TL Mafia XVIII

On February 14 2010 10:58 Ver wrote:
Time to start things rolling. My primary suspect for the first lynch is Bloodyc0bbler.

On February 14 2010 13:17 citi.zen wrote:
All I can tell you is that, as a rule, I trust nobody, regardless of previous game history or in-game behavior.

On February 14 2010 13:39 citi.zen wrote:
For those who know the history better: has Ace ever been mafia, in any game?

On February 14 2010 13:48 Abenson wrote:
*lurks*
Can't think of any intelligent things to say/contribute :D

On February 16 2010 20:02 Ver wrote:
A few things to address:

-Quit spamming the thread. This is the most active game ever and it's seriously hindering the ability of a) reading important posts (they get buried) and b) forcing people to be accountable (accusations get buried). We seriously should start enforcing a rule (as players, not as host at least for this game) to ban 1 liners and any low content posts.

-My accusation of Empyrean was not final, it was a setup. He messed up but he had a chance to prove himself, which was not really granted given his and my inactivity. Rarely is it feasible to be able to declare someone mafia by analysis without any kind of response. This is why it is critical that when someone is accused with serious evidence backing it that we make them accountable and not just let them brush it off and ignore it.

It's astonishing despite how enormous this thread is, a large number of people have said virtually nothing or nothing of importance. More attention needs to be brought to light on this, as these people are seriously crippling our ability to gather information. I'm sure some of them are simply put off by how large this thread is since some people insist on spamming useless posts over and over again. We need to force these people to start talking and get real information out there.

I went through the thread and compiled a 'useless list' of people who haven't made any serious contribution this game. A certain few are not there for various reasons, though it is possible I may have forgotten some. If you're on this list, better start posting and giving the best contribution you can if you want to help the town win.


Phrujbaz
quickstriker
shikyo
Opz
Decaf
amber
Xelin
Nikoner
tree.hugger
MasterDana
JohnnySpazz
Ohn
Tredmasta
l10f
Faronel
Nemy
Shockeyy
Scamp
Cynanmachae
Sidesprang
Fishball
Abenson

If you feel you are on this list unjustly, prove me wrong about your uselessness.

On February 18 2010 04:51 LucasWoJ wrote:
Cut it out opz and fishball. If anything, respond to citizen's post

On February 20 2010 15:45 tree.hugger wrote:


I personally find the lack of a single relevant clue pretty convincing, myself.

On February 21 2010 02:35 johnnyspazz wrote:
If you guys think I'm mafia, I wouldn't waste a lynch on me. Instead you guys should find a bigger target to lynch and just let the other mafia hit me.

On February 20 2010 15:37 johnnyspazz wrote:
I vote for tree.hugger

On February 20 2010 16:28 johnnyspazz wrote:
i change my vote to Ver

On February 21 2010 04:25 johnnyspazz wrote:
i change my vote to Scamp

On February 21 2010 06:22 Versatile wrote:


I'm glad someone else saw this!!

The rules say the Mayor can substitute their family members for BGs, and if you look @ the first post, there are 3/4 of BGs left, but no blues are marked as BGs.

any answer for this, redtooth?

also, my top suspect for now is L. in the beginning, he was trying to attribute clues to ace and Dr. H was backing him up on this; lo and behold, ace is green and Dr. H is red.

On February 21 2010 05:49 Fishball wrote:
- Naive
- In the same family with johnnyspazz, and wants the other family member to be lynched instead.

On February 22 2010 06:33 citi.zen wrote:
The only way anything is crumbling is if Very is red. Otherwise the town has won, and this game is pretty boring. Noyhing else worth saying.

On February 22 2010 09:23 Caller wrote:
see L, I told you that he had nothing to do with me -_-

This also means for you townies that Ver is basically innocent and now we're down to 2 KP and down 2 members. Awesome. Not to mention I gave myself away, which is going to bring us down even more -_-.

When I was talking about balance of power the entire game, it wasn't a bad idea for town to listen to what I had to say -_-

Although you guys should probably get the bodyguards to roleclaim, seeing as how the mayor was townie. If we get all the bodyguards you might find a Sumiyoshi there. If not then you have confirmed townies.

On February 22 2010 09:30 Versatile wrote:
so L pushes for ace's death, ace = green.

L aligns himself with Dr. H and Dr. H = mafia.

L pushes for redtooth's death, and redtooth = medic.

wtf, are you people blind? eff clues, LOOK @ BEHAVIOR.

this only reinforces that the other players he was pushing for lynching (chez, caller, ver) are more than likely innocent.

