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On January 22 2010 02:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What I don't understand is why do any of us have to be mafia?
if t_co turns green that doesn't really mean anything about me or meeple. It's pretty obvious the "alliance" between me and meeple is completely fabricated. None of us ever attacked him early on, he started making a fuss all by himself and pointing fingers with pretty much no ground under it.
All that means is that if he's mafia, his role was obviously to divide the town/cause distrust. If he isn't mafia then he's just causing trouble (which benefits the mafia in the end)
I could just say "oh if I die and turn green, that means Ng5 is red" but it doesn't.
10/10 for logical thinking.
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On January 22 2010 02:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Has anyone considered the whole possibility that the mafia doesn't even have a candidate?
We've been going on this whole shitstorm assuming someone running for office is red.
The mafia could see that and just think "well wouldn't it really fuck with them if none of us ran? They'll tear each other apart and probably end up lynching their elected candidates"
That's kind what is happening too.
I didn't assume anyone running was mafia, and I still don't think anyone running with substantial votes is mafia either. I thought the whole reason we thinking t_co is crazy is that he thinks everyone running is mafia.
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On January 23 2010 12:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Jugan can confirm it. I'm not saying I suspect him of being mafia either. I'm just saying besides myself, I know for sure Bill Murray was in contact with citi.zen and jugan.
I made a guess based on Zona's post.
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Bill did not reveal he was a detective to me, he was very paranoid about giving his role away. We had a chat about the green role, as one of my posts contained "I hope I'm not the miller".
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I believe it was around page 22. It included something stating that a detective "revealed himself to DrH."
I made a guess that it was Bill because in one of his earlier posts Bill stated "I'm more active behind the scenes than my posts indicate, and I have a lot of posts."
DrH just confirmed my guess when I asked 
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On January 23 2010 12:40 citi.zen wrote:
For what its worth, I will confirm that, right or wrong, Bill did trust me, Jugan and Dr.H.
He thought Jugan had to be in the clear since he told Bill "I hope I'm not the miller". I have no idea why this would be evidence for anything, or why in general he would trust anyone he did not role-check.
Bill didn't really trust me, we just talked about how crazy t_co is and my "I hope I'm not the miller" line in one of my posts. He did mention that he only trusted DrH because he's the sheriff.
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On January 23 2010 12:46 meeple wrote:
And how are we supposed to trust these pms? Jugan already denied his
I didn't deny the PM. I simply stated that you misinterpreted it.
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On January 24 2010 04:52 ghote wrote:
super luck, unless he reveled it to someone in a pm, but i see no reason why he would do such a thing , most likely a lucky guess
bodyguards don't know who they are.
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On January 24 2010 05:32 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2010 05:30 Jugan wrote:On January 24 2010 04:52 ghote wrote:
super luck, unless he reveled it to someone in a pm, but i see no reason why he would do such a thing , most likely a lucky guess bodyguards don't know who they are. bodyguards don't know who each other are, but they do know that they are bodyguards.
oh i didn't know that. my bad! lol
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On January 25 2010 02:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2010 02:28 tredmasta wrote:
Hey guys, sorry I haven't posted in a while. I was not at home all of yesterday.
I saw that I had been suspected, but I think overall, the clues point more to flamewheel91. My name is based off of a treadmill, but nothing else in my profile seems to really fit the clues. I also feel it fits flamewheel91 a lot more than you. I'm a bit inbetween voting for kane/flamewheel/keit atm.
There actually is nothing definitive fitting flamewheel right now. The victim ran at near-olympian speed. First, it wasn't the killer who did it. Second, the picture in flamewheel's profile is an olympian - Not a near olympian.
I doubt Bill trusted me at all, we just talked a little bit about the miller role. If you have any confusion about it, you should read earlier posts.
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On January 25 2010 07:08 789 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2010 07:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I think it should be noted that the "olympic runner" in the first scenario is describing Blue_Arrow not the mafia who killed him. At the same time, if blue_arrow ran at near olympic speeds and still wasn't able to get away...
because the mafia man plodded on relentlessly until he eventually caught up. blue_arrow was exhausted from his dash and couldn't move another inch! Thus, he slumped in exhaustion against a lamppost, defeat written on his face as certain doom approached.
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On January 25 2010 07:16 Ng5 wrote:
And this is why knowing the distance of the runner could actually help.
only if you're hellbent on convicting flameguy
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On January 25 2010 07:34 Ng5 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2010 07:18 Jugan wrote:On January 25 2010 07:16 Ng5 wrote:
And this is why knowing the distance of the runner could actually help. only if you're hellbent on convicting flameguy If you are hellbent on misinterpreting my posts... 
touche sir, touche.
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does that mean we're lynching skronch next?
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On January 26 2010 12:59 JohannesH wrote:
I suggest you take citi.zen in for protection. Hes the one to trust and protect the most.
