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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 13 2010 23:10 GMT
#211
WTF is dis shiet.
Green again.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 14 2010 02:13 GMT
#284
On February 14 2010 10:58 Ver wrote:
Time to start things rolling. My primary suspect for the first lynch is Bloodyc0bbler.


I'm always up for seeing BC dead.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 14 2010 04:42 GMT
#402
On February 14 2010 13:17 citi.zen wrote:
All I can tell you is that, as a rule, I trust nobody, regardless of previous game history or in-game behavior.


I was going to abstain, like usual, but you have my vote.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 14 2010 04:42 GMT
#403
On February 14 2010 13:39 citi.zen wrote:
For those who know the history better: has Ace ever been mafia, in any game?


Yes, and he was killed right off the bat.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 14 2010 04:56 GMT
#412
On February 14 2010 13:48 Abenson wrote:
*lurks*
Can't think of any intelligent things to say/contribute :D


This, and only posting "HAIL ACE" everywhere.

...If I were Mayor, I would just lynch you first.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 16 2010 21:49 GMT
#1434
On February 16 2010 20:02 Ver wrote:
A few things to address:

-Quit spamming the thread. This is the most active game ever and it's seriously hindering the ability of a) reading important posts (they get buried) and b) forcing people to be accountable (accusations get buried). We seriously should start enforcing a rule (as players, not as host at least for this game) to ban 1 liners and any low content posts.

-My accusation of Empyrean was not final, it was a setup. He messed up but he had a chance to prove himself, which was not really granted given his and my inactivity. Rarely is it feasible to be able to declare someone mafia by analysis without any kind of response. This is why it is critical that when someone is accused with serious evidence backing it that we make them accountable and not just let them brush it off and ignore it.

It's astonishing despite how enormous this thread is, a large number of people have said virtually nothing or nothing of importance. More attention needs to be brought to light on this, as these people are seriously crippling our ability to gather information. I'm sure some of them are simply put off by how large this thread is since some people insist on spamming useless posts over and over again. We need to force these people to start talking and get real information out there.

I went through the thread and compiled a 'useless list' of people who haven't made any serious contribution this game. A certain few are not there for various reasons, though it is possible I may have forgotten some. If you're on this list, better start posting and giving the best contribution you can if you want to help the town win.


Phrujbaz
quickstriker
shikyo
Opz
Decaf
amber
Xelin
Nikoner
tree.hugger
MasterDana
JohnnySpazz
Ohn
Tredmasta
l10f
Faronel
Nemy
Shockeyy
Scamp
Cynanmachae
Sidesprang
Fishball
Abenson

If you feel you are on this list unjustly, prove me wrong about your uselessness.


Me jumping into the middle of this mess is not going to happen.
Never have in previous games, and never will.
I don't speak for others, but take it or leave it.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 17 2010 18:43 GMT
#1625
Do you like it ?
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 17 2010 18:54 GMT
#1627
A fan drawing of Ouka Shichibukai (王下七武海) from One Piece.

Here is one of the drawings.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 17 2010 20:06 GMT
#1643
On February 18 2010 04:51 LucasWoJ wrote:
Cut it out opz and fishball. If anything, respond to citizen's post


Maybe I've missed it, but what is there to respond?

...and what do you mean cut it out? Someone asked about my profile, I responded. Compared to the non-game related shit the other guys dished out in the past 82 pages, sure.

Yes I've been reading the thread a lot, as I've taken this entire week off work to watch Olympics, so I'm checking this thread very often.

Also, a lot of you guys seems to not remember there are two Mafia families in this game. If I were you, I would not do anything and let it all play out.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 19 2010 01:27 GMT
#1741
No surprises here. Move along.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 19 2010 03:04 GMT
#1755
Negative + Negative = Positive, no?
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 20 2010 08:45 GMT
#1837
On February 20 2010 15:45 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 11:21 meeple wrote:
On February 20 2010 11:16 Ver wrote:
Relevant info:

I talked to Nemy last night. He had a bomb on bill murray from day 1 then planted one on me, but then roleclaimed to me. he removed the bomb on me, put it on dr h, and then died. Both bomb deaths are from him.