On February 22 2010 09:46 Versatile wrote:


what behavior analysis of mine are you referring to?

On February 22 2010 09:54 l10f wrote:
What part of the "VER HAS DT'S BEHIND HIM SO GO WITH HIS LYNCH" did you guys not understand?

On February 22 2010 10:11 l10f wrote:


Why would Gambino not lynch QS?

On February 22 2010 10:12 johnnyspazz wrote:
yeah seriously i would want qs dead

On February 23 2010 10:32 Abenson wrote:
Citizen was mafia?!
He was so helpful o.o

On February 23 2010 10:39 johnnyspazz wrote:
ya man you raelly helped us gud

On February 23 2010 10:40 Iaaan wrote:
PM I got from Ver before he died:


So I dont know if l10f told you or not but you were rolechecked. In case I die tonight here is my data that I sent to you and him.



Here's the poor level of info I have:

Roleclaimed BGs:

Malongo
Versatile
Midori *dead GF*

Roleclaimed DTs:

You (l01f)

Roleclaimed Medics:

Redtooth *dead*

Have not roleclaimed (remaining blues are here):

Vivi
QS
Dozko
Nikoner
Tree Hugger
Shockeyy
Meeple
Zona (dead vet)
Opz
Sidesprang
Caller, red
Ohn
Abenson
Cynanmachae

Hatters are all dead. No vets. laaan we both know is confirmed green. The rest claimed green.

My suspects:

Sumiyoshi:

Quickstriker
Foolishness
citizen (dead gambino)
lucaswoj (dead townie)
Caller
Johnnyspazz

Gambino:

Opz
tredmasta?

Uncertain but likely:

scamp
Shockeyy
Decafchicken
cynanmachae
tree.hugger, good rolecheck target, it's possible he's stupid blue
Hobbes
vivi


Chezinu 'told' me he checked hobbes/vivi and got both as greens. That might be possible, dunno what he's doing. He didn't 'tell' me his day 3 check.

At some point it's going to be worth saving the rolechecked guys for last to have any remaining medics protect them if necessary in worst case scenarios.

But basically we are playing blindfolded with our hands tied behind our back after nobody has claimed and the town lynched 1/3 people who did claim.




I added stuff in brackets.

Posting it because I'm too bad/lazy at this game to do anything useful with it, and there isn't really anyone to coordinate with anymore, plus I'm not going to have any computer access until this friday.

But Gambinos should stop sucking, and hopefully the 1/2 medics/Dts left can do some magic.

On February 23 2010 12:20 QuickStriker wrote:
Hi everyone! It seems like this game is progressing pretty fast and I just haven't been able to keep up with the pace. However, it seems that I come at the wrong moment which is where I am about to be killed off again... T_T

I just don't get how I'm always the target... Unfortunately I'm still busy with my academics where my aim is for 4.0 this semester (pretty darn good stage atm too), trying to set up my radio show up and running (see my blogs) and also getting other phases open in my life. As thus, I've asked the admin to replace me but it seems it's too late for that as well... =/

Well, you guys may think I am mafia or something and it seems whatever I say, you guys will deny, refuse to believe and still vote for me. I haven't contribute much to the game and I do apologize for that and also apologize my lack of appearances for like I stated the reasons above. Since I'm going to die anyway despite my denial of being mafia and possibly be miller for all I see upon myself is an innocent townie, I will make my final statement on my following post which is utterly pointless except just stating a few remarks about why I could not be mafia though that probably won't matter and who I think is mafia in my opinion. So please wait another 10 minutes after this post since I'll just type up something quick.

On February 21 2010 11:50 Ver wrote:
A DT (the one who checked me actually) inspected Quickstriker last night and found that he is Sumiyoshi.

On February 23 2010 13:05 Fishball wrote:
Sumiyoshi I can understand, but if Gambino is just killing town for shits and giggles, then well, this game is kinda meaningless as they are not playing to win.

On February 23 2010 13:50 sidesprang wrote:
why dont we vote for L? If quickstriker does not vote he will get modkilled and we kill L.
And its not like we will lower Sumiyoshi KP if quickstriker dies anyhow.

I will await some arguments before i vote, but for now i think this is the best plan.

On February 23 2010 14:06 johnnyspazz wrote:
if this is true then we need to find a new target to lynch, hopefully someone thats on sumiyoshi
i choose you Caller!

On February 23 2010 17:47 Malongo wrote:
A) Vote quickstricker today .
B) I ask Caller to not to vote if he is town alligned. You see, Ver and i had doubts about him and at this point he has been useless. This way he can clear up next suspect and let us move on the list
C) Vote for double lynch.

