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On January 22 2010 03:29 QuickStriker wrote: On January 22 2010 03:30 QuickStriker wrote: ...Why is it I only get banned for this...-_- | ||
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Quickstriker can't be trusted! That is all... | ||
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On January 22 2010 15:11 QuickStriker wrote: Oh well, there's nothing else we can absolutely do about this matter as we should not indulge ourselves into the past and move on forward toward the future that we can possibility have to live another tomorrow. But I am certain there are other detectives out there besides lunaticman himself, possibly at least one more, so I do sincerely wish this last detective(s) is able to smarten up and not repeat the same mistake as shown here. I do not hope for a repeat of this tragedy as what's done is done, but repeat of such can only cost us more..... So detectives, I strongly suggest to read over and check and also consider some of the suggestions outlined above. For the medics, I do believe that suggestion marked several posts past are also a possibility to follow as it does suggest an excellent option to make at least this early in the game. Says.....the untrustworthy one.... | ||
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On January 22 2010 23:36 RoyW wrote: I'm not sure, but based on the thread so far, my feeling for Mafia is pointing towards ShoCkeyy. Pretty much every one of his posts so far have been one-liners that are poking or prodding accusations at others. No thats me.... Why do XeliN, quickstriker, Velkan Knight sound so similar....Like....Mildly retarded.... That's why I find them suspicious!!! Do not follow!! | ||
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On January 23 2010 11:18 RoyW wrote: Come on people, am I the only one who thinks it's obvious that Xelin is not Mafia? I can't imagine anyone making a 'lynch me on condition of lynching person x next' gambit unless they're ultra-defensive and feeling persecuted. We have many many people in game, and many people are flying under radar through inactivity. Don't defend the mildly retarded.... Trust me, he's mafia....I'm down with shockeyyy | ||
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Xelin wants to get rid of quickstriker because he's active...and retarded.... I highly suspect them both, but only because of that....Screw that bandwagon... | ||
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I said that wrong anyway.... Either way I mean atleast one of them is retarded and mafia....and the other is just retarded....so lets just lynch them both and call it a night? | ||
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On January 26 2010 07:34 XeliN wrote: I already considered Tree.hugger Johnnyspazz and Dozko as being prime suspects for Mafia, well Tree and Johnny, Dozko is more of a certainty. I am very curious to hear Cresentia and Laaan's deeper explanation to their votes. I very much do not suspect Laaan and am suprised he voted Softer, cresentia I am more suspicious of. Before this i posted a link to my friend of the 7 suspects I would choose, at a push, to be Mafia ShoCkey Dozko Quickstriker Haster ~OpZ~ Jonnyspazz Tree.Hugger Haster is dubious, all he is done is somewhat irrationally voted for me and given some of my posts its more than possible he could have just got the wrong idea and believed I am Mafia. As such Cresentia could be the substitute for Haster. For the love of god can we plz Lynch one of these next round, if we go one more time with lynching a Townie this game is completely lost, as of now it is barely salvagable. Okay jack ass, I've done proposed we lynch quickstriker....You're just mad I voted for you. And called you retarded. Find a clue that points at me, then lynch me. I dare you. You won't find any that work BECAUSE I'M NOT MAFIA. That is all. Xelin | ||
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On January 24 2010 08:37 Iaaan wrote: and just because I think it might be relevant, I will post some stuff about the voting. fulgrim - 3 tree.hugger itspaul decafchicken d3_cresentia - 5 Fishball Dozko softer i10f johnnyspazz It could mean nothing, but the Mafia could have killed these people (itspaul and i10f) to show that it wasn't the Mafia voting for Cresentia/fulgrim, when they really were. But that said, The mafia would have been aiming to get someone in the position of mayor, so looking at the votes for tree.hugger: tree.hugger - 3 d3_cresentia ~opz~ no_re This is who everyone thought would win, as he had 4 votes before i changed mine. I changed my vote to try to screw things up because like I said, I think the Mafia would have wanted the Mayor position the most, and the Mafia thought tree.hugger would have won (which he did) since he was in the lead. Any more votes for him would have caused a tie for sheriff, and at that point in the game, we didn't know what would have happened in a tie. Again with wanting the position of mayor, the Mafia could have voted for Cresentia in order to put them ahead of their candidate. So all that said, at this point the people I suspect the most are Softer and Johnnyspazz for bumping up cresentias votes towards the end, ~Opz~ for voting free tree.hugger, tree.hugger for being mayor (again because the mafia would want this position, and the mafia should have thought tree.hugger would win), and Quickstriker for the clues (which Fishball outlined, and I also think the line "Drawing something technical" points to his profile.) Yo... Okay, so I voted for tree.hugger because I hadn't read all the thread, and Xelin and Quickstriker really seemed newbie and like they THINK they know whats going on, but they type without any purpose and without any actual knowledge. They seem too vague and unspecific. You know? And they talk like they think they're smart, WHEN YOU CAN TELL that they aren't as smart as they seem. It's weak. I voted for tree.hugger because he didn't sound stupid. That is all. So quit being weaksauce. And if you want to see who I'm acting like....well, I won't tell you who I'm modeling my persona off of. | ||
