EPTOn January 07 2010 12:55 Chezinu wrote:
so you want to die judge?
so you want to die judge?
More of you're playing like a jackass and shouldn't be permitted into another game of Mafia for the rest of your life.
Once again, you're at the stupid shit.
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More of you're playing like a jackass and shouldn't be permitted into another game of Mafia for the rest of your life. Once again, you're at the stupid shit. | ||
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Too late now. @RoL. I will EXPLAIN in the Day 2 phase of things. FFS show a little more trust and a little less paranoia about "OMG HE'S BURNING A DT CHECK." If anything, a DT check will be burned regardless of whether he checks me or someone else in your eyes. He's going to have to second guess his result no matter what. | ||
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@RoL - I'm making the assumption that there is a DT off of the constant nagging of people saying on this forum "There has to be a DT/Medic combo or else it's rape against Town." For the record, DT/Medic is an overpowered combination in pretty much every open game if it isn't balanced out by multiple KP or a mafia roleblocker. DT can outright claim and have the medic stay in hiding and just protect him every night while he investigates while the mafia has to blindly try and snipe the medic. By then a slew of confirmed townies pop up and it's GG for mafia. We luck out in the fact that we generally use multiple KP or these games would be busted wide open by any competent two players. | ||
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Also, my plan is a modification on the tactic. | ||
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On January 07 2010 13:09 Ace wrote: I said this a few pages back. DT/Medic is also somewhat busted by GF roles, but only somewhat. And the reason you need DT/Medic is because without both Mafia is just going to run wild killing everyone and people will be scared to post knowing they have no protection. GF, Millers and such can slightly hinder it, but in the setting I described (open game, 1 mafia KP and just "goons" with a GF") it can't out and out break it. If you know there are millers, you can obviously be like "I had a blank read" and with GF eventually there's going to be a point where you have 1 cop, 2 townies (1 GF) and no one else, and the cop and townie are going to figure out the GF. In semi-open or closed setups, you don't need anything. I've seen town win 12 man closed mountainous setups. Is it more difficult? Absolutely, but it's not impossible. Setups without PRs are not bastardized setups by any means. But this is more mafia discussion and not so much game-related. I'm just using our general assumption that we have a DT. | ||
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I'm much more inclined to believe mafia was off of this lynch, but that's my opinion right now. I feel that mafia sit back and let this one happen. | ||
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WILL THE DT WHO CHECKED ME PLEASE CONFIRM WITH ME VIA PM. CONFIRM WITH YOUR INVESTIGATION RESULT. IF I HAVE NO CONFIRMATION WITHIN 12 HOURS, I WILL ASSUME NO DT CHECKED ME, FUCKING UP THE PLAN. If anyone believes that Chez is a DT, you are a fucking idiot. This is a clean and simple bus by mafia as a ploy to throw my plan off. Mikeymoo is probably going to be mafia. Chez is going to sacc a mafioso to attempt to gain trust. Mafia KP does not go down. Chez will start naming off innocents and just cruize mafia to victory with this. | ||
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My aim is to bring the town together into a situation where we can win this game. I don't know how many more fucking times I have to say it. And I don't believe Chez is a DT because this whole thing is too convenient. Do you really believe that he just happened to check a player and find mafia? Do you really think that Chezinu was able to use the PMs he sent out to people to figure out who is who? You know what he PMed me? "Bye." What kind of read is he going to get off of any response from that. FUCKING. NONE. Right now, mafia are scared shitless. I managed to convince the town that I'm legit and that I have a plan to break them. And they know by my constant insistence on this plan, I ain't bullshitting them, I'm shooting straight. So they're scrambling. They have at least one intelligent player on their squad who realizes sacrificing one mafia for the greater good won't alter their KP. So they take MikeyMoo, a player who people had been slightly suspicious of, and they sacrifice him. He's obviously not the GF. They now have Chezinu, who might be the GF covering himself as a DT, and who has been acting arbitrarily all game long, claim that he is a DT and out of nowhere has a guilty. It fits Chez's profile no matter what he draws - he plays like a jackass. He will get the town to lynch Mikeymoo. Mikey will flip mafia. People will buy into "Woo! Chez is DT." Knowing this site's whole "FOLLOW THE PR LOLZ" mentality in the games, they will either a) manipulate his results to push mislynches and kill their cleared or b) get a town circle "established" and have a full list. BTW, I said my plan would come as soon as I got my confirmed DT check. Without it, my plan is null. | ||
