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Ugh.... this sucks.... I'm still not satisfied with that stupid no-sleep rule to watch the MSL and then sleep 8 AM in the morning and this... I don't even....
Alright, so I'll make another post after reading this carefully, but this is really bad. The vigilantes are someone within the townies that we could have used very wisely since they had their "once a use" kill anyone ability and we lost that.... 2 of them in matter of fact. Those 2 extra kills could have been very useful and it's sadden me that they have died with such ease.
My immediate response and suggestion in regards to this are the following:
1. Check all posts that these 3 people have made before they died. It is possible whatever they have said throughout the game leaves a clue or a hint that they know who the mafia is.
2. According to what I've heard, the blue roles people (medic/DT) were inactive and weren't submitting their night roles to the OP as of before he went sleeping. I strongly hoped they did submit something but if we really do have a wide inactive blue roles, needless to say the town is definitely not in a good position. So blue roles, please be active.
3. a. If the DTs HAVE role checked afterall and found someone who isn't mafia, then it is likely he isn't mafia despite the 1/33 chance at the time for a godfather to sneak in. The possibility is too low and you can work with him in an inner circle.
b. If the person you checked IS mafia afterall, then I suggest you to lead the townies on the side to suggest who the mafia might be without discovering your identity. Also there is that 1/33 chance that person could be a Miller who is a townie but just shown as mafia in role check so keep that in mind.
I'll post when I take some advil from the worst MSL finals of my life.
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And OP, couldn't have made in the description about how the MSL finals caused these deaths? While waiting for that one hour of pointless discussion after game 3, the mafias came to kill or something. That would be more realistic, but I'm just angry ranting at this point in regards to that.
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Alright, thanks johnnyspazz for the posts. Hopefully everyone can follow along easily now.
Now, the obvious thing to do is to look back at the clues of how these 3 people day. But more importantly, check what they said in regards to day 1 clues like toplexa's post where he highlighted some parts (in which johnny forgot to highlight as well >_<) that could possibly lead to the mafia as well.
So in a simple format:
1. Check Day 2's clue of the dead, how they died, their actions before, the killer actions, etc.
2. Check the 3 people's posts, actions, etc, especially what they said in regards to Day 1 clues...
3. Now, I'm wondering how they knew the mafia knew toplexa and i1of were vigilantes. Maybe they didn't, maybe they did... though it is something to think about as well...
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I did not mean to put smiley on that. At the end of that, it was ">_<)" or in case it happens again: ">_<" *no space* ")"
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Well then, I feel so much better now after taking a breeze outside the entire day. God, that was indeed a nightmare yesterday.... (referring to MSL finals that never occurred in the first place. Yes, I am in denial, stage 1 of grief)
Now, I have looked at the past posts, especially made by fishball and laaan whom both does make a good point in terms of highlighting and picking parts of the text for clues. I do applaud for that. I strongly suggest everyone to look over and think to yourselves of making conclusions of who you think the mafia might be, as well as, share your input to the matter.
What I want to say now isn't a repeat of what others have said above me. As I mentioned previously in regards to checking what the dead people statements were before they died, and also who they voted and etc, toplexa's post really got to me back earlier in the thread. His situation was something that also got me in my mind. He was a replacement of someone who dropped out of this game, and as soon as he came in, it as seem he had make an account in TL just to play this game, as his first post ever in his account was in fact, in this game. He outlined statements that others haven't really looked at, and before you know it, he was found dead the next day. Toplexa wasn't able to explain himself fully of the context of the text he picked that was different from what others saw, as most have just seen the 2 words of the text mostly as "Quick attack" as of refers to me. However, toplexa highlighted something different and did not highlight that 2 words of the text. Everyone, I strongly suggest to take a look at what I am trying to point out and what toplexa have pointed out, as I feel there might be a connection between a clue and lead to a possible mafia.
I have to be going now since I have a dinner appointment at T.G.I. Fridays so I will be back later if anyone posted or I'll post more with exactly what I want to say in regards to that and also another matter that includes our mayor and sheriff that could be deemed possible suspicion...
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I also suggest the possibility of using our town powers of "Double Lynch" for Day 3. We cannot use that now as rules state we gotta vote on it first before using the ability in one day advance. I'm sure by Day 3, we will have more clues and leads of who the mafia might be. That is my final food for thought for couple of hours.
