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sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
August 04 2012 12:11 GMT
#3821
On August 04 2012 21:05 radiatoren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 20:42 Crushinator wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:34 Aristodemus wrote:
You know, these complaints keep popping up about the cycling (usually from French) but if you watched it all you saw teams getting restarts just for spinning their wheels (it is explained as sweat being mechanical reason) and Hinds had a much bigger problem. Nobody mentions this though because the other teams didnt smash the WR and the Frenchies
As for rowing his seat broke and if it happens in the first 100m you get a restart. Mathew Pinsent explains here "The news is that the wheel of the bow seat came off. It was inside 100m. The British boat have been allowed to fix it and can race in the final which will begin again at 1221 BST."
Yet you compare it to match fixing? Pfft.


I think the rule is bad. Taking care of your equipment is part of any sport. The other athletes shouldn't be at a disadvantage, just because British people are terrible mechanics. Can't accuse them of cheating ofcourse, it is a rule afterall.

The cycling thing is total bullshit, having a rego under false pretenses, just because it didnt go well is borderline cheating. If this is common in track cycling then that sport can fuck off.

This!


Yeh because calling adhering to the rules 'borderline cheating' and comparing it to people who match fix makes perfect sense.

If you have a problem with the rules fine. But taking your problem with the rules out on the athletes that follow them is pretty unfair.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 12:13:49
August 04 2012 12:13 GMT
#3822
On August 04 2012 21:11 sinii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 21:05 radiatoren wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:42 Crushinator wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:34 Aristodemus wrote:
You know, these complaints keep popping up about the cycling (usually from French) but if you watched it all you saw teams getting restarts just for spinning their wheels (it is explained as sweat being mechanical reason) and Hinds had a much bigger problem. Nobody mentions this though because the other teams didnt smash the WR and the Frenchies
As for rowing his seat broke and if it happens in the first 100m you get a restart. Mathew Pinsent explains here "The news is that the wheel of the bow seat came off. It was inside 100m. The British boat have been allowed to fix it and can race in the final which will begin again at 1221 BST."
Yet you compare it to match fixing? Pfft.


I think the rule is bad. Taking care of your equipment is part of any sport. The other athletes shouldn't be at a disadvantage, just because British people are terrible mechanics. Can't accuse them of cheating ofcourse, it is a rule afterall.

The cycling thing is total bullshit, having a rego under false pretenses, just because it didnt go well is borderline cheating. If this is common in track cycling then that sport can fuck off.

This!


Yeh because calling adhering to the rules 'borderline cheating' and comparing it to people who match fix makes perfect sense.

If you have a problem with the rules fine. But taking your problem with the rules out on the athletes that follow them is pretty unfair.


Nobody broke a rule in badminton but it's usual double standard all the way. I mean it's not different from the other olympics, being the host is a huge advantage for a lot of things.

Don't see who can threaten the brit for 3rd, does Korea still have some good golds opportunities?
Zest fanboy.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
August 04 2012 12:15 GMT
#3823
There's a woman from San Marino in the trap shooting final. According to wikipedia, that's the best achievement of ther country at the olympics. She might even win a medal.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 04 2012 12:16 GMT
#3824
On August 04 2012 21:13 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 21:11 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 21:05 radiatoren wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:42 Crushinator wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:34 Aristodemus wrote:
You know, these complaints keep popping up about the cycling (usually from French) but if you watched it all you saw teams getting restarts just for spinning their wheels (it is explained as sweat being mechanical reason) and Hinds had a much bigger problem. Nobody mentions this though because the other teams didnt smash the WR and the Frenchies
As for rowing his seat broke and if it happens in the first 100m you get a restart. Mathew Pinsent explains here "The news is that the wheel of the bow seat came off. It was inside 100m. The British boat have been allowed to fix it and can race in the final which will begin again at 1221 BST."
Yet you compare it to match fixing? Pfft.


I think the rule is bad. Taking care of your equipment is part of any sport. The other athletes shouldn't be at a disadvantage, just because British people are terrible mechanics. Can't accuse them of cheating ofcourse, it is a rule afterall.

The cycling thing is total bullshit, having a rego under false pretenses, just because it didnt go well is borderline cheating. If this is common in track cycling then that sport can fuck off.