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I now suspect tree.hugger too....Someone consolidate and find all his posts and put them together. I'm currently out of state, on my lap top, hence my no posting yesterday. Proof would be easily obtainable, and sadly, anytime soon, week/month(s), an even sadder proof would be obtainable.... Severe, and sad, family issues. My grandfather has been diagnosed with cancer, so if I don't post often it's because of that. and Mr. Sheriff, plz lock up Xelin or Velkan.... | ||
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=( Sucks but its whatever...Gotta happen some time...I just hope the radiation later this week eases some of his pain Anyway, lets put some emphasis on this thing real quick before we wake and some more of us are dead. WHO KNEW WHO THE VIGI'S WERE. FIND that person and we found a mafia.... For that reason, I suspect maybe tree.hugger. They could of trusted the mayor. Or the Sheriff....Or maybe the mafia just got lucky as fuck with the random guess.... And tree.hugger, you lynching a DT as your first lynch kinda puts you a lil higher on my random lynch thing...The vigi's coulda trusted you, lunatic man coulda trusted the guy about to win the election....I mean this game is filled with newbs.... I don't have time to assess clues, so I'm not even gonna try right now. I might wind up dead though. Not that I really suspect that I'm a high priority or anything, or facing immediate death, but it's mafia and you never know. | ||
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And I'm almost willing to throw you to the gallows myself because the drawing clue... No offense, I like you by far the most of all the canidates, but this is mafia, not a popularity contests. Basically what I'm saying is, I wouldn't hesitate to vote to lynch you if it came down to it. And to the rest of you reading this exchance, NO I am not hopping on Xelin's bandwagon. I think he is retarded and mafia...or just retarded. My reasons for suspecting tree.hugger are my own, and have came through the shared knowledge of his actions, and his own clue interpretation. I am not sure how strong my suspicions are, so they must not be that amazing...But as long as Xelin's dead, I wouldn't hesitate to try and off you tree.hugger... And funny how the flame wheel dude tells me my flaming is mean... I'm sorry buddy, it's just this is mafia...I can get away with calling a retard a retard here...Is there a problem BC? | ||
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He didn't make sense... Mafia games on here really need to start requiring sigs, profile pics...y'know? I'd be able to be connected to zebra's, the color pink, suicide bombing (I was a mad hatter one game!! Well...the russian one...) I would like to attach Velkan to the basement killer, because he used a blade, not a knife and quick striker to the watch clue....He was also able to block the the attack by iaan, which would of required quick movements. The watch not changing with Iaan's death could point EASILY at quickstriker....And it isn't a blatantly obvious, "hey it was a quick movement" it was a "nothing had changed." Hold on...maybe his watch wasn't working....What about side sprang? The water clue is probably too obvious for Drinking... Now I'm not just saying, hey lets go for him, someone else do some better clue analysis... Any you mr. tree hugger, I'm gonna need some better out of you too.... | ||
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He has a little bracelet thing on his hand in his profile...the next part is kind of a stretch, but extremely cold water can bring on shock...and his profile, the picture he is wearing has team LIQUID on it.... actually...I feel this is good....And he voted to lynch xelin, along with me, BUT I PUBLICLY stated my reasons for disliking Xelin, I didn't apologize for his death, AND I said I'm down with shockeyy, just for lynching xelin, but I disagreed with the reasoning shockeyy had.... So.... I say we lynch shockeyy.... | ||
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On January 28 2010 08:58 Qatol wrote: Like flamewheel says, there is an effort to clean up the mafia forum because the flaming got a lot worse after you stopped playing. It started pissing people off to the point where they decided to quit. So now we try to keep the games a little more civil. (And BC is fully on board with this.) Okay...Sorry...Was just deciding to be a little argumentative to have a little more fun. And I still think Xelin's statements were a little....lacking.... If I receive a warning I will be more than happy to stop any flaming, and I intend to cut it out a little... | ||
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On January 28 2010 09:15 ShoCkeyy wrote: Yes because a bracelet takes up my whole hand and I can't represent team liquid?! ...That's not the point...The clues are to usually rather vague.... And those are rather vague....except they seem to fit... Horses are branded too... Representing team liquid has NO bearing on whether or not you are mafia, it's merely something that can connect you to it. No, but the burger takes up your whole hand....The bracelet can be considered a brand....and I'm sorry, but connecting it to JadeFist just seems a little to obvious....sure, we can kill him, but tell me that seems like a clue that would be used to describe him... It works better for you. Liquid and something on your hand... If you want to help, stop defending yourself and find better connections. Please defend yourself better. | ||