On February 24 2010 11:27 johnnyspazz wrote:
would you say that l10f's killer could also be shockeyy? who else could it be?

On February 24 2010 11:58 johnnyspazz wrote:
how is that a vague connection? l10f died by electricity and shockeyy is shockeyy

On February 24 2010 12:19 Malongo wrote:
So i came up to this:
It is for the best interest of the town to lynch tree.hugger today. First of he was to be lynched last night but "somehow" the voting was turned into redtooth impalation. So given that Quickstricker claimed that he wont vote today to force a modkill it is fair to assume that:

- Town has 3 kills total (counting 1 today 2 tomorrow)
- If we kill quickstricker we lose the chance to take his claim to our advantage
- If we lynch tree.hugger and quickstricker votes we can lynch him tomorrow.
- We can take a lot of information about tree.huggers allignment. (namely L, decafchicken, amber and laaan, players that look mafia to me).

Some things:
-Why hasnt gambino hit some gambino fake claimers¿ Guys claiming to be gambino CANT be Yumiyumi because gambino family would have killed them already.
-Where are our clue analizers¿

So please lets change our kill tonight. We can get Quickstricker tomorrow if he votes, but we win an extra kill (and it would be great if it is a miller kill) by killing someone else.

Im changing to tree.hugger and i expect a lot of resistance from the Yumiyumi family

On February 23 2010 13:14 Fishball wrote:


Just wanted to elaborate on this a bit more.

Gambino can argue they are playing for their victory indeed, as they just want to kill off Town first and go head to head with Sumiyoshi. Well, this is definitely possible, but is it the best way to do so? After already down 3 more members than Sumiyoshi and 1 KP less?

Another possible scenario, assuming Gambino and Sumiyoshi are temporarily united to kill off the remaning 15 townies. Is it guaranteed that one would not back stab the other? Especially with one party already having a clear advantage?

On February 23 2010 23:09 Fishball wrote:


Erm, he has already publicly admit he is Mafia. Gambino to be specific. Whether it is a lie or not, is another story.

On February 23 2010 14:14 Fishball wrote:


Few questions you should ask yourself. Actually, all townies should ask themselves the following.

- What prevents QS from jumping on last second to vote? Do you trust him?
- L lead to redtooth's death, does that mean he is a sure Mafia? Is he Sumiyoshi? Is he Gambino?
- Compared to a confirmed Sumiyoshi DT check along with a dead DT and dead Vet vouching for the QS lynch, despite the possibility of a miller, is L a better lynching candidate?

I've already brought up all my arguments in my previous posts quite a few times, so I don't want to repeat myself.
In my honest opinion, L can very possibly be Mafia. It all boils down to which move next is your best move.

On February 24 2010 13:30 Scamp wrote:
I'm glad to see there isn't a real push toward me, as it's a huge waste of time. Only person that seems to be serious about it is L, and he's clearly not sure that I'm mafia. According to him, it's either me or Chez, and Chez claimed DT so I should be hit first. According to everyone else who mentioned me, there's no proof of which family I am if I am mafia.

I like how everyone I challenged to find a link between myself and anyone else in the game has shut up on the topic. I say this to everyone: Going after me, for any reason, is a waste of time.

On February 24 2010 13:45 johnnyspazz wrote:
Fishball, do you trust QuickStriker to mod-kill himself?

On February 25 2010 09:19 L wrote:
Also, madnessman somehow voted without voting in the vote thread.

Wow there's some bad news blues going on in vote tallying town.

On February 25 2010 09:27 Vivi57 wrote:
medics should try to prot gambino tonight

this means one of them should prot caller

On February 25 2010 09:32 Malongo wrote:

lol L how you dare. You see theres no way to think you are not mafia¿ Dont trust this guy townies.

On February 25 2010 11:32 L wrote:
A big thanks to the two medics that contacted me. Cynan and Versatile are going to be protected tonight. Just a heads up.

Meanwhile, the second Mafioso made his way all the way across town to a small apartment on the edge of the city wall. Although the road to the residence was filled with many twists and turns, the Mafioso was able to reach the apartment without too much loss of time. The Mafioso knocked on the door, waiting for a response. Nervous, Zato-1 pulled out his shotgun, ready to shoot the intruder if he proved to be a menace. But Zato-1 could not have been more prepared for what happened next. As he opened the door, he was immediately knocked down and impaled by an array of sharp objects. The intruder was nowhere to be seen, although neighbors who have walked by the now open door have noticed a hole in the wall directly behind where Zato-1 had been killed.