This!


Yeh because calling adhering to the rules 'borderline cheating' and comparing it to people who match fix makes perfect sense.

If you have a problem with the rules fine. But taking your problem with the rules out on the athletes that follow them is pretty unfair.


Nobody broke a rule in badminton but it's usual double standard all the way. I mean it's not different from the other olympics, being the host is a huge advantage for a lot of things.

Don't see who can threaten the brit for 3rd, does Korea still have some good golds opportunities?

Taekwondo? Unless the Brits poured billions into that sport as well.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
August 04 2012 12:16 GMT
#3825
I don't know why you guys are arguing over this cycling so much, its done and dusted. Big olympic bosses said its fine, you can't appeal in cycling so even now nothing can be done about it. You're arguing over something that can't be changed.

The french coach doesn't even mind
"There was no cheating," he said. "The British team was much stronger than the French team and I congratulate them on their success.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19107973
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 04 2012 12:18 GMT
#3826
On August 04 2012 21:16 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 21:13 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 21:11 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 21:05 radiatoren wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:42 Crushinator wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:34 Aristodemus wrote:
You know, these complaints keep popping up about the cycling (usually from French) but if you watched it all you saw teams getting restarts just for spinning their wheels (it is explained as sweat being mechanical reason) and Hinds had a much bigger problem. Nobody mentions this though because the other teams didnt smash the WR and the Frenchies
As for rowing his seat broke and if it happens in the first 100m you get a restart. Mathew Pinsent explains here "The news is that the wheel of the bow seat came off. It was inside 100m. The British boat have been allowed to fix it and can race in the final which will begin again at 1221 BST."
Yet you compare it to match fixing? Pfft.


I think the rule is bad. Taking care of your equipment is part of any sport. The other athletes shouldn't be at a disadvantage, just because British people are terrible mechanics. Can't accuse them of cheating ofcourse, it is a rule afterall.

The cycling thing is total bullshit, having a rego under false pretenses, just because it didnt go well is borderline cheating. If this is common in track cycling then that sport can fuck off.

This!


Yeh because calling adhering to the rules 'borderline cheating' and comparing it to people who match fix makes perfect sense.

If you have a problem with the rules fine. But taking your problem with the rules out on the athletes that follow them is pretty unfair.


Nobody broke a rule in badminton but it's usual double standard all the way. I mean it's not different from the other olympics, being the host is a huge advantage for a lot of things.

Don't see who can threaten the brit for 3rd, does Korea still have some good golds opportunities?

Taekwondo? Unless the Brits poured billions into that sport as well.


my bad i forgot their easiest medals
Zest fanboy.
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
August 04 2012 12:18 GMT
#3827
On August 04 2012 21:13 sAsImre wrote:
Don't see who can threaten the brit for 3rd, does Korea still have some good golds opportunities?


I'm a bit surprised the Russians aren't right up the top...
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 04 2012 12:19 GMT
#3828
On August 04 2012 21:18 sinii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 21:13 sAsImre wrote:
Don't see who can threaten the brit for 3rd, does Korea still have some good golds opportunities?


I'm a bit surprised the Russians aren't right up the top...


yeah i don't think they can overcome a 7 golds deficit in the snd week, still surprisingly bad first week. except in judo
Zest fanboy.
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
August 04 2012 12:20 GMT
#3829
On August 04 2012 21:18 sinii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 21:13 sAsImre wrote:
Don't see who can threaten the brit for 3rd, does Korea still have some good golds opportunities?


I'm a bit surprised the Russians aren't right up the top...

They have 23 medals (4th in that regard) but only 3 golds. I guess they are just a bit unlucky.
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
August 04 2012 12:21 GMT
#3830
On August 04 2012 21:20 KingPaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 21:18 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 21:13 sAsImre wrote:
Don't see who can threaten the brit for 3rd, does Korea still have some good golds opportunities?


I'm a bit surprised the Russians aren't right up the top...

They have 23 medals (4th in that regard) but only 3 golds. I guess they are just a bit unlucky.


