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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-01 06:39:38
February 01 2010 02:43 GMT
#1741
....... Screw you too, Incog.........
Uff Da
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 01 2010 02:44 GMT
#1742
On February 01 2010 11:27 citi.zen wrote:
Jugan was a miller. LOL - he sure acted like one at the end there.

GG all.

DoctorH, why did you let me live night 2? I had no idea I was protected by the medics - do you know?


The mafia assumed medics would be protecting you. Our original kill list for day 1 was Bill Murray/you/zona

but, I figured if medics are protecting anyone, it's gonna be citi.zen, let's kill abenson to throw people off and then we can save citi.zen until the medics are gone or we can hit him twice in the same night.
RIP Aaliyah
StimiLant
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States534 Posts
February 01 2010 02:45 GMT
#1743
thanks incognito and dreamflower for running this tl mafia 16, it was a lot of fun, also thanks to qatol and others for answering all the newb questions
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 01 2010 02:45 GMT
#1744
DrH's original mistake was to tell Zona I was role-checked green by Bill. I could never understand why he would do that - I trusted nobody at that time and he didn't have any reason to trust Zona either. Early game I was desperately trying to make sense of that mistake of his. When I got the clue check report, it fit, otherwise I would not have trusted it as readily. Flame and meeple, as it happened, were independently trying to persuade me DrH was fishy.

Once he went down the other mafia did come out too strong, but really much of the damage was done. It would have been more work, but I mean... DrH wrote over 250 posts, saying things like the cookie monster did not fit the clues because it reminded him of a "retarded bear" :-)
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 01 2010 02:47 GMT
#1745
On February 01 2010 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2010 11:27 citi.zen wrote:
Jugan was a miller. LOL - he sure acted like one at the end there.

GG all.

DoctorH, why did you let me live night 2? I had no idea I was protected by the medics - do you know?


The mafia assumed medics would be protecting you. Our original kill list for day 1 was Bill Murray/you/zona

but, I figured if medics are protecting anyone, it's gonna be citi.zen, let's kill abenson to throw people off and then we can save citi.zen until the medics are gone or we can hit him twice in the same night.


I see. I had no idea, but it turns out I WAS protected by both medics that night anyway.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
StimiLant
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States534 Posts
February 01 2010 02:49 GMT
#1746
the clues towards doc h and mist made tons of sense but no one ever agrees on clues ever, jaymes was obvious too, hyper, keit, phruj were sorta too, but again no one ever agrees on clues
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 01 2010 02:52 GMT
#1747
the worst mistake i made was saying publically "a detective roleclaimed to me" imo
RIP Aaliyah
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 01 2010 02:54 GMT
#1748
Ahh... very nice. I've been somewhat unable to be active these last couple days but I'm really glad it all turned out good. Thanks Incog and dreamflower for running this and everything, it was friggin amazing!!! Also, its totally awesome that so many people were so active. Cheers!
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
February 01 2010 02:57 GMT
#1749
DrH, I do have to applaud you, one for having the balls to play a strategy like that and two for consequently making the game that much more interesting
Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 01 2010 03:04 GMT
#1750
Basically, what I wanted to do was use my position as sheriff to gain the trust of the town while pushing suspicion on to t_co/meeple/hobbes. I was not pleased that t_co was lynched the first day, because that may have made me look a bit divisive.

Killing BM the first day was also a mistake. By leaving him alive, he would have trusted me more and I could have networked even more blues through him. Then the mafia could start hitting blues in groups and the town would probably suspect me but it would probably be something I could argue my way out of.

I immediately regretted posting "a DT roleclaimed to me", at the time I wasn't planning to hit BM but I changed my mind stupidly. By saying a DT roleclaimed to me and then a DT dies the next day, is pretty incriminating.

I actually think the biggest thing that hurt the mafia was bill murrays after death post, confirming citi.zen as green. That gave the blues an alternative way to network, through citi.zen, that cost us the game as I lost his trust. I felt like citi.zens trust in me started slipping fast after Bill Murray was killed, and obviously that was the case.

Our plan was to get the town to use a double lynch asap and to get them to knock off hobbes and flamewheel. By getting the town to waste their double lynches, the mafia could last longer and once the mafia are just under 50% of the town our plan was to all vote the same way and for me to manipulate Jugan, who trusted me quite blindly, into wasting his vote. This way, no matter what happened in the thread, there was nothing that the town could do to change the results of the lynches.

keit pointing his finger at me out of the blue was a shock to the rest of the mafia. However, I pushed way too aggressively for his lynching and it made me seem inconsistent. I panicked and made a bad decision, although keit really shouldn't have done that :x
RIP Aaliyah
StimiLant
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States534 Posts
February 01 2010 03:11 GMT
#1751
wow that almost sounds like that one mafia game where there were two mafia families and or hired hitters in the game.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 01 2010 03:35 GMT
#1752
Yes, I think if you kept Bill alive and asked him to do harmless (to you) missions like role-check non-mafias you could have won & had info about the blues. You are the first person he trusted, as did much of the town at that point.