Shikyo did not roleclaim, frankly I don't even know if he planted a bomb given his activity. 1 mafia kill for sure overlapped with Nemy's bombs (most probable on Dr H). Either Shikyo's bombs overlapped, were blocked, or he didn't place any (most likely).

This is why you roleclaim though, so we can avoid pointless death's like shikyo's.

As for today's lynch, Tree Hugger sounds like the best bet for now.


What's the reason for lynching tree.hugger? You never got around to do that analysis


I personally find the lack of a single relevant clue pretty convincing, myself.


You do realize with 15 mafia members left, not all of them have been pointed out with clues.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 20 2010 11:51 GMT
#1840
Ah, thanks for bringing this up.
To me, this is as solid as any clue would get.
I will be voting for johnnyspazz.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 20 2010 20:12 GMT
#1864
On February 21 2010 02:35 johnnyspazz wrote:
If you guys think I'm mafia, I wouldn't waste a lynch on me. Instead you guys should find a bigger target to lynch and just let the other mafia hit me.


This is pretty much saying "yeah I'm mafia, but you guys should kill my superiors/the other family members instead of me".

I know some of you guys are onto tree.hugger, but might also want to consider johnnyspazz.
It's basically a choice between behavioral analysis and clue analysis.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 20 2010 20:17 GMT
#1865
Would also want to note the following from the voting thread:

On February 20 2010 15:37 johnnyspazz wrote:
I vote for tree.hugger


On February 20 2010 16:28 johnnyspazz wrote:
i change my vote to Ver


- Ver suggests to lynch tree.hugger.
- johnnyspazz votes for tree.hugger.
- 50 minutes later johnnyspazz changes his vote to Ver.

It could be staged, but this just doesn't make sense.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 20 2010 20:49 GMT
#1869
I wouldn't say Scamp isn't a candidate due to the sewage clue, but if you guys genuinely think it is better than johnnyspazz, where an entire paragraph of clues matches up, you are either:

- Naive
- In the same family with johnnyspazz, and wants the other family member to be lynched instead.

Either way, if we hit a red for our lynch, I'm happy. Although it is ideal to keep both family members count close.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 20 2010 21:07 GMT
#1870
And now this happens. How oh so convenient.

On February 21 2010 04:25 johnnyspazz wrote:
i change my vote to Scamp

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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 20 2010 21:32 GMT
#1874
On February 21 2010 06:22 Versatile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2010 02:24 Foolishness wrote:
On February 20 2010 15:50 tree.hugger wrote:
My activity is pretty easily explained, I'm currently in a production of Marat/Sade which is now in tech week. I have barely enough time to read this thread, let alone do the wonderful clue and behavioral analysis that this game has shown so far.

Doesn't mean I'm not happy to see such a bountiful harvest of red, due to the diligent labor this thread has produced.

NOBODY CARES

The very least you could do is to try to defend yourself here. Ver has posted ample evidence indicating how suspicious you are based on your behavior, and your retaliation is "oh sorry i'm so inactive waa waa". Guess what? NOBODY CARES! You have yet to deny any claim that you are mafia. Considering Ver has the inside scoop on the town it's much more sensible we listen to him at this point.

I was hoping that somewhat else would be observant enough, but since everyone playing seems to have the attention span of a four year old: a bodyguard is dead!. What does this mean? One of the mafia substituted a member in. This could mean a variety of things we must look out for. We don't know which family substituted the member in, and it's very possible that even more of the bodyguards are mafia.


I'm glad someone else saw this!!

The rules say the Mayor can substitute their family members for BGs, and if you look @ the first post, there are 3/4 of BGs left, but no blues are marked as BGs.

any answer for this, redtooth?

also, my top suspect for now is L. in the beginning, he was trying to attribute clues to ace and Dr. H was backing him up on this; lo and behold, ace is green and Dr. H is red.


Which adds up to my posts above, and their voting pattern.

On February 21 2010 05:49 Fishball wrote:
- Naive
- In the same family with johnnyspazz, and wants the other family member to be lynched instead.