Russia and Australia seem to have their own private silver medal competition going on...
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
August 04 2012 12:22 GMT
#3831
On August 04 2012 21:13 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 21:11 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 21:05 radiatoren wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:42 Crushinator wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:34 Aristodemus wrote:
You know, these complaints keep popping up about the cycling (usually from French) but if you watched it all you saw teams getting restarts just for spinning their wheels (it is explained as sweat being mechanical reason) and Hinds had a much bigger problem. Nobody mentions this though because the other teams didnt smash the WR and the Frenchies
As for rowing his seat broke and if it happens in the first 100m you get a restart. Mathew Pinsent explains here "The news is that the wheel of the bow seat came off. It was inside 100m. The British boat have been allowed to fix it and can race in the final which will begin again at 1221 BST."
Yet you compare it to match fixing? Pfft.


I think the rule is bad. Taking care of your equipment is part of any sport. The other athletes shouldn't be at a disadvantage, just because British people are terrible mechanics. Can't accuse them of cheating ofcourse, it is a rule afterall.

The cycling thing is total bullshit, having a rego under false pretenses, just because it didnt go well is borderline cheating. If this is common in track cycling then that sport can fuck off.

This!


Yeh because calling adhering to the rules 'borderline cheating' and comparing it to people who match fix makes perfect sense.

If you have a problem with the rules fine. But taking your problem with the rules out on the athletes that follow them is pretty unfair.


Nobody broke a rule in badminton but it's usual double standard all the way. I mean it's not different from the other olympics, being the host is a huge advantage for a lot of things.

Don't see who can threaten the brit for 3rd, does Korea still have some good golds opportunities?


What do you mean nobody broke a rule in badminton? Do you mean the disqualified teams or something else that I've missed?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 04 2012 12:23 GMT
#3832
On August 04 2012 21:22 SgtCoDFish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 21:13 sAsImre wrote:
On August 04 2012 21:11 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 21:05 radiatoren wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:42 Crushinator wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:34 Aristodemus wrote:
You know, these complaints keep popping up about the cycling (usually from French) but if you watched it all you saw teams getting restarts just for spinning their wheels (it is explained as sweat being mechanical reason) and Hinds had a much bigger problem. Nobody mentions this though because the other teams didnt smash the WR and the Frenchies
As for rowing his seat broke and if it happens in the first 100m you get a restart. Mathew Pinsent explains here "The news is that the wheel of the bow seat came off. It was inside 100m. The British boat have been allowed to fix it and can race in the final which will begin again at 1221 BST."
Yet you compare it to match fixing? Pfft.


I think the rule is bad. Taking care of your equipment is part of any sport. The other athletes shouldn't be at a disadvantage, just because British people are terrible mechanics. Can't accuse them of cheating ofcourse, it is a rule afterall.

The cycling thing is total bullshit, having a rego under false pretenses, just because it didnt go well is borderline cheating. If this is common in track cycling then that sport can fuck off.

This!


Yeh because calling adhering to the rules 'borderline cheating' and comparing it to people who match fix makes perfect sense.

If you have a problem with the rules fine. But taking your problem with the rules out on the athletes that follow them is pretty unfair.


Nobody broke a rule in badminton but it's usual double standard all the way. I mean it's not different from the other olympics, being the host is a huge advantage for a lot of things.

Don't see who can threaten the brit for 3rd, does Korea still have some good golds opportunities?


What do you mean nobody broke a rule in badminton? Do you mean the disqualified teams or something else that I've missed?


yes. They tried as hard as they could to throw their match but it's not against the rules. The IOC didn't exclude them it was their own federations.
Zest fanboy.
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
August 04 2012 12:25 GMT
#3833
On August 04 2012 21:11 sinii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 21:05 radiatoren wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:42 Crushinator wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:34 Aristodemus wrote:
You know, these complaints keep popping up about the cycling (usually from French) but if you watched it all you saw teams getting restarts just for spinning their wheels (it is explained as sweat being mechanical reason) and Hinds had a much bigger problem. Nobody mentions this though because the other teams didnt smash the WR and the Frenchies
As for rowing his seat broke and if it happens in the first 100m you get a restart. Mathew Pinsent explains here "The news is that the wheel of the bow seat came off. It was inside 100m. The British boat have been allowed to fix it and can race in the final which will begin again at 1221 BST."
Yet you compare it to match fixing? Pfft.


