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I'm sorry but the only thing I just happen to notice was your intentional misspelling of my name. I really find that annoying wherever I am at TL when someone calls me quicksilver rather than my actual name. So like always, let me start my little anger rant I love to do elsewhere:
/startrant
I'M NOT A FREAKING CLOTHING COMPANY. GOD, QUICKSILVER ISN'T EVEN THAT GOOD OF A CLOTHING STORE. SERIOUSLY? WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF SOMEONE MIS-SPELL YOUR NAME??
/endrant
But like I said, I know you did it on purpose and I did that anger rant as a joke... or did it...? ^_^
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On January 21 2010 13:01 gaizka wrote:I didn't finish somethings... Show nested quote +On January 21 2010 12:58 gaizka wrote:
I don't think QS is mafia, based on his opposition on the killing in the first days, in the way the game is designed I think it's supposed to be this way, have a little of randomness in the beginning. This helps mafia, it is easier to hit a townie than to hit a mafia because there are more townies. If QS is a townie he is looking to delay the development of mafia, if he is mafia he is looking to earn the trust of townies.
For now I choose the first Show nested quote +On January 21 2010 12:58 gaizka wrote: To be honest I just want to start killing people. And in this light I announce my candidacy for mayor
I will put the first kill up to vote I don't want to die. If I am a candidate, can I vote for someone else? If not I quit the race, If so, then it's on. Even if you are a candidate, you can vote, just not yourself. That was listed in the rules.
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From the rules on the OP:
Modkills: Inactivity has been a problem in every mafia game so far. It works as such: players are allowed to safely miss the lynch vote(s) (fail to either vote or abstain) for one day over the course of the game. If you fail to vote on a second day, I will use my discretion about modkilling you based on how active you have been and any excuses you might have. If something comes up and you know you will miss the vote, PM me in advance about it to let me know and you will be spared. Abstaining votes will be allowed, but don't do it just because you don't want to read the thread.
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That is a good updated list to make dozko. I like to retrack my own list that I compiled early on with those who have no sig/picture or anything on their profile prior to the game started:
On January 20 2010 13:09 QuickStriker wrote: Now, I also want to just to throw out another simple facts out there:
List of names who have absolutely nothing on profile (meaning no pics and sig) :
Xelin RoyW ItsPaul dozko laaan Rainbow Jadefist 7Strife no_re Gaizka Man.Magic johnnyspazz
That is 12 people total out of 34 people. That's quite a bit of nothing on profile compared to the other game that has 6...
*edit* Now mind you that if according to the rules of this game, it is sorta illegal to switch and edit your profile the moment this game started.... so I have complied this just to imply that if any one of the 12 changes their profile, they will and can be automatically marked suspicious....
Now, just for the sake of picking and weeding out only those who have yet to make a single post AND someone who have a completely empty profile, we have the following:
Rainbow Jadefist 7Strife Man.Magic
Not sure if this helps anything at all, but its just some random facts I just like to point out... By all means am I saying they are mafia or not but they're just completely empty on profile and also on the game at this moment.
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On January 21 2010 13:41 johnnyspazz wrote: Too be fair, magic.man posted in the voting thread although it seems like his account was created for the sole purpose of playing mafia lol Haha, I know, I noticed that. Though that's the voting thread and you don't just go up there in the vote thread saying "can I be mayor?" I only referred with regards to this thread where the actual game is taking place.
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Hello everyone, I have risen once again from my sleep to inform all that I will not be around like I was yesterday. This may or may not be the only post I will have for today in contrast to yesterday and day before as I have places to go, people to meet, and duty to call (school). But before I do leave, I noticed how more people have popped out over the last many hours I was not here, and I am pleased that people are stepping up to discuss things rather than me having to do like 50% of the posts like previous days. I think I was a bit paranoid with posting yesterday with having this "wall of text" as some may mention but that's just how I am when I am that dedicated and committed to a certain thing. Of course I can't for today, so I will leave the discussion a bit early today. But before I do, I will leave some remarks behind:
Now, the first thing I encourage everyone who just came in or for people to make their cases against whomever, I strongly encourage them to read and look over all the past history that happened in this thread from page 4 to the current page of 16. Since it has started in page 4, many things have go and come by. Half of them are discarded and forgotten, which saddens me. Sure you may not want to read like 10 pages or more of random blogging and waste, but there were clues left behind as well as hints among the people who have posted.