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On January 28 2010 10:39 tree.hugger wrote: Love that reasoning, but let's not lynch people who are up for modkills. Good to know...Now someone other than me tell me if it's a stretch to connect the water with Shockeyy.... | ||
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On January 29 2010 07:47 Fulgrim wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 28 2010 12:14 dozko wrote: So I went through all of the clues and thought through most of the things that happened. I now think I have a solid guess as to who the reds are: Before I present you my conclusions, take a look for your reference at the list of possible suspects: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img99.imageshack.us/i/suspects.jpg/) The people I have crossed out in red are those which are in danger of being modkilled. In my opinion we should not waste our time and lynches on these since it is highly likely that BC will take them out and I believe that the mafia are in fact among the active players. Okay so these are the people we're considering and a quick check shows us that they amount to 18 (17 excluding myself) players. Given that 7 mafia are left, then the probability of getting a lynch wrong is very favorable. Therefore I insist that we do not hesitate to vote for people who we think fit the clues, simply because they have played a big part in the thread, have a good posting style or other such details. Now on to my prime suspects for lynching. Lets get the obvious out of the way first: iloveKT has the obvious sound reference due to the sound waves in his profile. VelkanKnight has the obvious knightly association with swords. I do not think that our lynches are worth it for these guys because a) the clues are far too obvious and b) they have not been active at all so in my opinion we've got bigger fish to fry first. QuickStriker+ Show Spoiler + First lets establish a connection between the player and the concept and then see how the concept/mold fits the clues. A google search of shriek gives us references to a comic villain, to quoting wiki: “Agony, is a fictional character and a supervillain from the Spider-Man comic books. She is one of six symbiote spawns of Venom. She is predominantly purple.” First connection - look at his profile picture, there's no doubt the guy has an aura of evil badass around him. Further the sleeve is purple in the picture, the scarf is light purple and the gloves have a purplish tint. Second connection - the fictional character is listed as having "Superhuman strength, speed, agility and endurance“. This fits neatly with the ferociousness of the last day 3 kills and their speed as evidenced by the looking at the watch. Third connection - the second killing is done by "ripped the blade upwards cutting the now dead townie in half from the chest up". Again the supernatural strength needed to do this matches as above. Even more strongly however I find the resemblance between the killing blow and the hand motion of the guy in QS's profile. To me it looks like the picture is taken when the guy is doing the exact same forceful movement - starting from the chest and going up. PS. Not related to the above but the constant refusal to vote, by excuses of "not having enough information, or being too busy" given the multitude of his posts would have warranted a lynch on its own if we were playing a longer game and had whittled the mafia down initially. Therefore I will place my first vote to lynch QuickStriker Jonoman92+ Show Spoiler + Again lets start with the overlying theme of drawings / technical drawings / formations. This is written in such a way by BC that I feel that it MUST be a clue. Therefore looking at the profiles of all the suspects the only two which match are VelkanKnight - for his Lolicon reference in the quote, which is basically a type of cartoon drawings. The other match, which has already been mentioned is Jonoman92 - arcology. These are principles which are aimed at designing massive structures etc. Now while both can be classified as drawings only the latter can be considered technical, and since these building are predominantly hypothetical they can also be considered as strange formations - e.g. look at the picture on the wiki page for arcology - its basically a building formed by a load of triangles, this is something i definately relate to strange formations. I am also curious as to why this clue was overlooked initially. It is of appropriate difficulty and matches extremely well. Okay so to conclude my conjecture is that I - QuickStriker is mafia and responsible for the day 3 second and third killings and II - Jonoman92 is also mafia and responsible for the last day 2 kill. I consider these my prime suspects and will vote for them as per my reasons above. Other suspicions: Fulgrim+ Show Spoiler + The 40k warrior guy with a huge ass sword sewing death etc etc. I think that since we have nothing else that can match to the long object in the hands of one of the killers and since this looks out of place enough for it to be a clue i deem it significant. + in that same novel there is a guy called ferus manus whose "iron hands play a big role". Further