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On March 01 2010 10:28 Vivi57 wrote:
ok, so right now we have:
5. johnnyspazz (gambino)
8. Vivi57
11. XeliN
16. dozko
19. ShoCkeyy
23. Chezinu (dt)
24. Scamp
29. ~OpZ~
30. sidesprang
33. ohN
34. Abenson
45. Versatile
47. Malongo (bg)
50. Foolishness
51. madnessman
i'm 100% sure i'm missing some information here because I've been lazy about following the thread, but even with this, 6/10 unconfirmed people are sumiyoshi (or 5 + the gf). Johnnyspaz should post the name of the other gambino alive so we can medic prot both of them and eliminate even one more person from the list
ermm, if it will help, i was outted as bg by iaan with ver's PM to him, like 50+ pages ago.
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ps: right now it's looking like i'm going to be voting for abenson and ~opz~.
i'll wait for more info/ town consensus before voting though.
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why are you screaming my name? that usually only happens in the bedroom, owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
but anyway, i voted for who i think is mafia, based on posts and behavior.
is there an issue?
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for the record, i also think xelin is mafia, and i'll switch my vote fro ~opz~ to him if that's how town is leaning.
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okay, well in interests of helping the town:
if malongo did indeed claim BG, he's definitely mafia and he needs to be one of our lynches. (please note here, the only person i called to be lynched multiple times was L, and lo and behlod, he was mafia).
basically, it's simple math: 18 roles left, 15 players in= 2 mafia claiming BG, 1 innocent BG= me.
as for our other lynch candidate:
1. madnessman: when's the last time he posted?
2. abenson
3.opz/ xelin
4. foolishness
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On March 02 2010 04:59 Scamp wrote:
Oh, and since I didn't ask directly, please explain why you think Abenson and Opz are worthy of your vote.
posts and behavior. i already said that.
listen, i have no use for clues, i don't really believe in them in general, and they are especially useless to me when i play on TL because it's as if you all have your own languages based on the games you play. i don't understand 90% the profiles.
....'cept dude with the invictus quote.
so, i base my analysis on behavior and lack of logic. that's how i catch mafia.
for example, no one was talking about lynching opz before i said i was going to vote for him. then vivi and foolishness to a far larger degree, come along and advocate for his lynching. foolishness took the bait and i find that suspicious.
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On March 02 2010 05:40 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2010 05:31 Versatile wrote:
okay, well in interests of helping the town:
if malongo did indeed claim BG, he's definitely mafia and he needs to be one of our lynches. (please note here, the only person i called to be lynched multiple times was L, and lo and behlod, he was mafia).
basically, it's simple math: 18 roles left, 15 players in= 2 mafia claiming BG, 1 innocent BG= me.
as for our other lynch candidate:
1. madnessman: when's the last time he posted?
2. abenson
3.opz/ xelin
4. foolishness Since you claim BG, do you want us to lynch you?
okay so let me make this clear one final time. it was not my CHOICE for my role to be claimed. i was outted. yes, i was, indeed, in the closet about my role. but since it's been put out there i'm not going to lie about or deny it.
if you all lynch me, well, c'est la vie. somehow, i do believe i will get over it.
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these were L's sumi suspects before he died. while he was mafia, he was gambino so i don't see why he would lie about these on the eve of his death:
Sumiyoshi:
Scamp
Tree.hugger--green
ohN
Amber[Light]--green
Abenson
Malongo-- mafia (imo)
i *think* scamp is innocent but we should look @ all three.
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i take back what i said about madnessman not posting, saw a post of his a few pages back. still reads like mafia though.
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yes, let's lynch me and waste an actual sumi lynch, scamp. that's smart.
the very fact that i've had no support from any player in any way throughout this entire game should tell you something; i have no allies.
in the event that sumiyoshi win, they have very little to be proud of seeing as how there's been a ridiculous amount of idiocy on both town and gambino side.
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On March 02 2010 13:21 Abenson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2010 10:38 Versatile wrote:
yes, let's lynch me and waste an actual sumi lynch, scamp. that's smart.
the very fact that i've had no support from any player in any way throughout this entire game should tell you something; i have no allies.
in the event that sumiyoshi win, they have very little to be proud of seeing as how there's been a ridiculous amount of idiocy on both town and gambino side. You are voting for someone who is a confirmed innocent(ignoring GF possibilities obviously). How ironic is it that you are talking about wasting votes when you yourself are also wasting votes on a green. Obviously Chez is a DT, there's been no one contesting him. Versatile seems really sketchy, but he did claim bodyguard, so I'm not sure we should kill him.
can i ask you something? in what twisted, dumb ass world do you ignore a serious possibility?
"oi, they're innocent as long as you ignore the GF possibility". WHY THE HELL would you ignore a part of the equation?
wtf? how do you people not see the weaknesses in your arguments?
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On March 02 2010 13:27 Scamp wrote:
Versatile, when have you needed support? Give me a good answer to that and I'll remove my suspicion.
I also like the idiocy you so subtly hint at when you've done nothing all game to warrant such a statement. Come up with something brilliant to save the town or else you're mired in here with the rest of us.
Abenson: Claiming BG doesn't mean jack. Also why are you voting for Opz? Doing that just makes me want to kill you.
you want something brilliant? you want the town to win?
foolishness is mafia. not only is he mafia, he is the mafia GF. end of story. you guys wanna win, vote foolishness.
chez, you have a mafia in your ranks.
scamp, i'm pretty sure you're just playing like a stupid townie. you're trusting all the wrong people.
further, based on voting patterns and posting, i've determined that ~opz~=innocent and xelin= possible innocent. add that to scamp and chez and me being innocent, and there's only two more townies out there.
johnnyspazz and foolishness are mafia, ixnay them. that's 8 people left, 6 of whom are mafia, 2 of whom are innocent.
if we can coordinate, we still have a chance of winning. but for goodness sake vote foolishness if you're serious about the town winning.
