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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
On February 01 2010 23:07 Zona wrote: And I was total garbage as to clue interpreting. I didn't even notice the DrH/scalpel thing until meeples pointed it out to me by PM. Clue interpreting felt to me like people overall found it less important than behavioral stuff, which is probably more reliable anyway. | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
Mystlord's reaction to the "lynch DrH" post solidified my suspicions, but at that point he awas already very next on the list. | ||
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Phrujbaz
Netherlands512 Posts
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On January 24 2010 10:38 Phrujbaz wrote: Jugan asked me in a pm to post what I think of recent events. First, I'm very sad that we lost a detective early on, through what I think stupid play. What's done is done, but there is still a lesson to be learned. Blues should hide as much from the Mafia as the Mafia is hiding from the town. Don't do anything suspicious. Be careful who you communicate with in private. Make sure the public knows who you are talking to if something goes wrong. Second, as for double lynch, there is a decent chance that a new set of clues will allow us to nail at least one Mafia. However, double lynches are usually used when you have solid clues on multiple people. I don't think we have enough to go on to successfully lynch two Mafia. At this point, I think we're more likely to lynch two innocents than two Mafia. I would use double lynch later. Finally, I think some of you have a too narrow focus. Early clues are always really vague and very loosely connected to the Mafia. They could refer to anyone. Just one example: First result for "magicbullet" on google is the "magic bullet blender," which is kitchen equipment. What role do the refrigerator and the food references play in the first kill on day 1? Why are they necessary for the story? Another example, citi.zen's quote is "Aut inveniam viam aut faciam." It's Latin and means "I shall either find a way or make one." How would you describe this sentiment? Perseverance. How would you describe the character in the first kill on day two? Now I don't mean to say magicbullet and citi.zen are Mafia. I just think it's important to keep an open mind and not become too obsessed with any one reference at this point. Like "I just can't ignore how clue X seems to fit perfectly to person Y." There's a good chance the clue has to be interpreted in a totally different way from what you're thinking. That was a very good post for a mafia I thought. Vague, but also somewhat reasonable (unlike others). What I am curious is: what was your conversation with Jugan about? Did you have him convinced you were innocent? | ||
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
On February 02 2010 01:07 citi.zen wrote: That was a very good post for a mafia I thought. Vague, but also somewhat reasonable (unlike others). What I am curious is: what was your conversation with Jugan about? Did you have him convinced you were innocent? Clearly no one can convince the great and terrible Jugan of their innocence. He sees through lies as easily as you or I see through a window. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On February 02 2010 00:54 Phrujbaz wrote: I facepalmed the instant I read DrH's defense of me in the tea clue. I knew I was going to be dead the instant DrH got caught. Stuff like this makes me wonder if mafia would be more successful if they brainwashed themselves into not remember who their teammates are... | ||
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
On February 02 2010 02:08 Zona wrote: Stuff like this makes me wonder if mafia would be more successful if they brainwashed themselves into not remember who their teammates are... It'd be an interesting variation to play a game where the mafia don't know who the others are. | ||
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789
United States959 Posts
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
On February 02 2010 02:42 789 wrote: The only problem would be if the mafia start hitting eachother haha. I guess you could call it "random serial killers" instead of "mafia" | ||
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
And yea, waiting before posting DrH's accusation in order to collect more clues and get reactions on differents suspects is what really helped to catch the last mafia members imo. | ||
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789
United States959 Posts
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
On February 02 2010 02:59 CynanMachae wrote: Yea I'm pretty sure that a mafia playing "without knowing his teamates" would be much more effective. And yea, waiting before posting DrH's accusation in order to collect more clues and get reactions on differents suspects is what really helped to catch the last mafia members imo. This already happened in Caller's game  It didn't work out too well. | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