people picked up on the branded hand poem and fisherman reference. Shockeyy+ Show Spoiler + I still stand by my day 2 analysis of him and the connection I made to the hypnosis related killing and the spooky red eyes on his profile pic. I suggest people give that another read, I think the hypnosis bit is definitely a clue and shockeyy is the only person it can strongly relate to. Closing conclusions: + Show Spoiler + - Remember how in the beginning of the game one of the reasons that motivated my choice to believe d3_crescentia is not mafia was his posting style etc etc. Well I now believe we have an even stronger proof of that. The people who voted for him in the election. Of the 5 total votes, 3 have been confirmed townies through death and since I am a townie as well (although sadly this will also have to be proven in death it seems) we have only 1 person voting for him, who has "unclear intent". Therefore I conclude that if the mafia ran someone for election they would've at least supported him with a decent number of members - therefore d3 cant be mafia. Of course that strategy is logical but if the mafia have not in fact put up an election candidate then this theory falls apart since it doesn't really give us any conclusions. Since I have trusted him from the beginning of the game I would look mighty retarded if he turned out red and the small number of "uncertain people" votes for him was due to the fact that the mob realized he would win anyway and thus didnt give full support to him. - This leads to the conclusion that one of tree.hugger or fulgrim must be mafia if the reds have employed that strategy. I dont relate tree.hugger's profile pic to anything so if anyone has any ideas please share them. However his conservative posting style and attractive position of responsibility make him very suspicious. - Therefore whatever the outcome I think that the next lynch should include at least one of the two Also I am very interested as to why JadeFist, votes for me. I think some people are taking on the idea of "carrying out Xelin's legacy", which I think is clearly unfounded and such people may very well be the remaining mafia members since such a high profile kill (of a very active poster) will have the obvious repercussions of other players believing that the person was killed because of his suspicion. However this could very well be the mafia's attempt to muddy the waters. For those of you who don't know Fulgrim from 40k: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fulgrim I agree that Fulgrim does have a sword, I think that that clue would fit Velkanknight better then me, as for the hand clue, its a bit far fetched, if Fulgrim had some sort of tatoo or something it might be a better match. Personally I think that no_re is our biggest lead currently, and I think our clues about IloveKT and jadefist are pretty strong at the moment. I will probably be voting for one of them as well as no_re Again....Lemme emphasize this...Just because YOU know where your name and stuff comes from, doesn't necessarily mean BC knows it...But I don't necessarily mean that at you, I mean it more so for everyone's general knowledge... | ||
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On January 29 2010 06:54 dozko wrote: Interesting post, thanks for sharing that info on the PMs. I'll also encourage people to look at the vote tally as it stands currently and see that the due no_re and royw are joined by sidesprang and jonoman92. Although I made that massive clue analysis on why QS might be mafia, the voting patterns coupled with the stuff that d3 just put up is really making my spider senses tingle... These four people have generally been extremely low key and have watched from the sidelines most of the times, yet are the first to jump on the QS bandwagon. Since I am more used to playing post analysis mafia games only (i.e. no clues in narration) my gut is telling me that these are suspicious. Further I dont think my QS theory is watertight at all since if I place him on both kills in day 3 and it looks like there are other double murderers. Couple this with the fact that the guy is not around to defend himself due to his NSL. Although there are about 24 hours left, I will change my first vote from Quickstriker to no_re right now to see what their responses will be. I am really anxious to hear what our mayor has to say and where his three votes will go. The people I consider to be mafia as of this point - jonoman92, no_re, royw, sidesprang, fulgrim and perhaps the others are from the inactives. Definitely two killers with the kitchen and living room, even though both murders occurred in the living room. One killer used a blade, the other a knife. Now you can argue a knife is a blade; but a blade isn't necessarily a knife. And BC was particular in his use of words in that section, because the first killing in the living room he only used the word blade, and in the second killing he only used the word knife. And he used knife rather extensively....We should probably count the number of times just to be safe... I'd do it, but on my lap top at my grand parents house, and it's bothersome. And next week I might post less. I'm a full time student, and I have a part time job with probably 30+ hours a week...so...lol... The watch not changing from 2am from the time he went to the kitchen to the time he died is an important clue, someone find a way to connect it. | ||