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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 20 2010 21:43 GMT
#1876
If I were to take a stab at the 3 primary suspects right now (tree.hugger, johnnyspazz, Scamp), this is how I would see it.

0% for least convincing, 100% for very convincing

tree.hugger (0%? Clues, 70% Behavioral)
johnnyspazz (90% Clues, 80% Behavioral)
Scamp (60% Clues, 40% Behavioral) Maybe 90% Behavioral for L


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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 20 2010 21:56 GMT
#1879
You really want Scamp dead. I've already brought up all the arguments above, so I'll let everyone judge for themselves.

We should have voted for double lynch the other Day. It is already too late for this upcoming lynch.
Regardless, I'll vote for the next cycle.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 21 2010 21:30 GMT
#2004
You guys are hilarious.
Typical Mafia thread situation, and I'm never going to stick my head in.

We'll see what happens after today lynch. Things might start to crumble apart... very fast.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 22 2010 00:02 GMT
#2014
We aren't going to get double lynch through...
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 22 2010 00:21 GMT
#2025
On February 22 2010 06:33 citi.zen wrote:
The only way anything is crumbling is if Very is red. Otherwise the town has won, and this game is pretty boring. Noyhing else worth saying.


Well apparently "they" lynched a medic.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 22 2010 00:26 GMT
#2028
Regardless, both families should have a good idea whom their targets are right now.
Gambino needs some work to do.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 22 2010 00:34 GMT
#2032
On February 22 2010 09:23 Caller wrote:
see L, I told you that he had nothing to do with me -_-

This also means for you townies that Ver is basically innocent and now we're down to 2 KP and down 2 members. Awesome. Not to mention I gave myself away, which is going to bring us down even more -_-.

When I was talking about balance of power the entire game, it wasn't a bad idea for town to listen to what I had to say -_-

Although you guys should probably get the bodyguards to roleclaim, seeing as how the mayor was townie. If we get all the bodyguards you might find a Sumiyoshi there. If not then you have confirmed townies.


In the very beginning, I've already told people in MSN, PM's, it is best to keep both mafia family member count the same. This is coming from me, a green townie, aka Cannon Fodder.

After Ver called off the double lynch and people followed, it was a big WTF moment for me. Although he said later it was a mistake, it was already too late as some people never put their votes back.

Now, the situation is quite sticky. We'll have to see who is left after next Day.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 22 2010 00:38 GMT
#2034
On February 22 2010 09:30 Versatile wrote:
so L pushes for ace's death, ace = green.

L aligns himself with Dr. H and Dr. H = mafia.

L pushes for redtooth's death, and redtooth = medic.

wtf, are you people blind? eff clues, LOOK @ BEHAVIOR.

this only reinforces that the other players he was pushing for lynching (chez, caller, ver) are more than likely innocent.


Just to be fair, L pushing for Redtooth's death had nothing to do with clues. It was your so called "behavioral" analysis.

If you want to talk about clues, we have johnnyspazz, which his behavioral analysis also matches up as mafia.

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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 22 2010 01:03 GMT
#2044
On February 22 2010 09:46 Versatile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2010 09:38 Fishball wrote:
On February 22 2010 09:30 Versatile wrote:
so L pushes for ace's death, ace = green.

L aligns himself with Dr. H and Dr. H = mafia.

L pushes for redtooth's death, and redtooth = medic.

wtf, are you people blind? eff clues, LOOK @ BEHAVIOR.

this only reinforces that the other players he was pushing for lynching (chez, caller, ver) are more than likely innocent.


Just to be fair, L pushing for Redtooth's death had nothing to do with clues. It was your so called "behavioral" analysis.

If you want to talk about clues, we have johnnyspazz, which his behavioral analysis also matches up as mafia.



what behavior analysis of mine are you referring to?


I'm not referring to your behavior analysis, but your quote.
You said "eff clues, look @ behavior"
Well somewhat ironically, people followed L because they thought his behavioral analysis was correct.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 22 2010 01:07 GMT
#2045
On February 22 2010 09:54 l10f wrote:
What part of the "VER HAS DT'S BEHIND HIM SO GO WITH HIS LYNCH" did you guys not understand?