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@ opz: malongo is mafia. he's a mafia who claimed BG. however, he's barely posting now because, from what i gather, he lives in Chile? if so, my prayers are with him and everyone else affected by this crisis.
but since he's not posting, he shouldn't be our main concern. we can lynch him later. we need to lynch mafia who are actively trying to mislead the town. ie) foolishness.
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last post for a little bit, but based on analysis, only one of abenson and sidesprang are mafia. i suspect sidesprang is innocent and getting bandwagoned. so, we need to switch him out for a confirmed mafia. NOTE: i would prefer both of them being swapped out for foolishness and johnny, but i don't think that's feasible at this point. therefore, i suggest foolishness for sidesprang, since somehow some of you have decided johnnyspazz is worth saving.
my stance on this johnny thing: there's another gambino out there, one who's been smart enough to keep himself alive and hidden this entire time. who cares which gambino is alive as mafia is mafia. we want them all dead eventually, and to me, killing a confirmed mafia is smarter than killing a possible towny.
this is my list: there is, at most, one wrong name in each list, and if votes don't change, that will be cleared up in a few hours. thing is, after this lynch and night, sumi will most likely outnumber us and they'll run the town.
Mafia:
Foolishness
Johnnyspazz
Malongo
Dozko
Madnessman
Vivi
Abenson
Towny:
Chez
Scamp
Versatile
Opz
Shockeyy
Xelin
Sidesprang
just seriously read, think about, and PROCESS what i'm writing. look @ posts, voting patterns, and ignore wtf has been PMed to you. that's where a lot of you get mislead and end up effing the town.
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On March 01 2010 19:11 Scamp wrote:
Hey Foolishness, guess what? I just went through all of your posts and it seems to me that the case you made against Opz applies to yourself as well.
Opz made half-ass contributions to the game? Your contributions consist of the last second voting analysis and often stating "NO ONE CARES." By the way, what happened to that analysis? Way to bring it up and then never go back to it again.
Mafia plan: Come in when people are talking about you, make a few posts, disappear again. This is what you said, this is also what you've done. Maybe not to the extent where you only show when people are talking about you, but I noticed Ver pegging you on a small list of Sumiyoshi suspects.
Mafia plan: Kill people who are suspicious of you. Well guess who was killed: Ver. And guess who used Ver's analysis post-death as a reason to go after tree.hugger: You. Interesting. And guess who Ver suspected: You.
Your whole argument against Opz revolves around what Caller said way back early in the game. It really seems to me that Caller was talking about Opz in previous games, but you took it and made a really long argument with it about how he was expected to provide clue analysis. Because one person said so. The only part that seems clear to me is that Opz needs to participate more. That's pretty much it. Except perhaps the voting record.
So Opz hasn't voted for anyone that's mafia with the exception of Quickstriker. Guess who else fits that profile? You. Technically you get points for voting QS over redtooth, and I guess you voted for Bill Murray for mayor despite him not having a snowball's chance at that point. But you still have a highly suspicious record that now needs to be addressed.
Finally, you never explained why you voted for me yesterday other than to say that I'm more likely to be mafia over L and Chezinu. That's not what's wrong. You also mentioned MULTIPLE TIMES that L is CLEARLY INNOCENT and apparently you're trying to brush by that fact. You also were asked MULTIPLE TIMES by me to clarify HOW CHEZINU HAS PROVEN HIMSELF and you've just not addressed that at all.
Also nice contribution by telling J-spazz to just stop posting when he brought something up against Shockeyy.
So let's face it.....you really don't have the right to accuse someone like this when there's a lot of things you simply haven't addressed that have come up against you. I'd like an explanation please.
PS: scamp.... you caught foolishness in a BIG ASS lie and let him talk his way out of it. c'mon. you seriously can't think this guy is innocent.
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On March 03 2010 09:40 Scamp wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2010 09:35 Qatol wrote:On March 03 2010 09:15 Scamp wrote:
Oh wait never mind there he is. I guess you die because your name was posted first. GG town unless a certain statement is a lie. Actually the tiebreaker used was checking who had more votes at a time when they weren't tied. There was a point where spazz had 2 votes while chezinu had <2. Therefore, spazz died. It's kinda a crummy tiebreak, but it's the only fair one I could think of on the spot. Just something else to talk about after the game is over. Well it is consistent with the rules, so yeah. Plus now I get to blame Versatile for this. I'd say it's just something for the organizer to add for future games. Doesn't even really matter IMO what the ruling is as long as it's announced when the game starts. Kill both, kill one, kill neither are all fine.
4 mafia just died. blame me for what-the-hell-ever. there's still 1 gambino and pretty much all the sumi have been identified. seems like xelin and i got a nice little ball rolling on the sumi, aye? we say kill johnny, they gang up on him in the end, clearly marking themselves for the rest of you dummies who wouldn't vote for them the last round. cry to someone who cares.
<----going to finish reading.
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On March 03 2010 11:05 Chezinu wrote:
Did anyone else hear the fact that Dozko was rolechecked and turned up red?
jesus fckin' christ chez, yes! i'm sure they even heard you on other sites, shyt.
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welp, our next lynch targets should be foolishness and madnessman, obviously. assuming gambino hits dozko.
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