I think the rule is bad. Taking care of your equipment is part of any sport. The other athletes shouldn't be at a disadvantage, just because British people are terrible mechanics. Can't accuse them of cheating ofcourse, it is a rule afterall.

The cycling thing is total bullshit, having a rego under false pretenses, just because it didnt go well is borderline cheating. If this is common in track cycling then that sport can fuck off.

This!


Yeh because calling adhering to the rules 'borderline cheating' and comparing it to people who match fix makes perfect sense.

If you have a problem with the rules fine. But taking your problem with the rules out on the athletes that follow them is pretty unfair.

Unsportsmanlike conduct comes in many flavour and these things are stepping over lines. I do not see what the badminton-players did as any worse than what Hines did. The boat-race seems like an example of a problematic rule with a clear possibility for abuse and the brits gaining a small advantage from it...
Repeat before me
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4107 Posts
August 04 2012 12:28 GMT
#3834
On August 04 2012 21:20 KingPaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 21:18 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 21:13 sAsImre wrote:
Don't see who can threaten the brit for 3rd, does Korea still have some good golds opportunities?


I'm a bit surprised the Russians aren't right up the top...

They have 23 medals (4th in that regard) but only 3 golds. I guess they are just a bit unlucky.


Our athletes tend to choke a lot.
Maaaany upsets, like that shooting guy who set the NEW WR in qualification round and lost in final round.

At least these are silver medals today, last years we were all bronze. So its kind of improvement.
Drone is a way of living
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
August 04 2012 12:30 GMT
#3835
On August 04 2012 21:28 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 21:20 KingPaddy wrote:
On August 04 2012 21:18 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 21:13 sAsImre wrote:
Don't see who can threaten the brit for 3rd, does Korea still have some good golds opportunities?


I'm a bit surprised the Russians aren't right up the top...

They have 23 medals (4th in that regard) but only 3 golds. I guess they are just a bit unlucky.


Our athletes tend to choke a lot.
Maaaany upsets, like that shooting guy who set the NEW WR in qualification round and lost in final round.

At least these are silver medals today, last years we were all bronze. So its kind of improvement.

Wrestling is still to come. I think Russia will pick up at least a little compared to now.
Repeat before me
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 04 2012 12:31 GMT
#3836
On August 04 2012 21:28 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 21:20 KingPaddy wrote:
On August 04 2012 21:18 sinii wrote:
On August 04 2012 21:13 sAsImre wrote:
Don't see who can threaten the brit for 3rd, does Korea still have some good golds opportunities?


I'm a bit surprised the Russians aren't right up the top...

They have 23 medals (4th in that regard) but only 3 golds. I guess they are just a bit unlucky.


Our athletes tend to choke a lot.
Maaaany upsets, like that shooting guy who set the NEW WR in qualification round and lost in final round.

At least these are silver medals today, last years we were all bronze. So its kind of improvement.

Join the club :D We'll see who can win the most silver medals by the end of the competition.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 04 2012 12:31 GMT
#3837
is powell in or out now?
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 12:34:36
August 04 2012 12:33 GMT
#3838
Pretty funny seeing the whining in this thread too!

Also pretty sad to see people actually attempting to imply that broken equipment is the same as throwing matches. I guess bitterness makes people say silly things.

Britain are really strong in Cycling these days. Deal with it.

Interesting seeing UK in the 3rd place in medals table so far. I will be surprised if they remain there. Russia usually finish in 3rd.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 04 2012 12:34 GMT
#3839
What was the reception like for Dwain Chambers in the 100m? Heard a few brits on here not happy about his participation in the games.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
August 04 2012 12:35 GMT
#3840
On August 04 2012 21:33 revel8 wrote:
Pretty funny seeing the whining in this thread too!

Also pretty sad to see people actually attempting to imply that broken equipment is the same as throwing matches. I guess bitterness makes people say silly things.

Britain are really strong in Cycling these days. Deal with it.

Interesting seeing UK in the 3rd place in medals table so far. I will be surprised if they remain there. Russia usually finish in 3rd.

Yeh, once cycling and sailing is done we will fall off.
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