Lets guess how many among the 16 people that voted for redtooth is Mafia.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 22 2010 01:19 GMT
#2048
On February 22 2010 10:11 l10f wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2010 10:07 Fishball wrote:
On February 22 2010 09:54 l10f wrote:
What part of the "VER HAS DT'S BEHIND HIM SO GO WITH HIS LYNCH" did you guys not understand?


Lets guess how many among the 16 people that voted for redtooth is Mafia.


Why would Gambino not lynch QS?


Just a random question, seeing some of the people on the list were already brought up.

On February 22 2010 10:12 johnnyspazz wrote:
yeah seriously i would want qs dead


Sure you do...
So please tell us why you voted for redtooth
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 22 2010 06:16 GMT
#2078
Too many dead posting.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 23 2010 02:06 GMT
#2132
On February 23 2010 10:32 Abenson wrote:
Citizen was mafia?!
He was so helpful o.o


On February 23 2010 10:39 johnnyspazz wrote:
ya man you raelly helped us gud


You guys are either dumb, or think everyone else is dumb. -_-
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 23 2010 02:08 GMT
#2133
On February 23 2010 10:40 Iaaan wrote:
PM I got from Ver before he died:


So I dont know if l10f told you or not but you were rolechecked. In case I die tonight here is my data that I sent to you and him.



Here's the poor level of info I have:

Roleclaimed BGs:

Malongo
Versatile
Midori *dead GF*

Roleclaimed DTs:

You (l01f)

Roleclaimed Medics:

Redtooth *dead*

Have not roleclaimed (remaining blues are here):

Vivi
QS
Dozko
Nikoner
Tree Hugger
Shockeyy
Meeple
Zona (dead vet)
Opz
Sidesprang
Caller, red
Ohn
Abenson
Cynanmachae

Hatters are all dead. No vets. laaan we both know is confirmed green. The rest claimed green.

My suspects:

Sumiyoshi:

Quickstriker
Foolishness
citizen (dead gambino)
lucaswoj (dead townie)
Caller
Johnnyspazz

Gambino:

Opz
tredmasta?

Uncertain but likely:

scamp
Shockeyy
Decafchicken
cynanmachae
tree.hugger, good rolecheck target, it's possible he's stupid blue
Hobbes
vivi


Chezinu 'told' me he checked hobbes/vivi and got both as greens. That might be possible, dunno what he's doing. He didn't 'tell' me his day 3 check.

At some point it's going to be worth saving the rolechecked guys for last to have any remaining medics protect them if necessary in worst case scenarios.

But basically we are playing blindfolded with our hands tied behind our back after nobody has claimed and the town lynched 1/3 people who did claim.




I added stuff in brackets.

Posting it because I'm too bad/lazy at this game to do anything useful with it, and there isn't really anyone to coordinate with anymore, plus I'm not going to have any computer access until this friday.

But Gambinos should stop sucking, and hopefully the 1/2 medics/Dts left can do some magic.


Umm, why the **** did you just post this for?
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 23 2010 02:40 GMT
#2144
Everything else aside, there is only one thing the Town and Gambino Family should do right now: Lynch a confirmed Sumiyoshi, QuickStriker.

Lynching L due to being mad at him won't help us. Unless he is a Sumiyoshi Mafia, we're just digging deeper into our graves.

