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On January 22 2010 14:09 Zona wrote:
You know what, it may be useful for detectives to use at least one of the role checks early.
Right now, if they get a successful clue check, it's hard for them to convince the town of it without outing themselves, since we've already discussed the first set of clues ad nauseam without any conclusions. However, if they check someone and aren't too unlucky, they'll hit a town member and then can share with them safely (although the town member they contact will not necessarily be able to trust the detective). And if we establish a method of choosing which player to check (i.e. check the player below them in the player list) then they won't waste/overlap checks.
But the risk of that method is that if a mafia member is not contacted, then they will know the person above them is not a detective. Hmm. More to think about.
All detectives imo should rolecheck twice, cluecheck, then rolecheck again. Rolecheck is 10x stronger in every way. And yes there's nothing wrong with claiming to someone innocent unless you are extremely suspicious of what role came up. This is one way to form networks where people can trust.
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So much for random lynching does the game bad. 
It was nice to be eating popcorn and watching the elections on tv (can't stomach going to political stuff live) - and see all the faces after his face turned all green from lack of oxygen.
Loud troublemakers are fun. At least you have some distraction - no matter which side you are.
This lynch was brainless and didn't do any good. If you need to kill a bigmouth because you can't disregard them then don't run for power.
And don't come to me with the just to ease the nerves bullshit. If the town is full of greens and blues who can't tell rosepetals from thorns we're all gonna die anyway.
Peace.
PS: Oh and look how much good it would have done if I've chosen sides already? Besides. Wisecracking and being cynical is cool. It's like dating. You never know what's up green, red or blue.
PS2: I hope you'll lynch me next because I'm being a distraction now. It would be hilarious. Well worth dropping out of active play.
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I think we should lynch Nikoner. It's obvious he is Mafia.
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On January 22 2010 21:03 Phrujbaz wrote:
I think we should lynch Nikoner. It's obvious he is Mafia.
Any type of evidence or reason why?
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I have very good instincts.
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Hmm... I was actually kind of expecting t_co to flip green. From now on we shouldn't lynch anybody without clues to back it up. The next night should really help us out in starting to pick up on the mafia's trail.
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Detective
You have the ability to make night investigations. Once per night phase, you may PM me to ask one of the following, which I will answer:
1. Does X contain a clue? (Where X is part of a Day post) (called a "Clue Check")
2. Does X contain a clue that points to Y? (Where X is part of a Day post and Y is a player's name) (called a "Clue Check")
3. What is Y's role? (Where Y is a player's role) (called a "Role Check")
X can be no larger than one sentence.
We should try to help the detectives come up with good question ideas to ask during the night.
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For example, under 2. above, they could ask:
Does "With that, he launched himself forward at the three town leaders, lifting his fists and taunting them with strange barbaric noises." point to [NyC]Hobbes?
Anyone else have anything?
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On January 22 2010 21:00 Ng5 wrote:So much for random lynching does the game bad. It was nice to be eating popcorn and watching the elections on tv (can't stomach going to political stuff live) - and see all the faces after his face turned all green from lack of oxygen. Loud troublemakers are fun. At least you have some distraction - no matter which side you are. This lynch was brainless and didn't do any good. If you need to kill a bigmouth because you can't disregard them then don't run for power. And don't come to me with the just to ease the nerves bullshit. If the town is full of greens and blues who can't tell rosepetals from thorns we're all gonna die anyway. Peace.PS: Oh and look how much good it would have done if I've chosen sides already? Besides. Wisecracking and being cynical is cool. It's like dating. You never know what's up green, red or blue. PS2: I hope you'll lynch me next because I'm being a distraction now. It would be hilarious. Well worth dropping out of active play.
Almost anything would get you lynched in this game, except for when your actually asking for it.
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Well this is sort of redundant, but they could ask if the whole apple thing points to hobbes. It's going to be hard for the detectives in this night, there isn't a lot of clues to check against suspects. I like Zona's idea of using role checks for this first night.
As for medics. I'm going to restate my suggestion to protect active posters for this first night. True we won't know which are townies and mafia, but it would be damaging to lose an active townie early. We have less to lose by losing some of the people who have posted only a couple or 0 times. I've got a list of 4 names I think would be good to protect.
DoctorH and Meeples are the most active members, but they are also protected by elected positions. So off the post number list Zona posted a few pages ago:
Bill Murray
789 (me)
citi.zen
Zona
These are the next 4 in line in activity list excluding t_co who got lynched. Zona also brought us a script to extract post numbers. I think any of the 4 would be a good bet for medics, of couse bias says protect me! protect me!
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Ah, I see, he DT has to choose between a clue check and a role check. For some reason I thought they got one of each, but that would surely be op.
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Hmm...
We should be discussing or working out a plan?
Right now i just don't know what to do...
T_co got lynched.. and that's that
now what?
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Well we sort of are. Right now we're helping our blues figure out what they should do with their abilities during night 1. Since it is too dangerous too openly coordinate at this point, it is the best we can do. With t_co turning up green, I think that is a dead end, unless someone else has some ideas there? So for now, its trying to help the blue's decide what to do to weather the storm until our next set of clues.
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Lol, I just reread my post and am laughing at the numerous grammatical errors I made. Must resist urge to edit.
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We still have:
1. The day one clues. Possible link to a number of players. Maybe strongest link to Hobbes.
2. Suspicion of other candidates, now that t_co turned green. Even t_co thought there was mafia interest in getting elected.
3. When t_co became the lead lynching candidate, the mafia of course knew he was in fact green. We can go back and look at people's posts and voting record keeping this in mind.
4. PMs. Be careful who you talk to and keep notes. Think critically.
When more clues surface, use some combination of the above.
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Yeah I agree with all of those. There isn't much we can do about it now though, and we got some clues coming our way before we have to make any decisions. In my opinion we should analyze day 2 clues first. Then compare these with any possible connection to day 1 clues. If we get nothing from there, then focus on what happened on the election.
Though I guess it wouldn't hurt to talk about the election and candidates until then. It is possible at least one of the candidates was mafia. But we can't be certain, because it is also possible the mafia sat back and laughed at the drama we created on our own. Personally, I can't single out any candidate at this point that I think is more likely to be mafia than any others.
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Perhaps we should actually think about the DrH and meeple theory instead of dismissing it just like that.
I'm not saying that the alliance exists nor am i trying to hint that, but i think we should consider all the options.
I still can't believe T_co is green o.o
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We can think about it, but it would not be wise to start lynching up elected officials until we have something concrete to go off of. If we lynch them and they flip green/blue we've put ourselves in a bad spot.
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Soo...
I just wanna do something...
Nobody's posting -.-"
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