I would like to point things out once more but I am short on time today since I have several businesses to take care of, but hopefully I'll be back in time to oversee my own tourney that's happening later today in TL (NSL Qualifier Round) as well as this mafia game. But since I already left today's event to my co-host, I'm not necessary needed and I do prefer to take a breeze with friends outside, like going to bowling. But in any case, I already have stated many points, ideas, suggestions, comments, within the past 10 or so pages, and I don't really want to repeat myself again and again, so I'll leave the readings to you guys regarding my statements. Good day everyone and I hope the position of this game goes into a positive direction! ^_^
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And no, it's not a way to escape to talk about this game nor is it to pretend to go somewhere when I really don't have anywhere to go. Shit happens and for me, it's life and reality. So I can't be here in this mafia game all the time.
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I forgot to mention this as well but I want to make myself clear. I am NOT running for any of the positions. I'm not interested in either mayor or sheriff. I mean it would be nice but with first day of classes around the corner and with me having to be more active than I already am... please spare me and don't vote for me.... really, I don't need another set of chains bound to this game besides what I have already.....
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Wow.... I was gone the whole day and I only see at most, one new page of posts in contrast to yesterday where it went like from page 10 to page 15.... rofl...
I'm back but I'm going to choose abstain since I really can't choose who I would lean towards.... I shall let fate (other townies but me) decide the mayor/sheriff....
Note: Mayor is #2 of the most vote and Sheriff is #1 of total vote. So remember that people.....
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The votes in about 3.5 hours..... as of the current vote stand and if the final total vote count is what is listed above, the following things will happen:
tree.hugger is #1 in vote counts so he's automatically the SHERIFF....
Fulgrim, d3_crescentia, and lan all have tied votes of a 3 way tie in between of the second position, the MAYOR.... so what might happen is a. a re-count votes, b. a whole new poll just for mayor, c. mayor-less town......
So that is our current situation. Just for heads up.
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On January 22 2010 12:27 d3_crescentia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2010 10:01 d3_crescentia wrote: As of now, we have the following who have not posted after the Day 1 post: - Lunaticman - IplayThings - Nigol
I have not checked the other thread by Plexa to see if they have confirmed their access to the forum. None of these have posted in the Mafia 16 thread and can be regarded as most inactive. Good insight.... now I'm curious if they are even in this game knowing the game started or if they are lurking, as well as their roles of this game.... I mean if they don't know the game started or they just aren't planning to play and they're a blue role (like DT), then the town is in big trouble. On the other hand if they were mafia..... but I doubt any of the 7 mafias can be inactive whatsoever at this moment since the mafias know who each other are and they probably already contacted each other using various methods...
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I meant 1.5... how did I type 3.5 hours.... time view fail... and I'm on the eastern time as well....
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On January 22 2010 12:58 l10f wrote:Finally caught up with all the posts >_> took so long T____T I'm busy with a few things so I won't be super active (see: QuickStriker). I haven't played mafia that much, just like all of you. But I will give my current opinion. I don't think we should be pointing fingers just yet, with so little clue. Also, I came in too late to influence the sheriff vote in any way, but hopefully we won't get a red in the office Most of the analysis has been already done I see, and I hope everyone has a great time in this game ? See me about? The fact that I made you read all those posts about me or that I know why you're busy which is mostly due to CPL?? But I have my NSL running and still active on this as well! ^_^
Now, we have less than an hour to vote and we still haven't gotten all votes in. However, what's more important is who the mayor will be and who he will choose to lynch on first. The first lynch is a must and cannot be avoid, and it is also important to make sure we don't end up with a blue role dead...