Right now, the people who have voted for L, are either confirmed Mafia, or prime suspects. If you guys just want to blindly bandwagon this, then I've got nothing else to say.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 23 2010 02:43 GMT
#2145
Also, Double Lynch should be voted for the next day. We have plenty of targets.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 23 2010 03:32 GMT
#2154
On February 23 2010 12:20 QuickStriker wrote:
Hi everyone! It seems like this game is progressing pretty fast and I just haven't been able to keep up with the pace. However, it seems that I come at the wrong moment which is where I am about to be killed off again... T_T

I just don't get how I'm always the target... Unfortunately I'm still busy with my academics where my aim is for 4.0 this semester (pretty darn good stage atm too), trying to set up my radio show up and running (see my blogs) and also getting other phases open in my life. As thus, I've asked the admin to replace me but it seems it's too late for that as well... =/

Well, you guys may think I am mafia or something and it seems whatever I say, you guys will deny, refuse to believe and still vote for me. I haven't contribute much to the game and I do apologize for that and also apologize my lack of appearances for like I stated the reasons above. Since I'm going to die anyway despite my denial of being mafia and possibly be miller for all I see upon myself is an innocent townie, I will make my final statement on my following post which is utterly pointless except just stating a few remarks about why I could not be mafia though that probably won't matter and who I think is mafia in my opinion. So please wait another 10 minutes after this post since I'll just type up something quick.


Not needed.

On February 21 2010 11:50 Ver wrote:
A DT (the one who checked me actually) inspected Quickstriker last night and found that he is Sumiyoshi.


With the expense of a dead Vet and dead DT, you are our best shot.
If you ended up Miller, then we might as well still beat you up IRL for it, as you haven't done jack.
No one cares about your "personal life" here. You joined the game.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 23 2010 04:05 GMT
#2159
If you can get yourself Mod-killed right here, right now, it would certainly help.
If you can't, like mentioned above, it just wouldn't make sense not to kill you, especially with a confirmed Sumiyoshi tag. Even there is a chance you could be a Miller, too much have already been invested. (Dead Vet, Dead DT)

Worse case scenario you did turn up Miller, it is still not the end, yet.

Right now, Town and Gambino have a common interest; To decrease Sumiyoshi's member count. If "we" fail to do so, then Sumiyoshi would just extend their lead in this game.

Sumiyoshi I can understand, but if Gambino is just killing town for shits and giggles, then well, this game is kinda meaningless as they are not playing to win.

Right now we have a few confirmed Mafia members and prime suspects running around. The Town might not know what family they are from, but both Mafia families should have a good idea who the others are. Should we all just play dumb?
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 23 2010 04:14 GMT
#2161
On February 23 2010 13:05 Fishball wrote:
Sumiyoshi I can understand, but if Gambino is just killing town for shits and giggles, then well, this game is kinda meaningless as they are not playing to win.


Just wanted to elaborate on this a bit more.

Gambino can argue they are playing for their victory indeed, as they just want to kill off Town first and go head to head with Sumiyoshi. Well, this is definitely possible, but is it the best way to do so? After already down 3 more members than Sumiyoshi and 1 KP less?

Another possible scenario, assuming Gambino and Sumiyoshi are temporarily united to kill off the remaning 15 townies. Is it guaranteed that one would not back stab the other? Especially with one party already having a clear advantage?
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 23 2010 05:14 GMT
#2169
On February 23 2010 13:50 sidesprang wrote:
why dont we vote for L? If quickstriker does not vote he will get modkilled and we kill L.
And its not like we will lower Sumiyoshi KP if quickstriker dies anyhow.

I will await some arguments before i vote, but for now i think this is the best plan.


Few questions you should ask yourself. Actually, all townies should ask themselves the following.

- What prevents QS from jumping on last second to vote? Do you trust him?
- L lead to redtooth's death, does that mean he is a sure Mafia? Is he Sumiyoshi? Is he Gambino?
- Compared to a confirmed Sumiyoshi DT check along with a dead DT and dead Vet vouching for the QS lynch, despite the possibility of a miller, is L a better lynching candidate?

I've already brought up all my arguments in my previous posts quite a few times, so I don't want to repeat myself.
In my honest opinion, L can very possibly be Mafia. It all boils down to which move next is your best move.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 23 2010 05:18 GMT
#2170
On February 23 2010 14:06 johnnyspazz wrote:
if this is true then we need to find a new target to lynch, hopefully someone thats on sumiyoshi
i choose you Caller!


Caller already claimed Gambino.
You also claim Gambino.