Great job Incognito! | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On February 02 2010 03:59 citi.zen wrote: There was nothing wrong with the balance in this game I think, the mafia just played risky. Look at BC's game played with the same rules. Great job Incognito! BC's game had too many inactives, and got some bad breaks. 2 Vigis, and 1 DT died Day 1. Another inactive DT was lynched Night 1 by the Mayor upon winning the election. So before any real action starts, we already lost all the Vigis and DT's. 2 Medics got mod killed due to inactivity, as well as 4 other greens. Pretty much it right there. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
On February 02 2010 04:32 Fishball wrote: BC's game had too many inactives, and got some bad breaks. 2 Vigis, and 1 DT died Day 1. Another inactive DT was lynched Night 1 by the Mayor upon winning the election. So before any real action starts, we already lost all the Vigis and DT's. 2 Medics got mod killed due to inactivity, as well as 4 other greens. Pretty much it right there. It was 2 Vigis and a townie on Day 1... I think there's still a DT floating around out there. Who knows if he's active or not. Town could still pull an epic comeback, but it's pretty chancy. Looking forward to the next game! | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On January 28 2010 14:35 citi.zen wrote: Nikoner, Phrujbaz, keit, Hyperbola and Mystlord, please stand up. GG guys. On January 28 2010 15:27 Jugan wrote: I believe you are wrong on all counts. + Show Spoiler + On January 29 2010 02:46 Jugan wrote: Lol are you fucking serious? Some one can't find a translation for a quote in a foreign language and that's supposed to mean something? Clues aren't based on posts genius. And you claim DrH is defending Hyperbola when he talks about the apple and implicates Keit when he doesn't even MENTION hyperbola? I've looked at your "evidence" and you've just made a story and found posts and tried to make those posts fit into your story. Mystlord's post seems geniune - I can understand where he came from, he even explained his reasoning and how there may have been a hole in it. Does this mean he's innocent? Not necessarily, but the posts you are referring to uses semi-rational reasoning, even if it is slightly flawed. The point is: you're wrong, and stop calling people out on the thread. On January 29 2010 03:21 Jugan wrote: Yeah except that 1) citizen is fucking nuts and won't even listen at all. 2) If he is "inactive"... there are better targets. If he is "laying low"... there are better targets. [insert bad excuse to lynch hyperbola here]... there are better targets. On January 29 2010 03:07 Jugan wrote: You mean like how you're pointing fingers based on ridiculous assumptions and posts that you force to fit your story? Your evidence is shabby at best, and you're trying to convict someone because they couldn't find a translation to your quote AND you're being a douche about it. Yeah way to be ignorant man. I hope we lynch everyone that you pointed fingers at, and they turn up blue. On January 29 2010 03:28 Jugan wrote: i hope you really are mafia and kill citizen for being a donkey On February 01 2010 16:07 Jugan wrote: Your biggest mistake was leaving me alive. [...] I made 5 out of 7 correct guesses on the mafia. Well played  | ||
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
On February 02 2010 05:27 citi.zen wrote: I just have to put this up there, it is just too entertaining: + Show Spoiler + On January 29 2010 02:46 Jugan wrote: Lol are you fucking serious? Some one can't find a translation for a quote in a foreign language and that's supposed to mean something? Clues aren't based on posts genius. And you claim DrH is defending Hyperbola when he talks about the apple and implicates Keit when he doesn't even MENTION hyperbola? I've looked at your "evidence" and you've just made a story and found posts and tried to make those posts fit into your story. Mystlord's post seems geniune - I can understand where he came from, he even explained his reasoning and how there may have been a hole in it. Does this mean he's innocent? Not necessarily, but the posts you are referring to uses semi-rational reasoning, even if it is slightly flawed. The point is: you're wrong, and stop calling people out on the thread. On January 29 2010 03:21 Jugan wrote: Yeah except that 1) citizen is fucking nuts and won't even listen at all. 2) If he is "inactive"... there are better targets. If he is "laying low"... there are better targets. [insert bad excuse to lynch hyperbola here]... there are better targets. On January 29 2010 03:07 Jugan wrote: You mean like how you're pointing fingers based on ridiculous assumptions and posts that you force to fit your story? Your evidence is shabby at best, and you're trying to convict someone because they couldn't find a translation to your quote AND you're being a douche about it. Yeah way to be ignorant man. I hope we lynch everyone that you pointed fingers at, and they turn up blue. On January 29 2010 03:28 Jugan wrote: i hope you really are mafia and kill citizen for being a donkey I really cant wait for Jugan's reaction to my earlier post | ||
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Faronel
United States658 Posts
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789
United States959 Posts
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citi.zen
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