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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On February 01 2010 11:27 citi.zen wrote: Jugan was a miller. LOL - he sure acted like one at the end there. GG all. DoctorH, why did you let me live night 2? I had no idea I was protected by the medics - do you know? The mafia assumed medics would be protecting you. Our original kill list for day 1 was Bill Murray/you/zona but, I figured if medics are protecting anyone, it's gonna be citi.zen, let's kill abenson to throw people off and then we can save citi.zen until the medics are gone or we can hit him twice in the same night. | ||
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StimiLant
United States534 Posts
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citi.zen
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Once he went down the other mafia did come out too strong, but really much of the damage was done. It would have been more work, but I mean... DrH wrote over 250 posts, saying things like the cookie monster did not fit the clues because it reminded him of a "retarded bear" :-) | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On February 01 2010 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The mafia assumed medics would be protecting you. Our original kill list for day 1 was Bill Murray/you/zona but, I figured if medics are protecting anyone, it's gonna be citi.zen, let's kill abenson to throw people off and then we can save citi.zen until the medics are gone or we can hit him twice in the same night. I see. I had no idea, but it turns out I WAS protected by both medics that night anyway. | ||
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StimiLant
United States534 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Killing BM the first day was also a mistake. By leaving him alive, he would have trusted me more and I could have networked even more blues through him. Then the mafia could start hitting blues in groups and the town would probably suspect me but it would probably be something I could argue my way out of. I immediately regretted posting "a DT roleclaimed to me", at the time I wasn't planning to hit BM but I changed my mind stupidly. By saying a DT roleclaimed to me and then a DT dies the next day, is pretty incriminating. I actually think the biggest thing that hurt the mafia was bill murrays after death post, confirming citi.zen as green. That gave the blues an alternative way to network, through citi.zen, that cost us the game as I lost his trust. I felt like citi.zens trust in me started slipping fast after Bill Murray was killed, and obviously that was the case. Our plan was to get the town to use a double lynch asap and to get them to knock off hobbes and flamewheel. By getting the town to waste their double lynches, the mafia could last longer and once the mafia are just under 50% of the town our plan was to all vote the same way and for me to manipulate Jugan, who trusted me quite blindly, into wasting his vote. This way, no matter what happened in the thread, there was nothing that the town could do to change the results of the lynches. keit pointing his finger at me out of the blue was a shock to the rest of the mafia. However, I pushed way too aggressively for his lynching and it made me seem inconsistent. I panicked and made a bad decision, although keit really shouldn't have done that :x | ||
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StimiLant
United States534 Posts
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
The "a DT roleclaimed to me" public message did not matter to me much. I knew directly from Zona of your conversation with him. The he got killed and was green - so I knew it was not edited by him, it was real. Message below spoiler... + Show Spoiler + DrH has mentioned to me that the detective who claimed to him said you were town. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Yes. Why did you ask? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: (I'm interpreting your answer to mean - yes, there are others who are asking you the same question.) Well, yes or no, has anyone contacted you claiming to be a detective? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: yes, there are others. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: There's more people asking you the same question? I'll tell you why I'm asking if you tell me yes or no. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I wonder why everyone is asking me that tonight... ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Has anyone (don't tell me who) revealed themselves to you claiming to be a detective? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: lol, his posts in the chess thread sometimes amused me in the past. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I'm now positive Bill is just a silly player. He posts inappropriately elsewhere on the site, too - like posting his own fantasy proleague team in other people's blogs. Likely town, as mafia teammates would probably tell him to shut up. Still doesn't make him an asset to the town, though. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: briefly. don't know what to think now. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Also - have you been in contact with DrH? That is when my trust in DrH slipped - not so much Bill's death. After all, this is what Bill had written to me: ----------------------------------------- Original Message: i suppose. i am an outgoing person, and if that's why i lose, that's fine. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Can't hurt for you to be a bit more careful with your pm's though. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: i just rolechecked you and you came up as a townie.... so unless you're the godfather, we should stick together Bill's after-death post did hurt, agreed, and it was a real shame. However, by then I was very suspicious of DrH already because of Zona's message/death. Meeple and flame also wanted his head. I had a chat with them on messenger + received the clue check... and it all ended up in that long anti DrH post. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On February 01 2010 11:45 citi.zen wrote: DrH's original mistake was to tell Zona I was role-checked green by Bill. I could never understand why he would do that - I trusted nobody at that time and he didn't have any reason to trust Zona either. Early game I was desperately trying to make sense of that mistake of his. When I got the clue check report, it fit, otherwise I would not have trusted it as readily. Flame and meeple, as it happened, were independently trying to persuade me DrH was fishy. Once he went down the other mafia did come out too strong, but really much of the damage was done. It would have been more work, but I mean... DrH wrote over 250 posts, saying things like the cookie monster did not fit the clues because it reminded him of a "retarded bear" :-) Dude citi.zen finally gets my name right! Ah, good game guys. And whew Hobbes--turns out there really was more than one cat. Though that other cat got modpwned. | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On January 29 2010 13:07 [NyC]HoBbes wrote: all I know is finally the clues dont suggest me... considering the last few nights I was expecting tonight to be "his orange, stripy attacker left a great deal of fur and tuna fish behind..." | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Just in case things had gone the other way, then we would've been able to add more fuel to the storm. | ||
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citi.zen
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
And I did use a clue check on Night 3, but since I died like 10 minutes after it doesnt matter much  | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
As for my defense of a keit lynch, I was actually strapped for time so I skimmed citi.zen's post and didn't see part about the clue check by the DT. After someone brought up something about confirming a DT, I went back and reread citi.zen's post, after which I realized I shot myself in the foot. At that point, I knew that everyone was already suspicious of me, so I had no choice but to play it out. Major fail by me And I'm still kind of disheartened that the mod thought that my name was a play on "mist". I still think whoever came up with that could've found something better to go on, but whatever. The google image search is still an "ugh" in my mind though. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On February 01 2010 12:11 StimiLant wrote: wow that almost sounds like that one mafia game where there were two mafia families and or hired hitters in the game. Difference is we won that one  (In all seriousness, I too was shocked at how similar this game was to that one. Even down to the DT roleclaiming to the figurehead!) | ||
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