You're so obviously trying to stir shit up, that's why in reply to your pm to me, I think you are Sumiyoshi.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 23 2010 05:29 GMT
#2172
If there was a bash-your-face button, I would totally use it on you and Abenson.

I wonder how many active DT's we have left. Hopefully they still have their role check...
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 23 2010 14:09 GMT
#2181
On February 23 2010 17:47 Malongo wrote:
A) Vote quickstricker today .
B) I ask Caller to not to vote if he is town alligned. You see, Ver and i had doubts about him and at this point he has been useless. This way he can clear up next suspect and let us move on the list
C) Vote for double lynch.


Erm, he has already publicly admit he is Mafia. Gambino to be specific. Whether it is a lie or not, is another story.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 24 2010 02:23 GMT
#2240
ShoCkeyy was brought up before already.
It solidifies his position as one of the prime suspects.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 24 2010 02:55 GMT
#2245
On February 24 2010 11:27 johnnyspazz wrote:
would you say that l10f's killer could also be shockeyy? who else could it be?


If you want vague connections, [NyC]HoBbes could work.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 24 2010 03:03 GMT
#2248
On February 24 2010 11:58 johnnyspazz wrote:
how is that a vague connection? l10f died by electricity and shockeyy is shockeyy


Is your reading comprehension that bad?
I said, Hobbes that I brought up could be a vague connection.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 24 2010 04:26 GMT
#2255
On February 24 2010 12:19 Malongo wrote:
So i came up to this:
It is for the best interest of the town to lynch tree.hugger today. First of he was to be lynched last night but "somehow" the voting was turned into redtooth impalation. So given that Quickstricker claimed that he wont vote today to force a modkill it is fair to assume that:

- Town has 3 kills total (counting 1 today 2 tomorrow)
- If we kill quickstricker we lose the chance to take his claim to our advantage
- If we lynch tree.hugger and quickstricker votes we can lynch him tomorrow.
- We can take a lot of information about tree.huggers allignment. (namely L, decafchicken, amber and laaan, players that look mafia to me).

Some things:
-Why hasnt gambino hit some gambino fake claimers¿ Guys claiming to be gambino CANT be Yumiyumi because gambino family would have killed them already.
-Where are our clue analizers¿

So please lets change our kill tonight. We can get Quickstricker tomorrow if he votes, but we win an extra kill (and it would be great if it is a miller kill) by killing someone else.

Im changing to tree.hugger and i expect a lot of resistance from the Yumiyumi family


I am re-quoting myself on page 109.

On February 23 2010 13:14 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 13:05 Fishball wrote:
Sumiyoshi I can understand, but if Gambino is just killing town for shits and giggles, then well, this game is kinda meaningless as they are not playing to win.


Just wanted to elaborate on this a bit more.

Gambino can argue they are playing for their victory indeed, as they just want to kill off Town first and go head to head with Sumiyoshi. Well, this is definitely possible, but is it the best way to do so? After already down 3 more members than Sumiyoshi and 1 KP less?

Another possible scenario, assuming Gambino and Sumiyoshi are temporarily united to kill off the remaning 15 townies. Is it guaranteed that one would not back stab the other? Especially with one party already having a clear advantage?



Seeing that you seemed to miss "certain" parts of the thread.

On February 23 2010 23:09 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 17:47 Malongo wrote:
A) Vote quickstricker today .
B) I ask Caller to not to vote if he is town alligned. You see, Ver and i had doubts about him and at this point he has been useless. This way he can clear up next suspect and let us move on the list
C) Vote for double lynch.


Erm, he has already publicly admit he is Mafia. Gambino to be specific. Whether it is a lie or not, is another story.

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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 24 2010 04:30 GMT
#2256
Ah fuck me, I meant to quote this.

On February 23 2010 14:14 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 13:50 sidesprang wrote:
why dont we vote for L? If quickstriker does not vote he will get modkilled and we kill L.
And its not like we will lower Sumiyoshi KP if quickstriker dies anyhow.

I will await some arguments before i vote, but for now i think this is the best plan.


Few questions you should ask yourself. Actually, all townies should ask themselves the following.

