But that wasn't a troll comp? Winning lanes for top and mid, equally BS adc and an early-mid game jungler to protect the early game and make them reach critical mass for the comp to turn online so they could just bulldozer VIT down.

It's a G2 troll comp for the reason I mentioned, Soraka is a valid answer to the Orrn pick and G2 is able to out execute their opponent, so the downsides of the pick never surface. I don't expect it to work quite as flawlessly vs another top team.

Sent.

Poland9193 Posts

February 01 2020 19:22 GMT

#22

Forgiven says the soul thing was a spectator bug.

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

February 01 2020 19:46 GMT

#23

If it was a spectator bug, it happened to him yesterday too. Didn't happen to rekkles here, he finished the game with over 60. As did Hans Sama last game.

Based on Forgiven's typical behavior I think he's just lying to avoid responsibility and shield his ego, tbh.

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

February 01 2020 20:52 GMT

#24

I can't tell if I'm retarded, or G2 is just sandbagging.

G2s comp to me just feels like it shouldn't be able to win games without complete vision control and vastly superior micro and macro play. Just literally zero damage, zero safe waveclear, and no real engage or sieging ability or ability to kill objectives, and the comp falls off really fast.

Am I just missing something completely, or is that draft mad disrespect? Also, how does OG only buy one Grevious wounds vs Raka+Senna+Lee+Thresh? Two diff big heals with three different sources of shields for someone when they get low + Ardent heals. Idk. I think that should have been first or second buy for mid and not too, then you just run them down because LeBlanc can't really teamfight. I guess it works out because G2 just has so much map control and pressure from all of their lanes winning all the time, but I don't think that draft should be able to win. Idk.

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

February 01 2020 21:26 GMT

#25

Am I just missing something completely, or is that draft mad disrespect?

If you changed Soraka with something normal, it would be a very standard comp. With the Soraka pick they had to make sure they executed everything perfectly, they messed up once which resulted in OG baron.

I agree, OG should've gone with an Exec on either Upset or Xerxe, even if it delays their build/tankiness. Nukeduck was too far behind to afford it, 4 item LB vs 2 item Sylas is a game ending damage difference. The Sylas pick needed to snowball hard early mid, the champ's been nerfed too hard and there were no crazy ultimates for him to steal. But I think OG had the right idea about dealing with the comp, Rumble applying pressure in the side lanes with Rek'Sai trying to kill her. But they had no answer to LB, Senna zoning ability is mindboggingly stupid in later fights, and Destiny isn't completely clean in his engages (but he seems to have a lot of mechanical ability).

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

February 07 2020 19:08 GMT

#26

wtf was that herald attempt FNC? lol

AzAlexZ

Australia3303 Posts

February 07 2020 19:17 GMT

#27

Fnatic making the iron plays with that ridiculously stupid tower-dive, damn that was so bad.
+ Show Spoiler +

made my day though

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

February 07 2020 19:43 GMT

#28

Turned out to be a great game but it sure had some slobby plays. + Show Spoiler +

Loved Mickey casually getting oneshot by Nemesis when they setup for Herald #2(?) and then later Mickey goes full Neo and dodge a billion skillshots and get the kill on in what basically ends up a 1v3.

AzAlexZ

Australia3303 Posts

February 07 2020 21:25 GMT

#29

Rogue with the massive 4v5 teamfight upset into the Baron at 32 minutes.
yo this team is POGGERS
+ Show Spoiler +

unfortunately it wasn't enough, gg wp G2

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

February 07 2020 21:33 GMT

#30

Favorite game of the split so far, at least watching LEC and LCK. I think if RGE hadn't given away so many OP picks they might've even won (but Senna, LB really strong atm too), they tried so hard and played super well considering all it takes is for Soraka to hit a single silence on LB/Senna and the fight is basically over.

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

February 07 2020 22:12 GMT

#31

I dont really know if I like Soraka being meta or not. She's one of the most frustrating (if not the most) champs to play again so the player in me just goes "reeeeeeeeeeeee" when I see her, but on the other hand it makes for some pretty interesting games to watch.

Pretty sad Riot are doing their usual "support champion outside bot? nerf nerf nerf" balancing, it's only been one patch the teams have barely had any time to work out counters. :-/

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

February 07 2020 23:38 GMT

#32

Idk, I've always considered Soraka insta silence a pretty broken ability, it basically hard counters half the champion pool. It took Riot ages to nerf the damage on the ability because people were maxing it first in bot lane for that sweet, sweet non tradeable harass, but now pros have finally realized it's still a a god tier ability. Everyone focuses on her insane healing ability and how Grievous Wounds struggles when you stack healing, but her E is what really separates her from Sona and Nami, it's in the same category as Cass W and Yasuo Windwall when it comes to 'non interactive zero counterplay ability'.

AzAlexZ

Australia3303 Posts

February 08 2020 08:53 GMT

#33

On February 08 2020 08:38 DarkCore wrote:
Idk, I've always considered Soraka insta silence a pretty broken ability, it basically hard counters half the champion pool. It took Riot ages to nerf the damage on the ability because people were maxing it first in bot lane for that sweet, sweet non tradeable harass, but now pros have finally realized it's still a a god tier ability. Everyone focuses on her insane healing ability and how Grievous Wounds struggles when you stack healing, but her E is what really separates her from Sona and Nami, it's in the same category as Cass W and Yasuo Windwall when it comes to 'non interactive zero counterplay ability'.

I mean certain skills like ryze w, lux and vel ult still go rhtough Yas windwall and you can shield or heal in cass w.
You can't do any of that in soraka silence, which is even more broken with my argument

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

February 08 2020 17:16 GMT

#34

It's only a rough category in my head, consisting of abilities which hard counter a lot of champion kits, while there's very little you can do against it unless your kit has niche interactions. Like Ezreal has no real answer to Yas W, while Kayle laughs at him.

Imo RGE looked better, but who cares if the enemy has Soraka? Like half a dozen clutch saves in the last fight alone.