow mafia? bullshit.

I'm plain town, i've rolecalled now and lynching me I guarantee would be a complete waste, when I flip green then lynch L, he has been acting scummy the entire game and getting away with it.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 17 2010 15:58 GMT
#1182
"Why I ran for Election" was missed out at the top, was ctrl+c/v'ing, trying to respond to mass people giving poor//inconsisten reasons why I am mafia is difficult...
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 18 2010 21:53 GMT
#1285
Bill I can understand voting for me to try to not have yourself lynched but you really think I'm mafia? Also I've already publically roleclaimed, keeping that info from town doesn't matter, not lynching an innocent does.

The Mafia Family:

D3_Cresentia, posts very little and most of it recently and is very non committal towards lynching me, suggests he thinks I am suspicious and could be mafia but doesn't dive into the pool, Mafia tell in my eyes to cover his tracks.

10f, Literally posts NOTHING of value and then suddenly jumps in to state he is going to be voting for me

Versatile, this is more just on feel, some of his post have struck me as mafia-like. also posted semi jokingly that he wanted to find a way out of the game without getting mod banned perfect thing for mafia to "claim" to want to do even as a joke.

Foolishness, he seems to have sprung out of the blue mostly to try and get me lynched it seems, hasn't provided much an an argument at all as to why other than "I think XeliN is red" Scummy as hell. I haven't even received as much as much as 1PM from him or even accusatory public post about why I am red he seems to just assume it must be true.

Guess it looks like I'm going to be voting Bill, still not considering him as a viable Mafia candidate but the way he has tried to shift a bandwagon going onto me and the way he did it seems strange, also while i think hes green I know I am so it's not a hard choice.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 19 2010 01:27 GMT
#1332
Oh wow he's green, did not expect that.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 19 2010 01:30 GMT
#1336
your logic is flawless OpZ, whilst your at it try not to stray too close to a dictionary that might contain the word sarcasm in.
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 19 2010 02:08 GMT
#1351
OpZ are you really this thick or just do great impressions, i've already given a strong hint here is a more plain one, look up the precice definition of the word sarcasm in a dictionary, consider looking back on statements you have read with this new, wonderous concept of sarcasm fresh in your mind.

Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 19 2010 02:10 GMT
#1352
I voted for Bill because he voted for me.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 19 2010 02:37 GMT
#1355
OpZ when you say "I was clearly being sarcastic" what do you mean, because I have no idea what you mean and no faith that you do either.

The comment that I was suprised at bill flipping green was a sarcastic one, not to be taken literally, to clarify incase there is anyone else here who is unable to understand what sarcasm means, I was not suprised he flipped green as I considered him green from an early stage and the way he acting subsequently didnt change that perception.
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 19 2010 03:17 GMT
#1365
this is totally seperate from the game but your not being unable to understand a simple sarcastic comment is rlly bugging me OpZ, is it really that difficult to grasp?
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 19 2010 03:45 GMT
#1373
Yes I had other options to vote for, but bills change to voting me at the last minute and trying to get a bandwagon starting on me annoyed me, specially as we had PM'd each other alot and he made it seem like he considered me green, so when he switched I voted for him. As for better people I could have voted for I agree (not that it would have made a difference) In fact I sepcifically listed 4 people who I considered, and still consider likely to be mafia. Foolishness, D3, 10F and Versatile.


It looks like our behind the scenes people are going to win this game for us anyway which is both good and bad, good because it sucks when the mafia wins but bad because it feels like I haven't been able to even be a part of this game. The elitism in mafia is kinda sickening, people like L being overly forceful of their opinions and BC//Incog and L as well just simply taking over things entirely. Obviously good strategy as from reading L's post seems an easy win is incoming, but as far as everyone acting together and enjoying the game//participating it sucks.

In future I am never voting for a veteran to go into office, this game has taught me that much.
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 19 2010 03:52 GMT
#1377
L I publically roleclaimed earlier in this very thread, I am Townie and the only PM roleclaim I have given was to BM which was:

yeah, ive been getting like 3 pms in the past minute.. lol

i'm green, too.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
I'm not certain that you are 100% prooved town from that but tbh I trusted you before that anyway

I'm Townie

Don't lynch me before DT checking please it would be a waste.
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 19 2010 03:55 GMT
#1378
Post above kinda left it ambiguous as to who wrote what

+ Show Spoiler +
From: Bill Murray [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: yo
Date: 3/16/10 10:49
yeah, ive been getting like 3 pms in the past minute.. lol

i'm green, too. (His response)

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
I'm not certain that you are 100% prooved town from that but tbh I trusted you before that anyway

I'm Townie (My message to him)
Reply
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 19 2010 17:57 GMT
#1401
On March 19 2010 12:57 L wrote:
Good lord I'm happy he's dead.



On March 20 2010 01:53 L wrote:
Good lord, of all people in this game YOU should know I'm legit.


Flamewheel I'm praying lightening will purge us of this blasphemy.
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 20 2010 16:15 GMT
#1432
Yay we win xD
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