- What prevents QS from jumping on last second to vote? Do you trust him?
- L lead to redtooth's death, does that mean he is a sure Mafia? Is he Sumiyoshi? Is he Gambino?
- Compared to a confirmed Sumiyoshi DT check along with a dead DT and dead Vet vouching for the QS lynch, despite the possibility of a miller, is L a better lynching candidate?

I've already brought up all my arguments in my previous posts quite a few times, so I don't want to repeat myself.
In my honest opinion, L can very possibly be Mafia. It all boils down to which move next is your best move.

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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 24 2010 04:36 GMT
#2259
On February 24 2010 13:30 Scamp wrote:
I'm glad to see there isn't a real push toward me, as it's a huge waste of time. Only person that seems to be serious about it is L, and he's clearly not sure that I'm mafia. According to him, it's either me or Chez, and Chez claimed DT so I should be hit first. According to everyone else who mentioned me, there's no proof of which family I am if I am mafia.

I like how everyone I challenged to find a link between myself and anyone else in the game has shut up on the topic. I say this to everyone: Going after me, for any reason, is a waste of time.


There is no real push towards you is because we have more "obvious" candidates running around.
A few have already brought up the sewage clue and you. Whether it is indeed you or not, that is not point for now.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 24 2010 04:38 GMT
#2260
Ok, these typos/mistakes makes me want to edit my posts -_-.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 24 2010 04:56 GMT
#2265
On February 24 2010 13:45 johnnyspazz wrote:
Fishball, do you trust QuickStriker to mod-kill himself?


I don't want to reply anymore, or else I'll start breaking down in tears.

機歪
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 24 2010 05:22 GMT
#2266
Just for the record, from now on, keep a close eye on those who tries to create another bandwagon away from the QS vote, or change to vote for another person that has no chance to be lynched. Everything that needs to be said, has already been said.

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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 25 2010 00:11 GMT
#2292
/Flex

Chances are I will die tonight.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 25 2010 00:12 GMT
#2295
On a side note, nice try QS, lying your way out.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 25 2010 00:21 GMT
#2299
On February 25 2010 09:19 L wrote:
Also, madnessman somehow voted without voting in the vote thread.

Wow there's some bad news blues going on in vote tallying town.


Read the voting thread, I replied there.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 25 2010 00:24 GMT
#2301
You still need to die for your sins.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 25 2010 01:02 GMT
#2308
On February 25 2010 09:27 Vivi57 wrote:
medics should try to prot gambino tonight

this means one of them should prot caller


I'm not arguing that if or if not he is Gambino, but this can't be confirmed.

On February 25 2010 09:32 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2010 09:24 L wrote:
On February 25 2010 09:21 Fishball wrote:
On February 25 2010 09:19 L wrote:
Also, madnessman somehow voted without voting in the vote thread.

Wow there's some bad news blues going on in vote tallying town.


Read the voting thread, I replied there.

So you did.

If we have any medics left, I need to have a chats with you :3.

lol L how you dare. You see theres no way to think you are not mafia¿ Dont trust this guy townies.


Personally, I never trusted him; Never voted for redtooth, debated johnyspazz (which is now a confirmed mafia) over Scamp.

To be honest, I trust no one unless the person is dead.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 25 2010 01:08 GMT
#2310
Trust is a relevant thing.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 25 2010 03:47 GMT
#2343
On February 25 2010 11:32 L wrote:
A big thanks to the two medics that contacted me. Cynan and Versatile are going to be protected tonight. Just a heads up.


Haha.
Ok, where should I start...

If what L says is true, then the two medics are either huge idiots, or he thinks the rest of us (both Town and Mafia) are idiots.

Once again, it is "ask-yourself-some-questions" time.

- L is already guilty for redtooth's death, whom is a Medic. A lot of people would like to see him dead, both Mafia and Town. Why on earth would someone, specifically Medics, would want to roleclaim to him?

- L called out and asked Medics to PM him. Two hours later, he claims that he got the Medics. Not one, but two. Isn't that a little too fast, too furious, too many?