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I'll be back later... gonna watch sAviOr all-killing eStro today... so brb/afk
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Blah, too late and tired to think and post. I'm gonna sleep after my failed fantasy SC setup failing my failed predictions of the failness matches. I'll wake up tomorrow (or today rather) and look at all the clues, see what other people posted and make comments and suggestions afterwards. Like I have stated over again and again from the very beginning of the game, the purpose for me in this game is to guide fellow novices of the TL mafia game and helping the town lead its way to a positive direction. And this is in regardless of who I might be in the ultimate end when all of you find out.
With that, I'll leave with my final statement of the night:
I highly recommend to consider the townies to vote for double lynch on Day 3 in the voting thread like I did. By getting the majority of townies to get this vote to pass, we can get 2 people off the next day and with the clues incoming in on day 3 by then and also what we have now, I am certain we can find 2 people to lynch easier.
One can interpret this tactic also for the mafias to make better thought and use to get rid of non-mafia members quicker using psychology, however for me, it is to have the game move along faster, and also can come out in a better position than what we have now. Sure it's a risky move as this is like betting a lot of money or even going all-in in terms of SC or poker as we can come out in a more positive outcome or a worse outcome. However, I think it's worth the risk. Good night!
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Good morning everyone. My my, it seems I'm next to be lynched and hanged by the town. Well, I suppose it will be the best interest for the both of us if everyone feels that way. I'm already getting sick and annoyed by the fact that there's so many inactives and also the intelligence you people seem to play. I'll rather focus my attention on the other game rather than helping some novices to guide a direction.
Just you know, since I already see a repeat from Mafia VII, I won't rage hard but I will give my final thoughts and statement by the end of the day to give my last advice for you town whether I'm dead by the town or the mafia, since I'm bound to be dead anyway. But then again, when I'm dead, HOPEFULLY everyone here would get a spark in their heads and know who to vote for or who to lead to next. Perhaps it might be wrong as well, but like I stated, I suggest all of you to vote for double lynch again as I don't see enough.
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On January 25 2010 01:39 Fulgrim wrote:
I have this feeling that either tree.hugger or d3 are mafia. We obviously know that at least one of the candidates is mafia, and d3 seemed to pick up a couple of votes at the end.
Also Quickstriker was running for a short period of time and withdrew for some reason. From his posts I don't think he's mafia, but both day clues point to him... He has abstained on every vote so far which I find a bit suspicious.
Depending on what Quickstriker is, I think Xelin is the opposite... (though he seems more like mafia then Quick, has accused more people of being mafia)
I never had the intention of running whatsoever. If you actually look within pages and pages of the thread, I never campaigned, I never stated as such, and one person just happened to vote for me. It was until I finally posted on thread I wasn't running that the one person realized and changed his vote. So don't misunderstood me, I was never interested.
I only abstained because I am not voting carelessly like others are. I will think over, read over the clues, and vote according to who I think is mafia 100%, not 40%, not 70%, and not even 90%.
And finally, yes, I feel one of the elected positions are mafia though I'm more cautious for tree.hugger for my own personal reasons.... but not enough to get me think he's mafia 100% or anything. D3, I don't know... It's possible both are mafia or neither of them.
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Also not to be misunderstood by my last post, I have read over Fulgrim previous posts and I like the thought he had put in. I do suggest people to take a look at that and share your thoughts in regards to the day 2 clue.
And sidesprang, you just popped out of this game from nowhere, isn't that more suspicious? Where were you from Day 1 and night 1 that you just happened to come out now?
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Not to mention you seem so eager to vote as soon as you came to life when you also took the liberty of listing the update of votes after you mention you want to vote for me. Maybe I'm paranoid but I think that seems weird on my book. I just want an explanation, I'm not assuming anything. Where were you until now? And why now?
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I like this, the fact that everyone is working together as a team. This is what we should have been from the start. I would like it more if townies who are either intentionally being quiet or simply inactive to get out of that bubble and give their input but I really enjoy reading people's comment from the last couple of pages and onwards.
I don't really have anything to add at the moment but I'm glad people are stepping up and giving inputs regardless of the direction the town has. I think a lot of people are still misunderstood of the concept of voting for double lynch first which can be used for the next day, not the day when we voted. And according to the statistic, we may live another day since this is a big risk, but at the same time, if we are able to narrow and take down 2 mafias instead of 1, plus one today, we can potentially be in a really great shape, as well as reducing the mafia's kill power.
That and the sheriff's ability to disable one's ability during the night helps too.
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Good job guys, I've been passed out and sick for the past several days only to expected to be lynched by my fellow townies who lack sensible logic to win. But don't worry, I still have hope for the town to win despite the fact no one is probably going to post as much and we wont have like even as close to 50 pages in this game. I'd say 44 max but even that is sketchy....
GG
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