On a side note though, the other mafia game is way ahead as their mayor/sheriff has been chosen and after pages and pages of picking each other out of who to vote out using mayor powers, pointing fingers at each other for mafia, it seems they got "t_co" whom most people thought as mafia and bam, a green. (It's on page 36 but the dramas regarding this is pages before and aftermath is after.)
What I'm afraid is a repeat or similarity result like the other town there. As of the current updated post, it seems tree.hugger is #2 at votes which means he can be mayor, but the problem lies on who the new elected mayor picks to die and what role it might be. Not to also mention Night 1 is coming for the mafias to randomly kill 3 of us.... so DTs/medics/ and all other blue roles, prepare to use your power at night time as well!
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Well, currently we cannot tell who exactly are the mafia. It is VERY possible that one of the current candidates is mafia and what keeps popping in my head is the last 5 minute count where it's possible the mafias just randomly come out and vote for their candidate (who is also mafia) all at once. Of course, this also exposes themselves very easily so they would not be careless to do so. (Not to mention my tactic used here again where I mentioned this possible scheme so in case they were planning it, by announcing it publicly, it'll lower their possibility of doing this. Though it is still possible...)
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On January 22 2010 13:29 d3_crescentia wrote: Here's the other thing though, their vote ended at 9PM EST, so it's pretty obvious they would have their elected officials sooner.
30 minutes left. That is also true. I can't help to think if this mafia game OP lives in PST and the other game in EST or perhaps it's just that theirs were more active so that they would end it faster... useless to think about so I'll just stop there.
Also, as I was just simply sight-seeing and being a tourist at the other mafia and their little town, one of their dear confused citizen asked such a question. I simply answered back regardless of my need there but I felt I should share it here to help understand better despite the fact it's in the rules:
On January 22 2010 13:23 QuickStriker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2010 13:20 789 wrote: Wouldn't lynching 1 and incarcerating 1 (2 mafia) reduce their KP by 1? Unless I'm confused as to when the lynching occurs. Just to answer that question (I'm still sight-seeing your town as a tourist! ^_^), since there's 7 mafias and KP is (current mafia / 2) and rounded up with max of 3, 7 - 2 = 5/2 = 2.5 = 3 KP.... so you gotta have the mafia to be reduced to 4 to have it 2 kills rather than 3.
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On January 22 2010 13:38 l10f wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2010 13:13 QuickStriker wrote:On January 22 2010 12:58 l10f wrote:Finally caught up with all the posts >_> took so long T____T I'm busy with a few things so I won't be super active (see: QuickStriker). I haven't played mafia that much, just like all of you. But I will give my current opinion. I don't think we should be pointing fingers just yet, with so little clue. Also, I came in too late to influence the sheriff vote in any way, but hopefully we won't get a red in the office Most of the analysis has been already done I see, and I hope everyone has a great time in this game ? See me about? The fact that I made you read all those posts about me or that I know why you're busy which is mostly due to CPL?? But I have my NSL running and still active on this as well! ^_^ Now, we have less than an hour to vote and we still haven't gotten all votes in. However, what's more important is who the mayor will be and who he will choose to lynch on first. The first lynch is a must and cannot be avoid, and it is also important to make sure we don't end up with a blue role dead... On a side note though, the other mafia game is way ahead as their mayor/sheriff has been chosen and after pages and pages of picking each other out of who to vote out using mayor powers, pointing fingers at each other for mafia, it seems they got "t_co" whom most people thought as mafia and bam, a green. (It's on page 36 but the dramas regarding this is pages before and aftermath is after.) What I'm afraid is a repeat or similarity result like the other town there. As of the current updated post, it seems tree.hugger is #2 at votes which means he can be mayor, but the problem lies on who the new elected mayor picks to die and what role it might be. Not to also mention Night 1 is coming for the mafias to randomly kill 3 of us.... so DTs/medics/ and all other blue roles, prepare to use your power at night time as well! I was referring to how active you are on this thread, and how I won't be as active as you are, you don't need to jump all over my post I just didn't understood your words so I was merely questioning to understand what you were trying to say. I wasn't intentionally trying to jump over my post even though I will admit I tend to go a bit overboard or carried away in my posts sometimes. But that's just my nature as shown in page 4 right after day 1 started. ^_^
But yea, now we officially have 15 minutes left with no changes in votes yet.... so will tree.hugger be our mayor and d3_crescentia be our sheriff?? Remember that those who are elected are immune from death by night kills unless the hidden bodyguard roles are taken out. So if they truly aren't mafia, we are definitely in a good position. If the mafia is one of the elected position, we are in a bit of a disadvantage, especially if mayor is mafia due to 3 voting powers in contrast to our individual 1 vote power...