- L claims Cynan and Versatile would be protected. This is just an unbelievably wrong in so many ways.

Let's assume two Medics did role claim to L, a shady character, within two hours. He then announces the two candidates to be protected. First off, why CynanMachae and Versatile? Both players, especially Cynan haven't been particularly active, or to word it bluntly, productive. Why them?
Secondly, who would hit a target if they are protected? (Unless Mafia really wants you dead and blow multiple hits). Why announce them? Just to create a diversion?
Thirdly, just all the above. Does this picture makes any sense at all?

-----

Now keep in mind, L is the Pardoner. No one can touch him unless all bodyguards are dead. The only thing he would "fear" is being lynched.
I see Malongo and some others are already proposing lynch candidates. I personally am wanting to hold off proposing anyone until further evaluation. But after L made this stunt, and considering his previous history, this is just getting flat out dumb. I was the one who suggested to stop the L lynch bandwagon, but now, he would be one of my top picks for our double lynch.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 25 2010 04:24 GMT
#2352
Heads Up.

This is what I'm proposing.
Regardless of clues, if johnnyspazz survives Day 5, he should be one of our double lynch candidates for Night 5.

- He is a self proclaimed Gambino, but I'm second guessing him. He has been outspoken for the past few days, claiming "Gambino" on a lot of his posts.
- When I first debated with L, to whether lynch johnnyspazz or Scamp a few days ago, L pm'd me and tried to convince me those "Sonic the Hedgehog" clues were not directed johnnyspazz. It was a relatively suspicious move to me, as those clues are just rock solid. An entire paragraph was dedicated to that killer, not just a single line.

Clue:
Meanwhile, the second Mafioso made his way all the way across town to a small apartment on the edge of the city wall. Although the road to the residence was filled with many twists and turns, the Mafioso was able to reach the apartment without too much loss of time. The Mafioso knocked on the door, waiting for a response. Nervous, Zato-1 pulled out his shotgun, ready to shoot the intruder if he proved to be a menace. But Zato-1 could not have been more prepared for what happened next. As he opened the door, he was immediately knocked down and impaled by an array of sharp objects. The intruder was nowhere to be seen, although neighbors who have walked by the now open door have noticed a hole in the wall directly behind where Zato-1 had been killed.


- Caller has also claimed Gambino and have "argued" against johnnyspazz that one of them is lying. However there is no way to prove who is telling the lie, or if it was all just a show and they are in the same family. This is all irrelevant for now.

If I were Sumiyoshi, I would kill every single Gambino I can come across. Sumiyoshi still has one extra KP advantage over Gambino, and god knows when they would lose this advantage (They currently have 7 members; With 6 members, KP becomes 2). It would be unwise to hit the Town, unless they have no Gambino targets at all. Town has no Mad Hatters left, there are no vigilantes in this game, and there are 15 of us left. The only way town could be a threat, would be through lynching. Currently having the lead in the game, would Sumiyoshi rather kill town? or kill Gambino, to further extend their lead? Will Town always get a Sumiyoshi lynch? I would certainly hope so, but that would be unrealistic.

So back to my original proposal, lynch johnnyspazz if he survives Day 5.

-----

I would like to see myself live through Day 5, so I can see who is alive and who isn't and make changes accordingly, but if I die, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

I'm also going to be upfront and bring up a flaw in my proposal. If we are for sure going to lynch johnnyspazz, who might actually Gambino, would Sumiyoshi, leave him alive on purpose just to let us kill him instead? I don't know.
All I can say is, by judging johnnyspazz's survival rate so far, his behavior, and all the points I have brought up above, I like my chances.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 26 2010 00:22 GMT
#2428
So the KP's are even up again.
Like I said, I'm not surprised that I'm dead, but haha @ Miller.

I would have lots to say if I weren't dead.

Good luck town. Think twice and play smart.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
February 28 2010 00:11 GMT
#2570
I'm laughing under my face palm.
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 01 2010 04:23 GMT
#2649
All I can do is laugh... and laugh again, and again...
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 03 2010 00:49 GMT
#2798
How can you NOT see this coming
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