The "a DT roleclaimed to me" public message did not matter to me much. I knew directly from Zona of your conversation with him. The he got killed and was green - so I knew it was not edited by him, it was real. Message below spoiler...
+ Show Spoiler +

DrH has mentioned to me that the detective who claimed to him said you were town.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
Yes. Why did you ask?

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
(I'm interpreting your answer to mean - yes, there are others who are asking you the same question.)

Well, yes or no, has anyone contacted you claiming to be a detective?

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
yes, there are others.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
There's more people asking you the same question?
I'll tell you why I'm asking if you tell me yes or no.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
I wonder why everyone is asking me that tonight...



-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
Has anyone (don't tell me who) revealed themselves to you claiming to be a detective?

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Original Message:
lol, his posts in the chess thread sometimes amused me in the past.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
I'm now positive Bill is just a silly player. He posts inappropriately elsewhere on the site, too - like posting his own fantasy proleague team in other people's blogs. Likely town, as mafia teammates would probably tell him to shut up. Still doesn't make him an asset to the town, though.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
briefly. don't know what to think now.

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Original Message:
Also - have you been in contact with DrH?


That is when my trust in DrH slipped - not so much Bill's death. After all, this is what Bill had written to me:

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
i suppose. i am an outgoing person, and if that's why i lose, that's fine.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
Can't hurt for you to be a bit more careful with your pm's though.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
i just rolechecked you and you came up as a townie....
so unless you're the godfather, we should stick together



Bill's after-death post did hurt, agreed, and it was a real shame. However, by then I was very suspicious of DrH already because of Zona's message/death. Meeple and flame also wanted his head. I had a chat with them on messenger + received the clue check... and it all ended up in that long anti DrH post.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
February 01 2010 03:35 GMT
#1753
On February 01 2010 11:45 citi.zen wrote:
DrH's original mistake was to tell Zona I was role-checked green by Bill. I could never understand why he would do that - I trusted nobody at that time and he didn't have any reason to trust Zona either. Early game I was desperately trying to make sense of that mistake of his. When I got the clue check report, it fit, otherwise I would not have trusted it as readily. Flame and meeple, as it happened, were independently trying to persuade me DrH was fishy.

Once he went down the other mafia did come out too strong, but really much of the damage was done. It would have been more work, but I mean... DrH wrote over 250 posts, saying things like the cookie monster did not fit the clues because it reminded him of a "retarded bear" :-)


Dude citi.zen finally gets my name right! Ah, good game guys. And whew Hobbes--turns out there really was more than one cat.

Though that other cat got modpwned.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 01 2010 03:39 GMT
#1754
Yes, poor Hobbes, this post was awesome:

On January 29 2010 13:07 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
all I know is finally the clues dont suggest me... considering the last few nights I was expecting tonight to be "his orange, stripy attacker left a great deal of fur and tuna fish behind..."

Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
February 01 2010 03:39 GMT
#1755
Yeah I have that meebo chat saved...
Just in case things had gone the other way, then we would've been able to add more fuel to the storm.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 01 2010 03:51 GMT
#1756
No worries: I decided to ask a medic to protect magicbullet tonight and save hit vigilante hit, just in the outrageously small chance meeple was red and would be difficult to lynch later thanks to his 3 votes. This was per Ng5's prudent advice, who I was also pretty sure, but never 100% sure was innocent.Ng5 was extremely helpful with his analysis by the way, excellent game by him.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
February 01 2010 04:07 GMT
#1757
Yea gg all, good to see the clues, phrujaz's were probably the hardest.

And I did use a clue check on Night 3, but since I died like 10 minutes after it doesnt matter much
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
February 01 2010 04:13 GMT
#1758
GG other town, I hope to see you guys in mafia XVII O:
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
February 01 2010 04:21 GMT
#1759
Us mafia never really worked together as a team. The only time we actually came together was to decide who to kill. Rather big mistake since all of us kind of went our own ways on how to do things and never really thought up major strategies. It didn't help that this was my first time playing mafia :3.

As for my defense of a keit lynch, I was actually strapped for time so I skimmed citi.zen's post and didn't see part about the clue check by the DT. After someone brought up something about confirming a DT, I went back and reread citi.zen's post, after which I realized I shot myself in the foot. At that point, I knew that everyone was already suspicious of me, so I had no choice but to play it out. Major fail by me

And I'm still kind of disheartened that the mod thought that my name was a play on "mist". I still think whoever came up with that could've found something better to go on, but whatever. The google image search is still an "ugh" in my mind though.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-01 06:39:24
February 01 2010 04:28 GMT
#1760
On February 01 2010 12:11 StimiLant wrote:
wow that almost sounds like that one mafia game where there were two mafia families and or hired hitters in the game.

Difference is we won that one (In all seriousness, I too was shocked at how similar this game was to that one. Even down to the DT roleclaiming to the figurehead!)
Uff Da
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