And if you incarcerate someone when mafia is 1 person away from losing kill power, you get 100% sure indication if hes a part of mafia. That might be equally useful for confirming/revealing an active townie like meeple, or just making sure of a suspicious person.
If detectives have succesfully rolechecked a mafia, or clarified a lynching candidate to be green, I suggest you pm that to citi.zen. Well mafia might do that too but it could backfire so easily on them.
There is no reason NOT to protect meeples. He needs to be protected by the sheriff.
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On January 26 2010 14:26 JohannesH wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 14:18 Jugan wrote:On January 26 2010 12:59 JohannesH wrote:
I suggest you take citi.zen in for protection. Hes the one to trust and protect the most.
And if you incarcerate someone when mafia is 1 person away from losing kill power, you get 100% sure indication if hes a part of mafia. That might be equally useful for confirming/revealing an active townie like meeple, or just making sure of a suspicious person.
If detectives have succesfully rolechecked a mafia, or clarified a lynching candidate to be green, I suggest you pm that to citi.zen. Well mafia might do that too but it could backfire so easily on them. There is no reason NOT to protect meeples. He needs to be protected by the sheriff. You could say that about anyone no? And we have medics too, in any case.
except meeples carries 3 votes and he's obviously going to be targeted. obvious reason is obvious.
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On January 28 2010 10:17 Mystlord wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2010 22:35 citi.zen wrote:On January 27 2010 14:41 Mystlord wrote:On January 27 2010 14:15 citi.zen wrote:On January 27 2010 14:06 Mystlord wrote:So you're going to lynch based on the fact that my name is "close enough" to the word "mist"? I cannot see the logical connection that you're making there. This is what my name is actually referring to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MystI'm posting that link because it seems that people are stymied as to an alternative interpretation of the first half of my name. You are very likely red if DrH turns red. It is your behavior, as much as the clues that raise questions at this time. Even now you are trying to suggest stalling and going after keit/free/etc. instead of following the hard evidence obtained by lynching DrH. You are further trying to confuse matters by suggesting that either keit or DrH, but not both, have to be red - when this is clearly not the case at this point int the game. I just don't see it, sorry. It is not personal, I never even really suspected you before today. I'm only advocating a keit lynch because I believed that it would almost certainly reveal who was mafia and who wasn't. Please explain who your other suspects are if keit flipped red. I am willing to keep an open mind. Note that we will have a double lynch, and possibly a vigilante to use. We need 2/3 or 3/3 hits to get mafia kp to 2. Sorry for the late reply. I was at school and then I took a nap :3. Initially I wanted to lynch keit because I feared losing the incarceration power, but then I went back, read my post, and realized that I pretty much failed to take into account the possibility that keit was a blue. Now while it's unlikely that a blue would spearhead the attack, the PM confirmed my suspicion that keit was acting like a maverick, whether he is mafia or town. Anyway, if keit is blue, then that would really explode my argument on DoctorHelvetica 3 times over, considering that I went back to the first post and realized that you can only use the incarceration power twice (thought it was like the medic power - daily use). Now directly addressing your question citi.zen, I felt that lynching keit would confirm 1) whether DH was town or mafia (which several people pointed out was false. I'm personally on a fence now.) 2) The motivation behind his posting, which I found to be rather suspicious. When I went back and looked through keit's posts, I found that keit generally had inconsistent play. Initially, he voted for DoctorHelvetica just out of the blue. No explanation at all in the thread. Then he voted for restraint on day 2, while a lot of people were pushing for a kane]deth[ lynch. On day 3 (or the end of day 2), he brought up the scalpel clue which led to the beginning of the movement to lynch DH. Now that to me was just strange. I didn't really get why keit would vote DH, then pretty much work against him for the entirety of the game. That, combined with my logic that both keit nor DH could be mafia, led me to go for a keit lynch because I was certain that lynching keit would confirm or deny DH's innocence, but that wasn't the case. Regardless, I have to go get ready for an interivew. I'm not voting to lynch keit anymore, and if DH flips red (which I'm almost certain he will at this point, especially adding in the fact that he retracted his vote for the double lynch), then I know that I'll be the next one on the list regardless of whatever I try to say, so whatever guys. It's been nice playing with you.
I hold firm in the belief that you should not be lynched next.
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On January 28 2010 14:35 citi.zen wrote:
Nikoner, Phrujbaz, keit, Hyperbola and Mystlord, please stand up.
GG guys.
I believe you are wrong on all counts.
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Well mystlord is a maybe.
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On January 28 2010 16:45 CynanMachae wrote:
Ahhh I knew it made more sense like this lol.
And while we're at it:
1 of 1 Sheriff remains
I think we are down to 0 :o
Wrong! For YOU HAVE INHERETED THE POWER OF DAS SHERIFF!
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