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On January 22 2010 14:03 QuickStriker wrote: This is troublesome indeed... now a 4 way tie for second place which holds one of the most important positions of all... the mafia.... It is highly likely one of these 4 candidates can be mafia....
So yea, now I'm curious what will happen...
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On January 22 2010 14:04 Iaaan wrote: and isn't it lulzy? ;p It probably looks a little suspicious, but I'll just say that my two goals are not to have a mafia be mayor, and possibly become mayor myself. Going to bed now, but I'll be interested to see how this turns out (: Hmm..... I can't say I don't understand your intentions as I understand your desire to be mayor. However, what troubles me is the first part you said where not to have a mafia be mayor when tree.hugger was almost taken for the spot as mayor.... does that mean you considered him as mafia?
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I'm just looking at the other mafia game thread at the moment and I thought these suggestions laid out for medics and detectives could be something useful to think about:
On January 22 2010 14:04 789 wrote: I thought of one thing as I was getting into bed. Something we can do during the night phase to help the medics. We could compile a list of people likely to be hit by the mafia. This will be hard since we don't know who the mafia are as of yet. But we can do something. Anyone know how many medics there actually are?
My suggestion to the medics : pick those who are active. Losing an active person who ends up being a townie would be damaging. We need all the people analyzing clues we can get.
This is a good idea for the medics to go for.
On January 22 2010 14:09 Zona wrote: You know what, it may be useful for detectives to use at least one of the role checks early.
Right now, if they get a successful clue check, it's hard for them to convince the town of it without outing themselves, since we've already discussed the first set of clues ad nauseam without any conclusions. However, if they check someone and aren't too unlucky, they'll hit a town member and then can share with them safely (although the town member they contact will not necessarily be able to trust the detective). And if we establish a method of choosing which player to check (i.e. check the player below them in the player list) then they won't waste/overlap checks.
But the risk of that method is that if a mafia member is not contacted, then they will know the person above them is not a detective. Hmm. More to think about.
This is also a good idea to think about, however there are a big risk in regards to this. One big risk I can think of immediately on top of my head is that a mafia can fake himself to be detective to try the member they "assumed" to check as detective. Hmm...
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On January 22 2010 14:16 Zona wrote: Yes, I totally agree that detectives should reveal themselves to who they check if the check turns up town, the godfather risk is low. If detectives find more than one medic, yes they should coordinate. But the medic needs to be careful that mafia members aren't fishing to find who the medic is.
At this point without coordination, a medic protection overlap is possible, but remember that even if medic protection was evenly spread out they won't necessarily choose who the mafia will target. I don't think that we can create a plan that will really guarantee that a medic will stop a hit at this point in the game.
Actually, the more I think about it the more I come to the conclusion that detectives should use some of their role checks early in the game to build a base of people they can talk to privately.
On January 22 2010 14:17 Zona wrote: Yes - but if the detective has checked someone to be town, the detective can reveal him/herself safely to the person he/she has checked. (Of course, the person being revealed to needs to be skeptical, as the "detective" who contacted them might be a mafia member.)
I love stealing other people's ideas in the other mafia game. Although I can take credit, I do not wish to but Zona from the other mafia game makes an excellent point and a better insight and plan of what a DT should do rather than my original suggestion of using a "clue check" on compiled clues... Some food for thought to think about it.
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