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On January 09 2010 12:55 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: 10/10 for misquoting and being a prick in general. You didn't make it clear if you meant the post above the one you quoted or the quote inside the quote. I swear to fucking god if I have to ask this one more time I am just going to spam your inbox until I get a response I deem acceptable. How does checking Judge prove anything? There is a godfather in the game. Do I need to say this again? Checking Judge can show us anything, most likely a Vet or Medic yet you insist on wasting our valuable checks on it? We said in thread before night how it wasn't a good idea to check judge for those reasons yet you and Judge kept going on about confirming Judge which just never got explained. GIVE ME FUCKING ANSWERS. Oh and just a quick thing about the hit on HoE. I feel like that was done to draw the least suspicion to anyone. Why would ANYONE hit HoE? He isn't particularly good nor was he really looking like a blue. The only reason I can see to hit HoE is either a misread on a blue or to just try to create as little controversy between players. Imagine if me or Ace died last night the two people who were attacking Judge/L and their plan so much. They would be under scrutiny. But what did HoE really do? Look at his posts above. He didn't really do or say much of anything. So since I totally plan on active lurking from here on out until you guys lynch me or mafia kills me, does anyone want to hear my plan? Because it was brilliant, mind you. | ||
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To. Be. Amazed. At. How. Much. You. Suck. RoL. And. Ace. | ||
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THE PLAN I am a vanilla townie. The medic claim was to have a few things happen. First, it does fuck with mafia, because they don't know if I'm telling the truth. Second, because a lot of times, the real medic will protect that player on D1 just to see how it goes. They have no other people to protect and if it's mafia, it's not like they would've made a successful prot on N1 anyways. I was going to call for a DT investigation and to PM me to confirm. The DT would've confirmed himself by pming me "I got town as your role". At that point, I would come clean as VT and act as a mouth for said DT and funnel information to him. Have all players claim to me, funnel to him - let town lynch me to confirm my VT-ness, but send out directions for the night before I died. | ||
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On January 09 2010 20:30 Ace wrote: Oh...oh my god! Brilliant! Surely the DT wouldn't think that the fact you purposely claimed Medic to draw an investigation to yourself and a GF isn't in the game you'd never even attempt to pull a stunt! So basically like I said the instant you "came up with such a brilliant plan" you were just lying and wasting everyone's time. Hey Ace. It's not my fault you're in all honesty a shitty mafia player who relies on broken setups where you can follow the PR to victory and thus can't wrap your feeble mind around a well thought out plan. Quit raging at the fact that someone who isn't you had a plan to lead the town to victory. GG fucker. | ||
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On January 10 2010 15:26 nemY wrote: I agree with this. TBH I don't really understand the killing of HeavenOnEarth... he didn't carry that much power within the town; I would have expected someone like L, Ace or Vivi to get the first hit. It's called a frame. Myself and L were prime lynch possibilities walking into today - myself because I was claiming, L because he kept advocating my plan which I kept under wraps. HeavOnEarth was a nightkill who didn't draw attention to anyone, something a smart-scum in mine or L's positions would have been happy with. It was meant to look like L or myself would've made the NK. BTW, does everyone fucking understand why I kept saying "I can't tell you everything." now? Ace is excluded, although I must've hit a nerve or something with my post. | ||
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On January 10 2010 15:59 Vivi57 wrote: Really now L. The mafia would have to be really stupid to risk this and lose one of their own just to chez get the trust of the town. The only time mafia EVER have caused the death of one of their own was pyrr fucking up a couple games ago. so yeah, don't claim to chez, but I'm pretty sure he's town KP isn't affected this game. So losing one, especially with a GF still remaining, is no big loss. | ||
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On January 10 2010 16:17 Vivi57 wrote: but giving the town a 1 day advantage in a ~5 day game is a big loss Let's assume that we mislynch every day, and mafia kills every night. No vigi for the sake of easyness. D1: 12 (3), N1: 11 (3) D2: 10 (3), N2: 9 (3) D3: 8 (3), N3: 7(3) D4 6(3) [LYLO] Now lets assume they give us a freebie on D2 (basically, let's assume Chez is scum). No vigi again. D1: 12(3), N1: 11(3) D2: 10 (3), N2: 9(2) Now. At this point, Chez is believed to be town. People WILL claim to him. He can claim to investigate someone, clear them and then kill them later on. He just avoids his mafia buddy and keeps him under the radar. D3: 8(2), N3: 7(2) D4: 6(2), N4: 5(2) D5: 4(2) [LYLO] Hell, on D5 he can claim to have a guilty and lead a mislynch and gg. It really doesn't set Mafia back to do this. The other benefit is, if we kill Chez tomorrow - who the fuck can we link him to? He's been as arbitrary as possible this entire game, votehopping on D1, PMing everyone and quoting them. Who is safe? | ||
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On January 11 2010 11:20 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Get the fuck off yourself, holy shit. You are not that fucking important. Lol, just because you suck as much as Ace, doesn't mean you have to get in a hissy fit. | ||
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