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On January 29 2010 10:22 no_re wrote: Anyway if I get lynched here is my list of mafia Most likely: ShoCkey Quickstriker Jonnyspazz Tree.Hugger Possibly: d3_crescentia Dozko and the 7th who I believe if he is possibly mafia, and if he is has played it very well: Fulgrim So by the time im dead it will probably be too late anyway since they got the two places of power and such a good start. Also kinda posting this for posterity so i can be like "booya, nothing but net" come the end of the game ps. godfather - quickstriker I believe you...Tree.Hugger's votes make no sense... Which has become highly suspect in my opinion AND fuck voting closed...not like me changing my vote would of made a difference, I just wanted to take it off No_re.... crescentia, amazing find on QS though...I really would suspect him after that....so let's see what he pops, eh? | ||
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On January 29 2010 12:55 haster27 wrote: Pretty funny about all that Florida debacle  Anyhow, water and satellite map are pretty far-fetched connections I think. Especially since it is not single clue casually thrown away, but re-occuring theme. Well I'd hardly count that far-fetched...It shows water, and shore lines...him thinking it was Florida isn't really that big of a deal, your picture being a coast line with a bunch of water is the big deal... Isn't water and a shore reoccurring? | ||
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On January 30 2010 03:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: no clues are ever in the lynch post....ever. Only in the day posts where mafia kill people. Figured that, but it was lacking the no clue tag, like most spaces have =P And it was rather dramatic lol | ||
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there are now 15 of us vs 6... I am becoming to suspect Fulgrim from varying clues...I'm just tryinng to connect one mafia to another among differing days. We'll see where I get it, but I'm also looking at a few other people too, so don't feel too offended fulgrim. Again, if any of you would like to suspect me, connect me to a clue. Any of them. | ||
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On January 24 2010 04:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Day 2 The night was a memorable one. It was a night of valiant struggle. The records show it began sometime after 1 am in the bowling alley. Toplexa, and i10f were out playing a late night game, to kill most of the night. The knew better to indulge their vices in liquor this night. The also knew better than to have their back to the doors. They were on watch the entire night, they figured that would be enough. They figured wrong. The heard screams coming from outside the building, and quickly drew their guns and moved slowly outside. When they emerged they witnessed itspaul charging a figure in the shadows who had some long object in his hands, one that quickly blocked itspauls clumsy attack and quickly counter attacked and killed the man. Guys...why haven't we noticed this before? You notice where I bolded...Shouldn't all of those be they instead of the? ... | ||
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On January 30 2010 10:42 dozko wrote: ^ what does that tell us though? To be honest I find it hard to see how we can win, since we dont have a double lynch next and even if we get a mafia they still have full KP, so thats -6 townies over the two nights... quick to give up....seriously suspicious...and the Johnnyspazz....I think you both are mafia....starting a negative bandwagon and what not... | ||
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Dude...Seriously....All the clues I attached to you were all of the same origin and all of the same mafia member....I'm sorry the way I was thinking matched EVERYTHING to you...Dozko seems to be ignoring my posts where I stated just how much was capable to be connected to you, which SERIOUSLY makes me suspicious of him. On January 30 2010 18:34 johnnyspazz wrote: and 4/7 are definitely not mafia in that list no_re called Xelin a great player yet he was absolutely terrible at guessing who mafia was. Xelin was on QS's ass from the beginning and look where that got us. i honestly think no_re was supporting Xelin so much because he knew how wrong Xelin was and that would lead to lynching greens and blues. im so mad at myself for not reading carefully. i missed the part where no_re was considered mafia, UGH. ...How can you possibly know that. I'm assuming your including yourself in that 4/7 but we only know QS and Shockeyy because they're dead....so that's only definitely 2...I'm not mafia and I know that so its 3 to me, and 4 if I knew you weren't. All right...Decaf hasn't said shit...iLoveKt hasn't said shit, jadefist hasn't said shit, RoyW hasn't been saying anything for a while, VelkanKnight just all about stopped talking, has haster made over 3 posts in this thread? What about Sagaz... -_- So much quiet. Closest I came to finding any other clues, JohnnySpazz is a guitarist who plays bass ![[image loading]](http://www.jumpingfrom6to6.com/johnhatton.gif) =\ Really guys....mafia are getting us by being quiet.... | ||
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [/Death] -_- I'm disappointed... Why is Ace allowed to jump in our game and state who he thinks is mafia? Ciao....Me and D3 will be busy discussing blatantly obvious mafia members, and the only thing I would like, tree.hugger, pm me...I seriously wanna know, and I'm too impatient. | ||
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Sorry Xelin and QS, hope we don't discourage you from participating in the next one... Anyway...Yea...GG -_- God damn inactivity, allowing so many things to slip through. | ||
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